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usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
September 25 2015 19:44 GMT
#1721
On September 26 2015 04:38 jalstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2015 04:37 usopsama wrote:
Please win, Solar. I want a Kespa elephant champion.


Hyun is probably the best BW player at the tourney besides fantasy and Jaedong.

All three of them are traitors though.
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
September 25 2015 19:45 GMT
#1722
Fantasy is probably Solar's biggest fan in the world right now
fezvez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
France3021 Posts
September 25 2015 19:45 GMT
#1723
On September 26 2015 04:44 Rollora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2015 04:39 stuchiu wrote:
On September 26 2015 04:36 Rollora wrote:
On September 26 2015 04:33 Noonius wrote:
ZVZ FINAL

The struggle was real, now I am crying:

First I was whining around, that protoss bullshit makes the game too versatile and I don't want it to win
Now we have a ZvZ instead of PvZ finals. Hmmm


the important thing is you found a thing to complain about in every instance.

that is what i was pointing too with that post. Something is wrong with me

No, you fit right in the SC2 community. You should go to Reddit too
shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
September 25 2015 19:45 GMT
#1724
On September 26 2015 04:38 HellHound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2015 04:36 shid0x wrote:
i'm tore between two dilemas about the final.

1.Fuck zvz finals
2.Solar is awesome

Just go GO SOLAR GO CRUSH THAT CHEESY ZERG FUCK GO SOLAR GO
It's not that hard zvz final is all hyun's fault after all.


yes fuck HyuN

GO SOLAR
GO GALAXY PHONE PLAYER
FUCK APPLE
#JESUISFANTASY
RIP MKP
HellHound
Profile Joined September 2014
Bulgaria5962 Posts
September 25 2015 19:45 GMT
#1725
On September 26 2015 04:45 fezvez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2015 04:44 Rollora wrote:
On September 26 2015 04:39 stuchiu wrote:
On September 26 2015 04:36 Rollora wrote:
On September 26 2015 04:33 Noonius wrote:
ZVZ FINAL

The struggle was real, now I am crying:

First I was whining around, that protoss bullshit makes the game too versatile and I don't want it to win
Now we have a ZvZ instead of PvZ finals. Hmmm


the important thing is you found a thing to complain about in every instance.

that is what i was pointing too with that post. Something is wrong with me

No, you fit right in the SC2 community. You should go to Reddit too

You should get a special corruptor Icon.
Classic GosoO |sOs| Everyone has to give in, let Life win | Zest Is The Best | Roach Cultist | I recognize the might and wisdom of my Otherworldly overlord | Air vs Air 200/200 SC2 is best SC2 | PRIME has been robbed | Fuck prime go ST | ROACH ROACH ROACH
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32761 Posts
September 25 2015 19:46 GMT
#1726
The winner of the tiebreaker (if it happens) should be awarded one WCS point to barely inch past the cut off line.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
HellHound
Profile Joined September 2014
Bulgaria5962 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-25 19:47:11
September 25 2015 19:46 GMT
#1727
On September 26 2015 04:45 shid0x wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2015 04:38 HellHound wrote:
On September 26 2015 04:36 shid0x wrote:
i'm tore between two dilemas about the final.

1.Fuck zvz finals
2.Solar is awesome

Just go GO SOLAR GO CRUSH THAT CHEESY ZERG FUCK GO SOLAR GO
It's not that hard zvz final is all hyun's fault after all.


yes fuck HyuN

GO SOLAR
GO GALAXY PHONE PLAYER
FUCK APPLE
#JESUISFANTASY

Fuck me I like your chant better

GO SOLAR
GO GALAXY PHONE PLAYER
FUCK APPLE
#JESUSISREALITY
Classic GosoO |sOs| Everyone has to give in, let Life win | Zest Is The Best | Roach Cultist | I recognize the might and wisdom of my Otherworldly overlord | Air vs Air 200/200 SC2 is best SC2 | PRIME has been robbed | Fuck prime go ST | ROACH ROACH ROACH
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17750 Posts
September 25 2015 19:47 GMT
#1728
WCS Global Final bracket so far, updated after Hyun vs Reality and sOs vs Solar
[image loading]

Most Likely Matches (compared to before the semifinals)
kr Maru vs kr Rogue has a 100% chance for the first round of Blizzcon, from 100%.
kr PartinG vs kr sOs has a 100% chance for the first round of Blizzcon, up from 50.26%.
kr Rain vs kr Polt has a 100% chance for the first round of Blizzcon, up from 68.38%.
kr Dream vs kr Hydra has a 100% chance for the first round of Blizzcon, from 100%.
kr HyuN vs kr herO has a 76.57% chance for the first round of Blizzcon, up from 42.09%.
kr INnoVation vs kr Zest has a 62.37% chance for the first round of Blizzcon, up from 42.64%.
kr Life vs fr Lilbow has a 62.37% chance for the first round of Blizzcon, up from 31.34%.
kr ByuL vs kr Classic has a 62.37% chance for the first round of Blizzcon, up from 62.36%.
kr INnoVation vs kr Classic has a 37.63% chance for the first round of Blizzcon, down from 37.64%.
kr Life vs kr Zest has a 37.63% chance for the first round of Blizzcon, down from 45.47%.
kr ByuL vs fr Lilbow has a 37.63% chance for the first round of Blizzcon, up from 18.92%.
kr herO vs kr FanTaSy has a 23.43% chance for the first round of Blizzcon, down from 57.91%.
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Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
September 25 2015 19:47 GMT
#1729
On September 26 2015 04:44 HellHound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2015 04:43 ZAiNs wrote:
On September 26 2015 04:36 HellHound wrote:
On September 26 2015 04:34 ZAiNs wrote:
On September 26 2015 04:32 HellHound wrote:
On September 26 2015 04:31 ZAiNs wrote:
On September 26 2015 04:27 Rollora wrote:
On September 26 2015 04:22 HellHound wrote:
On September 26 2015 04:17 ZAiNs wrote:
On September 26 2015 04:14 Rollora wrote:
[quote]
Sorry, it just annoys me, that you can win a game solely by surprising an enemy
It really kills the fun for me. It completely takes it away for me, and many others. Its bad design I think
Starcraft is a great game if you have a fun, macro games against zerg or terran, even toss if you have one that doesn't cheese. But it immidiately gets frustrating, more then a normal loss, when you lose JUST because of BS. I hope you understand my frustration

You're probably only going to lose to a surprise if you take risks. Though at a top-level I admit it's necessary to take risks sometimes. I do think you're blowing things out of proportion, people seem to think PvP is hast he most luck and bullshit yet someone like Zest has an insane PvP winrate vs other Koreans despite PvP's reputation.

Oh lol someone is arguing that protoss isn't a bag of bullshit haha
If you play safe in to cheese it makes it harder to defend earlier timings
If you play safe vs early timings you expose yourself to later timings
Playing safe vs later timings involve skipping safety measures to early timings/cheese to get more econ before they hit.
Balancing those is what zvp is about.
There is no one safe build.

thats the struggle. The constand "ladder - mindgame"

btw why the hell didn't he recall out before everything died?

Well when you watch sOs he's not playing 'ladder mindgames'.

What is your point anyway?
I truly want to know what you are arguing for.


Against the notion that sOs is some guy who just flips coins. Or that flipping coins is an issue in SC2 at all... It's mainly just a way for people to rationlize their ladder losses and minimize their own blame.

Rollora admits and respects sOs skill so nothing to argue about there.
Don't you agree that protoss has more ways to get easy wins at high levels than zerg or terran tho?

Yea but not by a problematic margin. There are a shit ton of subtleties involved in SC2 and that includes all-ins, whenever you lose there are usually a ton of things you could have done better. Deception in itself is a skill, but deception aside, the best all-inners tend to be the players that are known for it -- they're able to win despite their reputation.

Protoss is also maybe the race where it's easiest to lose someone worse than you. A lot of top progamers have lost matches just because they missed a double Medivac drop, or a mine killed too many probes, or because their Zealot wasn't on hold positions. Is losing in those ways bullshit too?

In the end, if you lose the person you should be blaming is yourself usually.

Agree with everything except protoss being the easiest to lose to.
In my expirience (have played every race a fair bit T the least) you can derp in game ending ways with every race in every MU.

True. But I hate it most against Toss :D
I blame myself for misclicks and shit vs Zerg or Terran, but in some cases I don't do that against Toss.
I know this is MY problem.
I will play Toss on NA as you suggested (I currently do somehow by playing LOTV)
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-25 19:50:09
September 25 2015 19:48 GMT
#1730
On September 26 2015 04:47 Die4Ever wrote:
WCS Global Final bracket so far, updated after Hyun vs Reality and sOs vs Solar

Most Likely Matches (compared to before the semifinals)
kr Maru vs kr Rogue has a 100% chance for the first round of Blizzcon, from 100%.
kr PartinG vs kr sOs has a 100% chance for the first round of Blizzcon, up from 50.26%.
kr Rain vs kr Polt has a 100% chance for the first round of Blizzcon, up from 68.38%.
kr Dream vs kr Hydra has a 100% chance for the first round of Blizzcon, from 100%.
kr HyuN vs kr herO has a 76.57% chance for the first round of Blizzcon, up from 42.09%.
kr INnoVation vs kr Zest has a 62.37% chance for the first round of Blizzcon, up from 42.64%.
kr Life vs fr Lilbow has a 62.37% chance for the first round of Blizzcon, up from 31.34%.
kr ByuL vs kr Classic has a 62.37% chance for the first round of Blizzcon, up from 62.36%.
kr INnoVation vs kr Classic has a 37.63% chance for the first round of Blizzcon, down from 37.64%.
kr Life vs kr Zest has a 37.63% chance for the first round of Blizzcon, down from 45.47%.
kr ByuL vs fr Lilbow has a 37.63% chance for the first round of Blizzcon, up from 18.92%.
kr herO vs kr FanTaSy has a 23.43% chance for the first round of Blizzcon, down from 57.91%.


Hurray! sOs has the easiest opponent ... :-(
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
HellHound
Profile Joined September 2014
Bulgaria5962 Posts
September 25 2015 19:49 GMT
#1731
On September 26 2015 04:48 Diabolique wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2015 04:47 Die4Ever wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
WCS Global Final bracket so far, updated after Hyun vs Reality and sOs vs Solar
[image loading]

Most Likely Matches (compared to before the semifinals)
kr Maru vs kr Rogue has a 100% chance for the first round of Blizzcon, from 100%.
kr PartinG vs kr sOs has a 100% chance for the first round of Blizzcon, up from 50.26%.
kr Rain vs kr Polt has a 100% chance for the first round of Blizzcon, up from 68.38%.
kr Dream vs kr Hydra has a 100% chance for the first round of Blizzcon, from 100%.
kr HyuN vs kr herO has a 76.57% chance for the first round of Blizzcon, up from 42.09%.
kr INnoVation vs kr Zest has a 62.37% chance for the first round of Blizzcon, up from 42.64%.
kr Life vs fr Lilbow has a 62.37% chance for the first round of Blizzcon, up from 31.34%.
kr ByuL vs kr Classic has a 62.37% chance for the first round of Blizzcon, up from 62.36%.
kr INnoVation vs kr Classic has a 37.63% chance for the first round of Blizzcon, down from 37.64%.
kr Life vs kr Zest has a 37.63% chance for the first round of Blizzcon, down from 45.47%.
kr ByuL vs fr Lilbow has a 37.63% chance for the first round of Blizzcon, up from 18.92%.
kr herO vs kr FanTaSy has a 23.43% chance for the first round of Blizzcon, down from 57.91%.


Hurray! sOs has the easiest opponent ... :-(
Blizzcon?
Classic GosoO |sOs| Everyone has to give in, let Life win | Zest Is The Best | Roach Cultist | I recognize the might and wisdom of my Otherworldly overlord | Air vs Air 200/200 SC2 is best SC2 | PRIME has been robbed | Fuck prime go ST | ROACH ROACH ROACH
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
September 25 2015 19:49 GMT
#1732
On September 26 2015 04:44 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2015 04:41 Ej_ wrote:
On September 26 2015 04:41 chipmonklord17 wrote:
I still can't believe Dark fucked it up

Dark would have lost to HyuN anyway.


But he only needed top 4 right?

Mhmm
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
Starecat
Profile Joined August 2014
943 Posts
September 25 2015 19:50 GMT
#1733
Lol Life vs Lilbow
:3
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
September 25 2015 19:50 GMT
#1734
On September 26 2015 04:45 HellHound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2015 04:45 fezvez wrote:
On September 26 2015 04:44 Rollora wrote:
On September 26 2015 04:39 stuchiu wrote:
On September 26 2015 04:36 Rollora wrote:
On September 26 2015 04:33 Noonius wrote:
ZVZ FINAL

The struggle was real, now I am crying:

First I was whining around, that protoss bullshit makes the game too versatile and I don't want it to win
Now we have a ZvZ instead of PvZ finals. Hmmm


the important thing is you found a thing to complain about in every instance.

that is what i was pointing too with that post. Something is wrong with me

No, you fit right in the SC2 community. You should go to Reddit too

You should get a special corruptor Icon.

Somehow I can't stop grinning at that comment.
Either it was fun. Or is it because I am drunk?
Why not both? HAAHHAHAHAAA
fezvez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
France3021 Posts
September 25 2015 19:50 GMT
#1735
On September 26 2015 04:49 HellHound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2015 04:48 Diabolique wrote:
On September 26 2015 04:47 Die4Ever wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
WCS Global Final bracket so far, updated after Hyun vs Reality and sOs vs Solar
[image loading]

Most Likely Matches (compared to before the semifinals)
kr Maru vs kr Rogue has a 100% chance for the first round of Blizzcon, from 100%.
kr PartinG vs kr sOs has a 100% chance for the first round of Blizzcon, up from 50.26%.
kr Rain vs kr Polt has a 100% chance for the first round of Blizzcon, up from 68.38%.
kr Dream vs kr Hydra has a 100% chance for the first round of Blizzcon, from 100%.
kr HyuN vs kr herO has a 76.57% chance for the first round of Blizzcon, up from 42.09%.
kr INnoVation vs kr Zest has a 62.37% chance for the first round of Blizzcon, up from 42.64%.
kr Life vs fr Lilbow has a 62.37% chance for the first round of Blizzcon, up from 31.34%.
kr ByuL vs kr Classic has a 62.37% chance for the first round of Blizzcon, up from 62.36%.
kr INnoVation vs kr Classic has a 37.63% chance for the first round of Blizzcon, down from 37.64%.
kr Life vs kr Zest has a 37.63% chance for the first round of Blizzcon, down from 45.47%.
kr ByuL vs fr Lilbow has a 37.63% chance for the first round of Blizzcon, up from 18.92%.
kr herO vs kr FanTaSy has a 23.43% chance for the first round of Blizzcon, down from 57.91%.


Hurray! sOs has the easiest opponent ... :-(
Blizzcon?


Yeah, among the top seeds, PartinG is in the biggest slump
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
September 25 2015 19:50 GMT
#1736
On September 26 2015 04:49 HellHound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2015 04:48 Diabolique wrote:
On September 26 2015 04:47 Die4Ever wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
WCS Global Final bracket so far, updated after Hyun vs Reality and sOs vs Solar
[image loading]

Most Likely Matches (compared to before the semifinals)
kr Maru vs kr Rogue has a 100% chance for the first round of Blizzcon, from 100%.
kr PartinG vs kr sOs has a 100% chance for the first round of Blizzcon, up from 50.26%.
kr Rain vs kr Polt has a 100% chance for the first round of Blizzcon, up from 68.38%.
kr Dream vs kr Hydra has a 100% chance for the first round of Blizzcon, from 100%.
kr HyuN vs kr herO has a 76.57% chance for the first round of Blizzcon, up from 42.09%.
kr INnoVation vs kr Zest has a 62.37% chance for the first round of Blizzcon, up from 42.64%.
kr Life vs fr Lilbow has a 62.37% chance for the first round of Blizzcon, up from 31.34%.
kr ByuL vs kr Classic has a 62.37% chance for the first round of Blizzcon, up from 62.36%.
kr INnoVation vs kr Classic has a 37.63% chance for the first round of Blizzcon, down from 37.64%.
kr Life vs kr Zest has a 37.63% chance for the first round of Blizzcon, down from 45.47%.
kr ByuL vs fr Lilbow has a 37.63% chance for the first round of Blizzcon, up from 18.92%.
kr herO vs kr FanTaSy has a 23.43% chance for the first round of Blizzcon, down from 57.91%.


Hurray! sOs has the easiest opponent ... :-(
Blizzcon?

yes
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
September 25 2015 19:50 GMT
#1737
Parting lost to nightend yesterday, im not very worried.
Moderator
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
September 25 2015 19:50 GMT
#1738
On September 26 2015 04:47 Die4Ever wrote:
WCS Global Final bracket so far, updated after Hyun vs Reality and sOs vs Solar
[image loading]

Most Likely Matches (compared to before the semifinals)
kr Maru vs kr Rogue has a 100% chance for the first round of Blizzcon, from 100%.
kr PartinG vs kr sOs has a 100% chance for the first round of Blizzcon, up from 50.26%.
kr Rain vs kr Polt has a 100% chance for the first round of Blizzcon, up from 68.38%.
kr Dream vs kr Hydra has a 100% chance for the first round of Blizzcon, from 100%.
kr HyuN vs kr herO has a 76.57% chance for the first round of Blizzcon, up from 42.09%.
kr INnoVation vs kr Zest has a 62.37% chance for the first round of Blizzcon, up from 42.64%.
kr Life vs fr Lilbow has a 62.37% chance for the first round of Blizzcon, up from 31.34%.
kr ByuL vs kr Classic has a 62.37% chance for the first round of Blizzcon, up from 62.36%.
kr INnoVation vs kr Classic has a 37.63% chance for the first round of Blizzcon, down from 37.64%.
kr Life vs kr Zest has a 37.63% chance for the first round of Blizzcon, down from 45.47%.
kr ByuL vs fr Lilbow has a 37.63% chance for the first round of Blizzcon, up from 18.92%.
kr herO vs kr FanTaSy has a 23.43% chance for the first round of Blizzcon, down from 57.91%.


if byul wins against inno, lilbow faces him i suppose ?
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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HellHound
Profile Joined September 2014
Bulgaria5962 Posts
September 25 2015 19:50 GMT
#1739
On September 26 2015 04:50 Rollora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2015 04:45 HellHound wrote:
On September 26 2015 04:45 fezvez wrote:
On September 26 2015 04:44 Rollora wrote:
On September 26 2015 04:39 stuchiu wrote:
On September 26 2015 04:36 Rollora wrote:
On September 26 2015 04:33 Noonius wrote:
ZVZ FINAL

The struggle was real, now I am crying:

First I was whining around, that protoss bullshit makes the game too versatile and I don't want it to win
Now we have a ZvZ instead of PvZ finals. Hmmm


the important thing is you found a thing to complain about in every instance.

that is what i was pointing too with that post. Something is wrong with me

No, you fit right in the SC2 community. You should go to Reddit too

You should get a special corruptor Icon.

Somehow I can't stop grinning at that comment.
Either it was fun. Or is it because I am drunk?
Why not both? HAAHHAHAHAAA

I cured your whining so send me some of your booze.
Classic GosoO |sOs| Everyone has to give in, let Life win | Zest Is The Best | Roach Cultist | I recognize the might and wisdom of my Otherworldly overlord | Air vs Air 200/200 SC2 is best SC2 | PRIME has been robbed | Fuck prime go ST | ROACH ROACH ROACH
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
September 25 2015 19:51 GMT
#1740
Life vs Lilbow or Zest hahaha
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
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