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On August 06 2015 22:11 [PkF] Wire wrote:yeah. Even more embarrassing for SKT1 if you ask me, his preparation was just God awful. With only one match-up in which you're already quite good to prepare and arguably only players below you or of equal caliber, not going through is just professionnal misconduct.
Dark also didn't make it out of his all terran group in SSL S1, and ZvT is Dark's best Matchup, while For Dream, it's actually TvZ, not TvP, it's quite understandable
Funnily, this only happens to SKT players???
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Australia18228 Posts
RIP 3x runner-up for Dream
That bottom half bracket is actually really good for TY
Looks better for Classic too. Easier to PvP Rain/herO than Zest
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On August 06 2015 22:40 MiniFotToss wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2015 22:11 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 06 2015 22:10 Shellshock wrote:
wow embarrassing for Dream yeah. Even more embarrassing for SKT1 if you ask me, his preparation was just God awful. With only one match-up in which you're already quite good to prepare and arguably only players below you or of equal caliber, not going through is just professionnal misconduct. Dark also didn't make it out of his all terran group in SSL S1, and ZvT is Dark's best Matchup, while For Dream, it's actually TvZ, not TvP, it's quite understandable Funnily, this only happens to SKT players???
His TvZ skills are vastly overrated for some reason that continues to elude me.
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lol yes Myungsik!
Reading the last pages of this thread, it seems I missed crazy stuff! loved this two quotes:
On August 06 2015 21:57 lichter wrote:
It takes a special kind of player to win by accident so often
MyuNgSiK is great haha
On August 06 2015 21:57 Gowerly wrote:
The vuvuzelas have arrived.
(you talking about voidrays? lol)
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On August 06 2015 22:35 neptunusfisk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2015 22:30 HellHound wrote:On August 06 2015 22:27 neptunusfisk wrote:
greed, and die against some random units in your base
attack, and be behind since they stomp you with a minimal amount of units
defend, and be behind since they skip units and just outgreed you
So what you are saying is that terrans are shit at picking build orders? Yes, they are shit at not getting proxied, timing pushed and outturtled. Surely has something to do with protoss players being very clever about denying scouting and hiding buildings.
I'm glad you agree with me.
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On August 06 2015 22:53 HellHound wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2015 22:40 MiniFotToss wrote:On August 06 2015 22:11 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 06 2015 22:10 Shellshock wrote:
wow embarrassing for Dream yeah. Even more embarrassing for SKT1 if you ask me, his preparation was just God awful. With only one match-up in which you're already quite good to prepare and arguably only players below you or of equal caliber, not going through is just professionnal misconduct. Dark also didn't make it out of his all terran group in SSL S1, and ZvT is Dark's best Matchup, while For Dream, it's actually TvZ, not TvP, it's quite understandable Funnily, this only happens to SKT players??? His TvZ skills are vastly overrated for some reason that continues to elude me.
Dream is a player who really confused me in general, honestly. I have nothing against him and he's obviously done really well, but when I watch him play, I feel like I have no idea what makes him special. I had a feeling from him about like I had from many past champs who have since fallen through the cracks, and I actually don't even know exactly why I feel that way.
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On August 06 2015 23:27 neutralrobot wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2015 22:53 HellHound wrote:On August 06 2015 22:40 MiniFotToss wrote:On August 06 2015 22:11 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 06 2015 22:10 Shellshock wrote:
wow embarrassing for Dream yeah. Even more embarrassing for SKT1 if you ask me, his preparation was just God awful. With only one match-up in which you're already quite good to prepare and arguably only players below you or of equal caliber, not going through is just professionnal misconduct. Dark also didn't make it out of his all terran group in SSL S1, and ZvT is Dark's best Matchup, while For Dream, it's actually TvZ, not TvP, it's quite understandable Funnily, this only happens to SKT players??? His TvZ skills are vastly overrated for some reason that continues to elude me. Dream is a player who really confused me in general, honestly. I have nothing against him and he's obviously done really well, but when I watch him play, I feel like I have no idea what makes him special. I had a feeling from him about like I had from many past champs who have since fallen through the cracks, and I actually don't even know exactly why I feel that way.
He opens very greedy very often and then just macros and micros superb.
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On August 06 2015 22:09 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2015 22:06 Wildmoon wrote:On August 06 2015 22:04 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 06 2015 22:03 Wildmoon wrote:On August 06 2015 22:03 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 06 2015 22:02 sAsImre wrote:On August 06 2015 22:02 c0ldfusion wrote:
man, what is going on with Rain? he learnt how Protoss must be played. Yeah this is so sad. Protoss is meant to be played by tricky fuckers. Rain Proxy stargate into hidden twilight is NOT the Rain I used to be a fan of and respect. What wrong about being able to mix in some cheeses? He still plays his solid defensive style mostly. Rain was the safe defensive lifebuoy in an ocean of fuckerness. When he stopped playing the way he did in 2012-2013, I knew I had chosen the wrong race.
It's good that he is mixing in more cheese. Being too predictable is a liability. Maru is known to mix in things like 11/11 from time to time. Rain is doing the same sort of thing. Unexpected play can be powerful, and the goal is to win, after all.
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What the fuck azubu!!!! What were you guys thinking! "We have a simple video player with easy to use and find vod system... Hmmm... That's silly - let's change it make make vods impossible to find - call it 2.0"!
I'm trying so hard to search these forums for a way to see the vods without spoiling the results of this group... grrr.
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Belgica34432 Posts
On August 06 2015 23:58 caznitch wrote:
What the fuck azubu!!!! What were you guys thinking! "We have a simple video player with easy to use and find vod system... Hmmm... That's silly - let's change it make make vods impossible to find - call it 2.0"!
I'm trying so hard to search these forums for a way to see the vods without spoiling the results of this group... grrr.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-tournaments/119948-small-sc2-vod-thread?page=42#835
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37023 Posts
Nothing beats watching SSL LIVE from the NEXON arena. That was the shit~
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Belgica34432 Posts
On August 07 2015 00:04 Seeker wrote:
Nothing beats watching SSL LIVE from the NEXON arena. That was the shit~
Did you see MyuNgSiK from up close? :o
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On August 07 2015 00:04 Seeker wrote:
Nothing beats watching SSL LIVE from the NEXON arena. That was the shit~
Damn, any pictures? :D
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Errr.... Thanks... My tantrum was somewhat unnecessary.
Having watched the vods: Watching Myungsik win that last game was great. I think I shed a tear with him.
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On August 06 2015 23:34 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2015 23:27 neutralrobot wrote:On August 06 2015 22:53 HellHound wrote:On August 06 2015 22:40 MiniFotToss wrote:On August 06 2015 22:11 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 06 2015 22:10 Shellshock wrote:
wow embarrassing for Dream yeah. Even more embarrassing for SKT1 if you ask me, his preparation was just God awful. With only one match-up in which you're already quite good to prepare and arguably only players below you or of equal caliber, not going through is just professionnal misconduct. Dark also didn't make it out of his all terran group in SSL S1, and ZvT is Dark's best Matchup, while For Dream, it's actually TvZ, not TvP, it's quite understandable Funnily, this only happens to SKT players??? His TvZ skills are vastly overrated for some reason that continues to elude me. Dream is a player who really confused me in general, honestly. I have nothing against him and he's obviously done really well, but when I watch him play, I feel like I have no idea what makes him special. I had a feeling from him about like I had from many past champs who have since fallen through the cracks, and I actually don't even know exactly why I feel that way. He opens very greedy very often and then just macros and micros superb.
But it's weird, like... I don't feel like I've had that moment of "holy crap, how does he have that much stuff?" or "damn, it's like each of those marines was controlled by an AI!". You know what I mean? I haven't had that "shit, this guy's amazing!" moment.
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On August 07 2015 10:02 neutralrobot wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2015 23:34 Ej_ wrote:On August 06 2015 23:27 neutralrobot wrote:On August 06 2015 22:53 HellHound wrote:On August 06 2015 22:40 MiniFotToss wrote:On August 06 2015 22:11 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 06 2015 22:10 Shellshock wrote:
wow embarrassing for Dream yeah. Even more embarrassing for SKT1 if you ask me, his preparation was just God awful. With only one match-up in which you're already quite good to prepare and arguably only players below you or of equal caliber, not going through is just professionnal misconduct. Dark also didn't make it out of his all terran group in SSL S1, and ZvT is Dark's best Matchup, while For Dream, it's actually TvZ, not TvP, it's quite understandable Funnily, this only happens to SKT players??? His TvZ skills are vastly overrated for some reason that continues to elude me. Dream is a player who really confused me in general, honestly. I have nothing against him and he's obviously done really well, but when I watch him play, I feel like I have no idea what makes him special. I had a feeling from him about like I had from many past champs who have since fallen through the cracks, and I actually don't even know exactly why I feel that way. He opens very greedy very often and then just macros and micros superb. But it's weird, like... I don't feel like I've had that moment of "holy crap, how does he have that much stuff?" or "damn, it's like each of those marines was controlled by an AI!". You know what I mean? I haven't had that "shit, this guy's amazing!" moment.
His MMM-Thor v muta-bane-ling micro is jaw-dropping and a joy to watch - those marine splits and Thor pickups. That's how he wins sick engagements against Life - who has arguably Top 3 army control - even with a supply deficit.
Sad to see Dream bowing out so early. Then again, his nemesis Life is out as well, so maybe they're like "Yawn, see ya in Blizzconn, mate".
Super glad that Rain advanced. His series with Dear was close. Everyone was ridiculing his PvP prowess, but I saw it as a mere blip and fancied him the favourites to advance from the group (well, anytime a Korean loses to a foreigner in a Bo3 group match series, everyone loses their mind, goes full swagbro and exiles the said Korean to slump city). Doubt the Rainjwa at your peril!
Also, it's funny seeing how some people are now demonising Rain for being gimmicky by proxying. Geez... When the guy macros, he's called out for being boring. When he does smart timings, he's called out for being cheesy. What does Rainjwa have to do to win our respect and adoration? Or rather, what does have a Protoss have to do win mass respect and adoration?
And then I see a player of Myungsik calibre making out into RO8 (again), and I can understand people's hatred against the Protoss race. Sigh...
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Ugh after seeing Myungsiks first two games against Dream and then that sweet move command im quite sad he made it through.
Oh well, easy meat for Zest!
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Is there a reason why they changed the brackets so that players from the same group are on the same side? Doesn't make sense to me...
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