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Passionboard
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15961 Posts
November 04 2016 15:37 GMT
#421
On November 05 2016 00:22 Jer99 wrote:
Thank God for a TvT though, could be useful for a build order compilation

step 1: make reapers
step 2: make tankivacs
step 3: ???????
step 4: Profit
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
November 04 2016 15:38 GMT
#422
On November 05 2016 00:37 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 00:22 Jer99 wrote:
Thank God for a TvT though, could be useful for a build order compilation

step 1: make reapers
step 2: make tankivacs
step 3: ???????
step 4: Profit

Step 5: game is patched
Step 6: all your builds have to be changed
Step 7: ???
Step 8: give up
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
November 04 2016 15:38 GMT
#423
On November 05 2016 00:34 Noonius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 00:32 Cricketer12 wrote:
On November 05 2016 00:28 Noonius wrote:
On November 05 2016 00:24 The_Templar wrote:
On November 05 2016 00:23 Noonius wrote:
On November 05 2016 00:19 Shellshock wrote:
pineapple on pizza is actually pretty good


you only say that because you're biased mod

Does that mean I'm an unbiased mod?


if you want to be a fair and just mod, you'll grant me mod powers for this weekend

And watch TL burn?


look, I won't ban people (much). I just want to post memes in peace


What if Maru shows up in Shoutcraft though
Neosteel Enthusiast
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3424 Posts
November 04 2016 15:39 GMT
#424
AAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-04 15:40:09
November 04 2016 15:39 GMT
#425
On November 05 2016 00:35 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 00:34 Noonius wrote:
On November 05 2016 00:32 Cricketer12 wrote:
On November 05 2016 00:28 Noonius wrote:
On November 05 2016 00:24 The_Templar wrote:
On November 05 2016 00:23 Noonius wrote:
On November 05 2016 00:19 Shellshock wrote:
pineapple on pizza is actually pretty good


you only say that because you're biased mod

Does that mean I'm an unbiased mod?


if you want to be a fair and just mod, you'll grant me mod powers for this weekend

And watch TL burn?


look, I won't ban people (much). I just want to post memes in peace



You mean they'd have to call in an admin to get you banned? Seems like an awful lot of trouble.


Admin, you say? Blizzcon 2014. Never forget

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Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15961 Posts
November 04 2016 15:40 GMT
#426
On November 05 2016 00:38 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 00:37 Charoisaur wrote:
On November 05 2016 00:22 Jer99 wrote:
Thank God for a TvT though, could be useful for a build order compilation

step 1: make reapers
step 2: make tankivacs
step 3: ???????
step 4: Profit

Step 5: game is patched
Step 6: all your builds have to be changed
Step 7: ???
Step 8: give up

Step 9: switch to Zerg
Step 10: Profit
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
November 04 2016 15:40 GMT
#427
On November 05 2016 00:38 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 00:34 Noonius wrote:
On November 05 2016 00:32 Cricketer12 wrote:
On November 05 2016 00:28 Noonius wrote:
On November 05 2016 00:24 The_Templar wrote:
On November 05 2016 00:23 Noonius wrote:
On November 05 2016 00:19 Shellshock wrote:
pineapple on pizza is actually pretty good


you only say that because you're biased mod

Does that mean I'm an unbiased mod?


if you want to be a fair and just mod, you'll grant me mod powers for this weekend

And watch TL burn?


look, I won't ban people (much). I just want to post memes in peace


What if Maru shows up in Shoutcraft though


a man can dream
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
November 04 2016 15:41 GMT
#428
On November 05 2016 00:38 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 00:34 Noonius wrote:
On November 05 2016 00:32 Cricketer12 wrote:
On November 05 2016 00:28 Noonius wrote:
On November 05 2016 00:24 The_Templar wrote:
On November 05 2016 00:23 Noonius wrote:
On November 05 2016 00:19 Shellshock wrote:
pineapple on pizza is actually pretty good


you only say that because you're biased mod

Does that mean I'm an unbiased mod?


if you want to be a fair and just mod, you'll grant me mod powers for this weekend

And watch TL burn?


look, I won't ban people (much). I just want to post memes in peace


What if Maru shows up in Shoutcraft though


Run a script to auto-ban anyone who mentions the Jin Air terran who-must-not-be-named.
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
November 04 2016 15:42 GMT
#429
On November 05 2016 00:41 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 00:38 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
On November 05 2016 00:34 Noonius wrote:
On November 05 2016 00:32 Cricketer12 wrote:
On November 05 2016 00:28 Noonius wrote:
On November 05 2016 00:24 The_Templar wrote:
On November 05 2016 00:23 Noonius wrote:
On November 05 2016 00:19 Shellshock wrote:
pineapple on pizza is actually pretty good


you only say that because you're biased mod

Does that mean I'm an unbiased mod?


if you want to be a fair and just mod, you'll grant me mod powers for this weekend

And watch TL burn?


look, I won't ban people (much). I just want to post memes in peace


What if Maru shows up in Shoutcraft though


Run a script to auto-ban anyone who mentions the Jin Air terran who-must-not-be-named.


if only R1CH_TL could write that
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-04 15:45:51
November 04 2016 15:45 GMT
#430
On November 05 2016 00:40 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 00:38 Elentos wrote:
On November 05 2016 00:37 Charoisaur wrote:
On November 05 2016 00:22 Jer99 wrote:
Thank God for a TvT though, could be useful for a build order compilation

step 1: make reapers
step 2: make tankivacs
step 3: ???????
step 4: Profit

Step 5: game is patched
Step 6: all your builds have to be changed
Step 7: ???
Step 8: give up

Step 9: switch to Zerg
Step 10: Profit

Step 11: Queue up for ladder
Step 12: Realize that you forgot to ban Echo
Step 13: It's Mech
Step 14: ???
Step 15: Cry
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12886 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-04 15:49:52
November 04 2016 15:48 GMT
#431
The cool thing about the bracket being relatively bad is that it makes for a fucking good ro8 xD.

A nice starter with (P)ShoWTimE vs (Z)Elazer: a man who 2-0ed two top koreans + Show Spoiler +
(albeit (P)Dear sure didn't play like one and (T)ByuN didn't look as (T)Great as usual, still a (T)COol achievement)
against + Show Spoiler +
(and I'(T)M (T)Happy being right to (P)Defend him against arguments such as: "(P)Harstem and/or (T)uThermal would have been more worthy of a Blizzcon spot than him!!" since I don't either of them would have beaten (Z)Solar then (Z)Nerchio, albeit one could argue PvZ/TvZ are harder to win than ZvZ, you don't chose your opponents)
the forever #2 Polish player (or zerg, since top 2 PL players are both zergs players :D) who was able to defeat his Arch Nemesis (Z)Nerchio (one of, if not the, best foreigner) when it mattered the most, as well as the reigning SSL champion.

Then the main course starts with the match of the TITANS, the ultimate match, the match between the two best players of the tournament: (Z)Dark vs (P)Neeb + Show Spoiler +
if that seems exaggerated, fault the TL Power Rank :D
. Either one winning would start furious discussions on the LR thread: "hahaha told you foreigners are utter fucking crap!!" + Show Spoiler +
Charoisaur, Poopi, plus many more
or "hahaha told you Dark is merely fast food for Neeb" + Show Spoiler +
Poopi
.

The best TvT of LotV will complete the main course:
(T)TY vs (T)ByuN.
With another bracket, if both played up to their potential, this could have been the finals. It won't be but it'll probably be amazing either way, except if one of them is too afraid to win like they did in the past, resulting in a Mvp vs MKP like one sided TvT.
Both have accomplished amazing things:
TY was a prodigy, being one of the (if not the) youngest progamers ever, in a game as hard as Starcraft: Broodwar. However he is not a champion...
ByuN on the other hand, started progaming very late, showed a bit of potential, then disappeared from the scene for a few years... only to come back and be the first teamless player ever to win a Starleague, in 17 (iirc) years of SC korean competitions.
This truly is the match of the titans.

And the dessert is a PvP!
...
... + Show Spoiler +
jk

(P)Zest vs (P)Stats
As for ByuN vs TY, it could be an amazing match, or a complete stomp. Stats is one of the best PvP players in Korea (I can't really say in the world for this matchup ) while Zest peaked the highest of any protoss in LotV, before slumping hard. Stats winning wouldn't be an especially huge surprise, but it'll probably disappoint people since Zest winning (and playing more like his GSL winning self) would bring far more hype, especially for the PvT semi-finals.
Stats was also a victim of Neeb in Kespa Cup, he didn't have the chance to redeem himself, while his opponent Zest was able to show the world that Neeb was mortal in PvP, so this could be very close.

You realize koreans players REALLY take random English words for nickname when you TLPD a whole paragraph instead of case by case players :D.
WriterMaru
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
November 04 2016 15:51 GMT
#432
On November 05 2016 00:24 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 00:23 Noonius wrote:
On November 05 2016 00:19 Shellshock wrote:
pineapple on pizza is actually pretty good


you only say that because you're biased mod

Does that mean I'm an unbiased mod?


Do you really want to establish "how do we like Templar as a mod" as a LR discussion topic? Do you?
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15961 Posts
November 04 2016 15:53 GMT
#433
On November 05 2016 00:45 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 00:40 Charoisaur wrote:
On November 05 2016 00:38 Elentos wrote:
On November 05 2016 00:37 Charoisaur wrote:
On November 05 2016 00:22 Jer99 wrote:
Thank God for a TvT though, could be useful for a build order compilation

step 1: make reapers
step 2: make tankivacs
step 3: ???????
step 4: Profit

Step 5: game is patched
Step 6: all your builds have to be changed
Step 7: ???
Step 8: give up

Step 9: switch to Zerg
Step 10: Profit

Step 11: Queue up for ladder
Step 12: Realize that you forgot to ban Echo
Step 13: It's Mech
Step 14: ???
Step 15: Cry

Step 16: Cry on the forums about balance
Step 17: Get flamed for being a noob.
Step 18: ????
Step 19: Uninstall sc2
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
November 04 2016 15:54 GMT
#434
On November 05 2016 00:51 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 00:24 The_Templar wrote:
On November 05 2016 00:23 Noonius wrote:
On November 05 2016 00:19 Shellshock wrote:
pineapple on pizza is actually pretty good


you only say that because you're biased mod

Does that mean I'm an unbiased mod?


Do you really want to establish "how do we like Templar as a mod" as a LR discussion topic? Do you?


That's a good question:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/website-feedback/489977-why-is-the_templar-such-a-bad-mod

Though it's come a bit too late since by now he's only a little more active as a mod than Shellshock.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
November 04 2016 15:56 GMT
#435
#PASSIONBOARD4EVER2016

This new PASSIONBOARD is for promoting ON-TOPIC conversation. Do not abuse it or the mods could get angry.

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EVERYONE - score: 6040 (+2398), users: 84, fav team: KT Rolster, fav player: Zest, top joined in year: 2015, top country: Poland
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Regions
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#12 CJ Entus - score: 0 (+0), users: 3, fav player: ByuN, top joined in year: 2011, top country: Finland

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#1 None - score: 4230 (+1465), users: 73, fav team: Jin Air Green Wings, top joined in year: 2011, top country: Poland
#2 Zest - score: 1560 (+791), users: 4, fav team: KT Rolster, top joined in year: 2015, top country: Croatia
#3 TY - score: 194 (+142), users: 2, fav team: KT Rolster, top joined in year: 2015, top country: France
#4 ByuN - score: 57 (+0), users: 4, fav team: Jin Air Green Wings, top joined in year: 2010, top country: United States
#5 Dark - score: 0 (+0), users: 1, fav team: SK Telecom T1, top joined in year: 2005, top country: Where dat snitch at?

+ Show Spoiler [Joined Years] +
#1 2015 - score: 2257 (+1340), users: 8, fav team: KT Rolster, fav player: Zest, top country: Canada
#2 2011 - score: 1204 (+259), users: 17, fav team: Jin Air Green Wings, top country: Poland
#3 2010 - score: 700 (+377), users: 18, fav team: Jin Air Green Wings, fav player: ByuN, top country: France
#4 2016 - score: 591 (+8), users: 7, fav team: KT Rolster, fav player: Zest, top country: Korea (South)
#5 2013 - score: 471 (+157), users: 11, fav team: Team Liquid, fav player: TY, top country: Russian Federation
#6 2012 - score: 411 (+164), users: 7, fav team: Jin Air Green Wings, top country: Iraq
#7 2014 - score: 352 (+51), users: 10, fav team: Jin Air Green Wings, fav player: Zest, top country: Croatia
#8 2008 - score: 32 (+32), users: 1, top country: Hong Kong
#9 2009 - score: 22 (+12), users: 2, fav team: SK Telecom T1, top country: Andorra
#10 2005 - score: 0 (+0), users: 2, fav team: SK Telecom T1, fav player: Dark, top country: Aotearoa
#11 2004 - score: 0 (+0), users: 1, fav team: Jin Air Green Wings, top country: Poland

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+ Show Spoiler [Recent Conversations] +
These are the 20 conversations that have been replied to the most recently, and also have at least 3 replies.



Highlighted Keywords - Most Recent 10 Posts. Posts using at least 1 highlighted keyword are awarded 1 point + 1/10th of a point for each character in the post. (These are not case sensitive)
+ Show Spoiler [Players] +
Includes posts containing the keywords ShoWTimE, Elazer, Dark, Neeblet, TY, ByuN, Zest, Stats, and Neeb (case insensitive).
Score: 2694 (+0)

Elentos Thursday, Nov 03 7:03pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
I imagine 2v2s/team games in general are a lot more fun if you play with people you k...

FrkFrJss Thursday, Nov 03 8:22pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
To be fair, Neeb was also known to choke quite heavily. A person's winrate does gener...

Elentos Thursday, Nov 03 9:37pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
You didn't misrepresent TY's TvP specifically. Here are the offline TvP winrates of a...

FrkFrJss Thursday, Nov 03 11:53pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
That is true, this year specifically, most (all) Terran have had trouble against Prot...

Elentos Friday, Nov 04 12:05am GMT (GMT+00:00):
I would have, too. But the fact that ShoWTimE completely figured ByuN out and smashed...

YamiRi Friday, Nov 04 3:08am GMT (GMT+00:00):
surprisingly, ShowTime is actually struggled with his PvZ so it would be bad if he me...

ejozl Friday, Nov 04 11:23am GMT (GMT+00:00):
Things around Dark has been a little too quiet. I can imagine him just taking the tou...

Jett.Jack.Alvir Friday, Nov 04 2:32pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
how is elazer's pvz? its kind of hard to make a bet on either him or showtime. both a...

FueledUpAndReadyToGo Friday, Nov 04 2:48pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
Elazer spotted travelling to the convention center: Little did they know Showtime was...

Poopi Friday, Nov 04 3:48pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
The cool thing about the bracket being relatively bad is that it makes for a fucking ...


+ Show Spoiler [Prediction] +
Includes posts containing the keywords Prediction and Predictions (case insensitive).
Score: 135 (+0)

Musicus Tuesday, Nov 01 7:21pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
Prediction: ShoWTimE 3:1 Elazer Neeb 1:3 Dark TY 3:2 ByuN Stats 3:2 Zest ShoWTimE 2:3...

Elentos Tuesday, Nov 01 7:53pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
Not an actual prediction, but how I would love it to go: ShoWTimE 3-2 Elazer Dark 3-1...

Musicus Tuesday, Nov 01 7:56pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
Pretty close to my actual prediction

Elentos Tuesday, Nov 01 7:57pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
If I posted my actual prediction the universe would immediately initiate measures to ...

AbouSV Tuesday, Nov 01 9:02pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
Prediction : ShoWTimE 3:2 Elazer - Hard to predict given how they both played last we...

ZigguratOfUr Wednesday, Nov 02 8:25pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
Is this your prediction? That Elazer will defeat Showtime? At least we know that Nerc...


+ Show Spoiler [SigBet] +
Includes posts containing the keywords SigBet and SigBets (case insensitive).
Score: 13 (+0)

Sakat Wednesday, Nov 02 5:31pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
How about a sigbet? If Elazer beats Showtime you have my sig for 3 months, and if Sho...


+ Show Spoiler [PassionBet] +
Includes posts containing the keywords PassionBet and PassionBets (case insensitive).
Score: 0 (+0)


+ Show Spoiler [Protoss] +
Includes posts containing the keywords Protoss (case insensitive).
Score: 1654 (+0)

Elentos Thursday, Nov 03 5:42pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
Most of the time, build wise Stats is pretty much the most standard Protoss you could...

Elentos Thursday, Nov 03 6:39pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
TY's biggest problem is his entire bracket. ByuN, Protoss teammate/practice partner w...

FrkFrJss Thursday, Nov 03 7:01pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
Statistically, TY has not done all that well in LotV against Protoss. He's consistent...

FrkFrJss Thursday, Nov 03 8:22pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
To be fair, Neeb was also known to choke quite heavily. A person's winrate does gener...

Elentos Thursday, Nov 03 9:37pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
You didn't misrepresent TY's TvP specifically. Here are the offline TvP winrates of a...

FrkFrJss Thursday, Nov 03 11:53pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
That is true, this year specifically, most (all) Terran have had trouble against Prot...

Elentos Friday, Nov 04 12:05am GMT (GMT+00:00):
I would have, too. But the fact that ShoWTimE completely figured ByuN out and smashed...

FrkFrJss Friday, Nov 04 2:09am GMT (GMT+00:00):
I noticed when Byun was facing Dear and sOs that he tended to delay his third base an...

Jett.Jack.Alvir Friday, Nov 04 2:32pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
how is elazer's pvz? its kind of hard to make a bet on either him or showtime. both a...

Poopi Friday, Nov 04 3:48pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
The cool thing about the bracket being relatively bad is that it makes for a fucking ...


+ Show Spoiler [Terran] +
Includes posts containing the keywords Terran (case insensitive).
Score: 670 (+0)

J. Corsair Monday, Oct 31 8:01pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
Really don't like Byun vs TY this early. As if we weren't low enough on Terran repres...

Ej_ Monday, Oct 31 8:46pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
oh no only 1 guaranteed Terran in ro4

Die4Ever Tuesday, Nov 01 5:34am GMT (GMT+00:00):
I'm rooting for Byun, Dark, and TY if he beats Byun. Dark vs Terran finals would be s...

Cricketer12 Tuesday, Nov 01 1:12pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
For me personally, SC2 has always been about playing at the highest level. It's meant...

TheHumanLife Wednesday, Nov 02 8:12pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
Dark will destroy any terran in bo5 or 7. Even in HotS, when Maru and TaeJa were thei...

Elentos Wednesday, Nov 02 8:22pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
He has actually not lost an offline BO5+ against a Terran since 2014 (2-3 vs TY). He'...

Elentos Thursday, Nov 03 5:42pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
Most of the time, build wise Stats is pretty much the most standard Protoss you could...

FrkFrJss Thursday, Nov 03 11:53pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
That is true, this year specifically, most (all) Terran have had trouble against Prot...

FrkFrJss Friday, Nov 04 2:09am GMT (GMT+00:00):
I noticed when Byun was facing Dear and sOs that he tended to delay his third base an...

ZigguratOfUr Friday, Nov 04 3:41pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
Run a script to auto-ban anyone who mentions the Jin Air terran who-must-not-be-named.


+ Show Spoiler [Zerg] +
Includes posts containing the keywords Zerg (case insensitive).
Score: 738 (+0)

FrkFrJss Monday, Oct 31 4:15pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
I'm also pretty hyped! It's the first time that I think the foreigners have a legitim...

AbouSV Tuesday, Nov 01 9:02pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
Prediction : ShoWTimE 3:2 Elazer - Hard to predict given how they both played last we...

MarinePrince Wednesday, Nov 02 1:50pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
I think this bracket is about as good as we could have asked for, to be honest. Every...

TheHumanLife Wednesday, Nov 02 8:12pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
Dark will destroy any terran in bo5 or 7. Even in HotS, when Maru and TaeJa were thei...

opisska Thursday, Nov 03 4:50pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
I was thinking about what do I actually know about these players from the top of my h...

Poopi Friday, Nov 04 3:03pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
People still think about Life especially since there has been no zerg as good yet. Ma...

opisska Friday, Nov 04 3:04pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
I'm gonna always think about Life when thinking about SC2, he was the epitomy of Zerg.

Charoisaur Friday, Nov 04 3:40pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
Step 9: switch to Zerg Step 10: Profit

Poopi Friday, Nov 04 3:48pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
The cool thing about the bracket being relatively bad is that it makes for a fucking ...


+ Show Spoiler [Blizzcon] +
Includes posts containing the keywords Blizzcon (case insensitive).
Score: 1828 (+0)

FrkFrJss Friday, Nov 04 9:02am GMT (GMT+00:00):
YUP!! Today, we got our first African-American president 8 years ago. Oh wait, you me...

FueledUpAndReadyToGo Friday, Nov 04 2:03pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
With the ro16 games starting as early as 17:00 CET this wait until 20:30 feels so loo...

Makro Friday, Nov 04 2:46pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
twix - ok kinder - ok drinks - ok potato chips - ok smarties - ok i'm ready that bliz...

The_Red_Viper Friday, Nov 04 2:48pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
But where are the passion posts? I am still working on mine, when does blizzcon start...

KtJ Friday, Nov 04 2:50pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
blizzcon.com/en-us/schedule#fri-nov-4 Schedule!

The_Templar Friday, Nov 04 3:01pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
If I start watching at 3:30pm EDT, how much of blizzcon am I going to miss?

Poopi Friday, Nov 04 3:03pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
People still think about Life especially since there has been no zerg as good yet. Ma...

Elentos Friday, Nov 04 3:33pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
You shouldn't associate yourself with such a plebian sport on the weekend of Blizzcon...

Noonius Friday, Nov 04 3:39pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
Admin, you say? Blizzcon 2014. Never forget

Poopi Friday, Nov 04 3:48pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
The cool thing about the bracket being relatively bad is that it makes for a fucking ...


+ Show Spoiler [WCS] +
Includes posts containing the keywords WCS (case insensitive).
Score: 266 (+0)

Elentos Tuesday, Nov 01 5:56pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
Redeye did a WCS event this year I think (E: He actually did 2, IEM Katowice & DH Val...

Otolia Wednesday, Nov 02 9:38am GMT (GMT+00:00):
I know we can't do banbets 1 to 6 in term of duration is actually not very interestin...

Sakat Wednesday, Nov 02 3:35pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
Well, both... I mean, imagine Elazer 2016 WCS World Champion

Elentos Thursday, Nov 03 9:37pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
You didn't misrepresent TY's TvP specifically. Here are the offline TvP winrates of a...

FueledUpAndReadyToGo Friday, Nov 04 1:50pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
'That's why noone will remember your name' Ironic as fuck now that Life's name is no ...


+ Show Spoiler [#IMadeThis] +
Includes posts containing the keywords #IMadeThis (case insensitive).
Score: 0 (+0)


+ Show Spoiler [#GiftPoints] +
Includes posts containing the keywords #GiftPoints (case insensitive).
Score: 0 (+0)



+ Show Spoiler [Most Passionate Posts] +
#1 with 302.2 points - Poopi Friday, Nov 04 3:48pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
The cool thing about the bracket being relatively bad is that it makes for a fucking good ro8 xD. A nice starter with ShoWTimE vs Elazer: a man who 2-0ed two top koreans + Sho...

#2 with 282.8 points - Elentos Thursday, Nov 03 5:42pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
Most of the time, build wise Stats is pretty much the most standard Protoss you could imagine. Not super gimmicky, but solid and conservative and with pretty much all traits t...

#3 with 181 points - Elentos Thursday, Nov 03 9:37pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
You didn't misrepresent TY's TvP specifically. Here are the offline TvP winrates of all Terrans who made a top 8 in Korea this year (I'd have taken online + offline but the di...

#4 with 164 points - FrkFrJss Thursday, Nov 03 8:22pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
To be fair, Neeb was also known to choke quite heavily. A person's winrate does generally tell how good that person is in a given matchup. It is true that Dark has performed v...

#5 with 133 points - opisska Thursday, Nov 03 4:50pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
I was thinking about what do I actually know about these players from the top of my head - about how the play mainly. Interestingly, I know absolutely nothing about Stats. I k...

#6 with 128.8 points - opisska Thursday, Nov 03 11:49am GMT (GMT+00:00):
While I must admit I was never really good in this hype business (and the whole photoshop thing kinda eludes me, even though I am someone who uses photoshop quite regularly fo...

#7 with 121.8 points - Biscuittzz Tuesday, Nov 01 11:23am GMT (GMT+00:00):
While your point is correct that if the bracket draw is already known, the players will most likely pick the games to win and lose to determine their Ro8 opponent. However, in...

#8 with 111.8 points - FrkFrJss Wednesday, Nov 02 8:25am GMT (GMT+00:00):
I'll admit that the odds are against a foreigner being in the finals, but did we think that a foreigner would win KeSPA cup? Did we think that a foreigner would even get out o...

#9 with 104.6 points - Fango Tuesday, Nov 01 3:57pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
I'm curious as to why he said that (I know nothing about him before Blizzcon). Although if he himself had such little faith in his macro game that he risked it all with proxy ...

#10 with 95.5 points - zakadar Thursday, Nov 03 5:34pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
byun plays almost everygame the same most time commitment on 2 base pressure stats tis kinda the only korean toss who knows how to play pvz into the later stages of the game a...

#11 with 89.2 points - ParksonVN Tuesday, Nov 01 10:55am GMT (GMT+00:00):
Ehh, you has only been following since 2015, thats why you dont know that in fact foreigner were copying Korean's style all the time before 2016, there were hell a lot of Kore...

#12 with 88.7 points - Topin Wednesday, Nov 02 11:43pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
while i love ByuN i see TY as a more solid player mostly in the mental aspect. if ByuN can get momentum he can win but TY is so good defending a looks so solid that is really ...

#13 with 85.6 points - Cinek357 Tuesday, Nov 01 10:20am GMT (GMT+00:00):
Some people act like there were groups full of foreigners and that's why they reached top 8. They are blind to the fact that their precious Korean gods actually did lose match...

#14 with 77.9 points - FrkFrJss Thursday, Nov 03 11:53pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
That is true, this year specifically, most (all) Terran have had trouble against Protoss.... Though I would rate Byun as the stronger threat because of his recent form than TY...

#15 with 72.8 points - AbouSV Tuesday, Nov 01 9:02pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
Prediction : ShoWTimE 3:2 Elazer - Hard to predict given how they both played last weekend. I want to believe in a fellow Zerg, but not sure about Elazer ZvP Neeb 0:3 Dark Dar...

#16 with 71.1 points - FueledUpAndReadyToGo Friday, Nov 04 2:48pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
Elazer spotted travelling to the convention center: Little did they know Showtime was already waiting

#17 with 69.5 points - Poopi Tuesday, Nov 01 10:56am GMT (GMT+00:00):
KR don't have similar playstyles at all. Just for the terrans for example, ByuN got a "in your face" style with strong timing attacks that can often end the game / do game end...

#18 with 69.3 points - FrkFrJss Monday, Oct 31 4:15pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
I'm also pretty hyped! It's the first time that I think the foreigners have a legitimate shot at making a Blizzcon finals, which would be absolutely crazy. Obviously Dark is t...

#19 with 69 points - Elentos Friday, Nov 04 12:05am GMT (GMT+00:00):
I would have, too. But the fact that ShoWTimE completely figured ByuN out and smashed his entire game plan to pieces (making it look easy) discouraged me from that line of tho...

#20 with 67.2 points - TheHumanLife Wednesday, Nov 02 8:12pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
Dark will destroy any terran in bo5 or 7. Even in HotS, when Maru and TaeJa were their peak, they got destroyed by Dark in bo5. Dark's ZvT is something no other zergs cannot e...


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KtJ
Profile Joined October 2014
United States3514 Posts
November 04 2016 15:57 GMT
#436
On November 05 2016 00:53 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 00:45 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On November 05 2016 00:40 Charoisaur wrote:
On November 05 2016 00:38 Elentos wrote:
On November 05 2016 00:37 Charoisaur wrote:
On November 05 2016 00:22 Jer99 wrote:
Thank God for a TvT though, could be useful for a build order compilation

step 1: make reapers
step 2: make tankivacs
step 3: ???????
step 4: Profit

Step 5: game is patched
Step 6: all your builds have to be changed
Step 7: ???
Step 8: give up

Step 9: switch to Zerg
Step 10: Profit

Step 11: Queue up for ladder
Step 12: Realize that you forgot to ban Echo
Step 13: It's Mech
Step 14: ???
Step 15: Cry

Step 16: Cry on the forums about balance
Step 17: Get flamed for being a noob.
Step 18: ????
Step 19: Uninstall sc2

Step 20: Switch to Overwatch.
"I thought I destroyed my CC but it seemed like the only thing I destroyed was Idra's mentality."
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-04 16:03:14
November 04 2016 15:59 GMT
#437
If anyone didn't see this one yet, leaks for the blizzcon announcements

Neosteel Enthusiast
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
November 04 2016 16:01 GMT
#438
On November 05 2016 00:54 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 00:51 opisska wrote:
On November 05 2016 00:24 The_Templar wrote:
On November 05 2016 00:23 Noonius wrote:
On November 05 2016 00:19 Shellshock wrote:
pineapple on pizza is actually pretty good


you only say that because you're biased mod

Does that mean I'm an unbiased mod?


Do you really want to establish "how do we like Templar as a mod" as a LR discussion topic? Do you?


That's a good question:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/website-feedback/489977-why-is-the_templar-such-a-bad-mod

Though it's come a bit too late since by now he's only a little more active as a mod than Shellshock.


Oh, the good old times when website feedback use to be more fun than LegalWip making urine jokes
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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zakadar
Profile Joined December 2015
Germany409 Posts
November 04 2016 16:06 GMT
#439
uhh I got in the top 10 nice lets keep going
TY my boy gogo
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
November 04 2016 16:09 GMT
#440
the hype intensifies, just 2 more hours until at least the opening ceremony starts
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
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