[WCS] Ro16 Day 2 - Season 3 2015

[WCS] Ro16 Day 2 - Season 3 2015 - Page 31

Yorkie

United States12612 Posts

September 09 2015 19:29 GMT

#601

Bomber does a variant of this build with a smaller hellion commitment then maxes out on bio at 12 minutes. Post can't macro that well so hopefully the hellions do a lot

NeThZOR

South Africa7387 Posts

September 09 2015 19:29 GMT

#602

Smart move out by Polt

BlackCompany

Germany8388 Posts

September 09 2015 19:29 GMT

#603

nananananananana
HELL
BATS

OtherWorld

France17333 Posts

September 09 2015 19:29 GMT

#604

On September 10 2015 04:28 Aeromi wrote:

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On September 10 2015 03:59 OtherWorld wrote:

On September 10 2015 03:54 Ej_ wrote:
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yeah yeah find more excuses for the washed up Koreans

Well I mean
ByuL was a runner once and is now GSL and SSL finalist
MMA was a runner once and is BlizzCon runner-up and GSL semifinalist
Bomber was a runner once and has shown solid play, although nothing extraordinary. Same with jjakji, with weaker play, but like many true KR players.
Polt beat the greatest PvT players during the Protoss golden era
A team made with many former runners beat KeSPA's mighty JinAir this round in PL round robin
ForGG, Stardust and San are failures I'll give you that

honestly I was just kidding at first, but Yorkie got pretty rustled

and we both know that ByuL sucked before CJ picked him up

Given what I've seen of CJ, I'm just gonna go ahead and say that CJ had little impact on his skill overall. Send him to any other Kespa team and he's just as good.

And what have you seen of CJ?

They have all maintained there respective levels of skill, except SkyHigh who went up for a little bit.

Hydra improved after leaving.
Gumiho improved after leaving.
They basically chased effort out of the scene.

Compared to say what KT, JA, SKT, KHAN they havent really shown any kind of skill in increasing their players overall skills.

Rain got better results upon leaving SKT. PartinG too. MyunGsik too. I can't think of players that left Khan or JAGW recently. Hydra made 17th-24th of Code S twice while on CJ. What makes you tell he would do it now? I'll give you GuMiho, he should have been used by CJ.

I think Rain's skill went down, but his mindset went up.

Paring went up, but in his own words, "I'm a wild ESF animal. I don't belong in Kespa zoo."

They improved Classic (though that could have just been STX), Dream, Dark, soO and revived Inno.

JA improved Rogue, Cure, Trap.

Khan improved Bravo, revived Dear, improved Solar.

KT improved Stats and TY.

Every Kespa team can keep a players skill up within a certain range, but every other Kespa team beyond CJ has improved the overall skill in players in at least 2 players or more. In CJ's case the only player that impoved was ByuL, and he was on the up and up before he joined CJ.

Basically all I'm saying is CJ wasnt integral to ByuL's success. So long as he joined a Kespa team, I think he would have always been around this skill level.

I fail a bit to understand your reasoning here. How did Khan improve Solar (assuming we're talking about the period since ByuL joined CJ) or JAGW improved Cure, or KT improve TY, but CJ didn't improve herO, who won his first KR Premier this year and went one map away from GSL finals, or Ragnarok, semi-retired player who did Code S Ro32 (don't remember if it's during S2 or this season), or sKyHigh, who saw improved results, or Bbyong, who never knew individual success like that?

Ragnarok was never semi retired, he just did not want a team, he was still practicing on his own.

He never made either WCS Challenger or Code A though, right? That's basically what I mean by semi-retired.

Boucot

France15997 Posts

September 09 2015 19:29 GMT

#605

FORGGGGGGGG

Ej_

47656 Posts

September 09 2015 19:29 GMT

#606

I'm not even mad, this build is hilarious.

On September 10 2015 04:29 Yorkie wrote:
Bomber does a variant of this build with a smaller hellion commitment then maxes out on bio at 12 minutes. Post can't macro that well so hopefully the hellions do a lot

Bomber does BFH with 3OC, not double reactor into 2 base pressure

unless I missed some games he played outside big tournaments