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United States97276 Posts
wow embarrassing for Dream
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On August 06 2015 22:09 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2015 22:06 Wildmoon wrote:On August 06 2015 22:04 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 06 2015 22:03 Wildmoon wrote:On August 06 2015 22:03 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 06 2015 22:02 sAsImre wrote:On August 06 2015 22:02 c0ldfusion wrote:
man, what is going on with Rain? he learnt how Protoss must be played. Yeah this is so sad. Protoss is meant to be played by tricky fuckers. Rain Proxy stargate into hidden twilight is NOT the Rain I used to be a fan of and respect. What wrong about being able to mix in some cheeses? He still plays his solid defensive style mostly. Rain was the safe defensive lifebuoy in an ocean of fuckerness. When he stopped playing the way he did in 2012-2013, I knew I had chosen the wrong race.
He didn't really stop it. He just mixed in other things to be more complete as a player... Mvp cheesed from time to time but he was still solid in macro. Being unpredictable is one of the things that will make you the greatest.
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
On August 06 2015 22:04 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2015 22:00 Lorning wrote:On August 06 2015 22:00 OtherWorld wrote:On August 06 2015 21:58 [PkF] Wire wrote:
If Myungsik makes Blizzcon because of that... Shit Dream, why were you so awful today ? If MyuNgSiK makes it to BlizzCon he's gonna get destroyed anyway^^ Just like today amirite Just like about anytime he plays a Bo5+ with the time for his opponent to prepare, yeah
So his opponents didn't prepare for him today? Quite dumb if you'd ask me
And to be honest if his series vs Dear and Dream were Bo5 he wouldve won anyway. So I still don't get your point
Oh wait yes I do, you're a hater 
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On August 06 2015 22:10 Shellshock wrote:
wow embarrassing for Dream
yeah. Even more embarrassing for SKT1 if you ask me, his preparation was just God awful. With only one match-up in which you're already quite good to prepare and arguably only players below you or of equal caliber, not going through is just professionnal misconduct.
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On August 06 2015 22:06 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2015 22:05 OtherWorld wrote:On August 06 2015 22:00 The_Red_Viper wrote:On August 06 2015 22:00 OtherWorld wrote:On August 06 2015 21:58 [PkF] Wire wrote:
If Myungsik makes Blizzcon because of that... Shit Dream, why were you so awful today ? If MyuNgSiK makes it to BlizzCon he's gonna get destroyed anyway^^ Myungsik isn't bad man, he is one of the better protoss players out there right now What? He's not even top 5... Sure, not top 5 But you don't have to be top 5 in your race to be "one of the better" players out there 
Well if you want to go that way, he's barely top 10 >.> I mean ffs the guy is at not even 51% offline WR this year, and his WR vs Korean (both on and offline) since the 1st of July is ~52%...
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On August 06 2015 22:10 Wildmoon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2015 22:09 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 06 2015 22:06 Wildmoon wrote:On August 06 2015 22:04 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 06 2015 22:03 Wildmoon wrote:On August 06 2015 22:03 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 06 2015 22:02 sAsImre wrote:On August 06 2015 22:02 c0ldfusion wrote:
man, what is going on with Rain? he learnt how Protoss must be played. Yeah this is so sad. Protoss is meant to be played by tricky fuckers. Rain Proxy stargate into hidden twilight is NOT the Rain I used to be a fan of and respect. What wrong about being able to mix in some cheeses? He still plays his solid defensive style mostly. Rain was the safe defensive lifebuoy in an ocean of fuckerness. When he stopped playing the way he did in 2012-2013, I knew I had chosen the wrong race. He didn't really stop it. He just mixed in other things to be more complete as a player... Mvp cheesed from time to time but he was still solid in macro. Being unpredictable is one of the things that will make you the greatest.
I know you're right, but when I saw Rain begin to do 8 gates and proxies, it just broke my heart. I nearly stopped playing at that time. I'm not objective at all on that point 
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On August 06 2015 22:11 Lorning wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2015 22:04 OtherWorld wrote:On August 06 2015 22:00 Lorning wrote:On August 06 2015 22:00 OtherWorld wrote:On August 06 2015 21:58 [PkF] Wire wrote:
If Myungsik makes Blizzcon because of that... Shit Dream, why were you so awful today ? If MyuNgSiK makes it to BlizzCon he's gonna get destroyed anyway^^ Just like today amirite Just like about anytime he plays a Bo5+ with the time for his opponent to prepare, yeah So his opponents didn't prepare for him today? Quite dumb if you'd ask me And to be honest if his series vs Dear and Dream were Bo5 he wouldve won anyway. So I still don't get your point Oh wait yes I do, you're a hater
My point is that MyuNgSiK is a gimmicky player who'd stand no chance at BlizzCon, or in the playoffs of SSL/GSL for that matter. I guess we'll get to see if my point is legit soon enough (we already saw a bit of the answer when he got humiliated by sOs last season...).
On August 06 2015 22:13 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2015 22:10 Wildmoon wrote:On August 06 2015 22:09 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 06 2015 22:06 Wildmoon wrote:On August 06 2015 22:04 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 06 2015 22:03 Wildmoon wrote:On August 06 2015 22:03 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 06 2015 22:02 sAsImre wrote:On August 06 2015 22:02 c0ldfusion wrote:
man, what is going on with Rain? he learnt how Protoss must be played. Yeah this is so sad. Protoss is meant to be played by tricky fuckers. Rain Proxy stargate into hidden twilight is NOT the Rain I used to be a fan of and respect. What wrong about being able to mix in some cheeses? He still plays his solid defensive style mostly. Rain was the safe defensive lifebuoy in an ocean of fuckerness. When he stopped playing the way he did in 2012-2013, I knew I had chosen the wrong race. He didn't really stop it. He just mixed in other things to be more complete as a player... Mvp cheesed from time to time but he was still solid in macro. Being unpredictable is one of the things that will make you the greatest. I know you're right, but when I saw Rain begin to do 8 gates and proxies, it just broke my heart. I nearly stopped playing at that time. I'm not objective at all on that point
Swiss air brings swiss cheese (and money), eh
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Maybe Dream was a bit too confident that he didn't prepare much or it just happened to be the bad day for him.
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On August 06 2015 22:14 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2015 22:11 Lorning wrote:On August 06 2015 22:04 OtherWorld wrote:On August 06 2015 22:00 Lorning wrote:On August 06 2015 22:00 OtherWorld wrote:On August 06 2015 21:58 [PkF] Wire wrote:
If Myungsik makes Blizzcon because of that... Shit Dream, why were you so awful today ? If MyuNgSiK makes it to BlizzCon he's gonna get destroyed anyway^^ Just like today amirite Just like about anytime he plays a Bo5+ with the time for his opponent to prepare, yeah So his opponents didn't prepare for him today? Quite dumb if you'd ask me And to be honest if his series vs Dear and Dream were Bo5 he wouldve won anyway. So I still don't get your point Oh wait yes I do, you're a hater My point is that MyuNgSiK is a gimmicky player who'd stand no chance at BlizzCon, or in the playoffs of SSL/GSL for that matter. I guess we'll get to see if my point is legit soon enough (we already saw a bit of the answer when he got humiliated by sOs last season...). Show nested quote +On August 06 2015 22:13 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 06 2015 22:10 Wildmoon wrote:On August 06 2015 22:09 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 06 2015 22:06 Wildmoon wrote:On August 06 2015 22:04 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 06 2015 22:03 Wildmoon wrote:On August 06 2015 22:03 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 06 2015 22:02 sAsImre wrote:On August 06 2015 22:02 c0ldfusion wrote:
man, what is going on with Rain? he learnt how Protoss must be played. Yeah this is so sad. Protoss is meant to be played by tricky fuckers. Rain Proxy stargate into hidden twilight is NOT the Rain I used to be a fan of and respect. What wrong about being able to mix in some cheeses? He still plays his solid defensive style mostly. Rain was the safe defensive lifebuoy in an ocean of fuckerness. When he stopped playing the way he did in 2012-2013, I knew I had chosen the wrong race. He didn't really stop it. He just mixed in other things to be more complete as a player... Mvp cheesed from time to time but he was still solid in macro. Being unpredictable is one of the things that will make you the greatest. I know you're right, but when I saw Rain begin to do 8 gates and proxies, it just broke my heart. I nearly stopped playing at that time. I'm not objective at all on that point Swiss air brings swiss cheese (and money), eh
Innovation vs Duckdeok never forget
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On August 06 2015 22:15 Wildmoon wrote:
Maybe Dream was a bit too confident that he didn't prepare much or it just happened to be the bad day for him.
I don't really buy the bad day excuse. Ofc it could be a bad day, but his choice of builds and preparation in general just didn't seem good for someone who can train with Classic.
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On August 06 2015 22:12 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2015 22:06 The_Red_Viper wrote:On August 06 2015 22:05 OtherWorld wrote:On August 06 2015 22:00 The_Red_Viper wrote:On August 06 2015 22:00 OtherWorld wrote:On August 06 2015 21:58 [PkF] Wire wrote:
If Myungsik makes Blizzcon because of that... Shit Dream, why were you so awful today ? If MyuNgSiK makes it to BlizzCon he's gonna get destroyed anyway^^ Myungsik isn't bad man, he is one of the better protoss players out there right now What? He's not even top 5... Sure, not top 5 But you don't have to be top 5 in your race to be "one of the better" players out there Well if you want to go that way, he's barely top 10 >.> I mean ffs the guy is at not even 51% offline WR this year, and his WR vs Korean (both on and offline) since the 1st of July is ~52%...
His recent results are quite good though, which was mostly what i was talking about.
Decent results in SSL and Kespa Cup and GSL season 2.
I don't know, but i think he is overall pretty good, but makes stupid mistakes which cost him already won games^^
I like him :D
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
On August 06 2015 22:14 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2015 22:11 Lorning wrote:On August 06 2015 22:04 OtherWorld wrote:On August 06 2015 22:00 Lorning wrote:On August 06 2015 22:00 OtherWorld wrote:On August 06 2015 21:58 [PkF] Wire wrote:
If Myungsik makes Blizzcon because of that... Shit Dream, why were you so awful today ? If MyuNgSiK makes it to BlizzCon he's gonna get destroyed anyway^^ Just like today amirite Just like about anytime he plays a Bo5+ with the time for his opponent to prepare, yeah So his opponents didn't prepare for him today? Quite dumb if you'd ask me And to be honest if his series vs Dear and Dream were Bo5 he wouldve won anyway. So I still don't get your point Oh wait yes I do, you're a hater My point is that MyuNgSiK is a gimmicky player who'd stand no chance at BlizzCon, or in the playoffs of SSL/GSL for that matter. I guess we'll get to see if my point is legit soon enough (we already saw a bit of the answer when he got humiliated by sOs last season...). Show nested quote +On August 06 2015 22:13 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 06 2015 22:10 Wildmoon wrote:On August 06 2015 22:09 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 06 2015 22:06 Wildmoon wrote:On August 06 2015 22:04 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 06 2015 22:03 Wildmoon wrote:On August 06 2015 22:03 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 06 2015 22:02 sAsImre wrote:On August 06 2015 22:02 c0ldfusion wrote:
man, what is going on with Rain? he learnt how Protoss must be played. Yeah this is so sad. Protoss is meant to be played by tricky fuckers. Rain Proxy stargate into hidden twilight is NOT the Rain I used to be a fan of and respect. What wrong about being able to mix in some cheeses? He still plays his solid defensive style mostly. Rain was the safe defensive lifebuoy in an ocean of fuckerness. When he stopped playing the way he did in 2012-2013, I knew I had chosen the wrong race. He didn't really stop it. He just mixed in other things to be more complete as a player... Mvp cheesed from time to time but he was still solid in macro. Being unpredictable is one of the things that will make you the greatest. I know you're right, but when I saw Rain begin to do 8 gates and proxies, it just broke my heart. I nearly stopped playing at that time. I'm not objective at all on that point Swiss air brings swiss cheese (and money), eh
I disagree. MyuNgSiK will win both this and WCS, then become the first SC2 banjo
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On August 06 2015 22:19 Lorning wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2015 22:14 OtherWorld wrote:On August 06 2015 22:11 Lorning wrote:On August 06 2015 22:04 OtherWorld wrote:On August 06 2015 22:00 Lorning wrote:On August 06 2015 22:00 OtherWorld wrote:On August 06 2015 21:58 [PkF] Wire wrote:
If Myungsik makes Blizzcon because of that... Shit Dream, why were you so awful today ? If MyuNgSiK makes it to BlizzCon he's gonna get destroyed anyway^^ Just like today amirite Just like about anytime he plays a Bo5+ with the time for his opponent to prepare, yeah So his opponents didn't prepare for him today? Quite dumb if you'd ask me And to be honest if his series vs Dear and Dream were Bo5 he wouldve won anyway. So I still don't get your point Oh wait yes I do, you're a hater My point is that MyuNgSiK is a gimmicky player who'd stand no chance at BlizzCon, or in the playoffs of SSL/GSL for that matter. I guess we'll get to see if my point is legit soon enough (we already saw a bit of the answer when he got humiliated by sOs last season...). On August 06 2015 22:13 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 06 2015 22:10 Wildmoon wrote:On August 06 2015 22:09 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 06 2015 22:06 Wildmoon wrote:On August 06 2015 22:04 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 06 2015 22:03 Wildmoon wrote:On August 06 2015 22:03 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 06 2015 22:02 sAsImre wrote:
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he learnt how Protoss must be played. Yeah this is so sad. Protoss is meant to be played by tricky fuckers. Rain Proxy stargate into hidden twilight is NOT the Rain I used to be a fan of and respect. What wrong about being able to mix in some cheeses? He still plays his solid defensive style mostly. Rain was the safe defensive lifebuoy in an ocean of fuckerness. When he stopped playing the way he did in 2012-2013, I knew I had chosen the wrong race. He didn't really stop it. He just mixed in other things to be more complete as a player... Mvp cheesed from time to time but he was still solid in macro. Being unpredictable is one of the things that will make you the greatest. I know you're right, but when I saw Rain begin to do 8 gates and proxies, it just broke my heart. I nearly stopped playing at that time. I'm not objective at all on that point Swiss air brings swiss cheese (and money), eh SC2 banjo
Is it a meme or just spell-checker ? I like it ^^
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okay, since marus style isnt working anymore, terran once again has the problem of old:
greed, and die against some random units in your base
attack, and be behind since they stomp you with a minimal amount of units
defend, and be behind since they skip units and just outgreed you
dream used to be super good at scouting and map awareness, but apparently he doesn't ever find proxies even on 2player maps
out of Innovation, flash, maru, dream, polt, bbyong... are there any terrans left that actually win in TvP?
innovation is ranked #1 on aligulac and he is the biggest boys puller out there next to flash, guess that says something 
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On August 06 2015 22:27 neptunusfisk wrote:okay, since marus style isnt working anymore, terran once again has the problem of old: greed, and die against some random units in your base attack, and be behind since they stomp you with a minimal amount of units defend, and be behind since they skip units and just outgreed you dream used to be super good at scouting and map awareness, but apparently he doesn't ever find proxies even on 2player maps out of Innovation, flash, maru, dream, polt, bbyong... are there any terrans left that actually win in TvP? innovation is ranked #1 on aligulac and he is the biggest boys puller out there next to flash, guess that says something
Polt.
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Bulgaria5962 Posts
On August 06 2015 22:27 neptunusfisk wrote:
greed, and die against some random units in your base
attack, and be behind since they stomp you with a minimal amount of units
defend, and be behind since they skip units and just outgreed you
So what you are saying is that terrans are shit at picking build orders?
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On August 06 2015 22:28 IntoTheheart wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2015 22:27 neptunusfisk wrote:okay, since marus style isnt working anymore, terran once again has the problem of old: greed, and die against some random units in your base attack, and be behind since they stomp you with a minimal amount of units defend, and be behind since they skip units and just outgreed you dream used to be super good at scouting and map awareness, but apparently he doesn't ever find proxies even on 2player maps out of Innovation, flash, maru, dream, polt, bbyong... are there any terrans left that actually win in TvP? innovation is ranked #1 on aligulac and he is the biggest boys puller out there next to flash, guess that says something Polt.
His only TvP against korean protoss this year was a loss in january... and beating Oz in an online cup, also in january.
If that's the pinnacle of TvP, I don't know what to feel
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On August 06 2015 22:33 neptunusfisk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2015 22:28 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 06 2015 22:27 neptunusfisk wrote:okay, since marus style isnt working anymore, terran once again has the problem of old: greed, and die against some random units in your base attack, and be behind since they stomp you with a minimal amount of units defend, and be behind since they skip units and just outgreed you dream used to be super good at scouting and map awareness, but apparently he doesn't ever find proxies even on 2player maps out of Innovation, flash, maru, dream, polt, bbyong... are there any terrans left that actually win in TvP? innovation is ranked #1 on aligulac and he is the biggest boys puller out there next to flash, guess that says something Polt. His only TvP against korean protoss this year was a loss in january... and beating Oz in an online cup, also in january. If that's the pinnacle of TvP, I don't know what to feel
I think "lost in the world" is a way of thinking about it.
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On August 06 2015 22:30 HellHound wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2015 22:27 neptunusfisk wrote:
greed, and die against some random units in your base
attack, and be behind since they stomp you with a minimal amount of units
defend, and be behind since they skip units and just outgreed you
So what you are saying is that terrans are shit at picking build orders?
Yes, they are shit at not getting proxied, timing pushed and outturtled. Surely has something to do with protoss players being very clever about denying scouting and hiding buildings.
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Canada8160 Posts
On August 06 2015 22:20 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2015 22:19 Lorning wrote:On August 06 2015 22:14 OtherWorld wrote:On August 06 2015 22:11 Lorning wrote:On August 06 2015 22:04 OtherWorld wrote:On August 06 2015 22:00 Lorning wrote:On August 06 2015 22:00 OtherWorld wrote:On August 06 2015 21:58 [PkF] Wire wrote:
If Myungsik makes Blizzcon because of that... Shit Dream, why were you so awful today ? If MyuNgSiK makes it to BlizzCon he's gonna get destroyed anyway^^ Just like today amirite Just like about anytime he plays a Bo5+ with the time for his opponent to prepare, yeah So his opponents didn't prepare for him today? Quite dumb if you'd ask me And to be honest if his series vs Dear and Dream were Bo5 he wouldve won anyway. So I still don't get your point Oh wait yes I do, you're a hater My point is that MyuNgSiK is a gimmicky player who'd stand no chance at BlizzCon, or in the playoffs of SSL/GSL for that matter. I guess we'll get to see if my point is legit soon enough (we already saw a bit of the answer when he got humiliated by sOs last season...). On August 06 2015 22:13 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 06 2015 22:10 Wildmoon wrote:On August 06 2015 22:09 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 06 2015 22:06 Wildmoon wrote:On August 06 2015 22:04 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 06 2015 22:03 Wildmoon wrote:On August 06 2015 22:03 [PkF] Wire wrote:
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Yeah this is so sad. Protoss is meant to be played by tricky fuckers. Rain Proxy stargate into hidden twilight is NOT the Rain I used to be a fan of and respect. What wrong about being able to mix in some cheeses? He still plays his solid defensive style mostly. Rain was the safe defensive lifebuoy in an ocean of fuckerness. When he stopped playing the way he did in 2012-2013, I knew I had chosen the wrong race. He didn't really stop it. He just mixed in other things to be more complete as a player... Mvp cheesed from time to time but he was still solid in macro. Being unpredictable is one of the things that will make you the greatest. I know you're right, but when I saw Rain begin to do 8 gates and proxies, it just broke my heart. I nearly stopped playing at that time. I'm not objective at all on that point Swiss air brings swiss cheese (and money), eh SC2 banjo Is it a meme or just spell-checker ? I like it ^^
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