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His ID is still Neeblet

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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55587 Posts
November 04 2016 22:09 GMT
#2641
Neeb took two steps forward, he took two steps back. His army and Dark's lurkers came together, because opposites attract.
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FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4553 Posts
November 04 2016 22:09 GMT
#2642
On November 05 2016 07:07 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 07:05 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
On November 05 2016 07:02 Ej_ wrote:
On November 05 2016 07:02 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
I haven't played StarCraft 2 that much since Heart of the Swarm, so is it now normal for Protosses to play without splash damage?

you get storm after chargelot/archon/immortal, but it's usually on 8 gases


Why aren't Disruptors used in the matchup? They seem pretty awesome in PvP.

If you know it's lurkers (usually it's not) and have the time (very often if it's lurkers, you don't) you get disruptors. But they aren't "standard".

100% this. You should throw down a safety robo bay anyway as soon as you see the opponent commit to hyrda. Then it's just about scouting for den transition to confirm.
hi. big fan.
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9447 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-04 22:10:49
November 04 2016 22:09 GMT
#2643
On November 05 2016 07:03 Soularion wrote:
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On November 05 2016 07:01 Poopi wrote:
Hahaha Neeb got rekt so badly XD.
This feels so fucking good, the Neeb/US/foreign hype, especially by the casters, was so fucking annoying.

:D
The #2 TL Power Rank is down :o.

Let's see how #2 Community PR does after losing to your #13



Well the difference was that everyone had Solar at top 5, and his knockout was an actual upset.

On the other hand some people who actually looks at all past results only had Neeb at #10 (while predicting he went out of groups and lost at ro8).

But keep basing your entire rankings on one single offline tournament where a player gets the easiest schedule possible. It will make for a more active discussion this forum than reasonable rankings.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14000 Posts
November 04 2016 22:09 GMT
#2644
credit to apollo for not rage quitting yet
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Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-04 22:11:06
November 04 2016 22:10 GMT
#2645
On November 05 2016 07:07 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 07:05 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
On November 05 2016 07:02 Ej_ wrote:
On November 05 2016 07:02 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
I haven't played StarCraft 2 that much since Heart of the Swarm, so is it now normal for Protosses to play without splash damage?

you get storm after chargelot/archon/immortal, but it's usually on 8 gases


Why aren't Disruptors used in the matchup? They seem pretty awesome in PvP.

If you know it's lurkers (usually it's not) and have the time (very often if it's lurkers, you don't) you get disruptors. But they aren't "standard".


'Cause ling/bane is standard ZvP now?

EDIT: Already answered. This thread is too fast for me .
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
November 04 2016 22:10 GMT
#2646
On November 05 2016 07:01 Poopi wrote:
Hahaha Neeb got rekt so badly XD.
This feels so fucking good, the Neeb/US/foreign hype, especially by the casters, was so fucking annoying.

:D
The #2 TL Power Rank is down :o.

Rekt? The result says 3-0 but 2 of these three games were total coinflips/cheeses. Everyone can lose to cheese. Maru, Dark, Innovation, sOs (ok not sOs), even God lost to cheese several times. A problem of SC2 is that there is simply too much cheese, you can simply prevent the macro game if you want.
Without cheese this would have been a different series, and even Dark knows it. If he was confident, he would have played a macro game
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
November 04 2016 22:10 GMT
#2647
On November 05 2016 07:10 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 07:07 Ej_ wrote:
On November 05 2016 07:05 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
On November 05 2016 07:02 Ej_ wrote:
On November 05 2016 07:02 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
I haven't played StarCraft 2 that much since Heart of the Swarm, so is it now normal for Protosses to play without splash damage?

you get storm after chargelot/archon/immortal, but it's usually on 8 gases


Why aren't Disruptors used in the matchup? They seem pretty awesome in PvP.

If you know it's lurkers (usually it's not) and have the time (very often if it's lurkers, you don't) you get disruptors. But they aren't "standard".


'Cause ling/bane is standard ZvP now?

Yes
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
November 04 2016 22:10 GMT
#2648
On November 05 2016 07:08 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 07:08 Probe1 wrote:
On November 05 2016 07:05 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
On November 05 2016 07:02 Ej_ wrote:
On November 05 2016 07:02 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
I haven't played StarCraft 2 that much since Heart of the Swarm, so is it now normal for Protosses to play without splash damage?

you get storm after chargelot/archon/immortal, but it's usually on 8 gases


Why aren't Disruptors used in the matchup? They seem pretty awesome in PvP.

They are frequently. Neeb just didn't do eet.

In the Elazer - Showtime games Elazer was opting for ling bane which disruptors good against but necessitates Protoss skipping on archons which makes them extremely vulnerable to just being multi pronged to death.

I'd argue disruptors are awful vs ling/bane because lings just run circles around them or force you to friendly fire

Yes that's what makes it so chancy. I think more players would rather trust in their own skill (archon) than their opponent fucking up (disruptor) when faced with ling bane ravager.
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Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12486 Posts
November 04 2016 22:10 GMT
#2649
On November 05 2016 07:06 Wintex wrote:
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On November 05 2016 07:01 Nebuchad wrote:
On November 05 2016 06:59 Wintex wrote:
On November 05 2016 06:57 Nebuchad wrote:
On November 05 2016 06:56 Wintex wrote:
On November 05 2016 06:54 Nebuchad wrote:
On November 05 2016 06:52 Makro wrote:
On November 05 2016 06:50 papaz wrote:
this is typical when a foreigner gets a litlle bit good. they get studied and then fucked. this is what Koreans pro excel in.

once upon a time stephano was overly studied by koreans yet he kept winning


No he didn't.

Stephano had a pretty nice run when he was on form. Couldn't translate it to anything in Korea that was substantial, but his style was adapted, stolen and studied by most.


So, in other words, "no he didn't"?

I'm quite certain that every zerg ever doing the roach max, broodlord bullshit etc qualifies as overly studied, and studying him therefore gave you help against people generally in the matchup, no?

He was no joke comparatively.


Neeb isn't a joke either. You are defending the statement that Stephano kept winning after the Koreans studied him, as opposed to Neeb. This is simply not true. There is no definition of winning that you can apply to Stephano after he started being studied by Koreans that you can't apply to Neeb now.

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Yes. Stephano innovated and I think more people at a higher level comparatively were playing versus him than what Neeb is meeting.

But hey, quantifying this actually takes too much effort. I would rather save my wrists.


Well, you're wrong? I don't know what else to tell you. The data that you linked demonstrates it pretty clearly.
No will to live, no wish to die
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28535 Posts
November 04 2016 22:10 GMT
#2650
On November 05 2016 07:06 opisska wrote:
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On November 05 2016 07:05 Penev wrote:
On November 05 2016 07:01 Shellshock wrote:
Lilneeb

meanwhile charosaur is banned for pretty much the same

:o


Let's face it, he is banned for being an obnoxious prick for several years already.

Not that I condone this act of terror, of course

I noticed he did behave a lot better lately tho
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
November 04 2016 22:11 GMT
#2651


and Ej_ still not highlighted haha
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
TL+ Member
franky1992
Profile Joined October 2014
Italy10 Posts
November 04 2016 22:11 GMT
#2652
Why someone as bad as TotalBiscuit is casting WCS Global Finals? Worst casting ever. Poor Tod, he deserves someone way better.

User was warned for this post
blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
November 04 2016 22:11 GMT
#2653
On November 05 2016 07:08 Probe1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 07:05 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
On November 05 2016 07:02 Ej_ wrote:
On November 05 2016 07:02 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
I haven't played StarCraft 2 that much since Heart of the Swarm, so is it now normal for Protosses to play without splash damage?

you get storm after chargelot/archon/immortal, but it's usually on 8 gases


Why aren't Disruptors used in the matchup? They seem pretty awesome in PvP.

They are frequently. Neeb just didn't do eet.

In the Elazer - Showtime games Elazer was opting for ling bane which disruptors good against but necessitates Protoss skipping on archons which makes them extremely vulnerable to just being multi pronged to death.


What? Disruptors are awful against ling/bane...
Ganzi beat me without stim. Ostojiy beat me with a nydus. Siphonn beat me with probes. Revival beat my sentry-immortal all-in.
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4553 Posts
November 04 2016 22:11 GMT
#2654
On November 05 2016 07:08 Probe1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 07:05 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
On November 05 2016 07:02 Ej_ wrote:
On November 05 2016 07:02 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
I haven't played StarCraft 2 that much since Heart of the Swarm, so is it now normal for Protosses to play without splash damage?

you get storm after chargelot/archon/immortal, but it's usually on 8 gases


Why aren't Disruptors used in the matchup? They seem pretty awesome in PvP.

They are frequently. Neeb just didn't do eet.

In the Elazer - Showtime games Elazer was opting for ling bane which disruptors good against but necessitates Protoss skipping on archons which makes them extremely vulnerable to just being multi pronged to death.

Hey man, disruptors are not good against ling bane. Anyone with confident control won't lose much to sloworbs.
hi. big fan.
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
November 04 2016 22:11 GMT
#2655
On November 05 2016 07:10 Rollora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 07:01 Poopi wrote:
Hahaha Neeb got rekt so badly XD.
This feels so fucking good, the Neeb/US/foreign hype, especially by the casters, was so fucking annoying.

:D
The #2 TL Power Rank is down :o.

Rekt? The result says 3-0 but 2 of these three games were total coinflips/cheeses. Everyone can lose to cheese. Maru, Dark, Innovation, sOs (ok not sOs), even God lost to cheese several times. A problem of SC2 is that there is simply too much cheese, you can simply prevent the macro game if you want.
Without cheese this would have been a different series, and even Dark knows it. If he was confident, he would have played a macro game


Have you seen the fucking games? He got rightfully rekt for being insanely greedy when faced with cheese. His reaction was terrible.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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PinoKotsBeer
Profile Joined February 2014
Netherlands1385 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-04 22:11:25
November 04 2016 22:11 GMT
#2656
On November 05 2016 07:10 Rollora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 07:01 Poopi wrote:
Hahaha Neeb got rekt so badly XD.
This feels so fucking good, the Neeb/US/foreign hype, especially by the casters, was so fucking annoying.

:D
The #2 TL Power Rank is down :o.

Rekt? The result says 3-0 but 2 of these three games were total coinflips/cheeses. Everyone can lose to cheese. Maru, Dark, Innovation, sOs (ok not sOs), even God lost to cheese several times. A problem of SC2 is that there is simply too much cheese, you can simply prevent the macro game if you want.
Without cheese this would have been a different series, and even Dark knows it. If he was confident, he would have played a macro game

I was hoping for more macro games instead of these games....
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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13006 Posts
November 04 2016 22:11 GMT
#2657
On November 05 2016 07:08 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 07:07 Poopi wrote:
On November 05 2016 07:01 opisska wrote:
So, Poopi, looking forward to tomorrow? ))

Yeah of course, tomorrow is a win-win for me .
If Elazer win I win the sigbet, if he loses all foreigners will be eliminated and we won't have to hear about foreigners catching up until at least next year (hopefully ever again?).
No foreigner will ever be able to reach the skill level of the various best koreans terrans there has been in the history of Starcraft 2.

I still can't stop laughing from that 3-0. Now we'll get to see the real show of tonight :D.


It's also win-win for me, either I win the sigbet, or I will get a Pole in finals.

Everybody is a winner, isn't that just great?!

Yes, that's why you bet money for the opposing team in football. :D
WriterMaru
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
November 04 2016 22:11 GMT
#2658
OMG JAEDONG <3
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ramon
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4842 Posts
November 04 2016 22:11 GMT
#2659
JAEDONG
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Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-04 22:11:41
November 04 2016 22:11 GMT
#2660
JD
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