Dark wins 3-0! Grand Finals soO vs Dark soO <Bridgehead> Dark soO<Cactus Valley> Dark soO <Dash and Terminal> Dark soO <Coda> Dark soO <Terranform> Dark soO <Iron Fortress> Dark soO <Moonlight Madness> Dark
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (9)
60%
★★★ - Good game (2)
13%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
7%
15 total votes
Your vote: Flash vs soO Game 1
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: Flash vs soO Game 2
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (12)
24%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
6%
★★★ - Good game (1)
2%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (3)
6%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (32)
63%
51 total votes
Your vote: Flash vs soO Game 2
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: Flash vs soO Game 3
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (7)
27%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
15%
★★★ - Good game (6)
23%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (6)
23%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (3)
12%
26 total votes
Your vote: Flash vs soO Game 3
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: Flash vs soO Game 4
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (4)
31%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
8%
★★★ - Good game (7)
54%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
8%
13 total votes
Your vote: Flash vs soO Game 4
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: Flash vs soO Game 5
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (6)
50%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
25%
★★★ - Good game (2)
17%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
8%
12 total votes
Your vote: Flash vs soO Game 5
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
57%
★★★ - Good game (2)
29%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
7 total votes
Your vote: Dark vs Dream Game 1
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: Dark vs Dream Game 2
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★ - Good game (4)
15%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (8)
31%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (14)
54%
26 total votes
Your vote: Dark vs Dream Game 2
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: Dark vs Dream Game 3
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (10)
56%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (6)
33%
★★★ - Good game (1)
6%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
6%
18 total votes
Your vote: Dark vs Dream Game 3
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: Dark vs Dream Game 4
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1)
10%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (6)
60%
★★★ - Good game (3)
30%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
10 total votes
Your vote: Dark vs Dream Game 4
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: Dark vs Dream Game 5
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1)
11%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
11%
★★★ - Good game (4)
44%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (2)
22%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
11%
9 total votes
Your vote: Dark vs Dream Game 5
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★ - Good game (3)
30%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (6)
60%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
10 total votes
Your vote: Grand Finals Game 1
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: Grand Finals Game 2
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1)
14%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
43%
★★★ - Good game (2)
29%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (1)
14%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
7 total votes
Your vote: Grand Finals Game 2
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: Grand Finals Game 3
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (2)
25%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★ - Good game (5)
63%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (1)
13%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
8 total votes
Your vote: Grand Finals Game 3
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: Grand Finals Game 4
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1)
6%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★ - Good game (1)
6%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (9)
56%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (5)
31%
16 total votes
Your vote: Grand Finals Game 4
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: Grand Finals Game 5
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★ - Good game (7)
50%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (4)
29%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (3)
21%
14 total votes
Your vote: Grand Finals Game 5
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: Grand Finals Game 6
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
57%
★★★ - Good game (1)
14%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (2)
29%
7 total votes
Your vote: Grand Finals Game 6
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: Grand Finals Game 7
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★ - Good game (6)
75%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (2)
25%
8 total votes
Your vote: Grand Finals Game 7
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Flash vs soOin in KeSPA Cup 2 semifinals. Flash has the #2 Headband. Flash is at 0.64% Blizzcon Chances, with a 40.01% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 0.92%, or 0.45% if they lose. soO is at 5.03% Blizzcon Chances, with a 59.99% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 6.02%, or 3.55% if they lose.
Dark vs Dreamin in KeSPA Cup 2 semifinals. Dark has the #3 Headband. Dark is at 60.43% Blizzcon Chances, with a 59.63% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 68.9%, or 47.92% if they lose. Dream is at 100% Blizzcon Chances, with a 40.37% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 100%, or 100% if they lose.
Dark has a 35.52% chance to win ----going from 60.43% to 77.12% if they get 1st, or 51.24% if they don't. soO has a 30.2% chance to win ----going from 5.03% to 7.37% if they get 1st, or 4.02% if they don't. Dream has a 17.41% chance to win ----going from 100% to 100% if they get 1st, or 100% if they don't. Flash has a 16.87% chance to win ----going from 0.64% to 1.32% if they get 1st, or 0.5% if they don't.
Branch #2248 -If Flash wins this and Dreamhack Stockholm he goes up to 6.11% -If Flash wins this and Code S he goes up to 73.9% -If Flash wins this and gets 2nd in Code S he goes up to 11.13%
Biggest Winners Rogue went up by 0.95%, going from 71.51% to 72.46% Stats went up by 0.92%, going from 40.21% to 41.12% sOs went up by 0.81%, going from 55.79% to 56.59% FanTaSy went up by 0.72%, going from 27.53% to 28.25% INnoVation went up by 0.7%, going from 61.21% to 61.92% Flash went up by 0.68%, going from 0.64% to 1.32% Bunny went up by 0.58%, going from 22.14% to 22.72% + Show Spoiler [More Winners] +
HyuN went up by 0.55%, going from 31.98% to 32.53% ByuL went up by 0.44%, going from 93.74% to 94.18% MyuNgSiK went up by 0.43%, going from 15.15% to 15.57% Dear went up by 0.42%, going from 21.65% to 22.07% TY went up by 0.36%, going from 12.89% to 13.25% GuMiho went up by 0.2%, going from 6.85% to 7.05% Lilbow went up by 0.16%, going from 10.06% to 10.23% ForGG went up by 0.15%, going from 12.8% to 12.95% Snute went up by 0.15%, going from 6.46% to 6.61% Zest went up by 0.15%, going from 98.22% to 98.36% Jaedong went up by 0.15%, going from 9.43% to 9.57% Solar went up by 0.14%, going from 5.1% to 5.24% Trap went up by 0.13%, going from 7.12% to 7.25% Polt went up by 0.1%, going from 98.95% to 99.05%
Biggest Losers Dark went down by 8.36%, going from 60.43% to 52.08% soO went down by 1.36%, going from 5.03% to 3.67%
Branch #2249 -If Dark wins this and Code A he goes up to 84.59% -If Dark wins this and gets 2nd in Dreamhack Stockholm he goes up to 99.14% -If Dark wins this and gets 8th place in Code S he goes up to 99.03%
Biggest Winners Dark went up by 16.69%, going from 60.43% to 77.12%
Biggest Losers Rogue went down by 1.58%, going from 71.51% to 69.92% Stats went down by 1.56%, going from 40.21% to 38.65% sOs went down by 1.38%, going from 55.79% to 54.41% INnoVation went down by 1.22%, going from 61.21% to 59.99% FanTaSy went down by 1.18%, going from 27.53% to 26.35% soO went down by 1.05%, going from 5.03% to 3.98% HyuN went down by 0.99%, going from 31.98% to 30.99% + Show Spoiler [More Losers] +
Bunny went down by 0.95%, going from 22.14% to 21.2% Dear went down by 0.72%, going from 21.65% to 20.93% ByuL went down by 0.72%, going from 93.74% to 93.02% MyuNgSiK went down by 0.71%, going from 15.15% to 14.44% TY went down by 0.59%, going from 12.89% to 12.3% GuMiho went down by 0.37%, going from 6.85% to 6.48% Jaedong went down by 0.32%, going from 9.43% to 9.11% ForGG went down by 0.3%, going from 12.8% to 12.5% Lilbow went down by 0.28%, going from 10.06% to 9.78% Zest went down by 0.24%, going from 98.22% to 97.97% Trap went down by 0.24%, going from 7.12% to 6.88% Snute went down by 0.23%, going from 6.46% to 6.22% Solar went down by 0.21%, going from 5.1% to 4.89% Polt went down by 0.19%, going from 98.95% to 98.76% Bbyong went down by 0.15%, going from 3.99% to 3.84% Flash went down by 0.13%, going from 0.64% to 0.51% Curious went down by 0.13%, going from 2.58% to 2.45% Soulkey went down by 0.13%, going from 1.48% to 1.36% MarineLorD went down by 0.11%, going from 1.59% to 1.48% ShoWTimE went down by 0.1%, going from 2.39% to 2.29%
Branch #2250 -If Dream wins this and Dark gets 8th in Code S then Dark goes up to 80.52% -If Dream wins this and soO wins Code S then soO goes up to 69.72% -If Dream wins this and Flash wins Code S then Flash goes up to 36.33%
Biggest Winners Rogue went up by 1.35%, going from 71.51% to 72.86% Stats went up by 1.28%, going from 40.21% to 41.48% sOs went up by 1.16%, going from 55.79% to 56.95% INnoVation went up by 1.09%, going from 61.21% to 62.31% FanTaSy went up by 0.95%, going from 27.53% to 28.48% HyuN went up by 0.86%, going from 31.98% to 32.85% Bunny went up by 0.79%, going from 22.14% to 22.93% + Show Spoiler [More Winners] +
ByuL went up by 0.62%, going from 93.74% to 94.36% MyuNgSiK went up by 0.6%, going from 15.15% to 15.75% Dear went up by 0.58%, going from 21.65% to 22.23% TY went up by 0.48%, going from 12.89% to 13.37% GuMiho went up by 0.31%, going from 6.85% to 7.16% Jaedong went up by 0.31%, going from 9.43% to 9.74% ForGG went up by 0.23%, going from 12.8% to 13.03% Zest went up by 0.21%, going from 98.22% to 98.42% Lilbow went up by 0.21%, going from 10.06% to 10.27% Snute went up by 0.21%, going from 6.46% to 6.66% Trap went up by 0.2%, going from 7.12% to 7.32% Polt went up by 0.17%, going from 98.95% to 99.11% Bbyong went up by 0.16%, going from 3.99% to 4.16% Solar went up by 0.16%, going from 5.1% to 5.26% Curious went up by 0.11%, going from 2.58% to 2.7%
Biggest Losers Dark went down by 12.4%, going from 60.43% to 48.03% soO went down by 0.58%, going from 5.03% to 4.45%
Branch #2251 -If soO wins this and Code S then he goes up to 94.89% -If soO wins this and gets 2nd in Code S then he goes up to 24.43% -If soO wins this and wins Dreamhack Stockholm then he goes up to 24.45% -If soO wins this and gets 2nd in Dreamhack Stockholm then he goes up to 15.41%
Biggest Winners soO went up by 2.34%, going from 5.03% to 7.37% Stats went up by 0.58%, going from 40.21% to 40.79% Rogue went up by 0.56%, going from 71.51% to 72.06% sOs went up by 0.5%, going from 55.79% to 56.29% FanTaSy went up by 0.44%, going from 27.53% to 27.97% INnoVation went up by 0.41%, going from 61.21% to 61.62% HyuN went up by 0.35%, going from 31.98% to 32.34% + Show Spoiler [More Winners] +
Bunny went up by 0.34%, going from 22.14% to 22.48% Dear went up by 0.28%, going from 21.65% to 21.93% MyuNgSiK went up by 0.24%, going from 15.15% to 15.39% ByuL went up by 0.24%, going from 93.74% to 93.98% TY went up by 0.22%, going from 12.89% to 13.11% GuMiho went up by 0.15%, going from 6.85% to 6.99% ForGG went up by 0.13%, going from 12.8% to 12.93% Lilbow went up by 0.13%, going from 10.06% to 10.19% Jaedong went up by 0.12%, going from 9.43% to 9.54%
Biggest Losers Dark went down by 7.81%, going from 60.43% to 52.62% Flash went down by 0.17%, going from 0.64% to 0.47%
Really happy with this line up of players, finals should be great no matter who end up getting trough! Flash vs Dark or soO vs Dream would be the best though.
On July 12 2015 15:15 Kaizor wrote: LOL @ all the Soo hype.
Haven't we been through this before guys?
Soo shows impressive form throughout a tournament, everyone expects him to win the finals with ease....
And he justs bombs out in the finals.
LOL Dream it is.
Flash is the only player here who isn't a kong. Also it kind of annoys me everyone thinks Dream will beat Dark. Dark is one of the (the?) zvt'ers and has very little issue with just cheesing the shit out of people
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (9)
60%
★★★ - Good game (2)
13%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
7%
15 total votes
Your vote: Flash vs soO Game 1
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
On July 12 2015 15:39 chipmonklord17 wrote: remember guys, in lotv you can even pick up sieged tanks, so this level of bullshit could have continued much longer
I feel like that's gonna restrict the possibilities for map makers a lot
On July 12 2015 15:40 Shellshock wrote: can't believe Blizzard is still making these map mistakes in 2015. the community maps would never do something like that /s
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
6%
★★★ - Good game (1)
2%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (3)
6%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (32)
63%
51 total votes
Your vote: Flash vs soO Game 2
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
soo's win, a move roach hydra army end in 5 seconds. flash win: using strategy tailored to map, microing continuously. Terran single handedly creating entertainment for starcraft 2 esrpots.
On July 12 2015 15:42 doihy wrote: soo's win, a move roach hydra army end in 5 seconds. flash win: using strategy tailored to map, microing continuously. Terran single handedly creating entertainment for starcraft 2 esrpots.
soO's win, out macroing the macro machine that is flash and punishing him for using a moronic strategy Flash's win, abuse the fuck out of the map
On July 12 2015 15:42 doihy wrote: soo's win, a move roach hydra army end in 5 seconds. flash win: using strategy tailored to map, microing continuously. Terran single handedly creating entertainment for starcraft 2 esrpots.
I enjoyed it! (I also needed some salt this morning)
On July 12 2015 15:42 doihy wrote: soo's win, a move roach hydra army end in 5 seconds. flash win: using strategy tailored to map, microing continuously. Terran single handedly creating entertainment for starcraft 2 esrpots.
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
6%
★★★ - Good game (1)
2%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (3)
6%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (32)
63%
51 total votes
Your vote: Flash vs soO Game 2
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
On July 12 2015 15:42 doihy wrote: soo's win, a move roach hydra army end in 5 seconds. flash win: using strategy tailored to map, microing continuously. Terran single handedly creating entertainment for starcraft 2 esrpots.
soO's win, out macroing the macro machine that is flash and punishing him for using a moronic strategy Flash's win, abuse the fuck out of the map
God forbid I use one of the elements of the game to win, right?
On July 12 2015 15:42 doihy wrote: soo's win, a move roach hydra army end in 5 seconds. flash win: using strategy tailored to map, microing continuously. Terran single handedly creating entertainment for starcraft 2 esrpots.
soO's win, out macroing the macro machine that is flash and punishing him for using a moronic strategy Flash's win, abuse the fuck out of the map
God forbid I use one of the elements of the game to win, right?
Oh I'm not going to deny that that was smart and incredible (and irritating) to watch. But that was abusing the map to the fullest extent
On July 12 2015 15:42 doihy wrote: soo's win, a move roach hydra army end in 5 seconds. flash win: using strategy tailored to map, microing continuously. Terran single handedly creating entertainment for starcraft 2 esrpots.
Flash loss masses vikings vs roach hydra. soO loss loses to super abusable built he even tried to blind counter with lair first.
On July 12 2015 15:42 doihy wrote: soo's win, a move roach hydra army end in 5 seconds. flash win: using strategy tailored to map, microing continuously. Terran single handedly creating entertainment for starcraft 2 esrpots.
soO's win, out macroing the macro machine that is flash and punishing him for using a moronic strategy Flash's win, abuse the fuck out of the map
God forbid I use one of the elements of the game to win, right?
Oh I'm not going to deny that that was smart and incredible (and irritating) to watch. But that was abusing the map to the fullest extent
On July 12 2015 15:42 doihy wrote: soo's win, a move roach hydra army end in 5 seconds. flash win: using strategy tailored to map, microing continuously. Terran single handedly creating entertainment for starcraft 2 esrpots.
soO's win, out macroing the macro machine that is flash and punishing him for using a moronic strategy Flash's win, abuse the fuck out of the map
God forbid I use one of the elements of the game to win, right?
On July 12 2015 15:49 chipmonklord17 wrote: Guys we need a clever, not terraform, name for terraform. This map pool already has Moonglade Madness, Fat Scrap Station, and Heartbreak Ridge
On July 12 2015 15:49 chipmonklord17 wrote: Guys we need a clever, not terraform, name for terraform. This map pool already has Moonglade Madness, Fat Scrap Station, and Heartbreak Ridge
Terrorform?
In honor of the zerg who never would have the chance to not win on this map. I like it
I dont understand korean mech, I mean look at marinelord for example in Europe, he understood that u cannot lose if you mech and slowly move forward instead of brutal aggro .... A bit disappointed in flash here
On July 12 2015 16:04 chipmonklord17 wrote: is there a number for queens where you'll have "infinite" transfuses? Like how with I think its 6 sentries you have "infinite" forcefields?
it would depend on amount of dps of the other army.
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
15%
★★★ - Good game (6)
23%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (6)
23%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (3)
12%
26 total votes
Your vote: Flash vs soO Game 3
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
On July 12 2015 16:04 chipmonklord17 wrote: is there a number for queens where you'll have "infinite" transfuses? Like how with I think its 6 sentries you have "infinite" forcefields?
That depends on what is transfuse being used on For a corruptor with + 3 armor vs a phoenix without upgrades 1 queen is infinite.
On July 12 2015 16:04 chipmonklord17 wrote: is there a number for queens where you'll have "infinite" transfuses? Like how with I think its 6 sentries you have "infinite" forcefields?
I think it's 4 sentries to forcefield a small ramp (main to natural). The number of queens depends on the dps of the other army.
On July 12 2015 16:04 chipmonklord17 wrote: is there a number for queens where you'll have "infinite" transfuses? Like how with I think its 6 sentries you have "infinite" forcefields?
it would depend on amount of dps of the other army.
How do you figure? The amount of energy a queen would have is independent of the opponents dps in the same way a sentry's is.
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As soon as he saw that many queens with ultras, should have made ghost academy and a couple of rax for ghosts to emp them. He'd be too hard pressed to outdps the heals they offer.
On July 12 2015 16:04 chipmonklord17 wrote: is there a number for queens where you'll have "infinite" transfuses? Like how with I think its 6 sentries you have "infinite" forcefields?
it would depend on amount of dps of the other army.
How do you figure? The amount of energy a queen would have is independent of the opponents dps in the same way a sentry's is.
They kill your unit faster -> you have to transfuse faster
On July 12 2015 16:04 chipmonklord17 wrote: is there a number for queens where you'll have "infinite" transfuses? Like how with I think its 6 sentries you have "infinite" forcefields?
That depends on what is transfuse being used on For a corruptor with + 3 armor vs a phoenix without upgrades 1 queen is infinite.
Or an ultra against a sentry, 0 queens are infinite. :p
On July 12 2015 16:04 chipmonklord17 wrote: is there a number for queens where you'll have "infinite" transfuses? Like how with I think its 6 sentries you have "infinite" forcefields?
it would depend on amount of dps of the other army.
How do you figure? The amount of energy a queen would have is independent of the opponents dps in the same way a sentry's is.
They kill your unit faster -> you have to transfuse faster
On July 12 2015 16:04 chipmonklord17 wrote: is there a number for queens where you'll have "infinite" transfuses? Like how with I think its 6 sentries you have "infinite" forcefields?
it would depend on amount of dps of the other army.
How do you figure? The amount of energy a queen would have is independent of the opponents dps in the same way a sentry's is.
forcefields last on seconds. Transfuses last on health. If an army does 2k dps, you're gonna need a shitload of queens to transfuse one ultra for 125 hp a pop.
On July 12 2015 16:04 chipmonklord17 wrote: is there a number for queens where you'll have "infinite" transfuses? Like how with I think its 6 sentries you have "infinite" forcefields?
That depends on what is transfuse being used on For a corruptor with + 3 armor vs a phoenix without upgrades 1 queen is infinite.
Or an ultra against a sentry, 0 queens are infinite. :p
How many sentries would it take to one shot an ultra?
On July 12 2015 16:07 yoshi245 wrote: As soon as he saw that many queens with ultras, should have made ghost academy and a couple of rax for ghosts to emp them. He'd be too hard pressed to outdps the heals they offer.
or turtle into gold and take the bottom base while spamming yamotos and ravens.
On July 12 2015 16:04 chipmonklord17 wrote: is there a number for queens where you'll have "infinite" transfuses? Like how with I think its 6 sentries you have "infinite" forcefields?
That depends on what is transfuse being used on For a corruptor with + 3 armor vs a phoenix without upgrades 1 queen is infinite.
Or an ultra against a sentry, 0 queens are infinite. :p
How many sentries would it take to one shot an ultra?
On July 12 2015 16:06 negativedge wrote: this counts as a special event, so soo is guaranteed to win, right?
Didn't he suck in those hot6ix cups and stuff?
I think the way it works is if you're a kong and you find yourself in contention in a special event, then you will win it. you can still suck and drop out fast.
On July 12 2015 16:04 chipmonklord17 wrote: is there a number for queens where you'll have "infinite" transfuses? Like how with I think its 6 sentries you have "infinite" forcefields?
That depends on what is transfuse being used on For a corruptor with + 3 armor vs a phoenix without upgrades 1 queen is infinite.
Or an ultra against a sentry, 0 queens are infinite. :p
How many sentries would it take to one shot an ultra?
On July 12 2015 16:04 chipmonklord17 wrote: is there a number for queens where you'll have "infinite" transfuses? Like how with I think its 6 sentries you have "infinite" forcefields?
That depends on what is transfuse being used on For a corruptor with + 3 armor vs a phoenix without upgrades 1 queen is infinite.
Or an ultra against a sentry, 0 queens are infinite. :p
How many sentries would it take to one shot an ultra?
How many sentries can Bisu make?
You can't keep answering questions with the same questions stu
On July 12 2015 16:04 chipmonklord17 wrote: is there a number for queens where you'll have "infinite" transfuses? Like how with I think its 6 sentries you have "infinite" forcefields?
That depends on what is transfuse being used on For a corruptor with + 3 armor vs a phoenix without upgrades 1 queen is infinite.
Or an ultra against a sentry, 0 queens are infinite. :p
How many sentries would it take to one shot an ultra?
if 0 upgrades for sentries lotv ultra will take 1000.
On July 12 2015 16:04 chipmonklord17 wrote: is there a number for queens where you'll have "infinite" transfuses? Like how with I think its 6 sentries you have "infinite" forcefields?
That depends on what is transfuse being used on For a corruptor with + 3 armor vs a phoenix without upgrades 1 queen is infinite.
Or an ultra against a sentry, 0 queens are infinite. :p
How many sentries would it take to one shot an ultra?
if 0 upgrades for sentries lotv ultra will take 1000.
That's a nice number, Blizzard really thought of everything
On July 12 2015 16:04 chipmonklord17 wrote: is there a number for queens where you'll have "infinite" transfuses? Like how with I think its 6 sentries you have "infinite" forcefields?
That depends on what is transfuse being used on For a corruptor with + 3 armor vs a phoenix without upgrades 1 queen is infinite.
Or an ultra against a sentry, 0 queens are infinite. :p
How many sentries would it take to one shot an ultra?
Unless I'm stupid, which trust me is possible, the answer is 60
On July 12 2015 16:04 chipmonklord17 wrote: is there a number for queens where you'll have "infinite" transfuses? Like how with I think its 6 sentries you have "infinite" forcefields?
That depends on what is transfuse being used on For a corruptor with + 3 armor vs a phoenix without upgrades 1 queen is infinite.
Or an ultra against a sentry, 0 queens are infinite. :p
How many sentries would it take to one shot an ultra?
Unless I'm stupid, which trust me is possible, the answer is 60
On July 12 2015 16:04 chipmonklord17 wrote: is there a number for queens where you'll have "infinite" transfuses? Like how with I think its 6 sentries you have "infinite" forcefields?
That depends on what is transfuse being used on For a corruptor with + 3 armor vs a phoenix without upgrades 1 queen is infinite.
Or an ultra against a sentry, 0 queens are infinite. :p
How many sentries would it take to one shot an ultra?
Unless I'm stupid, which trust me is possible, the answer is 60
On July 12 2015 16:14 stuchiu wrote: wait does the sentry number count user skill. Cause you could probablykill the ultra with less sentries by splits and using immortal illusions.
On July 12 2015 16:11 stuchiu wrote: My favorite Bisu sc2 moment was this time he had the game won if he a-moved. Instead he forcefielded the spines to protect them from his own zealots.
That happened? How can his micro be so perfect in BW and not be able to FF? Seems that if you're great at BW you're destined to fail at SC2. See: This game.
On July 12 2015 16:14 stuchiu wrote: wait does the sentry number count user skill. Cause you could probablykill the ultra with less sentries by splits and using immortal illusions.
I think you are drunk The question are how many sentries does it take to one shot an ultra ( well 500 shot)
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Your vote: Flash vs soO Game 4
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Poll: Flash vs soO Game 5
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (6)
50%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
25%
★★★ - Good game (2)
17%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
8%
12 total votes
Your vote: Flash vs soO Game 5
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On July 12 2015 16:19 stuchiu wrote: Flash fans should feel good about this. Last time Flash lost he was in the best form of his life, killed 29 drones in the early game and still lost.
On July 12 2015 16:19 stuchiu wrote: Flash fans should feel good about this. Last time Flash lost he was in the best form of his life, killed 29 drones in the early game and still lost.
Game of deadwing was better.
When Flash walked on the creep for exactly .5 seconds and then died.
On July 12 2015 16:19 stuchiu wrote: Flash fans should feel good about this. Last time Flash lost he was in the best form of his life, killed 29 drones in the early game and still lost.
Game of deadwing was better.
When Flash walked on the creep for exactly .5 seconds and then died.
oh yes Excuse me I need some lotion and toilet paper.
On July 12 2015 16:19 stuchiu wrote: Flash fans should feel good about this. Last time Flash lost he was in the best form of his life, killed 29 drones in the early game and still lost.
He beat Curious and Classic and took a map against in form soO for a 3-4th place finish, don't think Flash fans have a reason to feel bad about it. He might have been able to win a game or two more against soO with less mistakes but whatever. He looked better at KeSPA Cup than he did for the majority of the year so far, good enough.
Also I hope Dark loses now, ZvZ finals would just kill everything :S
On July 12 2015 16:37 chipmonklord17 wrote: I wonder if the ban is going to shift from Fat Scrap Station to Moonglade Madness in tvz or if Flash's bull shitery was a 1 time thing
Considering soO tried to blind counter it with 100 gas -> lair and still died On the other hand the counter to tanks is bane busts so
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Your vote: Dark vs Dream Game 1
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On July 12 2015 16:25 Silvana wrote: Oh well, this was expected. Too bad the loses looked really lame, but still a very decent run
Pretty fun tourney if only Flash was in a good enough form to play bio vs soO
I feel like the only Terran with good enough form and mechanics to play bio vs soO and win is INnoVation anyway.
Hard to tell since we never got to see 100% inno vs 100% soO This year is so weird when you think about it all the top terrans kinda slumped (cept Maru) and we got 3 new top zergs in a few months.
If I was SSL I'd gather every Kong on a call. Get Yellow, Marineking, Stork, Jangbi, Fantasy, Naniwa, Mana, Symbol, Squirtle and ask who will lose if Dream plays soO in the finals.
On July 12 2015 17:01 stuchiu wrote: If I was SSL I'd gather every Kong on a call. Get Yellow, Marineking, Stork, Jangbi, Fantasy, Naniwa, Mana, Symbol, Squirtle and ask who will lose if Dream plays soO in the finals.
On July 12 2015 17:01 stuchiu wrote: If I was SSL I'd gather every Kong on a call. Get Yellow, Marineking, Stork, Jangbi, Fantasy, Naniwa, Mana, Symbol, Squirtle and ask who will lose if Dream plays soO in the finals.
On July 12 2015 17:01 stuchiu wrote: If I was SSL I'd gather every Kong on a call. Get Yellow, Marineking, Stork, Jangbi, Fantasy, Naniwa, Mana, Symbol, Squirtle and ask who will lose if Dream plays soO in the finals.
Does Jangbi count as a kong?
He won his OSLs against another Kong.
If you are a step above a kong does that not make you a king?
On July 12 2015 17:01 stuchiu wrote: If I was SSL I'd gather every Kong on a call. Get Yellow, Marineking, Stork, Jangbi, Fantasy, Naniwa, Mana, Symbol, Squirtle and ask who will lose if Dream plays soO in the finals.
Does Jangbi count as a kong?
He won his OSLs against another Kong.
Kongs helping each other out, might repeat itself today.
On July 12 2015 17:01 stuchiu wrote: If I was SSL I'd gather every Kong on a call. Get Yellow, Marineking, Stork, Jangbi, Fantasy, Naniwa, Mana, Symbol, Squirtle and ask who will lose if Dream plays soO in the finals.
Does Jangbi count as a kong?
He won his OSLs against another Kong.
Kong's helping each other out, might repeat itself today.
Yellow made sure his sons had each other to escape Konghood.
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Your vote: Dark vs Dream Game 2
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On July 12 2015 17:07 Die4Ever wrote: this match is already infinitely better than Flash vs soO
Cause players are even remotely close.
Also no mech game.
Mech in sc2 is a sign of Fear.
In general? That's bollocks.
However, it was pretty clear that Flash didn't want to play a "standard" game against soO judging from all his builds. And even soO said "Flash is best with his greedy 3-CC styles but since he played so cheesy and aggressive I was surprised I even lost a map." So with Flash today, sure he probably wasn't confident against soO at all. Then again, few Terrans would be.
On July 12 2015 17:07 Die4Ever wrote: this match is already infinitely better than Flash vs soO
Cause players are even remotely close.
Also no mech game.
Mech in sc2 is a sign of Fear.
In general? That's bollocks.
However, it was pretty clear that Flash didn't want to play a "standard" game against soO judging from all his builds. And even soO said "Flash is best with his greedy 3-CC styles but since he played so cheesy and aggressive I was surprised I even lost a map." So with Flash today, sure he probably wasn't confident against soO at all. Then again, few Terrans would be.
By my count only 2 Terrans would be confident, Maru and Dream.
On July 12 2015 17:07 Die4Ever wrote: this match is already infinitely better than Flash vs soO
Cause players are even remotely close.
Also no mech game.
Mech in sc2 is a sign of Fear.
In general? That's bollocks.
However, it was pretty clear that Flash didn't want to play a "standard" game against soO judging from all his builds. And even soO said "Flash is best with his greedy 3-CC styles but since he played so cheesy and aggressive I was surprised I even lost a map." So with Flash today, sure he probably wasn't confident against soO at all. Then again, few Terrans would be.
By my count only 2 Terrans would be confident, Maru and Dream.
They're always confident but they'd lose anyway. Unless it's a GSL final.
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Poll: Dark vs Dream Game 4
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Poll: Dark vs Dream Game 5
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1)
11%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
11%
★★★ - Good game (4)
44%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (2)
22%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
11%
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Your vote: Dark vs Dream Game 5
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On July 12 2015 17:25 Silvana wrote: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS
You suck, you wished a shitty final match upon all of us and then pretended you'd go to bed.
You see, when I'm cheering against a player they always end up winning. I wanted Dream to lose so I fooled the Starcraft gods saying I was going to bed and it worked perfectly :D
Oh shit boys, you know what that means? An offline Korean tournament will be won by a SKT Zerg. I repeat. An offline Korean tournament will be won by a SKT Zerg. Oo
So far in solo leagues soO won: MLG vs Proleague, 2014 Player of the Year award and Leifeng Cup Monthly finals recently, they aren't starleagues but they're solid
On July 12 2015 17:26 Highways wrote: Dark is scared to beat Dream straight up.
Dream was so behind in game 2 and almost won it.
ZvZ lol no one is gonna watch this.
He did lose to Dark in straight up game in G2.
He lost 13 SCVs to early roaches.
Well, it's a way to put on aggression. You will never be to keep up if you just let Terran do their thing.
Rushing to roaches hoping to kill a CC first is not a straight up game, come on now.
Dream came out ahead from that. He had 3CCs and was actually ahead in SCVs by the time Dark took his third and also killed 5 drones with hellions. Then his uogrades were faster as well. They were still quite even but Dream was slightly ahead. The only issue was that his build got a bit thrown off, he was going into hellion banshee and had to abandon it.
Dark vs soOin in KeSPA Cup 2 finals. Dark has the #3 Headband.soO has the #2 Headband. Dark is at 67.74% Blizzcon Chances, with a 54.01% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 77.07%, or 56.8% if they lose. soO is at 5.81% Blizzcon Chances, with a 45.99% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 7.32%, or 4.53% if they lose.
Dark vs soOin in KeSPA Cup 2 finals. Dark has the #3 Headband.soO has the #2 Headband. Dark is at 67.74% Blizzcon Chances, with a 54.01% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 77.07%, or 56.8% if they lose. soO is at 5.81% Blizzcon Chances, with a 45.99% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 7.32%, or 4.53% if they lose.
It's so sad to see soO would be at only 7% even with a win T_T
On July 12 2015 18:05 WrathSCII wrote: Since Dark almost lost to FanTaSy, does that mean that FanTaSy > Dream? :D
Also Flash > Dream because he took more maps against soO than Dream did in Leifeng Cup and because he beat Classic. Top 3 Terrans: Flash, Fantasy, Dream.
On July 12 2015 18:05 WrathSCII wrote: Since Dark almost lost to FanTaSy, does that mean that FanTaSy > Dream? :D
Also Flash > Dream because he took more maps against soO than Dream did in Leifeng Cup and because he beat Classic. Top 3 Terrans: Flash, Fantasy, Dream.
On July 12 2015 18:05 WrathSCII wrote: Since Dark almost lost to FanTaSy, does that mean that FanTaSy > Dream? :D
Also Flash > Dream because he took more maps against soO than Dream did in Leifeng Cup and because he beat Classic. Top 3 Terrans: Flash, Fantasy, Dream.
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Your vote: Grand Finals Game 1
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Your vote: Grand Finals Game 2
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On July 12 2015 18:34 OtherWorld wrote: Hatch first from Dark on Dashund Terminal, he has balls or really knows soO Oo
is it actually bad? ground travel distance should be enough to have an easy hold vs any pool later than 9
I dunno, I never manages to hold 9-10 pools with hatch first whatever the map, so doing it on D&T where the rush distance is so short sounds suicidal to me?
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31%
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Your vote: Grand Finals Game 4
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On July 12 2015 18:56 Keeemy wrote: Did soO plan that whole thing, throwing his lings just to bait an all-in from Dark? That's craaazy
He read the baneling allin and knew that was the only cost effective engagement he would have with those lings once he walled and banes were out. Besides it frees up supply so he can invest every single mineral in roaches for the hold.
On July 12 2015 18:56 Keeemy wrote: Did soO plan that whole thing, throwing his lings just to bait an all-in from Dark? That's craaazy
He read the baneling allin and knew that was the only cost effective engagement he would have with those lings once he walled and banes were out. Besides it frees up supply so he can invest every single mineral in roaches for the hold.
Dark wouldn't have made that all-in if soO didn't throw all his lings away.
On July 12 2015 18:56 Keeemy wrote: Did soO plan that whole thing, throwing his lings just to bait an all-in from Dark? That's craaazy
He read the baneling allin and knew that was the only cost effective engagement he would have with those lings once he walled and banes were out. Besides it frees up supply so he can invest every single mineral in roaches for the hold.
Dark wouldn't have made that all-in if soO didn't throw all his lings away.
Wasn't the bane nest on the way while soO was chasing across the map?
On July 12 2015 18:56 Keeemy wrote: Did soO plan that whole thing, throwing his lings just to bait an all-in from Dark? That's craaazy
He read the baneling allin and knew that was the only cost effective engagement he would have with those lings once he walled and banes were out. Besides it frees up supply so he can invest every single mineral in roaches for the hold.
Dark wouldn't have made that all-in if soO didn't throw all his lings away.
Wasn't the bane nest on the way while soO was chasing across the map?
yes, and lings were making. It was an all-in anyway, what soO bought was scouting information and forcing the lings back so they couldnt morph banes in proxy positions.
His move to attack with slow lings both times was theoretically the best move possible both times.
On July 12 2015 18:56 Keeemy wrote: Did soO plan that whole thing, throwing his lings just to bait an all-in from Dark? That's craaazy
He read the baneling allin and knew that was the only cost effective engagement he would have with those lings once he walled and banes were out. Besides it frees up supply so he can invest every single mineral in roaches for the hold.
Dark wouldn't have made that all-in if soO didn't throw all his lings away.
Wasn't the bane nest on the way while soO was chasing across the map?
yes, and lings were making. It was an all-in anyway, what soO bought was scouting information and forcing the lings back so they couldnt morph banes in proxy positions.
His move to attack with slow lings both times was theoretically the best move possible both times.
On July 12 2015 19:06 Ej_ wrote: oh I fogot to ask, did soO burst Flash's bubble viciously?
Flash played some pretty cheesy and weird strats that didn't work out. Tbh he kinda threw one of the games by not getting Yamato Cannons. Was closer than I expected but still not really close.
Also losing to the eventual champion means no shame for losing.
On July 12 2015 19:12 Morbidius wrote: I love Flash, but how does he even win so much in Starcraft 2? His micro is one of the sloppiest i've ever seen.
On July 12 2015 19:12 Morbidius wrote: I love Flash, but how does he even win so much in Starcraft 2? His micro is one of the sloppiest i've ever seen.
Some players allow Flash to macro for no apparent reason. And Flash still has one of the best macro in the world if uncontested.
On July 12 2015 19:12 Morbidius wrote: I love Flash, but how does he even win so much in Starcraft 2? His micro is one of the sloppiest i've ever seen.
Macro most Terrans can't even dream of.
Also in this KeSPA Cup specifically, better preparation for the maps than pretty much anyone else.
So it looks like as if Kespa Cup Season 1 gave herO the finally first Korean title of his career and Season 2 will give soO finally the first title he so deserves.
I think Kespa Cup gives the best storylines so far :0
On July 12 2015 19:12 Morbidius wrote: I love Flash, but how does he even win so much in Starcraft 2? His micro is one of the sloppiest i've ever seen.
OMG One year and a half since soO started being a god One year and a half during which he deserved so many titles and finally soOjwa is going to get one :DDD That's so good I can't believe it, so much emotion
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No player is more deserving to win than soO I am so happy for him Hope Dark doesn't take this too hard because he will win one day as well because reaching the finals twice already in korea legitimises him as a top tier zerg and I hope people see him thos way! And goddamn SKT what a year so far! And their current form.makes me soooooO happy!! SOO! SOO! SOO! SKT! SKT! SKT!
soO still needs 1700+ points to get into Blizzcon, he needs to win either GSL or SSL, or finish in Ro4 in both. Unless he gets to play some international tournaments for easy points.
On July 12 2015 19:39 digmouse wrote: soO still needs 1700+ points to get into Blizzcon, he needs to win either GSL or SSL, or finish in Ro4 in both. Unless he gets to play some international tournaments for easy points.
He's out of SSL Has to win GSL + KeSPA Cup #3 and maybe some other international one
On July 12 2015 19:39 digmouse wrote: soO still needs 1700+ points to get into Blizzcon, he needs to win either GSL or SSL, or finish in Ro4 in both. Unless he gets to play some international tournaments for easy points.
He's out of SSL Has to win GSL + KeSPA Cup #3 and maybe some other international one
Then he has to win GSL or reach finals in GSL and add some points from elsewhere.
On July 12 2015 19:39 digmouse wrote: soO still needs 1700+ points to get into Blizzcon, he needs to win either GSL or SSL, or finish in Ro4 in both. Unless he gets to play some international tournaments for easy points.
He's out of SSL Has to win GSL + KeSPA Cup #3 and maybe some other international one
if soO wins GSL then he goes up to 94.76%, 2nd place would put him at 24.11%
On July 12 2015 19:39 digmouse wrote: soO still needs 1700+ points to get into Blizzcon, he needs to win either GSL or SSL, or finish in Ro4 in both. Unless he gets to play some international tournaments for easy points.
He's out of SSL Has to win GSL + KeSPA Cup #3 and maybe some other international one
if soO wins GSL then he goes up to 94.76%, 2nd place would put him at 24.11%
Is your website missing KeSPA Cup 3? can't find it anywhere also, typo on gamescon should be "gamescom"
On July 12 2015 19:39 digmouse wrote: soO still needs 1700+ points to get into Blizzcon, he needs to win either GSL or SSL, or finish in Ro4 in both. Unless he gets to play some international tournaments for easy points.
He's out of SSL Has to win GSL + KeSPA Cup #3 and maybe some other international one
if soO wins GSL then he goes up to 94.76%, 2nd place would put him at 24.11%
Is your website missing KeSPA Cup 3? can't find it anywhere also, typo on gamescon should be "gamescom"
On July 12 2015 19:39 digmouse wrote: soO still needs 1700+ points to get into Blizzcon, he needs to win either GSL or SSL, or finish in Ro4 in both. Unless he gets to play some international tournaments for easy points.
He's out of SSL Has to win GSL + KeSPA Cup #3 and maybe some other international one
if soO wins GSL then he goes up to 94.76%, 2nd place would put him at 24.11%
Is your website missing KeSPA Cup 3? can't find it anywhere also, typo on gamescon should be "gamescom"
On July 12 2015 19:39 digmouse wrote: soO still needs 1700+ points to get into Blizzcon, he needs to win either GSL or SSL, or finish in Ro4 in both. Unless he gets to play some international tournaments for easy points.
He's out of SSL Has to win GSL + KeSPA Cup #3 and maybe some other international one
if soO wins GSL then he goes up to 94.76%, 2nd place would put him at 24.11%
Is your website missing KeSPA Cup 3? can't find it anywhere also, typo on gamescon should be "gamescom"
Is it confirmed to have a season 3?
I thought they said it was gonna be 3 cups when it first announced
On July 12 2015 19:39 digmouse wrote: soO still needs 1700+ points to get into Blizzcon, he needs to win either GSL or SSL, or finish in Ro4 in both. Unless he gets to play some international tournaments for easy points.
He's out of SSL Has to win GSL + KeSPA Cup #3 and maybe some other international one
if soO wins GSL then he goes up to 94.76%, 2nd place would put him at 24.11%
Is your website missing KeSPA Cup 3? can't find it anywhere also, typo on gamescon should be "gamescom"
KeSPA Cup 3 isn't officially announced on the WCS page so I haven't listed it yet. If it does give WCS points then that'll help the finalists of GSL and SSL a bit if they advance at least 1 round (if they get seeded again). The placeholder tournaments make it so missing tournaments isn't a big issue though.
Didn't MK lose his Kong title by winning MLG though? I think with the abundance of tournaments in sc2 it becomes harder to say what should count as breaking the king curse. Like imo winning a kr premier title that was just as stacked basically as a SL gives him the right to not be a kong. But if we say he needs to win a SL to no longer be a kong does thant mean Dark isn't a kong due to not getting 2nd olaces in a starleague
On July 12 2015 20:45 GumBa wrote: Didn't MK lose his Kong title by winning MLG though? I think with the abundance of tournaments in sc2 it becomes harder to say what should count as breaking the king curse. Like imo winning a kr premier title that was just as stacked basically as a SL gives him the right to not be a kong. But if we say he needs to win a SL to no longer be a kong does thant mean Dark isn't a kong due to not getting 2nd olaces in a starleague
To me those are special tourneys, kind of like how yellow wont special cups but not regular leagues and he is the King of Kongs.
On July 13 2015 02:38 Caihead wrote: Flash why you no yamato
Literally the main reason he lost on Terraform T_T. Either he forgot or he thought he wouldn't need it (before that god awful engagement with soO's godly blinding clouds).
On July 13 2015 01:11 lolfail9001 wrote: Wait, did soO break the Kong curse?
It's a special tournament, so no, if anything he made it even stronger.
Kespa cup is not a special tournament...
It is a normal Tier 2 tournament
Invit based on top finishing players in the starleagues and proleague, with only a handful of qualifiers, is pretty much the definition of a special, certainly in terms of the kong legacy.
On July 13 2015 01:11 lolfail9001 wrote: Wait, did soO break the Kong curse?
It's a special tournament, so no, if anything he made it even stronger.
Kespa cup is not a special tournament...
It is a normal Tier 2 tournament
Invit based on top finishing players in the starleagues and proleague, with only a handful of qualifiers, is pretty much the definition of a special, certainly in terms of the kong legacy.
Simply from a quality of players standpoint it's probably harder than the recent gsl. The invited players are typically stronger and going through the qualifiers is harder. soO even had to go through zest. Only way it is "easier" is less preparation time.
On July 13 2015 01:11 lolfail9001 wrote: Wait, did soO break the Kong curse?
It's a special tournament, so no, if anything he made it even stronger.
Kespa cup is not a special tournament...
It is a normal Tier 2 tournament
Invit based on top finishing players in the starleagues and proleague, with only a handful of qualifiers, is pretty much the definition of a special, certainly in terms of the kong legacy.
Simply from a quality of players standpoint it's probably harder than the recent gsl. The invited players are typically stronger and going through the qualifiers is harder. soO even had to go through zest. Only way it is "easier" is less preparation time.
I think that it can still be classified as a "special event" regardless on the skill of the players. Most would probably agree that HSC can be a "special event" yet it was arguably equivalent to the latest WCS season.
On July 13 2015 01:11 lolfail9001 wrote: Wait, did soO break the Kong curse?
It's a special tournament, so no, if anything he made it even stronger.
Kespa cup is not a special tournament...
It is a normal Tier 2 tournament
Invit based on top finishing players in the starleagues and proleague, with only a handful of qualifiers, is pretty much the definition of a special, certainly in terms of the kong legacy.
Simply from a quality of players standpoint it's probably harder than the recent gsl. The invited players are typically stronger and going through the qualifiers is harder. soO even had to go through zest. Only way it is "easier" is less preparation time.
I think that it can still be classified as a "special event" regardless on the skill of the players. Most would probably agree that HSC can be a "special event" yet it was arguably equivalent to the latest WCS season.
To me, a main criteria of a Starleague is its long-drawn out preparation format with group and knockout rounds (aside from being stacked with top players from the start). Which is why arguably MLG, HSC, WCG and yes, KeSPA Cup are all special tournaments. The only close exception to the rule is the Super Tournament and Blizzcon.
(The Kong curse is strictly a Starleague thing. That's not to say that all the special tournaments can't be as high level as Starleague.)
On July 13 2015 01:11 lolfail9001 wrote: Wait, did soO break the Kong curse?
It's a special tournament, so no, if anything he made it even stronger.
Kespa cup is not a special tournament...
It is a normal Tier 2 tournament
Invit based on top finishing players in the starleagues and proleague, with only a handful of qualifiers, is pretty much the definition of a special, certainly in terms of the kong legacy.
Simply from a quality of players standpoint it's probably harder than the recent gsl. The invited players are typically stronger and going through the qualifiers is harder. soO even had to go through zest. Only way it is "easier" is less preparation time.
I think that it can still be classified as a "special event" regardless on the skill of the players. Most would probably agree that HSC can be a "special event" yet it was arguably equivalent to the latest WCS season.
To me, a main criteria of a Starleague is its long-drawn out preparation format with group and knockout rounds (aside from being stacked with top players from the start). Which is why arguably MLG, HSC, WCG and yes, KeSPA Cup are all special tournaments. The only close exception to the rule is the Super Tournament and Blizzcon.
(The Kong curse is strictly a Starleague thing. That's not to say that all the special tournaments can't be as high level as Starleague.)
You forgot to add Blizzcon, IEM, DH, HSC, Gfinity to special tournaments
On July 13 2015 01:11 lolfail9001 wrote: Wait, did soO break the Kong curse?
It's a special tournament, so no, if anything he made it even stronger.
Kespa cup is not a special tournament...
It is a normal Tier 2 tournament
Invit based on top finishing players in the starleagues and proleague, with only a handful of qualifiers, is pretty much the definition of a special, certainly in terms of the kong legacy.
Simply from a quality of players standpoint it's probably harder than the recent gsl. The invited players are typically stronger and going through the qualifiers is harder. soO even had to go through zest. Only way it is "easier" is less preparation time.
For people who actually think Kong is about beating good players or earning money, here's a link to a special event that Yellow (the original kong) won: 2005 Snickers All-Stars. Insane line-up and massive prize pool, but still only a special event.
TvZ has actually become incredibly repetitive and boring. I feel like I'm seeing the same shit over and over again. It just hit me in the middle of Dark vs Dream that my favorite matchup possibly just became one of my least favorite matchup. It may just be these two players...
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