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[SPL] CJ vs Prime Round 4 2015 - Page 2

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Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
August 25 2015 09:52 GMT
#21
On August 25 2015 18:51 Durnuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2015 18:43 Lorning wrote:
i want it now

You mean you want the LR ?

Nah, I want a win
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Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
August 25 2015 09:52 GMT
#22
Jesus Yoda looked awful there.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
August 25 2015 09:52 GMT
#23
Yoda has become a worse player since joining Prime I think. Just awful to see

Lets hope some good happens to that team soon
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Absentia
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom973 Posts
August 25 2015 09:52 GMT
#24
On August 25 2015 18:50 Disarmed wrote:
this is fucking ridiculous

herO lost 600 minerals by 10 minutes, i just don't see any holes in his play...can some high lvl player shed some light please? what are you supposed to do as terran?

now big army slaughter incoming


Yoda's build was just bad.
Disarmed
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria721 Posts
August 25 2015 09:53 GMT
#25
On August 25 2015 18:51 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2015 18:50 Disarmed wrote:
this is fucking ridiculous

herO lost 600 minerals by 10 minutes, i just don't see any holes in his play...can some high lvl player shed some light please? what are you supposed to do as terran?

now big army slaughter incoming

the third got unpunished while herO's army was literally only phoenix



how are you going to punish a 3rd when the second you move out 6 phoenixes and 2 oracles will destroy eco?

im not whining im genuinely curious...what would innovation have done differently?
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24209 Posts
August 25 2015 09:53 GMT
#26
On August 25 2015 18:51 Lorning wrote:
I don't get why YoDa turned back while going to the third when herO only had 7 phoenixes

Could have easily killed the 3rd

sigh

he got tagged so he thought his attack had no chance to work because he didn't know there was a third. Bad game sense and bad scouting.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24209 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-25 09:56:24
August 25 2015 09:55 GMT
#27
On August 25 2015 18:53 Disarmed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2015 18:51 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On August 25 2015 18:50 Disarmed wrote:
this is fucking ridiculous

herO lost 600 minerals by 10 minutes, i just don't see any holes in his play...can some high lvl player shed some light please? what are you supposed to do as terran?

now big army slaughter incoming

the third got unpunished while herO's army was literally only phoenix



how are you going to punish a 3rd when the second you move out 6 phoenixes and 2 oracles will destroy eco?

im not whining im genuinely curious...what would innovation have done differently?

if your only army which are the phoenix and the one oracle is busy trying to micro around a turret to kill scvs, stimmed bio will have a field day in the Protoss player's base.

To say it very clearly, that build is not imba/broken. It's very situational and relies on denying map control / scouting from the T, fun and all but far less solid than colo play.
FakePseudo
Profile Joined January 2012
Belgium716 Posts
August 25 2015 09:57 GMT
#28
On August 25 2015 18:51 Lorning wrote:
I don't get why YoDa turned back while going to the third when herO only had 7 phoenixes

Could have easily killed the 3rd

sigh


I don't even know if he saw the third at that moment. He scanned the main and saw the shitton of gates hero just made and no robo, no army. He might have thought he was getting allined/parting 10 gates.
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Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8157 Posts
August 25 2015 09:57 GMT
#29
On August 25 2015 18:51 Lorning wrote:
I don't get why YoDa turned back while going to the third when herO only had 7 phoenixes

Could have easily killed the 3rd

sigh


Cause Prime
StrategyTaeJa #1 || @TL_Jer99 || "seeker seeked out his seeking"
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
August 25 2015 09:58 GMT
#30
On August 25 2015 18:57 Jer99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2015 18:51 Lorning wrote:
I don't get why YoDa turned back while going to the third when herO only had 7 phoenixes

Could have easily killed the 3rd

sigh


Cause Prime

fuk u , jer u h8er
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Disarmed
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria721 Posts
August 25 2015 09:58 GMT
#31
On August 25 2015 18:55 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2015 18:53 Disarmed wrote:
On August 25 2015 18:51 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On August 25 2015 18:50 Disarmed wrote:
this is fucking ridiculous

herO lost 600 minerals by 10 minutes, i just don't see any holes in his play...can some high lvl player shed some light please? what are you supposed to do as terran?

now big army slaughter incoming

the third got unpunished while herO's army was literally only phoenix



how are you going to punish a 3rd when the second you move out 6 phoenixes and 2 oracles will destroy eco?

im not whining im genuinely curious...what would innovation have done differently?

if your only army which are the phoenix and the one oracle is busy trying to micro around a turret to kill scvs, stimmed bio will have a field day in the Protoss player's base.

To say it very clearly, that build is not imba/broken. It's very situational and relies on denying map control / scouting from the T, fun and all but far less solid than colo play.



i see...so it all comes down to not scouting/ not punishing the 3rd base?
Alucen-Will-
Profile Joined October 2014
United States4054 Posts
August 25 2015 09:58 GMT
#32
No bigger buzkill than moving from a herO game to one involving Ragnarok and BB
Philozovic
Profile Joined August 2012
France1677 Posts
August 25 2015 09:59 GMT
#33
Come on ragnarok I played the trade in any cheap player field against prime card !
INnoVation is the absolute best | I wept for i knew his words to be true
Barij
Profile Joined August 2015
England3 Posts
August 25 2015 09:59 GMT
#34
CJ need this win today. SK in the final match and very close for 2 through 6 right now. One of SBENU and Galaxy must win later...
herO :: MMA :: Rogue
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24209 Posts
August 25 2015 09:59 GMT
#35
On August 25 2015 18:57 FakePseudo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2015 18:51 Lorning wrote:
I don't get why YoDa turned back while going to the third when herO only had 7 phoenixes

Could have easily killed the 3rd

sigh


I don't even know if he saw the third at that moment. He scanned the main and saw the shitton of gates hero just made and no robo, no army. He might have thought he was getting allined/parting 10 gates.

I think there is a slim chance he thought herO followed up his phoenix production with a gateway all-in... Still it was a bad read because a gateway all-in would have hit ages ago and have been a very silly choice on this map where you have a 1 hex choke to hold.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24209 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-25 10:01:36
August 25 2015 10:00 GMT
#36
On August 25 2015 18:58 Disarmed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2015 18:55 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On August 25 2015 18:53 Disarmed wrote:
On August 25 2015 18:51 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On August 25 2015 18:50 Disarmed wrote:
this is fucking ridiculous

herO lost 600 minerals by 10 minutes, i just don't see any holes in his play...can some high lvl player shed some light please? what are you supposed to do as terran?

now big army slaughter incoming

the third got unpunished while herO's army was literally only phoenix



how are you going to punish a 3rd when the second you move out 6 phoenixes and 2 oracles will destroy eco?

im not whining im genuinely curious...what would innovation have done differently?

if your only army which are the phoenix and the one oracle is busy trying to micro around a turret to kill scvs, stimmed bio will have a field day in the Protoss player's base.

To say it very clearly, that build is not imba/broken. It's very situational and relies on denying map control / scouting from the T, fun and all but far less solid than colo play.



i see...so it all comes down to not scouting/ not punishing the 3rd base?

Yeah. In the game herO's third had been mining for a good 6 minutes when YoDa started his third. I think there is little point talking about anything that happened thereafter. herO could seriously go carriers chargelots archons and still win.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
August 25 2015 10:02 GMT
#37
Why are Liquibets with Prime for 1 point anyway? It's like cheating
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
August 25 2015 10:02 GMT
#38
B4 pretty good at sending his units across the map and doing nothing..
Alucen-Will-
Profile Joined October 2014
United States4054 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-25 10:03:08
August 25 2015 10:02 GMT
#39
On August 25 2015 18:59 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2015 18:57 FakePseudo wrote:
On August 25 2015 18:51 Lorning wrote:
I don't get why YoDa turned back while going to the third when herO only had 7 phoenixes

Could have easily killed the 3rd

sigh


I don't even know if he saw the third at that moment. He scanned the main and saw the shitton of gates hero just made and no robo, no army. He might have thought he was getting allined/parting 10 gates.

I think there is a slim chance he thought herO followed up his phoenix production with a gateway all-in... Still it was a bad read because a gateway all-in would have hit ages ago and have been a very silly choice on this map where you have a 1 hex choke to hold.


Interesting thoughts here, herO is a player like PartinG who loves to take quick third bases and cut midgame units like that.
I don't remember how many sentries he made, but making the warp prism shows the confidence he has in his ability to defend midgame pressure.

I don't understand Yoda's thought process though
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24209 Posts
August 25 2015 10:03 GMT
#40
On August 25 2015 19:02 deacon.frost wrote:
Why are Liquibets with Prime for 1 point anyway? It's like cheating

ha ha ha
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