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Please keep the balance whine down, guys. Discussion's fine, whine is not.
atrox_
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom1710 Posts
February 03 2016 11:33 GMT
#801
On February 03 2016 20:32 Keeemy wrote:
Korean ads best ads.


I thoroughly enjoy the ridiculousness of US adverts over any other
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
February 03 2016 11:34 GMT
#802
can we fucking start the game already. its nearly 4 am...
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12901 Posts
February 03 2016 11:34 GMT
#803
On February 03 2016 20:25 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2016 20:25 Poopi wrote:
Curious played really badly but hey gratz I guess XD

Xd No

Enlight me with your knowledge o:
WriterMaru
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55554 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-03 11:36:50
February 03 2016 11:34 GMT
#804
On February 03 2016 20:34 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2016 20:25 Wintex wrote:
On February 03 2016 20:25 Poopi wrote:
Curious played really badly but hey gratz I guess XD

Xd No

Enlight me with your knowledge o:

Curious was winning fights off creep with 2/2 against 3/3 upgrades, fucking terrible play, right?
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15981 Posts
February 03 2016 11:35 GMT
#805
On February 03 2016 20:33 fezvez wrote:
Question : is there a terran unit/comp which can fight ultras head on?

Like, simple scenario : 200/200 of ground terran units (pre-split, whatever you want) vs 200/00 of ultras. Both side 1A against each other.

I was thinking mass thors with tanks behind?

head on you can beat ultras with ghost thor mine liberator pretty easily. problem is you can't really move out on the map with such an army because ultras will catch you offguard or flank/surround
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28485 Posts
February 03 2016 11:35 GMT
#806
On February 03 2016 20:32 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2016 20:31 Penev wrote:
On February 03 2016 20:30 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 03 2016 20:28 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
On February 03 2016 20:27 fezvez wrote:
On February 03 2016 20:25 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
should probably
have 1 less armor honestly
but the matchup overall is pretty balanced

Yeah, agreed. No need to make a drastic difference like revert the LotV buff like some claim

yea even 1 less armor doubles the damage a marine does to them when both fully upgraded


I feel like they'd need to make adjustments to early/midgame if they nerfed zerg lategame. Byun would have ripped Curious apart if zerg wasn't so powerful at hive tech, and that's with Curious playing really well.

Not sure yet if ultras are too strong though, they might be.

Look, I know it's not anti Protoss whine but you might want put the notification back up


Suddenly you like it?

Wasn't even me who put it up!

I apologize, looks like I misread you. You get misread a lot
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24420 Posts
February 03 2016 11:35 GMT
#807
Discussion's fine, but whine is quicker. Getting banned is slow with liquor.

Yeah I thought of that while writing the mod note
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
February 03 2016 11:35 GMT
#808
On February 03 2016 20:33 Soularion wrote:
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On February 03 2016 20:30 ecnahc wrote:
On February 03 2016 20:29 Soularion wrote:
I agree with Scarlett's thoughts. TvZ is balanced, might be an amazing-er matchup if ultras are nerfed but let's wait and see if terrans can find a way around it first. Worst case, it's not like it's imba or anything. Terrans can still win, and win easily.


people need to take this attitude towards all of the balance whine, just fucking play the game if you enjoy it and stop if it's making you grind your teeth


Some balance whine is justified. I think adepts were hella gross, and I think BL-infestor was hella gross, but this is not either of those things. I'm entirely sure terrans will find an answer to it, so just let the game evolve naturally, guys. It's not like ultras being strong are costing us awesome games, judging from this goddamn series!

exactly. people forget that even when the game seems imbalanced, a lot of it is maps, and a lot of solutions need to be developed.

People like fukin Savior singlehandedly made stats in bw kinda bullshit.
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Arvendilin
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany1878 Posts
February 03 2016 11:36 GMT
#809
On February 03 2016 20:33 fezvez wrote:
Question : is there a terran unit/comp which can fight ultras head on?

Like, simple scenario : 200/200 of ground terran units (pre-split, whatever you want) vs 200/00 of ultras. Both side 1A against each other.

I was thinking mass thors with tanks behind?

Liberators and ghosts fuck em up, but you need to play economically to get there, which is not at all what Byun did, he played super aggressive, look at how he even floated his main and stuff which meant he had to sacrifice 3 libs to stay behind, he never wanted the game to go that long
My heroes: Jangbi, Bisu, Stork and BeSt for BW, Rain, Zest and Stats for SC2! Need a better Signature tbh...
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15981 Posts
February 03 2016 11:36 GMT
#810
On February 03 2016 20:33 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2016 20:30 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 03 2016 20:28 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
On February 03 2016 20:27 fezvez wrote:
On February 03 2016 20:25 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
should probably
have 1 less armor honestly
but the matchup overall is pretty balanced

Yeah, agreed. No need to make a drastic difference like revert the LotV buff like some claim

yea even 1 less armor doubles the damage a marine does to them when both fully upgraded


I feel like they'd need to make adjustments to early/midgame if they nerfed zerg lategame. Byun would have ripped Curious apart if zerg wasn't so powerful at hive tech, and that's with Curious playing really well.

Not sure yet if ultras are too strong though, they might be.


I'd love to see it tested. I think TvZ is so exciting, but once upgraded Ultras are out, unless the Terran is massively ahead the excitement is gone. Make the armor upgrade +3 and see where it goes. You can always buff zerg midgame if needed.

tankivac removed would make zerg midgame stronger :D
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
ecnahc
Profile Joined January 2010
United States395 Posts
February 03 2016 11:36 GMT
#811
On February 03 2016 20:33 Soularion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2016 20:30 ecnahc wrote:
On February 03 2016 20:29 Soularion wrote:
I agree with Scarlett's thoughts. TvZ is balanced, might be an amazing-er matchup if ultras are nerfed but let's wait and see if terrans can find a way around it first. Worst case, it's not like it's imba or anything. Terrans can still win, and win easily.


people need to take this attitude towards all of the balance whine, just fucking play the game if you enjoy it and stop if it's making you grind your teeth


Some balance whine is justified. I think adepts were hella gross, and I think BL-infestor was hella gross, but this is not either of those things. I'm entirely sure terrans will find an answer to it, so just let the game evolve naturally, guys. It's not like ultras being strong are costing us awesome games, judging from this goddamn series!


regardless of whether or not something is broken, i just want people to take a step back and take more time before they call out imba.
inside a cloud of resentment and vanity
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
February 03 2016 11:36 GMT
#812
On February 03 2016 20:35 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2016 20:33 fezvez wrote:
Question : is there a terran unit/comp which can fight ultras head on?

Like, simple scenario : 200/200 of ground terran units (pre-split, whatever you want) vs 200/00 of ultras. Both side 1A against each other.

I was thinking mass thors with tanks behind?

head on you can beat ultras with ghost thor mine liberator pretty easily. problem is you can't really move out on the map with such an army because ultras will catch you offguard or flank/surround

Unless they don't make cyclone become trash :D
Cylone is bad design unit but it's need for mech because new economic.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
February 03 2016 11:36 GMT
#813
On February 03 2016 20:35 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Discussion's fine, but whine is quicker. Getting banned is slow with liquor.

Yeah I thought of that while writing the mod note

Your poetry is inspirational.
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
February 03 2016 11:36 GMT
#814
As we're in downtime discussion mode. I actually would like ghost design explored. The way that snipe works is weird both against Z and P, and it's extinct versus T. It doesn't really need to be stronger per se, but rather less gimmicky.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
Shankapotamus
Profile Joined May 2010
United States428 Posts
February 03 2016 11:37 GMT
#815
I would say wow he just a-moved at that last fight... but ByuN was actually pretty behind in supply. If supplies were near even, zerg would have to actually micro their infestors and vipers, which would look much more impressive on Curious's part. The game looked like ByuN constantly trying to slow down Curious's bases, and he was actually taking pretty good trades considering the gold bases Curious has for a longer amount of time. He could only trade so well with exceptional multitasking and micro which was super fun to watch. But Curious was able to get his first couple of ultras, which in turn stalled the onslaught ByuN was dishing out. At this point, if ByuN had a few more liberators, or had started ghosts earlier, there may have been a chance for him to dish out more damage. But that wasn't the case, so Curious's first two ultras were basically able to stall the game long enough for him to get a faceroll amount of ultralisks and it ended up with him just a-moving while outsupplying ByuN. Of course that would squeeze out all the Terran tears when they're boy had been working so hard the whole game only to lose in such a fashion.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12901 Posts
February 03 2016 11:37 GMT
#816
On February 03 2016 20:27 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2016 20:25 Poopi wrote:
Curious played really badly but hey gratz I guess XD

yea and byun was losing fights off creep with an upgrade lead before ultras im sure he played perfect /s

Curious engaged worse what's the point :D
WriterMaru
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24420 Posts
February 03 2016 11:37 GMT
#817
On February 03 2016 20:36 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2016 20:35 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Discussion's fine, but whine is quicker. Getting banned is slow with liquor.

Yeah I thought of that while writing the mod note

Your poetry is inspirational.


It's Ozzy ;(
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
February 03 2016 11:37 GMT
#818
On February 03 2016 20:35 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Discussion's fine, but whine is quicker. Getting banned is slow with liquor.

Yeah I thought of that while writing the mod note


I guess I gotta take my tears to reddit then
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15981 Posts
February 03 2016 11:37 GMT
#819
On February 03 2016 20:33 Soularion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2016 20:30 ecnahc wrote:
On February 03 2016 20:29 Soularion wrote:
I agree with Scarlett's thoughts. TvZ is balanced, might be an amazing-er matchup if ultras are nerfed but let's wait and see if terrans can find a way around it first. Worst case, it's not like it's imba or anything. Terrans can still win, and win easily.


people need to take this attitude towards all of the balance whine, just fucking play the game if you enjoy it and stop if it's making you grind your teeth


Some balance whine is justified. I think adepts were hella gross, and I think BL-infestor was hella gross, but this is not either of those things. I'm entirely sure terrans will find an answer to it, so just let the game evolve naturally, guys. It's not like ultras being strong are costing us awesome games, judging from this goddamn series!

i heard the exact same things being said about BL/infestor and adepts. just let the game evolve...
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
February 03 2016 11:37 GMT
#820
lol ByuN getting rekt
still no logic in SC2
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