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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On September 26 2015 04:55 Boucot wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2015 04:53 HolydaKing wrote:
I'm sure Lilbow would prefer to play against Life than against Byul right now... though both are gonna be hard. Well, Lilbow can only do better than what everyone expects from him (mainly getting destroyed in the first round), Life happens to be one of the less unbeatable opponents in his current shape.
Unfortunately the five weeks between now and then will avail Life much more than Lilbow ,)
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On September 26 2015 04:55 Boucot wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2015 04:53 HolydaKing wrote:
I'm sure Lilbow would prefer to play against Life than against Byul right now... though both are gonna be hard. Well, Lilbow can only do better than what everyone expects from him (mainly getting destroyed in the first round), Life happens to be one of the less unbeatable opponents in his current shape.
Yep, I'd say he's fairly beatable for anyone at Blizzcon... just not in a good shape right now.
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On September 26 2015 04:54 ZAiNs wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2015 04:51 Rollora wrote:
What was the reason there weren't more terrans by the way? KT hates TY so much that they barely send him out for proleague and didn't send him here to maybe get a Blizzcon spot. No other Terrans could make Blizzcon. ForGG also cancelled. Keen did win Gfinity though.
they hate TY so much, they even cancelled Zest so that sOs could replace him and push TY out of the top 16 lol
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On September 26 2015 04:55 Boucot wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2015 04:53 HolydaKing wrote:
I'm sure Lilbow would prefer to play against Life than against Byul right now... though both are gonna be hard. Well, Lilbow can only do better than what everyone expects from him (mainly getting destroyed in the first round), Life happens to be one of the less unbeatable opponents in his current shape.
Lilbow's best bet was to get a zerg who has been off his game lately. he gets it with Life. With Byul I don't see him winning a game. (Of course I think it's 1-3 at best vs Life is Life shows up at all but still)
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On September 26 2015 04:56 Rollora wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2015 04:54 ZAiNs wrote:On September 26 2015 04:51 Rollora wrote:
What was the reason there weren't more terrans by the way? KT hates TY so much that they barely send him out for proleague and didn't send him here to maybe get a Blizzcon spot. No other Terrans could make Blizzcon. ForGG also cancelled. Keen did win Gfinity though. Couldn't they just send out Flash (or other Terrans of other teams) just for some wins and entertainment. Flash seems pretty good recently. The games vs Innovation in Code S were all very close, trashed maru and almost all-killed Jin Air,...
The only Kespa teams that like to let their players leave Korea are Samsung and Jin Air. Everyone else is only allowed to leave if they win a IEM qual.
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On September 26 2015 04:56 HellHound wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2015 04:54 Rollora wrote:On September 26 2015 04:50 HellHound wrote:On September 26 2015 04:50 Rollora wrote:On September 26 2015 04:45 HellHound wrote:On September 26 2015 04:45 fezvez wrote:On September 26 2015 04:44 Rollora wrote:On September 26 2015 04:39 stuchiu wrote:On September 26 2015 04:36 Rollora wrote:On September 26 2015 04:33 Noonius wrote:
ZVZ FINAL The struggle was real, now I am crying: First I was whining around, that protoss bullshit makes the game too versatile and I don't want it to win Now we have a ZvZ instead of PvZ finals. Hmmm the important thing is you found a thing to complain about in every instance. that is what i was pointing too with that post. Something is wrong with me No, you fit right in the SC2 community. You should go to Reddit too You should get a special corruptor Icon. Somehow I can't stop grinning at that comment. Either it was fun. Or is it because I am drunk? Why not both? HAAHHAHAHAAA I cured your whining so send me some of your booze. I was always happy to pay the doctors bill after being cured. What do you accept? Jura (18 yo) Arran Ardbeg or some Austrian and German beer? 10L of your best German beer please.
Will do, doc.
And if you ever come close to ma hood (Vienna right now), be sure I will show you some nice places
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On September 26 2015 04:55 Boucot wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2015 04:53 HolydaKing wrote:
I'm sure Lilbow would prefer to play against Life than against Byul right now... though both are gonna be hard. Well, Lilbow can only do better than what everyone expects from him (mainly getting destroyed in the first round), Life happens to be one of the less unbeatable opponents in his current shape.
I really think Life will come up in world stomping form to blizzcon.
The game he lost vs Maru he looked to be on the edge of figuring something out vs mech.
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On September 26 2015 04:57 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2015 04:56 Rollora wrote:On September 26 2015 04:54 ZAiNs wrote:On September 26 2015 04:51 Rollora wrote:
What was the reason there weren't more terrans by the way? KT hates TY so much that they barely send him out for proleague and didn't send him here to maybe get a Blizzcon spot. No other Terrans could make Blizzcon. ForGG also cancelled. Keen did win Gfinity though. Couldn't they just send out Flash (or other Terrans of other teams) just for some wins and entertainment. Flash seems pretty good recently. The games vs Innovation in Code S were all very close, trashed maru and almost all-killed Jin Air,... The only Kespa teams that like to let their players leave Korea are Samsung and Jin Air. Everyone else is only allowed to leave if they win a IEM qual. SKT get's no respect rofl
Dark is that this dram hack
soO was at it last year
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Ok, guys and girls - who is gonna to win? Hyun or Solar?
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On September 26 2015 04:59 Verafin wrote:
Ok, guys and girls - who is gonna to win? Hyun or Solar?
solar
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On September 26 2015 04:59 Verafin wrote:
Ok, guys and girls - who is gonna to win? Hyun or Solar?
Solar 3-0
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On September 26 2015 04:42 Rollora wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2015 04:36 HellHound wrote:On September 26 2015 04:34 ZAiNs wrote:On September 26 2015 04:32 HellHound wrote:On September 26 2015 04:31 ZAiNs wrote:On September 26 2015 04:27 Rollora wrote:On September 26 2015 04:22 HellHound wrote:On September 26 2015 04:17 ZAiNs wrote:On September 26 2015 04:14 Rollora wrote:On September 26 2015 04:08 HellHound wrote:
[quote]Every sport and game has hidden information SC2 is just more blatant about it.
Protoss having the most varied cheeses is a fact no one right in the head is arguing that so there is no need to repeat it over and over :D
Sorry, it just annoys me, that you can win a game solely by surprising an enemy  It really kills the fun for me. It completely takes it away for me, and many others. Its bad design I think Starcraft is a great game if you have a fun, macro games against zerg or terran, even toss if you have one that doesn't cheese. But it immidiately gets frustrating, more then a normal loss, when you lose JUST because of BS. I hope you understand my frustration  You're probably only going to lose to a surprise if you take risks. Though at a top-level I admit it's necessary to take risks sometimes. I do think you're blowing things out of proportion, people seem to think PvP is hast he most luck and bullshit yet someone like Zest has an insane PvP winrate vs other Koreans despite PvP's reputation. Oh lol someone is arguing that protoss isn't a bag of bullshit haha If you play safe in to cheese it makes it harder to defend earlier timings If you play safe vs early timings you expose yourself to later timings Playing safe vs later timings involve skipping safety measures to early timings/cheese to get more econ before they hit. Balancing those is what zvp is about. There is no one safe build. thats the struggle. The constand "ladder - mindgame" btw why the hell didn't he recall out before everything died? Well when you watch sOs he's not playing 'ladder mindgames'. What is your point anyway? I truly want to know what you are arguing for. Against the notion that sOs is some guy who just flips coins. Or that flipping coins is an issue in SC2 at all... It's mainly just a way for people to rationlize their ladder losses and minimize their own blame. Rollora admits and respects sOs skill so nothing to argue about there. Don't you agree that protoss has more ways to get easy wins at high levels than zerg or terran tho? Thx! yeah, I am deeply impressed by the amount of builds he knows and he always finds a solution/way to get out of a troublesome situation, pressure the oponent, comebacks. He impressed me at his reverse all kill, he impressed me today. But still I hate these sort of games, won by cheese or cheesy play. And while I would never call Protoss imba, their huge variety of BS/cheese to choose from makes this race so hard to predict and therefore having a slight edge in some way - it is not predictable. And the book of protoss bullshit shows, this is simply too much, no other race has so many cheeses to choose from. The race would also do fine with half these cheese-builds
I don't think so. Protoss is currently balanced around that. We will have to wait and see whether it will stay that way in LotV. My guess is that it will.
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so I was checking DH record since this is a 2nd ZvZ final in a row and like at least 4th one overall
Protoss didn't win any Dreamhack in 2014, weird statistic
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On September 26 2015 04:59 HellHound wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2015 04:57 stuchiu wrote:On September 26 2015 04:56 Rollora wrote:On September 26 2015 04:54 ZAiNs wrote:On September 26 2015 04:51 Rollora wrote:
What was the reason there weren't more terrans by the way? KT hates TY so much that they barely send him out for proleague and didn't send him here to maybe get a Blizzcon spot. No other Terrans could make Blizzcon. ForGG also cancelled. Keen did win Gfinity though. Couldn't they just send out Flash (or other Terrans of other teams) just for some wins and entertainment. Flash seems pretty good recently. The games vs Innovation in Code S were all very close, trashed maru and almost all-killed Jin Air,... The only Kespa teams that like to let their players leave Korea are Samsung and Jin Air. Everyone else is only allowed to leave if they win a IEM qual. SKT get's no respect rofl Dark is that this dram hack soO was at it last year
KT were truly the most evil kespa team.
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On September 26 2015 04:59 Verafin wrote:
Ok, guys and girls - who is gonna to win? Hyun or Solar?
Solar 3-1
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On September 26 2015 04:57 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2015 04:55 Boucot wrote:On September 26 2015 04:53 HolydaKing wrote:
I'm sure Lilbow would prefer to play against Life than against Byul right now... though both are gonna be hard. Well, Lilbow can only do better than what everyone expects from him (mainly getting destroyed in the first round), Life happens to be one of the less unbeatable opponents in his current shape. Unfortunately the five weeks between now and then will avail Life much more than Lilbow ,)
That's why I said "in his current shape". If he does the same comeback as last year (and I feel he'll be way stronger there than he is now) he'll be a scary opponent as always. But Lilbow will train in Korea for 3 weeks and he wants to be #1 on KR ladder !
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On September 26 2015 04:57 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2015 04:56 Rollora wrote:On September 26 2015 04:54 ZAiNs wrote:On September 26 2015 04:51 Rollora wrote:
What was the reason there weren't more terrans by the way? KT hates TY so much that they barely send him out for proleague and didn't send him here to maybe get a Blizzcon spot. No other Terrans could make Blizzcon. ForGG also cancelled. Keen did win Gfinity though. Couldn't they just send out Flash (or other Terrans of other teams) just for some wins and entertainment. Flash seems pretty good recently. The games vs Innovation in Code S were all very close, trashed maru and almost all-killed Jin Air,... The only Kespa teams that like to let their players leave Korea are Samsung and Jin Air. Everyone else is only allowed to leave if they win a IEM qual.
I said it yesterday but I'll say it again, I really don't get why Samsung doesn't do even more international advertising. Everyone knows about Samsung so it would only make sense to send people around more/recruit more international players
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On September 26 2015 04:57 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2015 04:56 Rollora wrote:On September 26 2015 04:54 ZAiNs wrote:On September 26 2015 04:51 Rollora wrote:
What was the reason there weren't more terrans by the way? KT hates TY so much that they barely send him out for proleague and didn't send him here to maybe get a Blizzcon spot. No other Terrans could make Blizzcon. ForGG also cancelled. Keen did win Gfinity though. Couldn't they just send out Flash (or other Terrans of other teams) just for some wins and entertainment. Flash seems pretty good recently. The games vs Innovation in Code S were all very close, trashed maru and almost all-killed Jin Air,... The only Kespa teams that like to let their players leave Korea are Samsung and Jin Air. Everyone else is only allowed to leave if they win a IEM qual.
When it's this time of the year though they let them go anywhere for the Blizzcon points. DH Bucharest was insane (I think in 2013?) and even had Flash. But KT just hates TY so much .
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Wow solar speaks pretty good english!!!
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On September 26 2015 05:01 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2015 04:59 HellHound wrote:On September 26 2015 04:57 stuchiu wrote:On September 26 2015 04:56 Rollora wrote:On September 26 2015 04:54 ZAiNs wrote:On September 26 2015 04:51 Rollora wrote:
What was the reason there weren't more terrans by the way? KT hates TY so much that they barely send him out for proleague and didn't send him here to maybe get a Blizzcon spot. No other Terrans could make Blizzcon. ForGG also cancelled. Keen did win Gfinity though. Couldn't they just send out Flash (or other Terrans of other teams) just for some wins and entertainment. Flash seems pretty good recently. The games vs Innovation in Code S were all very close, trashed maru and almost all-killed Jin Air,... The only Kespa teams that like to let their players leave Korea are Samsung and Jin Air. Everyone else is only allowed to leave if they win a IEM qual. SKT get's no respect rofl Dark is that this dram hack soO was at it last year KT were truly the most evil kespa team.
can we blame the coach ?
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