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NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
September 09 2015 19:18 GMT
#541
On September 10 2015 04:16 Noonius wrote:
this map is so broken

Agreed. This map tries to be Heartbreak Ridge
SuperNova - 2015 | SKT1 fan for years | Dear, FlaSh, PartinG, Soulkey, Naniwa
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
September 09 2015 19:18 GMT
#542
i love how koreans mule bases that are being heavily attacked
TL+ Member
MiniFotToss
Profile Joined December 2013
China2430 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-09 19:20:06
September 09 2015 19:18 GMT
#543
On September 10 2015 04:15 jalstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2015 04:12 MiniFotToss wrote:
On September 10 2015 04:06 stuchiu wrote:
On September 10 2015 04:03 OtherWorld wrote:
On September 10 2015 04:02 stuchiu wrote:
On September 10 2015 04:00 Ej_ wrote:
On September 10 2015 03:59 OtherWorld wrote:
On September 10 2015 03:54 Ej_ wrote:
On September 10 2015 03:54 OtherWorld wrote:
On September 10 2015 03:53 Ej_ wrote:
[quote]
INnoVation stayed in Korea, you need to improve on your runner trivia

Nah I know I failed, just too tired to think straight d:

yeah yeah find more excuses for the washed up Koreans

Well I mean
ByuL was a runner once and is now GSL and SSL finalist
MMA was a runner once and is BlizzCon runner-up and GSL semifinalist
Bomber was a runner once and has shown solid play, although nothing extraordinary. Same with jjakji, with weaker play, but like many true KR players.
Polt beat the greatest PvT players during the Protoss golden era
A team made with many former runners beat KeSPA's mighty JinAir this round in PL round robin
ForGG, Stardust and San are failures I'll give you that

honestly I was just kidding at first, but Yorkie got pretty rustled

and we both know that ByuL sucked before CJ picked him up


Given what I've seen of CJ, I'm just gonna go ahead and say that CJ had little impact on his skill overall. Send him to any other Kespa team and he's just as good.

And what have you seen of CJ?


They have all maintained there respective levels of skill, except SkyHigh who went up for a little bit.

Hydra improved after leaving.
Gumiho improved after leaving.
They basically chased effort out of the scene.

Compared to say what KT, JA, SKT, KHAN they havent really shown any kind of skill in increasing their players overall skills.


Fun fact:
Out of the 2 protoss's that left SKT from the 3 big Protoss's in SKT (Rain, PartinG and Classic)
Rain and PartinG won 2+ tournaments in half a year, since their (highest) peak in 2012 and has finally reached the GSL finals while being on a foreign team AFTER LEAVING SKT, say much about skill? (ALSO, Rain might still reach SSL finals)


SC2 Protoss is somewhat mirroring BW Protoss in that 6 are better than everyone else. (Rain, Parting, herO, Classic, sOs, Zest in SC2) But unlike BW the top 6 in SC2 have similar results, where in BW Bisu and Stork stood above the rest.

well, this year Classic and Rain has stood out more, based on the prestige of their tournament wins (Rain --> GSL, Classic--> SSL)? but I really don't wanna go there I think herO being number 1 seed and Zest winning IEM WC and PartinG having God-like vT and vZ, sOs kind of fell off a bit but still strong. They're all still strong.
Also, 6 Protoss dragons of SC2
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
September 09 2015 19:18 GMT
#544
This game is a mess, Polt is scrambling to survive, he has way fewer workers...he has Elazer right where he wants him
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
September 09 2015 19:19 GMT
#545
MutMut Hype
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
September 09 2015 19:19 GMT
#546
they're even in army supply and polt has a better army and better upgrades
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
September 09 2015 19:19 GMT
#547
On September 10 2015 04:18 Yorkie wrote:
This game is a mess, Polt is scrambling to survive, he has way fewer workers...he has Elazer right where he wants him

i do honestly think he can win
TL+ Member
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 09 2015 19:19 GMT
#548
On September 10 2015 04:18 brickrd wrote:
i love how koreans mule bases that are being heavily attacked

can't miss these macro cycles
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
September 09 2015 19:19 GMT
#549
Poll: Recommend Winners Match Game 2?

★- Do not see this game no matter what (2)
 
11%

★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
 
0%

★★★- Good game (7)
 
39%

★★★★- Highly recommended game (8)
 
44%

★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
 
6%

18 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Winners Match Game 2?

(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season

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Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
September 09 2015 19:20 GMT
#550
disgusting
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
September 09 2015 19:20 GMT
#551
On September 10 2015 04:10 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2015 04:06 stuchiu wrote:
On September 10 2015 04:03 OtherWorld wrote:
On September 10 2015 04:02 stuchiu wrote:
On September 10 2015 04:00 Ej_ wrote:
On September 10 2015 03:59 OtherWorld wrote:
On September 10 2015 03:54 Ej_ wrote:
On September 10 2015 03:54 OtherWorld wrote:
On September 10 2015 03:53 Ej_ wrote:
On September 10 2015 03:52 OtherWorld wrote:
[quote]
Yeah I heard INnoVation is a good caster these days

INnoVation stayed in Korea, you need to improve on your runner trivia

Nah I know I failed, just too tired to think straight d:

yeah yeah find more excuses for the washed up Koreans

Well I mean
ByuL was a runner once and is now GSL and SSL finalist
MMA was a runner once and is BlizzCon runner-up and GSL semifinalist
Bomber was a runner once and has shown solid play, although nothing extraordinary. Same with jjakji, with weaker play, but like many true KR players.
Polt beat the greatest PvT players during the Protoss golden era
A team made with many former runners beat KeSPA's mighty JinAir this round in PL round robin
ForGG, Stardust and San are failures I'll give you that

honestly I was just kidding at first, but Yorkie got pretty rustled

and we both know that ByuL sucked before CJ picked him up


Given what I've seen of CJ, I'm just gonna go ahead and say that CJ had little impact on his skill overall. Send him to any other Kespa team and he's just as good.

And what have you seen of CJ?


They have all maintained there respective levels of skill, except SkyHigh who went up for a little bit.

Hydra improved after leaving.
Gumiho improved after leaving.
They basically chased effort out of the scene.

Compared to say what KT, JA, SKT, KHAN they havent really shown any kind of skill in increasing their players overall skills.

Rain got better results upon leaving SKT. PartinG too. MyunGsik too. I can't think of players that left Khan or JAGW recently. Hydra made 17th-24th of Code S twice while on CJ. What makes you tell he would do it now? I'll give you GuMiho, he should have been used by CJ.


I think Rain's skill went down, but his mindset went up.

Paring went up, but in his own words, "I'm a wild ESF animal. I don't belong in Kespa zoo."

They improved Classic (though that could have just been STX), Dream, Dark, soO and revived Inno.

JA improved Rogue, Cure, Trap.

Khan improved Bravo, revived Dear, improved Solar.

KT improved Stats and TY.

Every Kespa team can keep a players skill up within a certain range, but every other Kespa team beyond CJ has improved the overall skill in players in at least 2 players or more. In CJ's case the only player that impoved was ByuL, and he was on the up and up before he joined CJ.

Basically all I'm saying is CJ wasnt integral to ByuL's success. So long as he joined a Kespa team, I think he would have always been around this skill level.
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brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
September 09 2015 19:20 GMT
#552
On September 10 2015 04:19 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2015 04:18 Yorkie wrote:
This game is a mess, Polt is scrambling to survive, he has way fewer workers...he has Elazer right where he wants him

i do honestly think he can win

lol the timing
TL+ Member
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
September 09 2015 19:20 GMT
#553
THE REPLACEMENTTTT
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17729 Posts
September 09 2015 19:20 GMT
#554
aw man I wanted to see the widow mine trap in the mineral line go off
"Expert" mods4ever.com
Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
September 09 2015 19:20 GMT
#555
Haha Elazer in disbelief
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
September 09 2015 19:20 GMT
#556
Hitman would've already advanced.

:D

Any good games so far?
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
September 09 2015 19:20 GMT
#557
On September 10 2015 04:19 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2015 04:18 Yorkie wrote:
This game is a mess, Polt is scrambling to survive, he has way fewer workers...he has Elazer right where he wants him

i do honestly think he can win


...
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
September 09 2015 19:20 GMT
#558
On September 10 2015 04:19 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2015 04:18 Yorkie wrote:
This game is a mess, Polt is scrambling to survive, he has way fewer workers...he has Elazer right where he wants him

i do honestly think he can win

Damn really thought we were gonna see a classic full foreigner into Polt improbable comeback
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
MiniFotToss
Profile Joined December 2013
China2430 Posts
September 09 2015 19:21 GMT
#559
On September 10 2015 04:20 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2015 04:10 OtherWorld wrote:
On September 10 2015 04:06 stuchiu wrote:
On September 10 2015 04:03 OtherWorld wrote:
On September 10 2015 04:02 stuchiu wrote:
On September 10 2015 04:00 Ej_ wrote:
On September 10 2015 03:59 OtherWorld wrote:
On September 10 2015 03:54 Ej_ wrote:
On September 10 2015 03:54 OtherWorld wrote:
On September 10 2015 03:53 Ej_ wrote:
[quote]
INnoVation stayed in Korea, you need to improve on your runner trivia

Nah I know I failed, just too tired to think straight d:

yeah yeah find more excuses for the washed up Koreans

Well I mean
ByuL was a runner once and is now GSL and SSL finalist
MMA was a runner once and is BlizzCon runner-up and GSL semifinalist
Bomber was a runner once and has shown solid play, although nothing extraordinary. Same with jjakji, with weaker play, but like many true KR players.
Polt beat the greatest PvT players during the Protoss golden era
A team made with many former runners beat KeSPA's mighty JinAir this round in PL round robin
ForGG, Stardust and San are failures I'll give you that

honestly I was just kidding at first, but Yorkie got pretty rustled

and we both know that ByuL sucked before CJ picked him up


Given what I've seen of CJ, I'm just gonna go ahead and say that CJ had little impact on his skill overall. Send him to any other Kespa team and he's just as good.

And what have you seen of CJ?


They have all maintained there respective levels of skill, except SkyHigh who went up for a little bit.

Hydra improved after leaving.
Gumiho improved after leaving.
They basically chased effort out of the scene.

Compared to say what KT, JA, SKT, KHAN they havent really shown any kind of skill in increasing their players overall skills.

Rain got better results upon leaving SKT. PartinG too. MyunGsik too. I can't think of players that left Khan or JAGW recently. Hydra made 17th-24th of Code S twice while on CJ. What makes you tell he would do it now? I'll give you GuMiho, he should have been used by CJ.


I think Rain's skill went down, but his mindset went up.

Paring went up, but in his own words, "I'm a wild ESF animal. I don't belong in Kespa zoo."

They improved Classic (though that could have just been STX), Dream, Dark, soO and revived Inno.

JA improved Rogue, Cure, Trap.

Khan improved Bravo, revived Dear, improved Solar.

KT improved Stats and TY.

Every Kespa team can keep a players skill up within a certain range, but every other Kespa team beyond CJ has improved the overall skill in players in at least 2 players or more. In CJ's case the only player that impoved was ByuL, and he was on the up and up before he joined CJ.

Basically all I'm saying is CJ wasnt integral to ByuL's success. So long as he joined a Kespa team, I think he would have always been around this skill level.

Rain still won GSL though, that's not skill went down
Supter
Profile Joined February 2011
France382 Posts
September 09 2015 19:21 GMT
#560
If Elazer wins this, he can thanks Hitman.
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