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KingAlphard
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Italy1705 Posts
July 17 2015 20:29 GMT
#1761
On July 18 2015 05:28 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2015 05:26 KingAlphard wrote:
On July 18 2015 05:24 OtherWorld wrote:
On July 18 2015 05:24 KingAlphard wrote:
If the protoss goes mass cannon expand you just baneling bust him and he's dead.

Are you telling me that the Protoss dies in every case
I like this scenario


Yeah if you expand I don't think you're supposed to hold. Patience needed a full wall off in which case baneling bust would have been good (cause you need to put cannons in the front or spines kill everything)... but against an incomplete wall pure speedlings is fine.

Do you think a Protoss going FFE on this map could cannon rush the proxy hatch to prevent it from going down?

Yes that's a possible answer, as long as you 13 scout immediately the proxy location. However, if the zerg notices and cancel the hatch you won't be that much ahead cause you wasted 250 minerals delaying your own nexus while zerg lost only 75. It's about the same situation you're in when cannon rushing a gold base.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 17 2015 20:30 GMT
#1762
There's so many zergs on TL though I thought you guys would love zvz final
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
July 17 2015 20:30 GMT
#1763
Another player is judged to BE CODE A
Moderator
-KG-
Profile Joined October 2012
Denmark1219 Posts
July 17 2015 20:30 GMT
#1764
Remove this map.
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
July 17 2015 20:30 GMT
#1765
Poll: Patience vs Curious Game 5?

Terrible (2)
 
17%

Bad (2)
 
17%

Decent (4)
 
33%

Good (2)
 
17%

Awesome! (2)
 
17%

12 total votes

Your vote: Patience vs Curious Game 5?

(Vote): Terrible
(Vote): Bad
(Vote): Decent
(Vote): Good
(Vote): Awesome!

Neosteel Enthusiast
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
July 17 2015 20:30 GMT
#1766
On July 18 2015 05:29 KingAlphard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2015 05:28 OtherWorld wrote:
On July 18 2015 05:26 KingAlphard wrote:
On July 18 2015 05:24 OtherWorld wrote:
On July 18 2015 05:24 KingAlphard wrote:
If the protoss goes mass cannon expand you just baneling bust him and he's dead.

Are you telling me that the Protoss dies in every case
I like this scenario


Yeah if you expand I don't think you're supposed to hold. Patience needed a full wall off in which case baneling bust would have been good (cause you need to put cannons in the front or spines kill everything)... but against an incomplete wall pure speedlings is fine.

Do you think a Protoss going FFE on this map could cannon rush the proxy hatch to prevent it from going down?

Yes that's a possible answer, as long as you 13 scout immediately the proxy location. However, if the zerg notices and cancel the hatch you won't be that much ahead cause you wasted 250 minerals delaying your own nexus while zerg lost only 75. It's about the same situation you're in when cannon rushing a gold base.

Hmm OK.
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19384 Posts
July 17 2015 20:30 GMT
#1767
Curious fakes retirement and now is GOAT.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 17 2015 20:30 GMT
#1768
better map, bridgehead or daedalus?
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TL+ Member
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
July 17 2015 20:30 GMT
#1769
Come on Curious look exicted. Just try!
Neosteel Enthusiast
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 17 2015 20:30 GMT
#1770
On July 18 2015 05:30 BisuDagger wrote:
Curious fakes retirement and now is GOAT.

funny enough Snute was about to pull the same stunt and look at him now.
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TL+ Member
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
July 17 2015 20:31 GMT
#1771
To be fair Patience showed quite a good defence. If the robo placement is not bad he wins I think.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
July 17 2015 20:31 GMT
#1772
On July 18 2015 05:30 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2015 05:30 BisuDagger wrote:
Curious fakes retirement and now is GOAT.

funny enough Snute was about to pull the same stunt and look at him now.


The Zerg version of saying PvP is all luck.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 17 2015 20:31 GMT
#1773
On July 18 2015 05:30 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Come on Curious look exicted. Just try!

He's just a stone faced killer
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TL+ Member
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
July 17 2015 20:31 GMT
#1774
On July 18 2015 05:30 Shellshock wrote:
better map, bridgehead or daedalus?

Original Daedalus - 2/10
Fixed ramp Daedalus - 6/10
Bridgehead - 9/10
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munch
Profile Joined July 2014
Mute City2363 Posts
July 17 2015 20:31 GMT
#1775
On July 18 2015 05:28 Aeromi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2015 05:28 thecrazymunchkin wrote:
On July 18 2015 05:26 Shellshock wrote:
On July 18 2015 05:26 Aeromi wrote:
Curious is such an interesting player.

statement no one would have ever predicted to be said about Curious from 2011-2014


He did play the best game of muta ling bane I've ever seen though

VS INno on Frost IEM Asian Qualifier last game for the loser bracket spot ?


Yeah it was unbelievable
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
July 17 2015 20:31 GMT
#1776
If he had placed that robo to the south of the nexus and got 1 or 2 more immortals out, Patience would've won I think.

GG.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
July 17 2015 20:31 GMT
#1777
On July 18 2015 05:29 KingAlphard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2015 05:28 OtherWorld wrote:
On July 18 2015 05:26 KingAlphard wrote:
On July 18 2015 05:24 OtherWorld wrote:
On July 18 2015 05:24 KingAlphard wrote:
If the protoss goes mass cannon expand you just baneling bust him and he's dead.

Are you telling me that the Protoss dies in every case
I like this scenario


Yeah if you expand I don't think you're supposed to hold. Patience needed a full wall off in which case baneling bust would have been good (cause you need to put cannons in the front or spines kill everything)... but against an incomplete wall pure speedlings is fine.

Do you think a Protoss going FFE on this map could cannon rush the proxy hatch to prevent it from going down?

Yes that's a possible answer, as long as you 13 scout immediately the proxy location. However, if the zerg notices and cancel the hatch you won't be that much ahead cause you wasted 250 minerals delaying your own nexus while zerg lost only 75. It's about the same situation you're in when cannon rushing a gold base.


Didn't this happen in Trap vs Life? Trap showed the cannon and cancelled it after the hatch cancelled
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opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
July 17 2015 20:31 GMT
#1778
On July 18 2015 05:29 KingAlphard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2015 05:28 OtherWorld wrote:
On July 18 2015 05:26 KingAlphard wrote:
On July 18 2015 05:24 OtherWorld wrote:
On July 18 2015 05:24 KingAlphard wrote:
If the protoss goes mass cannon expand you just baneling bust him and he's dead.

Are you telling me that the Protoss dies in every case
I like this scenario


Yeah if you expand I don't think you're supposed to hold. Patience needed a full wall off in which case baneling bust would have been good (cause you need to put cannons in the front or spines kill everything)... but against an incomplete wall pure speedlings is fine.

Do you think a Protoss going FFE on this map could cannon rush the proxy hatch to prevent it from going down?

Yes that's a possible answer, as long as you 13 scout immediately the proxy location. However, if the zerg notices and cancel the hatch you won't be that much ahead cause you wasted 250 minerals delaying your own nexus while zerg lost only 75. It's about the same situation you're in when cannon rushing a gold base.


You can scout it and canon it and not let the Zerg know
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
July 17 2015 20:32 GMT
#1779
On July 18 2015 05:31 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2015 05:30 Shellshock wrote:
better map, bridgehead or daedalus?

Original Daedalus - 2/10
Fixed ramp Daedalus - 6/10
Bridgehead - 9/10

TLMC version of Bridgehead 10/10
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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
July 17 2015 20:32 GMT
#1780
On July 18 2015 05:30 Shellshock wrote:
better map, bridgehead or daedalus?

Daedalus wide ramp is one of the worst maps ever. I kinda liked normal ramp Daedalus, not the most amazing map, but a fair one.
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