INnoVation vs Snute Game 1 INnoVation vs Snute Game 2 INnoVation vs Snute Game 3 INnoVation vs Snute Game 4 INnoVation vs Snute Game 5 Rain vs TooDming Game 1 Rain vs TooDming Game 2 Rain vs TooDming Game 3 Rain vs TooDming Game 4 Rain vs TooDming Game 5 Life vs aLive Game 1 Life vs aLive Game 2 Life vs aLive Game 3 Life vs aLive Game 4 Life vs aLive Game 5
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
14%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
21 total votes
Your vote: Recommend INnoVation vs Snute Game 1 ?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended gam (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend INnoVation vs Snute Game 2 ?
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (11)
73%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (2)
13%
★★★★- Highly recommended gam (1)
7%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
7%
★★★- Good game (0)
0%
15 total votes
Your vote: Recommend INnoVation vs Snute Game 2 ?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended gam (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend INnoVation vs Snute Game 3 ?
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (5)
56%
★★★- Good game (3)
33%
★★★★- Highly recommended gam (1)
11%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
9 total votes
Your vote: Recommend INnoVation vs Snute Game 3 ?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended gam (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend INnoVation vs Snute Game 4 ?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (2)
40%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
40%
★★★- Good game (1)
20%
★★★★- Highly recommended gam (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
5 total votes
Your vote: Recommend INnoVation vs Snute Game 4 ?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended gam (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend INnoVation vs Snute Game 5 ?
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
67%
★★★- Good game (1)
33%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★★★- Highly recommended gam (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
3 total votes
Your vote: Recommend INnoVation vs Snute Game 5 ?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended gam (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
25%
★★★- Good game (0)
0%
★★★★- Highly recommended gam (0)
0%
8 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Life vs aLiveGame 1 ?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended gam (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Life vs aLiveGame 2 ?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (2)
40%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
20%
★★★- Good game (1)
20%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
20%
★★★★- Highly recommended gam (0)
0%
5 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Life vs aLiveGame 2 ?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended gam (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Life vs aLiveGame 3 ?
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (5)
71%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (2)
29%
★★★- Good game (0)
0%
★★★★- Highly recommended gam (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
7 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Life vs aLiveGame 3 ?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended gam (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Life vs aLive Game 4 ?
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
60%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
40%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (0)
0%
★★★★- Highly recommended gam (0)
0%
5 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Life vs aLive Game 4 ?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended gam (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Life vs aLive Game 5 ?
★★★- Good game (3)
75%
★★★★- Highly recommended gam (1)
25%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
4 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Life vs aLive Game 5 ?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended gam (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
:D but Wolf is the best name.. will name my child Wolf aswell.. somebody knows if Wolf speaks German? I mean it's like 100% clear that he has German roots.
Wolf is pretty rare as a name, even in Germany. Most people are called Wolfgang or Wolf-"second prename" (Wolf-Rüdiger for example) and even that name is really old. A cool name for sure, but maybe I would go with Welf instead .
Oh and the Snute vs Inno hype is so high, almost forgot we get to see Life afterwards. So sick .
The only way Snute has a chance is if Inno has become cocky after he find out he will play vs a foreigner.Inno didn't practice or studied Snute cause of the cocky attitude mentioned above and he will get stomped 3-0.This is purely theoretical thinking..but what if?...what if?. Game 1: Snute goes for a ling bane bust (unscouted) vs a 3CC build Game 2 : Snute goes for a 1 base 5-7 roach push(unscouted) vs a 3CC build Game 3: Snute goes for a 14-14 ling all in vs proxy racks. Bang 3-0 Snute.
The real deal?.... Bang... Inno 3-0......but what if? what if?
I hope Snute has prepared. Also what do you guys suggest between: - Stop following the LR and everything right now, and try to watch the VODs later on without spoilers - Follow everything now and watch the VODs later anyway
On July 10 2015 18:31 LoneYoShi wrote: I hope Snute has prepared. Also what do you guys suggest between: - Stop following the LR and everything right now, and try to watch the VODs later on without spoilers - Follow everything now and watch the VODs later anyway
I would stop and watch the vods I think. But then you have to avoid reddit, twitter etc. too.
On July 10 2015 18:31 LoneYoShi wrote: I hope Snute has prepared. Also what do you guys suggest between: - Stop following the LR and everything right now, and try to watch the VODs later on without spoilers - Follow everything now and watch the VODs later anyway
I would stop and watch the vods I think. But then you have to avoid reddit, twitter etc. too.
I don't reddit or tweet, so that shouldn't be too hard. I just have to avoid TL and facebook... But waiting is hard. Also, if Snute doesn't get demolished and wins or it's close, i'd miss all the hype. Damn, working sucks.
(I'm glad Kespa Cup days 2 & 3 happen this weekend, at least I'll be able to watch those !)
On July 10 2015 18:36 TameNaken wrote: Korean casters mentioned the TL 3-0 Alive Life prediction. Now they think we're weird.
Haha really? That's awesome if they read those predictions.
The korean caster thats on the right of SSL broadcasts mentions the TL predictions for almost every SSL group. Sometimes they talk about the differences in opinions that can form when your main focus is foreign tournaments instead of Korean tournaments, and things like that.
Snute vs INnoVationin in StarLeague Season 3 round of 24. Snute is at 16.03% Blizzcon Chances, with a 38.34% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 28.3%, or 8.4% if they lose. INnoVation is at 47.27% Blizzcon Chances, with a 61.66% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 60.55%, or 25.9% if they lose.
Life vs aLivein in StarLeague Season 3 round of 24. Life is at 100% Blizzcon Chances, with a 64.37% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 100%, or 100% if they lose. aLive is at 0.07% Blizzcon Chances, with a 35.63% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 0.18%, or 0.01% if they lose.
Rain has a 11.76% chance to win ----going from 100% to 100% if they get 1st, or 100% if they don't. Maru has a 10.02% chance to win ----going from 100% to 100% if they get 1st, or 100% if they don't. Classic has a 9.24% chance to win ----going from 99.97% to 100% if they get 1st, or 99.97% if they don't. Zest has a 8.19% chance to win ----going from 98.33% to 100% if they get 1st, or 98.18% if they don't. sOs has a 6.22% chance to win ----going from 57.38% to 100% if they get 1st, or 54.55% if they don't. + Show Spoiler [More Winning Chances] +
Dream has a 6.08% chance to win ----going from 99.99% to 100% if they get 1st, or 99.99% if they don't. herO has a 5.9% chance to win ----going from 100% to 100% if they get 1st, or 100% if they don't. HyuN has a 5.4% chance to win ----going from 33.08% to 99.7% if they get 1st, or 29.28% if they don't. Stats has a 5.33% chance to win ----going from 41.75% to 100% if they get 1st, or 38.48% if they don't. ByuL has a 5.09% chance to win ----going from 95.94% to 100% if they get 1st, or 95.72% if they don't. INnoVation has a 4.93% chance to win ----going from 47.27% to 100% if they get 1st, or 44.53% if they don't. Dear has a 4.92% chance to win ----going from 22.8% to 99.47% if they get 1st, or 18.84% if they don't. Life has a 4.78% chance to win ----going from 100% to 100% if they get 1st, or 100% if they don't. TY has a 4.14% chance to win ----going from 14.4% to 99.53% if they get 1st, or 10.73% if they don't. Rogue has a 4.06% chance to win ----going from 72.79% to 100% if they get 1st, or 71.64% if they don't. MyuNgSiK has a 1.85% chance to win ----going from 14.81% to 99.83% if they get 1st, or 13.21% if they don't. Snute has a 1.57% chance to win ----going from 16.03% to 99.83% if they get 1st, or 14.69% if they don't. aLive has a 0.52% chance to win ----going from 0.07% to 6.99% if they get 1st, or 0.03% if they don't.
On July 10 2015 18:36 TameNaken wrote: Korean casters mentioned the TL 3-0 Alive Life prediction. Now they think we're weird.
Haha really? That's awesome if they read those predictions.
The korean caster thats on the right of SSL broadcasts mentions the TL predictions for almost every SSL group. Sometimes they talk about the differences in opinions that can form when your main focus is foreign tournaments instead of Korean tournaments, and things like that.
Sounds interesting. The kind of things that makes me wish I'd understand korean...
Also GumBa, since when have you stopped being salty and sour about INno's play and reverted to fanboying hardcore ?
On July 10 2015 18:36 TameNaken wrote: Korean casters mentioned the TL 3-0 Alive Life prediction. Now they think we're weird.
Haha really? That's awesome if they read those predictions.
The korean caster thats on the right of SSL broadcasts mentions the TL predictions for almost every SSL group. Sometimes they talk about the differences in opinions that can form when your main focus is foreign tournaments instead of Korean tournaments, and things like that.
Sounds interesting. The kind of things that makes me wish I'd understand korean...
Also GumBa, since when have you stopped being salty and sour about INno's play and reverted to fanboying hardcore ?
A lot of it was just joking but once he stopped playing like a foreigner
On July 10 2015 18:47 Heartland wrote: I am not a zerg expert by any means, but wasn't Snute's build a strongly anti-Hellbat build that made him get a later Lair and late mutas?
he used to play 1-gas roaches, but with a baneling opening it's just weird to get a late lair
On July 10 2015 18:47 Heartland wrote: I am not a zerg expert by any means, but wasn't Snute's build a strongly anti-Hellbat build that made him get a later Lair and late mutas?
he used to play 1-gas roaches, but with a baneling opening it's just weird to get a late lair
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
14%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
21 total votes
Your vote: Recommend INnoVation vs Snute Game 1 ?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended gam (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On July 10 2015 19:02 Circumstance wrote: No matter who's playing, I have to say that this was a pretty damn fun game.
really? I thought there was basically nothing happening and then Snute just couldn't do a lot of damage and the game ended without Innovation even attacking.
On July 10 2015 19:00 rotta wrote: A 1000 more viewing GSL? :O
PvP more exciting than TvZ!
Yesterday SSL had more viewers at every point of time afaik. Kinda strange, I would have though a Foreigner would make for a larger difference but apparently it doesn't.
On July 10 2015 19:00 rotta wrote: A 1000 more viewing GSL? :O
PvP more exciting than TvZ!
Yesterday SSL had more viewers at every point of time afaik. Kinda strange, I would have though a Foreigner would make for a larger difference but apparently it doesn't.
On July 10 2015 19:02 Circumstance wrote: No matter who's playing, I have to say that this was a pretty damn fun game.
Really? zerg being helpless in the lategame is fun for some people I guess. I don't know why vaani is still in the mappool since turtleling is too strong on it
On July 10 2015 19:00 rotta wrote: A 1000 more viewing GSL? :O
PvP more exciting than TvZ!
Yesterday SSL had more viewers at every point of time afaik. Kinda strange, I would have though a Foreigner would make for a larger difference but apparently it doesn't.
On July 10 2015 19:00 rotta wrote: A 1000 more viewing GSL? :O
PvP more exciting than TvZ!
Yesterday SSL had more viewers at every point of time afaik. Kinda strange, I would have though a Foreigner would make for a larger difference but apparently it doesn't.
On July 10 2015 19:02 Circumstance wrote: No matter who's playing, I have to say that this was a pretty damn fun game.
really? I thought there was basically nothing happening and then Snute just couldn't do a lot of damage and the game ended without Innovation even attacking.
Its not Snute's problem, every zerg has this problem since SH nerf.
Y'all making fun of Snute for that 11 viper into his army, which yes was stupid, but I think nobody expected Innovation to actually mass BCs. I think the Vipers would have made sense against ravens. Up to that point Snute was rather dealing really well with Innovation's mech. I'm actually more afraid for him if he goes bio, Not sure Snute can keep up with the robot mechanics. Go Snute tho!
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (11)
73%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (2)
13%
★★★★- Highly recommended gam (1)
7%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
7%
★★★- Good game (0)
0%
15 total votes
Your vote: Recommend INnoVation vs Snute Game 2 ?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended gam (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
At this point i'm pretty convinced the only reason korean leagues invite foreigners is because they can't directly give walkovers to certain players because that would look stupid
Damn, pretty embarassing for TL. I wished Snute didn't accept the invitation. Now koreans will look upon TL. TL had such a good reputation in Korea. Snute is ruining it.
On July 10 2015 19:15 ptbl wrote: Damn, pretty embarassing for TL. I wished Snute didn't accept the invitation. Now koreans will look upon TL. TL had such a good reputation in Korea. Snute is ruining it.
On July 10 2015 19:15 BlackCompany wrote: At this point i'm pretty convinced the only reason korean leagues invite foreigners is because they can't directly give walkovers to certain players because that would look stupid
Thanks to that WCS scheme some people actually think that there are foreigners in the world top50
e: Maybe its needed for the longlivity of sc2 i guess
On July 10 2015 19:16 GumBa wrote: I think Snute got an unlucky draw. INno is just a league ahead. Someone like aLive would be way more doable and I would like Snute to do well.
Yea, he would've stood a much better chance against basically any Zerg and most Protoss too.
On July 10 2015 19:15 ptbl wrote: Damn, pretty embarassing for TL. I wished Snute didn't accept the invitation. Now koreans will look upon TL. TL had such a good reputation in Korea. Snute is ruining it.
On July 10 2015 19:15 ptbl wrote: Damn, pretty embarassing for TL. I wished Snute didn't accept the invitation. Now koreans will look upon TL. TL had such a good reputation in Korea. Snute is ruining it.
On July 10 2015 19:15 BlackCompany wrote: At this point i'm pretty convinced the only reason korean leagues invite foreigners is because they can't directly give walkovers to certain players because that would look stupid
Thanks to that WCS scheme some people actually think that there are foreigners in the world top50
e: Maybe its needed for the longlivity of sc2 i guess
Of course there are foreigners in the top50. If you think that there are 50 koreans on the level of innovation or better, than you're delusional...
Someone like True or Terminator would have been an easier opponent for snute, and those two are currently also in the wcs top 50.
On July 10 2015 19:14 Musicus wrote: Both games the build orders were just really bad for Snute .
Seems like Snute hasn't studies the way innovation plays. Maybe he took this as a vacation?
Of course not, but how much time did he really have between HSC and flying to Korea?
Arent there people to do this kind of research, like the coach or teammates?
what should they tell him? "Innovation is going to go mech on Vaani 100%!" Lol, Innovation is not a one-trick pony. Good Terrans play both Mech and Bio. You can't know without scouting and in both games innovation very cleverly put the clues out so that it looked like the opposite of what he was doing.
On July 10 2015 19:16 GumBa wrote: I think Snute got an unlucky draw. INno is just a league ahead. Someone like aLive would be way more doable and I would like Snute to do well.
I don't know man.....one league ahead is a bit to much in my opinion...Snute is not playing his regular shit....game 2 was a stomp but i'm optimistic for game 3 and beyond...
On July 10 2015 19:15 ptbl wrote: Damn, pretty embarassing for TL. I wished Snute didn't accept the invitation. Now koreans will look upon TL. TL had such a good reputation in Korea. Snute is ruining it.
snute is ruining TL's rep in korea for the one time he shows up? Not Taeja or HerO who have been complete no-shows in Korea all year long? Lmao get out of here.
On July 10 2015 19:15 BlackCompany wrote: At this point i'm pretty convinced the only reason korean leagues invite foreigners is because they can't directly give walkovers to certain players because that would look stupid
Thanks to that WCS scheme some people actually think that there are foreigners in the world top50
e: Maybe its needed for the longlivity of sc2 i guess
I think foreigners can very realisticly be in the top 50, just not for that long. Besides Stephano and Naniwa (and partially Huk, Jinro etc i guess) it has always only been one or two good tournament runs and then back into line of "kinda good but not compared to koreans".
On July 10 2015 19:21 ptbl wrote: Well, Liquid's sc2 division has been a dissapointment lately. Homestory cup and now today. Hopefully, Liquid's CSGO makes up for at ESWC in montreal.
If Snute takes 1 game, I will consider it a success.
On July 10 2015 19:15 ptbl wrote: Damn, pretty embarassing for TL. I wished Snute didn't accept the invitation. Now koreans will look upon TL. TL had such a good reputation in Korea. Snute is ruining it.
snute is ruining TL's rep in korea for the one time he shows up? Not Taeja or HerO who have been complete no-shows in Korea all year long? Lmao get out of here.
Yeah man :D TLs reputation is already so bad in Korean... TaeJa lost vs whom in Code B? Was hilarious when I saw. So crappy.. but when the main SC2 page doesn't even care about SC2 anymore and signs new Koreans.. you know the rest..
On July 10 2015 19:21 ptbl wrote: Well, Liquid's sc2 division has been a dissapointment lately. Homestory cup and now today. Hopefully, Liquid's CSGO makes up for at ESWC in montreal.
If Snute takes 1 game, I will consider it a success.
On July 10 2015 19:21 ptbl wrote: Well, Liquid's sc2 division has been a dissapointment lately. Homestory cup and now today. Hopefully, Liquid's CSGO makes up for at ESWC in montreal.
If Snute takes 1 game, I will consider it a success.
On July 10 2015 19:25 Kimb3r wrote: HerO even got stomped faster than Snute :D gg
This is becoming really embarassing for TL.... Lol - too bad though!
Yeah losing to the reigning SSL Champion and a former GSL champion is so fucking embarassing it can't even be put into words. I think they should collectively retire!
On July 10 2015 19:25 Kimb3r wrote: HerO even got stomped faster than Snute :D gg
This is becoming really embarassing for TL.... Lol - too bad though!
Yeah losing to the reigning SSL Champion and a former GSL champion is so fucking embarassing it can't even be put into words. I think they should collectively retire!
On July 10 2015 19:21 ptbl wrote: Well, Liquid's sc2 division has been a dissapointment lately. Homestory cup and now today. Hopefully, Liquid's CSGO makes up for at ESWC in montreal.
If Snute takes 1 game, I will consider it a success.
Need a dota team
TL.GumBa TL.Pandemona TL.VeeLa TL.TriZen TL.GinGe
HELLOOOOO NAZGUL xD
Ginge and Triten might hold us back with their attitude xP
On July 10 2015 19:21 ptbl wrote: Well, Liquid's sc2 division has been a dissapointment lately. Homestory cup and now today. Hopefully, Liquid's CSGO makes up for at ESWC in montreal.
If Snute takes 1 game, I will consider it a success.
Need a dota team
TL.GumBa TL.Pandemona TL.VeeLa TL.TriZen TL.GinGe
HELLOOOOO NAZGUL xD
Ginge and Triten might hold us back with their attitude xP
Loool Standin.Itze and Standin.Windex np got this!
On July 10 2015 19:21 ptbl wrote: Well, Liquid's sc2 division has been a dissapointment lately. Homestory cup and now today. Hopefully, Liquid's CSGO makes up for at ESWC in montreal.
If Snute takes 1 game, I will consider it a success.
Need a dota team
TL.GumBa TL.Pandemona TL.VeeLa TL.TriZen TL.GinGe
HELLOOOOO NAZGUL xD
Ginge and Triten might hold us back with their attitude xP
Loool Standin.Itze and Standin.Windex np got this!
Itze for Ginge would literally boost our chances by a ton #shotsssssss
On July 10 2015 19:21 ptbl wrote: Well, Liquid's sc2 division has been a dissapointment lately. Homestory cup and now today. Hopefully, Liquid's CSGO makes up for at ESWC in montreal.
If Snute takes 1 game, I will consider it a success.
Need a dota team
TL.GumBa TL.Pandemona TL.VeeLa TL.TriZen TL.GinGe
HELLOOOOO NAZGUL xD
Ginge and Triten might hold us back with their attitude xP
Loool Standin.Itze and Standin.Windex np got this!
Itze for Ginge would literally boost our chances by a ton #shotsssssss
On July 10 2015 19:21 ptbl wrote: Well, Liquid's sc2 division has been a dissapointment lately. Homestory cup and now today. Hopefully, Liquid's CSGO makes up for at ESWC in montreal.
If Snute takes 1 game, I will consider it a success.
Need a dota team
TL.GumBa TL.Pandemona TL.VeeLa TL.TriZen TL.GinGe
HELLOOOOO NAZGUL xD
Ginge and Triten might hold us back with their attitude xP
Loool Standin.Itze and Standin.Windex np got this!
Itze for Ginge would literally boost our chances by a ton #shotsssssss
#firrredddd
Need a stable 4th and 5th m9. Itze too random and windy never plays with us.
Why isn't Snute just doing some Roach Timinings and allways goes for the macro? It is the way to survive but he allways plays the same macro and Inno can just crush him...
On July 10 2015 19:21 ptbl wrote: Well, Liquid's sc2 division has been a dissapointment lately. Homestory cup and now today. Hopefully, Liquid's CSGO makes up for at ESWC in montreal.
If Snute takes 1 game, I will consider it a success.
Need a dota team
TL.GumBa TL.Pandemona TL.VeeLa TL.TriZen TL.GinGe
HELLOOOOO NAZGUL xD
Ginge and Triten might hold us back with their attitude xP
Loool Standin.Itze and Standin.Windex np got this!
Itze for Ginge would literally boost our chances by a ton #shotsssssss
#firrredddd
Need a stable 4th and 5th m9. Itze too random and windy never plays with us.
TriZen and Ginge np, we turn them when u get back off vacation to LutonMecca
On July 10 2015 19:21 ptbl wrote: Well, Liquid's sc2 division has been a dissapointment lately. Homestory cup and now today. Hopefully, Liquid's CSGO makes up for at ESWC in montreal.
If Snute takes 1 game, I will consider it a success.
Need a dota team
TL.GumBa TL.Pandemona TL.VeeLa TL.TriZen TL.GinGe
HELLOOOOO NAZGUL xD
Ginge and Triten might hold us back with their attitude xP
Loool Standin.Itze and Standin.Windex np got this!
Itze for Ginge would literally boost our chances by a ton #shotsssssss
#firrredddd
Need a stable 4th and 5th m9. Itze too random and windy never plays with us.
TriZen and Ginge np, we turn them when u get back off vacation to LutonMecca
They need an intervention. Then we go full tryhard and assign actual roles and go captains mode xP
On July 10 2015 19:32 Schelim wrote: lol how does a ZvZ in potato quality on Code A have more viewers than this?
It doesn't? It's basically the same on twitch with another 600+ viewers on azubu for SSL?
the fact still remains almost as many people would rather watch blurry roach silhouettes run into each other than a sick mech-heavy ZvT between a foreigner and a star player in great quality
On July 10 2015 19:21 ptbl wrote: Well, Liquid's sc2 division has been a dissapointment lately. Homestory cup and now today. Hopefully, Liquid's CSGO makes up for at ESWC in montreal.
If Snute takes 1 game, I will consider it a success.
Need a dota team
TL.GumBa TL.Pandemona TL.VeeLa TL.TriZen TL.GinGe
HELLOOOOO NAZGUL xD
Ginge and Triten might hold us back with their attitude xP
Loool Standin.Itze and Standin.Windex np got this!
Itze for Ginge would literally boost our chances by a ton #shotsssssss
#firrredddd
Need a stable 4th and 5th m9. Itze too random and windy never plays with us.
TriZen and Ginge np, we turn them when u get back off vacation to LutonMecca
They need an intervention. Then we go full tryhard and assign actual roles and go captains mode xP
Lol captains mode stupid doe we draft better in ranked be a good start.
On July 10 2015 19:38 Musicus wrote: So how do you actually beat BCs? I don't think you can right? Inno will just add some ravens if he goes for corruptors.
On July 10 2015 19:38 Musicus wrote: So how do you actually beat BCs? I don't think you can right? Inno will just add some ravens if he goes for corruptors.
11 Vipers + 11 neural parasites: Abduct all, then neural them and right click each of them against themselv
On July 10 2015 19:38 Musicus wrote: So how do you actually beat BCs? I don't think you can right? Inno will just add some ravens if he goes for corruptors.
not with hydras
I don't understand why Snute plays so hydra heavy... that's not what he usually does. And it is not going as it usually does.
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Snute didnt need to fight then, Inno had 0 mining or very little and snute had a spore crawler forest and mining bases he just needed to keep dancing around pulling things with the vipers and drain innos bank then fight. Maybe he thought he was more ahead than he was after taking those bases out?
On July 10 2015 19:43 Lorning wrote: Maybe it's time to stop giving global seeds
idk i would have loved to see Mlord in a TvT or lilbow against a 2nd tier korean. even if the result wouldn't have been different.
The problem is that you can't pick your opponents. I guess Snute would have loved another opponent as well, Mlord and Lilbow would probably have also been defeated easily by a top Code S korean
Hahahahahahha that was even more predictable than a forgg game, and just as retarded and frustrating to watch, I SALUTE YOU DAVID KIM FOR ACTUALLY WANTING THIS
Eventhough he lost 3-0 Snute played very well...game 2 doesn't count as it was a stomp...but game 1 and 3 where pretty close......still late game mech in the hands of Inno is almost invincible...almost...
On July 10 2015 19:38 Musicus wrote: So how do you actually beat BCs? I don't think you can right? Inno will just add some ravens if he goes for corruptors.
11 Vipers + 11 neural parasites: Abduct all, then neural them and right click each of them against themselv
Well that sounds cool in theory but it's not like there are only BCs and I neural doesn't hold that long, you can never neural all BCs at the same time either, many Infestors will die to yamatos immediately after the pulls. Vipers will also die to Vikings and more infstors to tanks moving in.
If you can catch 10 BCs alone and pull them into a spore forest while neuraling them, yes they are beatable of course .
Well I bet if we see Marinelord vs Dark ( best foreign mecher against very very strong Zerg), Dark would make Mech looking rubbish at all. There is a lvl difference between Inno and Snute and I dont know why the global seed allways gets one of the hardes opponents... there would have been way easier targets like Heart. And a Snute against Heart Mech or Heart Bio would have been won by Snute.
On July 10 2015 19:47 curutcis wrote: Eventhough he lost 3-0 Snute played very well...game 2 doesn't count as it was a stomp...but game 1 and 3 where pretty close......still late game mech in the hands of Inno is almost invincible...almost...
Exactly. He played it well, but no way to beat a well played late game mech. Should have done some more damage before.
fungal +5 or +10 dmg to mech and air terran units. Zerg has absolutely nothing since sh nerf. The only one way to win vs t and p is to have infinite units nowadays.
On July 10 2015 19:51 ptbl wrote: I wish Liquid would sign some new sc2 players. It seems like forever since they signed someone. We need some new blood preferably some koreans.
On July 10 2015 19:51 Dingodile wrote: fungal +5 or +10 dmg to mech and air terran units. Zerg has absolutely nothing since sh nerf. The only one way to win vs t and p is to have infinite units nowadays.
On July 10 2015 19:45 Highways wrote: Snute played well that game.
Too bad he was vsing a disgrace strategy in mech.
Zero respect for innovation.
Dude, Inno used game balance in his favor combined with skill and knowledge..that's strategy......YES late game mech is unbeatable vs Zerg....why did Snute let Inno get in that point in the game?....that's the question...
On July 10 2015 19:53 Taf the Ghost wrote: I still find it interesting that Innovation went Mech twice vs a Zerg. Got to give the SKT analysis desk credit for good planning against Snute.
On July 10 2015 19:45 Highways wrote: Snute played well that game.
Too bad he was vsing a disgrace strategy in mech.
Zero respect for innovation.
Dude, Inno used game balance in his favor combined with skill and knowledge..that's strategy......YES late game mech is unbeatable vs Zerg....why did Snute let Inno get in that point in the game?....that's the question...
I cant possibly be alone in wanting to torture people who utter the "dont let them get there" thing lol
On July 10 2015 19:45 Highways wrote: Snute played well that game.
Too bad he was vsing a disgrace strategy in mech.
Zero respect for innovation.
Dude, Inno used game balance in his favor combined with skill and knowledge..that's strategy......YES late game mech is unbeatable vs Zerg....why did Snute let Inno get in that point in the game?....that's the question...
I cant possibly be alone in wanting to torture people who utter the "dont let them get there" thing lol
Ok, I think Snute played very well. I think my emotions got the very best of me. If I take a step back, Snute did better than I expected. Goid job Snute!
On July 10 2015 19:53 Taf the Ghost wrote: I still find it interesting that Innovation went Mech twice vs a Zerg. Got to give the SKT analysis desk credit for good planning against Snute.
I felt it was more I can do whatever I want
The "disrespect the foreigner" move is normally a super-fast cheese. Innovation never did that. I doubt they'd have decided late-game Mech was a "good way" to beat Snute if they weren't worried about losing in other phases. The match planning of the Korean leagues is normally pretty impressive. (And it's normally noticeable when the planning is better than the execution)
On July 10 2015 19:57 GumBa wrote: Snute 3-0ing korean girls though
To be honest he is far above average in terms of handsomeness.
Yeah I think Snute's looks are the dream for many asian girls. He could easily dress up as a prince and everybody would be okay with it, it just fits :D
On July 10 2015 20:00 lichter wrote: tbh alive will likely get stomped worse than snute
aLive has been playing actually rather well (stomped Losira in some quali recently I think) and Life hasn't been looking impressive for quite some time now (esp. vs Terran)
On July 10 2015 19:45 Highways wrote: Snute played well that game.
Too bad he was vsing a disgrace strategy in mech.
Zero respect for innovation.
Dude, Inno used game balance in his favor combined with skill and knowledge..that's strategy......YES late game mech is unbeatable vs Zerg....why did Snute let Inno get in that point in the game?....that's the question...
I cant possibly be alone in wanting to torture people who utter the "dont let them get there" thing lol
Well, the reverse is to whine about balance and stuff which is much,much better......Are u a whiner?....
I feel like the real overlooked MVP unit of the last snute game were the 8 swarmhosts. The unit supposed to be most cost efficient in the zerg army paid for themselves by killing 2 random sieged and clouded tanks without support, was pretty impressive tbh
On July 10 2015 19:53 Taf the Ghost wrote: I still find it interesting that Innovation went Mech twice vs a Zerg. Got to give the SKT analysis desk credit for good planning against Snute.
I felt it was more I can do whatever I want
The "disrespect the foreigner" move is normally a super-fast cheese. Innovation never did that. I doubt they'd have decided late-game Mech was a "good way" to beat Snute if they weren't worried about losing in other phases. The match planning of the Korean leagues is normally pretty impressive. (And it's normally noticeable when the planning is better than the execution)
Exactly.....i want to think that Inno was also just a little bit scared of Snute and played safe with late game mech...
On July 10 2015 20:03 Aocowns wrote: I feel like the real overlooked MVP unit of the last snute game were the 8 swarmhosts. The unit supposed to be most cost efficient in the zerg army paid for themselves by killing 2 random sieged and clouded tanks without support, was pretty impressive tbh
Yep they are basically as cost efficient as 20 lings, really impressive I agree.
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On July 10 2015 20:06 GumBa wrote: Hellions killing life means mech wins right
The zerg took some kind of damage from the pre-banshee pressure, therefore he will definitily take damage from the banshees, and then its ALL OGRE CUS MECH
I actually kinda want this to be a more high profile forgg vs zerg maych where he does a randomly decided hellbat pressure into cloak banshee into win every game
Since foreigners stopped coming to Korea I think there is no point in inviting them - if they don't have even a week of practice in Korea it's pretty much a walkover.
On July 10 2015 20:14 stardog wrote: Since foreigners stopped coming to Korea I think there is no point in inviting them - if they don't have even a week of practice in Korea it's pretty much a walkover.
I agree, Harstem will stay in Korea for a longer period I think. Maybe he gets a seed after he got to train for some months.
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I liked reading everyone ripping on Snute as if he's not a great Starcraft player in his own right. Okay, he's losing to Inno on home turf, big surprise. At least he showed up and played his games.
On July 10 2015 21:31 OtherWorld wrote: Well damn, I hope Snute doesn't get discouraged and retire.
He was already feeling pretty down at HSC, hopefully he'll take a break and re-evaluate his career.
he shouldn't tbh. it was pretty encouraging for him despite the result. inno is part of a team that is pretty much playing the matchup at the highest level and he didn't get embarassed like even some koreans could have been.
On July 10 2015 21:31 OtherWorld wrote: Well damn, I hope Snute doesn't get discouraged and retire.
He was already feeling pretty down at HSC, hopefully he'll take a break and re-evaluate his career.
he shouldn't tbh. it was pretty encouraging for him despite the result. inno is part of a team that is pretty much playing the matchup at the highest level and he didn't get embarassed like even some koreans could have been.
I agree that he shouldn't feel down on himself for losing to Innovation, but you have to remember that his lack of motivation was made apparent to us via Twitter when he got knocked out of HSC. It definitely feels like he's in a bit of a rut.
Does anyone know if it's a good idea to take a break in eSports, and come back when you're more prepared? I know that Bisu did it once season, and came back to have the highest-ever amount of Proleague wins.
On July 10 2015 21:31 OtherWorld wrote: Well damn, I hope Snute doesn't get discouraged and retire.
He was already feeling pretty down at HSC, hopefully he'll take a break and re-evaluate his career.
he shouldn't tbh. it was pretty encouraging for him despite the result. inno is part of a team that is pretty much playing the matchup at the highest level and he didn't get embarassed like even some koreans could have been.
I agree that he shouldn't feel down on himself for losing to Innovation, but you have to remember that his lack of motivation was made apparent to us via Twitter when he got knocked out of HSC. It definitely feels like he's in a bit of a rut.
Does anyone know if it's a good idea to take a break in eSports, and come back when you're more prepared? I know that Bisu did it once season, and came back to have the highest-ever amount of Proleague wins.
As far as foreigners are concerned, I don't think there have been true "breaks". There have been temporary game-switches however (NaNiwa, Scarlett), with not much success when coming back
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