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xongnox
Profile Joined November 2011
540 Posts
September 09 2015 19:21 GMT
#561
why in hell Polt had not veto this map ? tt
loft
Profile Joined July 2009
United States344 Posts
September 09 2015 19:21 GMT
#562
Elazer, damn! Polt looks so resilient
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
September 09 2015 19:21 GMT
#563
On September 10 2015 04:20 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2015 04:19 brickrd wrote:
On September 10 2015 04:18 Yorkie wrote:
This game is a mess, Polt is scrambling to survive, he has way fewer workers...he has Elazer right where he wants him

i do honestly think he can win


...

if the planetary had stabilized that is a winnable position for terran
TL+ Member
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14462 Posts
September 09 2015 19:22 GMT
#564
On September 10 2015 04:20 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2015 04:10 OtherWorld wrote:
On September 10 2015 04:06 stuchiu wrote:
On September 10 2015 04:03 OtherWorld wrote:
On September 10 2015 04:02 stuchiu wrote:
On September 10 2015 04:00 Ej_ wrote:
On September 10 2015 03:59 OtherWorld wrote:
On September 10 2015 03:54 Ej_ wrote:
On September 10 2015 03:54 OtherWorld wrote:
On September 10 2015 03:53 Ej_ wrote:
[quote]
INnoVation stayed in Korea, you need to improve on your runner trivia

Nah I know I failed, just too tired to think straight d:

yeah yeah find more excuses for the washed up Koreans

Well I mean
ByuL was a runner once and is now GSL and SSL finalist
MMA was a runner once and is BlizzCon runner-up and GSL semifinalist
Bomber was a runner once and has shown solid play, although nothing extraordinary. Same with jjakji, with weaker play, but like many true KR players.
Polt beat the greatest PvT players during the Protoss golden era
A team made with many former runners beat KeSPA's mighty JinAir this round in PL round robin
ForGG, Stardust and San are failures I'll give you that

honestly I was just kidding at first, but Yorkie got pretty rustled

and we both know that ByuL sucked before CJ picked him up


Given what I've seen of CJ, I'm just gonna go ahead and say that CJ had little impact on his skill overall. Send him to any other Kespa team and he's just as good.

And what have you seen of CJ?


They have all maintained there respective levels of skill, except SkyHigh who went up for a little bit.

Hydra improved after leaving.
Gumiho improved after leaving.
They basically chased effort out of the scene.

Compared to say what KT, JA, SKT, KHAN they havent really shown any kind of skill in increasing their players overall skills.

Rain got better results upon leaving SKT. PartinG too. MyunGsik too. I can't think of players that left Khan or JAGW recently. Hydra made 17th-24th of Code S twice while on CJ. What makes you tell he would do it now? I'll give you GuMiho, he should have been used by CJ.


I think Rain's skill went down, but his mindset went up.

Paring went up, but in his own words, "I'm a wild ESF animal. I don't belong in Kespa zoo."

They improved Classic (though that could have just been STX), Dream, Dark, soO and revived Inno.

JA improved Rogue, Cure, Trap.

Khan improved Bravo, revived Dear, improved Solar.

KT improved Stats and TY.

Every Kespa team can keep a players skill up within a certain range, but every other Kespa team beyond CJ has improved the overall skill in players in at least 2 players or more. In CJ's case the only player that impoved was ByuL, and he was on the up and up before he joined CJ.

Basically all I'm saying is CJ wasnt integral to ByuL's success. So long as he joined a Kespa team, I think he would have always been around this skill level.

Let's see if JA is going to improve JD next year.
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
September 09 2015 19:22 GMT
#565
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 09 2015 19:22 GMT
#566
On September 10 2015 04:18 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2015 04:16 Ej_ wrote:
On September 10 2015 04:16 brickrd wrote:
THE ACCIDENTAL SWARM HOST IS BACK

the sign of the best of Zergs:
Nerchio, Life and now Elazer

Time to make Life a Polish citizen?

as soon as he leaves KT!
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
September 09 2015 19:22 GMT
#567
On September 10 2015 04:20 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2015 04:10 OtherWorld wrote:
On September 10 2015 04:06 stuchiu wrote:
On September 10 2015 04:03 OtherWorld wrote:
On September 10 2015 04:02 stuchiu wrote:
On September 10 2015 04:00 Ej_ wrote:
On September 10 2015 03:59 OtherWorld wrote:
On September 10 2015 03:54 Ej_ wrote:
On September 10 2015 03:54 OtherWorld wrote:
On September 10 2015 03:53 Ej_ wrote:
[quote]
INnoVation stayed in Korea, you need to improve on your runner trivia

Nah I know I failed, just too tired to think straight d:

yeah yeah find more excuses for the washed up Koreans

Well I mean
ByuL was a runner once and is now GSL and SSL finalist
MMA was a runner once and is BlizzCon runner-up and GSL semifinalist
Bomber was a runner once and has shown solid play, although nothing extraordinary. Same with jjakji, with weaker play, but like many true KR players.
Polt beat the greatest PvT players during the Protoss golden era
A team made with many former runners beat KeSPA's mighty JinAir this round in PL round robin
ForGG, Stardust and San are failures I'll give you that

honestly I was just kidding at first, but Yorkie got pretty rustled

and we both know that ByuL sucked before CJ picked him up


Given what I've seen of CJ, I'm just gonna go ahead and say that CJ had little impact on his skill overall. Send him to any other Kespa team and he's just as good.

And what have you seen of CJ?


They have all maintained there respective levels of skill, except SkyHigh who went up for a little bit.

Hydra improved after leaving.
Gumiho improved after leaving.
They basically chased effort out of the scene.

Compared to say what KT, JA, SKT, KHAN they havent really shown any kind of skill in increasing their players overall skills.

Rain got better results upon leaving SKT. PartinG too. MyunGsik too. I can't think of players that left Khan or JAGW recently. Hydra made 17th-24th of Code S twice while on CJ. What makes you tell he would do it now? I'll give you GuMiho, he should have been used by CJ.


I think Rain's skill went down, but his mindset went up.

Paring went up, but in his own words, "I'm a wild ESF animal. I don't belong in Kespa zoo."

They improved Classic (though that could have just been STX), Dream, Dark, soO and revived Inno.

JA improved Rogue, Cure, Trap.

Khan improved Bravo, revived Dear, improved Solar.

KT improved Stats and TY.

Every Kespa team can keep a players skill up within a certain range, but every other Kespa team beyond CJ has improved the overall skill in players in at least 2 players or more. In CJ's case the only player that impoved was ByuL, and he was on the up and up before he joined CJ.

Basically all I'm saying is CJ wasnt integral to ByuL's success. So long as he joined a Kespa team, I think he would have always been around this skill level.

JA murdered Coca. Khan murdered jangbi. KT murdered TY. While all those teams helped players improve their game, they certainly fuck them outside it haha. (Not arguing against your point, just making one of my own)
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
loft
Profile Joined July 2009
United States344 Posts
September 09 2015 19:22 GMT
#568
On September 10 2015 04:21 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2015 04:20 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On September 10 2015 04:19 brickrd wrote:
On September 10 2015 04:18 Yorkie wrote:
This game is a mess, Polt is scrambling to survive, he has way fewer workers...he has Elazer right where he wants him

i do honestly think he can win


...

if the planetary had stabilized that is a winnable position for terran


Maybe, Polt wasn't even mining gas. It was straight marines left.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-09 19:23:18
September 09 2015 19:23 GMT
#569
On September 10 2015 04:22 Aeromi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2015 04:20 stuchiu wrote:
On September 10 2015 04:10 OtherWorld wrote:
On September 10 2015 04:06 stuchiu wrote:
On September 10 2015 04:03 OtherWorld wrote:
On September 10 2015 04:02 stuchiu wrote:
On September 10 2015 04:00 Ej_ wrote:
On September 10 2015 03:59 OtherWorld wrote:
On September 10 2015 03:54 Ej_ wrote:
On September 10 2015 03:54 OtherWorld wrote:
[quote]
Nah I know I failed, just too tired to think straight d:

yeah yeah find more excuses for the washed up Koreans

Well I mean
ByuL was a runner once and is now GSL and SSL finalist
MMA was a runner once and is BlizzCon runner-up and GSL semifinalist
Bomber was a runner once and has shown solid play, although nothing extraordinary. Same with jjakji, with weaker play, but like many true KR players.
Polt beat the greatest PvT players during the Protoss golden era
A team made with many former runners beat KeSPA's mighty JinAir this round in PL round robin
ForGG, Stardust and San are failures I'll give you that

honestly I was just kidding at first, but Yorkie got pretty rustled

and we both know that ByuL sucked before CJ picked him up


Given what I've seen of CJ, I'm just gonna go ahead and say that CJ had little impact on his skill overall. Send him to any other Kespa team and he's just as good.

And what have you seen of CJ?


They have all maintained there respective levels of skill, except SkyHigh who went up for a little bit.

Hydra improved after leaving.
Gumiho improved after leaving.
They basically chased effort out of the scene.

Compared to say what KT, JA, SKT, KHAN they havent really shown any kind of skill in increasing their players overall skills.

Rain got better results upon leaving SKT. PartinG too. MyunGsik too. I can't think of players that left Khan or JAGW recently. Hydra made 17th-24th of Code S twice while on CJ. What makes you tell he would do it now? I'll give you GuMiho, he should have been used by CJ.


I think Rain's skill went down, but his mindset went up.

Paring went up, but in his own words, "I'm a wild ESF animal. I don't belong in Kespa zoo."

They improved Classic (though that could have just been STX), Dream, Dark, soO and revived Inno.

JA improved Rogue, Cure, Trap.

Khan improved Bravo, revived Dear, improved Solar.

KT improved Stats and TY.

Every Kespa team can keep a players skill up within a certain range, but every other Kespa team beyond CJ has improved the overall skill in players in at least 2 players or more. In CJ's case the only player that impoved was ByuL, and he was on the up and up before he joined CJ.

Basically all I'm saying is CJ wasnt integral to ByuL's success. So long as he joined a Kespa team, I think he would have always been around this skill level.

Let's see if JA is going to improve JD next year.

wait does his contract run out or are you just teasing me?

*fan girl squeals*
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
September 09 2015 19:23 GMT
#570
Now please, Polt, in the wise words of Day9: Go fucking kill him. You were so far ahead in army/upgrades..
OsaX Nymloth
Profile Joined March 2013
Poland3244 Posts
September 09 2015 19:23 GMT
#571
On September 10 2015 04:20 Noonius wrote:
disgusting

terran is, indeed
+ Show Spoiler +
Twitter: @osaxnymloth
Psychonian
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2322 Posts
September 09 2015 19:23 GMT
#572
    (1655) Elazer  1-1  Polt (1973)      
-----------------------------------------
36.30% 2-1 1-2 63.70%
-----------------------------------------
36.30% 63.70%

Median outcome: Elazer 1-2 Polt

Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.
Trans Rights
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
September 09 2015 19:23 GMT
#573
On September 10 2015 04:22 Aeromi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2015 04:20 stuchiu wrote:
On September 10 2015 04:10 OtherWorld wrote:
On September 10 2015 04:06 stuchiu wrote:
On September 10 2015 04:03 OtherWorld wrote:
On September 10 2015 04:02 stuchiu wrote:
On September 10 2015 04:00 Ej_ wrote:
On September 10 2015 03:59 OtherWorld wrote:
On September 10 2015 03:54 Ej_ wrote:
On September 10 2015 03:54 OtherWorld wrote:
[quote]
Nah I know I failed, just too tired to think straight d:

yeah yeah find more excuses for the washed up Koreans

Well I mean
ByuL was a runner once and is now GSL and SSL finalist
MMA was a runner once and is BlizzCon runner-up and GSL semifinalist
Bomber was a runner once and has shown solid play, although nothing extraordinary. Same with jjakji, with weaker play, but like many true KR players.
Polt beat the greatest PvT players during the Protoss golden era
A team made with many former runners beat KeSPA's mighty JinAir this round in PL round robin
ForGG, Stardust and San are failures I'll give you that

honestly I was just kidding at first, but Yorkie got pretty rustled

and we both know that ByuL sucked before CJ picked him up


Given what I've seen of CJ, I'm just gonna go ahead and say that CJ had little impact on his skill overall. Send him to any other Kespa team and he's just as good.

And what have you seen of CJ?


They have all maintained there respective levels of skill, except SkyHigh who went up for a little bit.

Hydra improved after leaving.
Gumiho improved after leaving.
They basically chased effort out of the scene.

Compared to say what KT, JA, SKT, KHAN they havent really shown any kind of skill in increasing their players overall skills.

Rain got better results upon leaving SKT. PartinG too. MyunGsik too. I can't think of players that left Khan or JAGW recently. Hydra made 17th-24th of Code S twice while on CJ. What makes you tell he would do it now? I'll give you GuMiho, he should have been used by CJ.


I think Rain's skill went down, but his mindset went up.

Paring went up, but in his own words, "I'm a wild ESF animal. I don't belong in Kespa zoo."

They improved Classic (though that could have just been STX), Dream, Dark, soO and revived Inno.

JA improved Rogue, Cure, Trap.

Khan improved Bravo, revived Dear, improved Solar.

KT improved Stats and TY.

Every Kespa team can keep a players skill up within a certain range, but every other Kespa team beyond CJ has improved the overall skill in players in at least 2 players or more. In CJ's case the only player that impoved was ByuL, and he was on the up and up before he joined CJ.

Basically all I'm saying is CJ wasnt integral to ByuL's success. So long as he joined a Kespa team, I think he would have always been around this skill level.

Let's see if JA is going to improve JD next year.

That was supposed to be this year lmao idk if it's gonna happen now
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
September 09 2015 19:23 GMT
#574
On September 10 2015 04:21 MiniFotToss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2015 04:20 stuchiu wrote:
On September 10 2015 04:10 OtherWorld wrote:
On September 10 2015 04:06 stuchiu wrote:
On September 10 2015 04:03 OtherWorld wrote:
On September 10 2015 04:02 stuchiu wrote:
On September 10 2015 04:00 Ej_ wrote:
On September 10 2015 03:59 OtherWorld wrote:
On September 10 2015 03:54 Ej_ wrote:
On September 10 2015 03:54 OtherWorld wrote:
[quote]
Nah I know I failed, just too tired to think straight d:

yeah yeah find more excuses for the washed up Koreans

Well I mean
ByuL was a runner once and is now GSL and SSL finalist
MMA was a runner once and is BlizzCon runner-up and GSL semifinalist
Bomber was a runner once and has shown solid play, although nothing extraordinary. Same with jjakji, with weaker play, but like many true KR players.
Polt beat the greatest PvT players during the Protoss golden era
A team made with many former runners beat KeSPA's mighty JinAir this round in PL round robin
ForGG, Stardust and San are failures I'll give you that

honestly I was just kidding at first, but Yorkie got pretty rustled

and we both know that ByuL sucked before CJ picked him up


Given what I've seen of CJ, I'm just gonna go ahead and say that CJ had little impact on his skill overall. Send him to any other Kespa team and he's just as good.

And what have you seen of CJ?


They have all maintained there respective levels of skill, except SkyHigh who went up for a little bit.

Hydra improved after leaving.
Gumiho improved after leaving.
They basically chased effort out of the scene.

Compared to say what KT, JA, SKT, KHAN they havent really shown any kind of skill in increasing their players overall skills.

Rain got better results upon leaving SKT. PartinG too. MyunGsik too. I can't think of players that left Khan or JAGW recently. Hydra made 17th-24th of Code S twice while on CJ. What makes you tell he would do it now? I'll give you GuMiho, he should have been used by CJ.


I think Rain's skill went down, but his mindset went up.

Paring went up, but in his own words, "I'm a wild ESF animal. I don't belong in Kespa zoo."

They improved Classic (though that could have just been STX), Dream, Dark, soO and revived Inno.

JA improved Rogue, Cure, Trap.

Khan improved Bravo, revived Dear, improved Solar.

KT improved Stats and TY.

Every Kespa team can keep a players skill up within a certain range, but every other Kespa team beyond CJ has improved the overall skill in players in at least 2 players or more. In CJ's case the only player that impoved was ByuL, and he was on the up and up before he joined CJ.

Basically all I'm saying is CJ wasnt integral to ByuL's success. So long as he joined a Kespa team, I think he would have always been around this skill level.

Rain still won GSL though, that's not skill went down


No thats his result, not his skill. His skill went down, his result went up.
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NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
September 09 2015 19:24 GMT
#575
Much better map this time
SuperNova - 2015 | SKT1 fan for years | Dear, FlaSh, PartinG, Soulkey, Naniwa
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14462 Posts
September 09 2015 19:24 GMT
#576
On September 10 2015 04:23 Yorkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2015 04:22 Aeromi wrote:
On September 10 2015 04:20 stuchiu wrote:
On September 10 2015 04:10 OtherWorld wrote:
On September 10 2015 04:06 stuchiu wrote:
On September 10 2015 04:03 OtherWorld wrote:
On September 10 2015 04:02 stuchiu wrote:
On September 10 2015 04:00 Ej_ wrote:
On September 10 2015 03:59 OtherWorld wrote:
On September 10 2015 03:54 Ej_ wrote:
[quote]
yeah yeah find more excuses for the washed up Koreans

Well I mean
ByuL was a runner once and is now GSL and SSL finalist
MMA was a runner once and is BlizzCon runner-up and GSL semifinalist
Bomber was a runner once and has shown solid play, although nothing extraordinary. Same with jjakji, with weaker play, but like many true KR players.
Polt beat the greatest PvT players during the Protoss golden era
A team made with many former runners beat KeSPA's mighty JinAir this round in PL round robin
ForGG, Stardust and San are failures I'll give you that

honestly I was just kidding at first, but Yorkie got pretty rustled

and we both know that ByuL sucked before CJ picked him up


Given what I've seen of CJ, I'm just gonna go ahead and say that CJ had little impact on his skill overall. Send him to any other Kespa team and he's just as good.

And what have you seen of CJ?


They have all maintained there respective levels of skill, except SkyHigh who went up for a little bit.

Hydra improved after leaving.
Gumiho improved after leaving.
They basically chased effort out of the scene.

Compared to say what KT, JA, SKT, KHAN they havent really shown any kind of skill in increasing their players overall skills.

Rain got better results upon leaving SKT. PartinG too. MyunGsik too. I can't think of players that left Khan or JAGW recently. Hydra made 17th-24th of Code S twice while on CJ. What makes you tell he would do it now? I'll give you GuMiho, he should have been used by CJ.


I think Rain's skill went down, but his mindset went up.

Paring went up, but in his own words, "I'm a wild ESF animal. I don't belong in Kespa zoo."

They improved Classic (though that could have just been STX), Dream, Dark, soO and revived Inno.

JA improved Rogue, Cure, Trap.

Khan improved Bravo, revived Dear, improved Solar.

KT improved Stats and TY.

Every Kespa team can keep a players skill up within a certain range, but every other Kespa team beyond CJ has improved the overall skill in players in at least 2 players or more. In CJ's case the only player that impoved was ByuL, and he was on the up and up before he joined CJ.

Basically all I'm saying is CJ wasnt integral to ByuL's success. So long as he joined a Kespa team, I think he would have always been around this skill level.

Let's see if JA is going to improve JD next year.

That was supposed to be this year lmao idk if it's gonna happen now

I don't think anyone knew that Amazon was going to buy EG...
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Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
September 09 2015 19:24 GMT
#577
On September 10 2015 04:23 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2015 04:22 Aeromi wrote:
On September 10 2015 04:20 stuchiu wrote:
On September 10 2015 04:10 OtherWorld wrote:
On September 10 2015 04:06 stuchiu wrote:
On September 10 2015 04:03 OtherWorld wrote:
On September 10 2015 04:02 stuchiu wrote:
On September 10 2015 04:00 Ej_ wrote:
On September 10 2015 03:59 OtherWorld wrote:
On September 10 2015 03:54 Ej_ wrote:
[quote]
yeah yeah find more excuses for the washed up Koreans

Well I mean
ByuL was a runner once and is now GSL and SSL finalist
MMA was a runner once and is BlizzCon runner-up and GSL semifinalist
Bomber was a runner once and has shown solid play, although nothing extraordinary. Same with jjakji, with weaker play, but like many true KR players.
Polt beat the greatest PvT players during the Protoss golden era
A team made with many former runners beat KeSPA's mighty JinAir this round in PL round robin
ForGG, Stardust and San are failures I'll give you that

honestly I was just kidding at first, but Yorkie got pretty rustled

and we both know that ByuL sucked before CJ picked him up


Given what I've seen of CJ, I'm just gonna go ahead and say that CJ had little impact on his skill overall. Send him to any other Kespa team and he's just as good.

And what have you seen of CJ?


They have all maintained there respective levels of skill, except SkyHigh who went up for a little bit.

Hydra improved after leaving.
Gumiho improved after leaving.
They basically chased effort out of the scene.

Compared to say what KT, JA, SKT, KHAN they havent really shown any kind of skill in increasing their players overall skills.

Rain got better results upon leaving SKT. PartinG too. MyunGsik too. I can't think of players that left Khan or JAGW recently. Hydra made 17th-24th of Code S twice while on CJ. What makes you tell he would do it now? I'll give you GuMiho, he should have been used by CJ.


I think Rain's skill went down, but his mindset went up.

Paring went up, but in his own words, "I'm a wild ESF animal. I don't belong in Kespa zoo."

They improved Classic (though that could have just been STX), Dream, Dark, soO and revived Inno.

JA improved Rogue, Cure, Trap.

Khan improved Bravo, revived Dear, improved Solar.

KT improved Stats and TY.

Every Kespa team can keep a players skill up within a certain range, but every other Kespa team beyond CJ has improved the overall skill in players in at least 2 players or more. In CJ's case the only player that impoved was ByuL, and he was on the up and up before he joined CJ.

Basically all I'm saying is CJ wasnt integral to ByuL's success. So long as he joined a Kespa team, I think he would have always been around this skill level.

Let's see if JA is going to improve JD next year.

wait does his contract run out or are you just teasing me?

*fan girl squeals*

His contract ended at the end of 2014 too and it was rumored he was going to Jin Air but then that fell through for whatever reason (likely JD remembered how cool money was)
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brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
September 09 2015 19:24 GMT
#578
On September 10 2015 04:22 loft wrote:
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On September 10 2015 04:21 brickrd wrote:
On September 10 2015 04:20 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On September 10 2015 04:19 brickrd wrote:
On September 10 2015 04:18 Yorkie wrote:
This game is a mess, Polt is scrambling to survive, he has way fewer workers...he has Elazer right where he wants him

i do honestly think he can win


...

if the planetary had stabilized that is a winnable position for terran


Maybe, Polt wasn't even mining gas. It was straight marines left.

not even by any means but possible :p
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
September 09 2015 19:24 GMT
#579
On September 10 2015 04:21 MiniFotToss wrote:
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On September 10 2015 04:20 stuchiu wrote:
On September 10 2015 04:10 OtherWorld wrote:
On September 10 2015 04:06 stuchiu wrote:
On September 10 2015 04:03 OtherWorld wrote:
On September 10 2015 04:02 stuchiu wrote:
On September 10 2015 04:00 Ej_ wrote:
On September 10 2015 03:59 OtherWorld wrote:
On September 10 2015 03:54 Ej_ wrote:
On September 10 2015 03:54 OtherWorld wrote:
[quote]
Nah I know I failed, just too tired to think straight d:

yeah yeah find more excuses for the washed up Koreans

Well I mean
ByuL was a runner once and is now GSL and SSL finalist
MMA was a runner once and is BlizzCon runner-up and GSL semifinalist
Bomber was a runner once and has shown solid play, although nothing extraordinary. Same with jjakji, with weaker play, but like many true KR players.
Polt beat the greatest PvT players during the Protoss golden era
A team made with many former runners beat KeSPA's mighty JinAir this round in PL round robin
ForGG, Stardust and San are failures I'll give you that

honestly I was just kidding at first, but Yorkie got pretty rustled

and we both know that ByuL sucked before CJ picked him up


Given what I've seen of CJ, I'm just gonna go ahead and say that CJ had little impact on his skill overall. Send him to any other Kespa team and he's just as good.

And what have you seen of CJ?


They have all maintained there respective levels of skill, except SkyHigh who went up for a little bit.

Hydra improved after leaving.
Gumiho improved after leaving.
They basically chased effort out of the scene.

Compared to say what KT, JA, SKT, KHAN they havent really shown any kind of skill in increasing their players overall skills.

Rain got better results upon leaving SKT. PartinG too. MyunGsik too. I can't think of players that left Khan or JAGW recently. Hydra made 17th-24th of Code S twice while on CJ. What makes you tell he would do it now? I'll give you GuMiho, he should have been used by CJ.


I think Rain's skill went down, but his mindset went up.

Paring went up, but in his own words, "I'm a wild ESF animal. I don't belong in Kespa zoo."

They improved Classic (though that could have just been STX), Dream, Dark, soO and revived Inno.

JA improved Rogue, Cure, Trap.

Khan improved Bravo, revived Dear, improved Solar.

KT improved Stats and TY.

Every Kespa team can keep a players skill up within a certain range, but every other Kespa team beyond CJ has improved the overall skill in players in at least 2 players or more. In CJ's case the only player that impoved was ByuL, and he was on the up and up before he joined CJ.

Basically all I'm saying is CJ wasnt integral to ByuL's success. So long as he joined a Kespa team, I think he would have always been around this skill level.

Rain still won GSL though, that's not skill went down


That's the thing, he was a better player in terms of pure skill when he was on SKT. But since then he's learned that skill isn't all.
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Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
September 09 2015 19:25 GMT
#580
If Elazer wins, Poland Top 3 EU?
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