On September 26 2015 04:38 jalstar wrote:
Hyun is probably the best BW player at the tourney besides fantasy and Jaedong.
Hyun is probably the best BW player at the tourney besides fantasy and Jaedong.
All three of them are traitors though.
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usopsama
6502 Posts
On September 26 2015 04:38 jalstar wrote: Show nested quote + On September 26 2015 04:37 usopsama wrote: Please win, Solar. I want a Kespa elephant champion. Hyun is probably the best BW player at the tourney besides fantasy and Jaedong. All three of them are traitors though. | ||
Solar424
United States4001 Posts
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fezvez
France3021 Posts
On September 26 2015 04:44 Rollora wrote: Show nested quote + On September 26 2015 04:39 stuchiu wrote: On September 26 2015 04:36 Rollora wrote: On September 26 2015 04:33 Noonius wrote: ZVZ FINAL The struggle was real, now I am crying: First I was whining around, that protoss bullshit makes the game too versatile and I don't want it to win Now we have a ZvZ instead of PvZ finals. Hmmm the important thing is you found a thing to complain about in every instance. that is what i was pointing too with that post. Something is wrong with me No, you fit right in the SC2 community. You should go to Reddit too | ||
shid0x
Korea (South)5014 Posts
On September 26 2015 04:38 HellHound wrote: Show nested quote + On September 26 2015 04:36 shid0x wrote: i'm tore between two dilemas about the final. 1.Fuck zvz finals 2.Solar is awesome Just go GO SOLAR GO CRUSH THAT CHEESY ZERG FUCK GO SOLAR GO It's not that hard zvz final is all hyun's fault after all. yes fuck HyuN GO SOLAR GO GALAXY PHONE PLAYER FUCK APPLE #JESUISFANTASY | ||
HellHound
Bulgaria5962 Posts
On September 26 2015 04:45 fezvez wrote: Show nested quote + On September 26 2015 04:44 Rollora wrote: On September 26 2015 04:39 stuchiu wrote: On September 26 2015 04:36 Rollora wrote: On September 26 2015 04:33 Noonius wrote: ZVZ FINAL The struggle was real, now I am crying: First I was whining around, that protoss bullshit makes the game too versatile and I don't want it to win Now we have a ZvZ instead of PvZ finals. Hmmm the important thing is you found a thing to complain about in every instance. that is what i was pointing too with that post. Something is wrong with me No, you fit right in the SC2 community. You should go to Reddit too You should get a special corruptor Icon. | ||
PhoenixVoid
Canada32737 Posts
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HellHound
Bulgaria5962 Posts
On September 26 2015 04:45 shid0x wrote: Show nested quote + On September 26 2015 04:38 HellHound wrote: On September 26 2015 04:36 shid0x wrote: i'm tore between two dilemas about the final. 1.Fuck zvz finals 2.Solar is awesome Just go GO SOLAR GO CRUSH THAT CHEESY ZERG FUCK GO SOLAR GO It's not that hard zvz final is all hyun's fault after all. yes fuck HyuN GO SOLAR GO GALAXY PHONE PLAYER FUCK APPLE #JESUISFANTASY Fuck me I like your chant better GO SOLAR GO GALAXY PHONE PLAYER FUCK APPLE #JESUSISREALITY | ||
Die4Ever
United States17588 Posts
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Rollora
2450 Posts
On September 26 2015 04:44 HellHound wrote: Show nested quote + On September 26 2015 04:43 ZAiNs wrote: On September 26 2015 04:36 HellHound wrote: On September 26 2015 04:34 ZAiNs wrote: On September 26 2015 04:32 HellHound wrote: On September 26 2015 04:31 ZAiNs wrote: On September 26 2015 04:27 Rollora wrote: On September 26 2015 04:22 HellHound wrote: On September 26 2015 04:17 ZAiNs wrote: On September 26 2015 04:14 Rollora wrote: [quote] Sorry, it just annoys me, that you can win a game solely by surprising an enemy ![]() It really kills the fun for me. It completely takes it away for me, and many others. Its bad design I think Starcraft is a great game if you have a fun, macro games against zerg or terran, even toss if you have one that doesn't cheese. But it immidiately gets frustrating, more then a normal loss, when you lose JUST because of BS. I hope you understand my frustration ![]() You're probably only going to lose to a surprise if you take risks. Though at a top-level I admit it's necessary to take risks sometimes. I do think you're blowing things out of proportion, people seem to think PvP is hast he most luck and bullshit yet someone like Zest has an insane PvP winrate vs other Koreans despite PvP's reputation. Oh lol someone is arguing that protoss isn't a bag of bullshit haha If you play safe in to cheese it makes it harder to defend earlier timings If you play safe vs early timings you expose yourself to later timings Playing safe vs later timings involve skipping safety measures to early timings/cheese to get more econ before they hit. Balancing those is what zvp is about. There is no one safe build. thats the struggle. The constand "ladder - mindgame" btw why the hell didn't he recall out before everything died? Well when you watch sOs he's not playing 'ladder mindgames'. What is your point anyway? I truly want to know what you are arguing for. Against the notion that sOs is some guy who just flips coins. Or that flipping coins is an issue in SC2 at all... It's mainly just a way for people to rationlize their ladder losses and minimize their own blame. Rollora admits and respects sOs skill so nothing to argue about there. Don't you agree that protoss has more ways to get easy wins at high levels than zerg or terran tho? Yea but not by a problematic margin. There are a shit ton of subtleties involved in SC2 and that includes all-ins, whenever you lose there are usually a ton of things you could have done better. Deception in itself is a skill, but deception aside, the best all-inners tend to be the players that are known for it -- they're able to win despite their reputation. Protoss is also maybe the race where it's easiest to lose someone worse than you. A lot of top progamers have lost matches just because they missed a double Medivac drop, or a mine killed too many probes, or because their Zealot wasn't on hold positions. Is losing in those ways bullshit too? In the end, if you lose the person you should be blaming is yourself usually. Agree with everything except protoss being the easiest to lose to. In my expirience (have played every race a fair bit T the least) you can derp in game ending ways with every race in every MU. True. But I hate it most against Toss :D I blame myself for misclicks and shit vs Zerg or Terran, but in some cases I don't do that against Toss. I know this is MY problem. I will play Toss on NA as you suggested (I currently do somehow by playing LOTV) | ||
Diabolique
Czech Republic5118 Posts
On September 26 2015 04:47 Die4Ever wrote: WCS Global Final bracket so far, updated after Hyun vs Reality and sOs vs Solar Most Likely Matches (compared to before the semifinals) ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Hurray! sOs has the easiest opponent ... :-( | ||
HellHound
Bulgaria5962 Posts
On September 26 2015 04:48 Diabolique wrote: Blizzcon?Show nested quote + On September 26 2015 04:47 Die4Ever wrote: + Show Spoiler + WCS Global Final bracket so far, updated after Hyun vs Reality and sOs vs Solar ![]() Most Likely Matches (compared to before the semifinals) ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Hurray! sOs has the easiest opponent ... :-( | ||
Yorkie
United States12612 Posts
On September 26 2015 04:44 chipmonklord17 wrote: Show nested quote + On September 26 2015 04:41 Ej_ wrote: On September 26 2015 04:41 chipmonklord17 wrote: I still can't believe Dark fucked it up Dark would have lost to HyuN anyway. But he only needed top 4 right? Mhmm | ||
Starecat
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Rollora
2450 Posts
On September 26 2015 04:45 HellHound wrote: Show nested quote + On September 26 2015 04:45 fezvez wrote: On September 26 2015 04:44 Rollora wrote: On September 26 2015 04:39 stuchiu wrote: On September 26 2015 04:36 Rollora wrote: On September 26 2015 04:33 Noonius wrote: ZVZ FINAL The struggle was real, now I am crying: First I was whining around, that protoss bullshit makes the game too versatile and I don't want it to win Now we have a ZvZ instead of PvZ finals. Hmmm the important thing is you found a thing to complain about in every instance. that is what i was pointing too with that post. Something is wrong with me No, you fit right in the SC2 community. You should go to Reddit too You should get a special corruptor Icon. Somehow I can't stop grinning at that comment. Either it was fun. Or is it because I am drunk? Why not both? HAAHHAHAHAAA | ||
fezvez
France3021 Posts
On September 26 2015 04:49 HellHound wrote: Show nested quote + Blizzcon?On September 26 2015 04:48 Diabolique wrote: On September 26 2015 04:47 Die4Ever wrote: + Show Spoiler + WCS Global Final bracket so far, updated after Hyun vs Reality and sOs vs Solar ![]() Most Likely Matches (compared to before the semifinals) ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Hurray! sOs has the easiest opponent ... :-( Yeah, among the top seeds, PartinG is in the biggest slump | ||
Diabolique
Czech Republic5118 Posts
On September 26 2015 04:49 HellHound wrote: Show nested quote + Blizzcon?On September 26 2015 04:48 Diabolique wrote: On September 26 2015 04:47 Die4Ever wrote: + Show Spoiler + WCS Global Final bracket so far, updated after Hyun vs Reality and sOs vs Solar ![]() Most Likely Matches (compared to before the semifinals) ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Hurray! sOs has the easiest opponent ... :-( yes | ||
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
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Makro
France16890 Posts
On September 26 2015 04:47 Die4Ever wrote: WCS Global Final bracket so far, updated after Hyun vs Reality and sOs vs Solar ![]() Most Likely Matches (compared to before the semifinals) ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() if byul wins against inno, lilbow faces him i suppose ? | ||
HellHound
Bulgaria5962 Posts
On September 26 2015 04:50 Rollora wrote: Show nested quote + On September 26 2015 04:45 HellHound wrote: On September 26 2015 04:45 fezvez wrote: On September 26 2015 04:44 Rollora wrote: On September 26 2015 04:39 stuchiu wrote: On September 26 2015 04:36 Rollora wrote: On September 26 2015 04:33 Noonius wrote: ZVZ FINAL The struggle was real, now I am crying: First I was whining around, that protoss bullshit makes the game too versatile and I don't want it to win Now we have a ZvZ instead of PvZ finals. Hmmm the important thing is you found a thing to complain about in every instance. that is what i was pointing too with that post. Something is wrong with me No, you fit right in the SC2 community. You should go to Reddit too You should get a special corruptor Icon. Somehow I can't stop grinning at that comment. Either it was fun. Or is it because I am drunk? Why not both? HAAHHAHAHAAA I cured your whining so send me some of your booze. | ||
Yorkie
United States12612 Posts
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