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Please keep the balance whine down, guys. Discussion's fine, whine is not.
Isualin
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1903 Posts
February 03 2016 11:29 GMT
#781
On February 03 2016 20:25 SC2Toastie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2016 20:24 Tiaraju9 wrote:
Terrans really cant stop the whining.

People don't like exciting games ending with an Ultra amove where Zerg point-and-clicks 2 spells and Terran does a gazillion things at once just to die less hard

Yeah, first and the last game was great to watch early on(Ling, bling, muta, infestor vs liberator, mine, marine thor) until the ultras come to roflstomp over the terran army There was nothing strategic or micro intensive, simple a move to most recent terran base
| INnoVation | The literal god TY | ByuNjwa | LRSL when? |
Soularion
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Canada2764 Posts
February 03 2016 11:29 GMT
#782
I agree with Scarlett's thoughts. TvZ is balanced, might be an amazing-er matchup if ultras are nerfed but let's wait and see if terrans can find a way around it first. Worst case, it's not like it's imba or anything. Terrans can still win, and win easily.
Writermaru pls
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55586 Posts
February 03 2016 11:29 GMT
#783
A countdown for the break... the technology has returned. I'm so proud of you Afreeca.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16084 Posts
February 03 2016 11:30 GMT
#784
On February 03 2016 20:27 Phredxor wrote:
Jesus the salt is strong in here. People forget that Byun won a BO5 against Zerg like 2 days ago? He just got outplayed.

tvz overall probably isn't imbalanced but once ultras pop out the game is over and design-wise that's really bad.
Of course terran has good options to kill them before
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-03 11:30:35
February 03 2016 11:30 GMT
#785
On February 03 2016 20:28 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2016 20:27 fezvez wrote:
On February 03 2016 20:25 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
should probably
have 1 less armor honestly
but the matchup overall is pretty balanced

Yeah, agreed. No need to make a drastic difference like revert the LotV buff like some claim

yea even 1 less armor doubles the damage a marine does to them when both fully upgraded


I feel like they'd need to make adjustments to early/midgame if they nerfed zerg lategame. Byun would have ripped Curious apart if zerg wasn't so powerful at hive tech, and that's with Curious playing really well.

Not sure yet if ultras are too strong though, they might be.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
February 03 2016 11:30 GMT
#786
On February 03 2016 20:28 Sif_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2016 20:25 ecnahc wrote:
On February 03 2016 20:25 Wintex wrote:
guys come on he didn't just win because of the ultras, curious defended a lot of pushes well to even survive


you can't stop the whine in the LR sadly


game shouldnt play out like that.....

they were DEAD EVEN, trading left and right...as soon as ultra cavern and +3 armor upgraded finished curious simply stalled....Byun attacked top center base? sack it and expand on bottom. rinse and repeat until you have a handful of ultras and then its on auto pilot until its over

He lost a fight and had 30 scvs with less bases lol. Dead even is a strong word.
ecnahc
Profile Joined January 2010
United States395 Posts
February 03 2016 11:30 GMT
#787
On February 03 2016 20:29 Soularion wrote:
I agree with Scarlett's thoughts. TvZ is balanced, might be an amazing-er matchup if ultras are nerfed but let's wait and see if terrans can find a way around it first. Worst case, it's not like it's imba or anything. Terrans can still win, and win easily.


people need to take this attitude towards all of the balance whine, just fucking play the game if you enjoy it and stop if it's making you grind your teeth
inside a cloud of resentment and vanity
mCon.Hephaistas
Profile Joined May 2014
Netherlands891 Posts
February 03 2016 11:30 GMT
#788
On February 03 2016 20:25 Sif_ wrote:
Seriously, if only ultras had some cool micro or a different mechanic.......but its just dumb that a unit can just walk forward and trample over anything on AN EVEN GAME WHERE BYUN WAS PRESSURING ALL THE TIMEEEE


Was not an even game, byun had a worse economy the whole game
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
February 03 2016 11:31 GMT
#789
why did they cut that AOA ad? Nothing goes right today
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
February 03 2016 11:31 GMT
#790
One of the best macro zergs in the game wins 3:2 in a matchup Dream said was 7:3 in favor of Terran and the LR is full of whine.

Never change, Terran players.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
February 03 2016 11:31 GMT
#791
All the people w/ terran icons be like "ultras op"
memes are a dish best served dank
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16848 Posts
February 03 2016 11:31 GMT
#792
On February 03 2016 20:31 Noonius wrote:
why did they cut that AOA ad? Nothing goes right today

#blamesonic
The Bomber boy
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28535 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-03 11:33:02
February 03 2016 11:31 GMT
#793
@DLO
Look, I know it's not anti Protoss whine but you might want put the notification back up
I Protoss winner, could it be?
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
February 03 2016 11:31 GMT
#794
On February 03 2016 20:31 Ej_ wrote:
One of the best macro zergs in the game wins 3:2 in a matchup Dream said was 7:3 in favor of Terran and the LR is full of whine.

Never change, Terran players.

Nah man, curious forgot how to be a fucking beast in this matchup post lotv.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
February 03 2016 11:32 GMT
#795
On February 03 2016 20:31 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2016 20:30 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 03 2016 20:28 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
On February 03 2016 20:27 fezvez wrote:
On February 03 2016 20:25 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
should probably
have 1 less armor honestly
but the matchup overall is pretty balanced

Yeah, agreed. No need to make a drastic difference like revert the LotV buff like some claim

yea even 1 less armor doubles the damage a marine does to them when both fully upgraded


I feel like they'd need to make adjustments to early/midgame if they nerfed zerg lategame. Byun would have ripped Curious apart if zerg wasn't so powerful at hive tech, and that's with Curious playing really well.

Not sure yet if ultras are too strong though, they might be.

Look, I know it's not anti Protoss whine but you might want put the notification back up


Suddenly you like it?

Wasn't even me who put it up!
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Keeemy
Profile Joined November 2012
Finland7855 Posts
February 03 2016 11:32 GMT
#796
Korean ads best ads.
Hello
Soularion
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Canada2764 Posts
February 03 2016 11:33 GMT
#797
On February 03 2016 20:30 ecnahc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2016 20:29 Soularion wrote:
I agree with Scarlett's thoughts. TvZ is balanced, might be an amazing-er matchup if ultras are nerfed but let's wait and see if terrans can find a way around it first. Worst case, it's not like it's imba or anything. Terrans can still win, and win easily.


people need to take this attitude towards all of the balance whine, just fucking play the game if you enjoy it and stop if it's making you grind your teeth


Some balance whine is justified. I think adepts were hella gross, and I think BL-infestor was hella gross, but this is not either of those things. I'm entirely sure terrans will find an answer to it, so just let the game evolve naturally, guys. It's not like ultras being strong are costing us awesome games, judging from this goddamn series!
Writermaru pls
fezvez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
France3021 Posts
February 03 2016 11:33 GMT
#798
Question : is there a terran unit/comp which can fight ultras head on?

Like, simple scenario : 200/200 of ground terran units (pre-split, whatever you want) vs 200/00 of ultras. Both side 1A against each other.

I was thinking mass thors with tanks behind?
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
February 03 2016 11:33 GMT
#799
On February 03 2016 20:30 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2016 20:28 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
On February 03 2016 20:27 fezvez wrote:
On February 03 2016 20:25 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
should probably
have 1 less armor honestly
but the matchup overall is pretty balanced

Yeah, agreed. No need to make a drastic difference like revert the LotV buff like some claim

yea even 1 less armor doubles the damage a marine does to them when both fully upgraded


I feel like they'd need to make adjustments to early/midgame if they nerfed zerg lategame. Byun would have ripped Curious apart if zerg wasn't so powerful at hive tech, and that's with Curious playing really well.

Not sure yet if ultras are too strong though, they might be.


I'd love to see it tested. I think TvZ is so exciting, but once upgraded Ultras are out, unless the Terran is massively ahead the excitement is gone. Make the armor upgrade +3 and see where it goes. You can always buff zerg midgame if needed.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
February 03 2016 11:33 GMT
#800
I am OK with A move non sense unit because ultra always be like that at the first beginning.It just need more counter than nerf imo.
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