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On June 30 2015 05:08 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2015 05:03 Elentos wrote:On June 30 2015 05:00 OtherWorld wrote:On June 30 2015 04:48 Elentos wrote:On June 30 2015 04:45 OtherWorld wrote:On June 30 2015 03:50 Elentos wrote:On June 30 2015 03:44 IntoTheheart wrote:On June 30 2015 03:43 Elentos wrote:On June 30 2015 03:39 IntoTheheart wrote:On June 30 2015 03:28 Shellshock wrote:
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4th best player in KT this round. Should bench him for stats Would it be demotivating to be behind Flash in SC2PL? =/ Why should it? Flash didn't exactly have the greatest transition into SC2, let's just put it that way. Buuut he's working hard (probably is working hard) and improving. But I would've thought that Life would just crush everyone else in 2015. This is Proleague. Sometimes, it follows its own rules. Flash may not have had much success in individual formats since his transition, but he's been KT's top performer the last 3 years straight, this'll be the first year he won't be. Nevermind the fact that I would expect Life to be motivated from having to actually prove he's the better player. On June 30 2015 03:48 IntoTheheart wrote:On June 30 2015 03:47 OtherWorld wrote:On June 30 2015 03:44 IntoTheheart wrote:On June 30 2015 03:43 Elentos wrote:
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Why should it? Flash didn't exactly have the greatest transition into SC2, let's just put it that way. Buuut he's working hard (probably is working hard) and improving. But I would've thought that Life would just crush everyone else in 2015. FlaSh's peak was in August/September 2014 and since he basically announced his retirement he won't improve a lot. Wait when did he announce his retirement? I assume he's referring to the TL interview with Flash where Flash says he's considering coming back to Brood War after he retires. With no indication of when that'll be whatsoever. More precisely I'm referring to GGZerG's post saying that he'll retire at the end of the PL season. Which sounds about right to me, because unless he's still in GSL or SSL by then, that should be timed with his last GSL/SSL season before LotV's release. Do you have a link to that? I find individual posts I haven't read before impossible to find on TL. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/485256-flash-intends-on-playing-brood-war-again-later-on?page=2#32 Although I don't quite see the point of going back to Brood War before your military service. Also might be a tough year coming up for KT. Zest, First, Stats and Flash are all around the same age and all former BW pros, imagine if they retire collectively :S I think it all depends on LotV and how much they enjoy it & the success they get tbh. Although for FlaSh it's another matter, I think that he set for himself the "2 years to be among the best in SC2" deadline (or 3 years, I don't remember) and now he's seeing that SC2 isn't meeting his expectations in terms of results, thus retirement. Zest and Stats are decently successful this year so it'd be weird for them to come back to BW, at least not until they spend 1 or so year(s) trying to find success in LotV. No idea about First though.
I was just imagining a horror scenario, because as it stands now, KT can't accurately replace Flash, Zest and Stats in Proleague. Life has never been a beast for the team leagues and I doubt he will become one, TY has extreme consistency issues, etc. And most of the young rising stars are already on teams that are on KT's level.
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On June 30 2015 05:14 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2015 05:08 OtherWorld wrote:On June 30 2015 05:03 Elentos wrote:On June 30 2015 05:00 OtherWorld wrote:On June 30 2015 04:48 Elentos wrote:On June 30 2015 04:45 OtherWorld wrote:On June 30 2015 03:50 Elentos wrote:On June 30 2015 03:44 IntoTheheart wrote:On June 30 2015 03:43 Elentos wrote:On June 30 2015 03:39 IntoTheheart wrote:
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Would it be demotivating to be behind Flash in SC2PL? =/ Why should it? Flash didn't exactly have the greatest transition into SC2, let's just put it that way. Buuut he's working hard (probably is working hard) and improving. But I would've thought that Life would just crush everyone else in 2015. This is Proleague. Sometimes, it follows its own rules. Flash may not have had much success in individual formats since his transition, but he's been KT's top performer the last 3 years straight, this'll be the first year he won't be. Nevermind the fact that I would expect Life to be motivated from having to actually prove he's the better player. On June 30 2015 03:48 IntoTheheart wrote:On June 30 2015 03:47 OtherWorld wrote:On June 30 2015 03:44 IntoTheheart wrote:
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Flash didn't exactly have the greatest transition into SC2, let's just put it that way. Buuut he's working hard (probably is working hard) and improving. But I would've thought that Life would just crush everyone else in 2015. FlaSh's peak was in August/September 2014 and since he basically announced his retirement he won't improve a lot. Wait when did he announce his retirement? I assume he's referring to the TL interview with Flash where Flash says he's considering coming back to Brood War after he retires. With no indication of when that'll be whatsoever. More precisely I'm referring to GGZerG's post saying that he'll retire at the end of the PL season. Which sounds about right to me, because unless he's still in GSL or SSL by then, that should be timed with his last GSL/SSL season before LotV's release. Do you have a link to that? I find individual posts I haven't read before impossible to find on TL. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/485256-flash-intends-on-playing-brood-war-again-later-on?page=2#32 Although I don't quite see the point of going back to Brood War before your military service. Also might be a tough year coming up for KT. Zest, First, Stats and Flash are all around the same age and all former BW pros, imagine if they retire collectively :S I think it all depends on LotV and how much they enjoy it & the success they get tbh. Although for FlaSh it's another matter, I think that he set for himself the "2 years to be among the best in SC2" deadline (or 3 years, I don't remember) and now he's seeing that SC2 isn't meeting his expectations in terms of results, thus retirement. Zest and Stats are decently successful this year so it'd be weird for them to come back to BW, at least not until they spend 1 or so year(s) trying to find success in LotV. No idea about First though. I was just imagining a horror scenario, because as it stands now, KT can't accurately replace Flash, Zest and Stats in Proleague. Life has never been a beast for the team leagues and I doubt he will become one, TY has extreme consistency issues, etc. And most of the young rising stars are already on teams that are on KT's level.
It's true that KT have been kinda subpar with their young guns recruitment. I mean OK Life is like super young, but apart from him... I guess SpeeD must be young too?
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On June 30 2015 05:44 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2015 05:14 Elentos wrote:On June 30 2015 05:08 OtherWorld wrote:On June 30 2015 05:03 Elentos wrote:On June 30 2015 05:00 OtherWorld wrote:On June 30 2015 04:48 Elentos wrote:On June 30 2015 04:45 OtherWorld wrote:On June 30 2015 03:50 Elentos wrote:On June 30 2015 03:44 IntoTheheart wrote:On June 30 2015 03:43 Elentos wrote:
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Why should it? Flash didn't exactly have the greatest transition into SC2, let's just put it that way. Buuut he's working hard (probably is working hard) and improving. But I would've thought that Life would just crush everyone else in 2015. This is Proleague. Sometimes, it follows its own rules. Flash may not have had much success in individual formats since his transition, but he's been KT's top performer the last 3 years straight, this'll be the first year he won't be. Nevermind the fact that I would expect Life to be motivated from having to actually prove he's the better player. On June 30 2015 03:48 IntoTheheart wrote:On June 30 2015 03:47 OtherWorld wrote:
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FlaSh's peak was in August/September 2014 and since he basically announced his retirement he won't improve a lot. Wait when did he announce his retirement? I assume he's referring to the TL interview with Flash where Flash says he's considering coming back to Brood War after he retires. With no indication of when that'll be whatsoever. More precisely I'm referring to GGZerG's post saying that he'll retire at the end of the PL season. Which sounds about right to me, because unless he's still in GSL or SSL by then, that should be timed with his last GSL/SSL season before LotV's release. Do you have a link to that? I find individual posts I haven't read before impossible to find on TL. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/485256-flash-intends-on-playing-brood-war-again-later-on?page=2#32 Although I don't quite see the point of going back to Brood War before your military service. Also might be a tough year coming up for KT. Zest, First, Stats and Flash are all around the same age and all former BW pros, imagine if they retire collectively :S I think it all depends on LotV and how much they enjoy it & the success they get tbh. Although for FlaSh it's another matter, I think that he set for himself the "2 years to be among the best in SC2" deadline (or 3 years, I don't remember) and now he's seeing that SC2 isn't meeting his expectations in terms of results, thus retirement. Zest and Stats are decently successful this year so it'd be weird for them to come back to BW, at least not until they spend 1 or so year(s) trying to find success in LotV. No idea about First though. I was just imagining a horror scenario, because as it stands now, KT can't accurately replace Flash, Zest and Stats in Proleague. Life has never been a beast for the team leagues and I doubt he will become one, TY has extreme consistency issues, etc. And most of the young rising stars are already on teams that are on KT's level. It's true that KT have been kinda subpar with their young guns recruitment. I mean OK Life is like super young, but apart from him... I guess SpeeD must be young too?
You'd assume he's young but nobody knows much about KT SpeeD *shrug*. There's no pictures of him even though Aligulac tells me he played quite a few offline games in his career since 2012 even.
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On June 30 2015 05:03 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2015 05:00 OtherWorld wrote:On June 30 2015 04:48 Elentos wrote:On June 30 2015 04:45 OtherWorld wrote:On June 30 2015 03:50 Elentos wrote:On June 30 2015 03:44 IntoTheheart wrote:On June 30 2015 03:43 Elentos wrote:On June 30 2015 03:39 IntoTheheart wrote:On June 30 2015 03:28 Shellshock wrote:On June 30 2015 03:10 Ej_ wrote:
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Lee Seung Hyun all-kill 4th best player in KT this round. Should bench him for stats Would it be demotivating to be behind Flash in SC2PL? =/ Why should it? Flash didn't exactly have the greatest transition into SC2, let's just put it that way. Buuut he's working hard (probably is working hard) and improving. But I would've thought that Life would just crush everyone else in 2015. This is Proleague. Sometimes, it follows its own rules. Flash may not have had much success in individual formats since his transition, but he's been KT's top performer the last 3 years straight, this'll be the first year he won't be. Nevermind the fact that I would expect Life to be motivated from having to actually prove he's the better player. On June 30 2015 03:48 IntoTheheart wrote:On June 30 2015 03:47 OtherWorld wrote:On June 30 2015 03:44 IntoTheheart wrote:On June 30 2015 03:43 Elentos wrote:On June 30 2015 03:39 IntoTheheart wrote:
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Would it be demotivating to be behind Flash in SC2PL? =/ Why should it? Flash didn't exactly have the greatest transition into SC2, let's just put it that way. Buuut he's working hard (probably is working hard) and improving. But I would've thought that Life would just crush everyone else in 2015. FlaSh's peak was in August/September 2014 and since he basically announced his retirement he won't improve a lot. Wait when did he announce his retirement? I assume he's referring to the TL interview with Flash where Flash says he's considering coming back to Brood War after he retires. With no indication of when that'll be whatsoever. More precisely I'm referring to GGZerG's post saying that he'll retire at the end of the PL season. Which sounds about right to me, because unless he's still in GSL or SSL by then, that should be timed with his last GSL/SSL season before LotV's release. Do you have a link to that? I find individual posts I haven't read before impossible to find on TL. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/485256-flash-intends-on-playing-brood-war-again-later-on?page=2#32 Although I don't quite see the point of going back to Brood War before your military service. Also might be a tough year coming up for KT. Zest, First, Stats and Flash are all around the same age and all former BW pros, imagine if they retire collectively :S
2016 year of Tae Yang.
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On June 30 2015 06:03 royalroadweed wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2015 05:03 Elentos wrote:On June 30 2015 05:00 OtherWorld wrote:On June 30 2015 04:48 Elentos wrote:On June 30 2015 04:45 OtherWorld wrote:On June 30 2015 03:50 Elentos wrote:On June 30 2015 03:44 IntoTheheart wrote:On June 30 2015 03:43 Elentos wrote:On June 30 2015 03:39 IntoTheheart wrote:On June 30 2015 03:28 Shellshock wrote:
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4th best player in KT this round. Should bench him for stats Would it be demotivating to be behind Flash in SC2PL? =/ Why should it? Flash didn't exactly have the greatest transition into SC2, let's just put it that way. Buuut he's working hard (probably is working hard) and improving. But I would've thought that Life would just crush everyone else in 2015. This is Proleague. Sometimes, it follows its own rules. Flash may not have had much success in individual formats since his transition, but he's been KT's top performer the last 3 years straight, this'll be the first year he won't be. Nevermind the fact that I would expect Life to be motivated from having to actually prove he's the better player. On June 30 2015 03:48 IntoTheheart wrote:On June 30 2015 03:47 OtherWorld wrote:On June 30 2015 03:44 IntoTheheart wrote:On June 30 2015 03:43 Elentos wrote:
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Why should it? Flash didn't exactly have the greatest transition into SC2, let's just put it that way. Buuut he's working hard (probably is working hard) and improving. But I would've thought that Life would just crush everyone else in 2015. FlaSh's peak was in August/September 2014 and since he basically announced his retirement he won't improve a lot. Wait when did he announce his retirement? I assume he's referring to the TL interview with Flash where Flash says he's considering coming back to Brood War after he retires. With no indication of when that'll be whatsoever. More precisely I'm referring to GGZerG's post saying that he'll retire at the end of the PL season. Which sounds about right to me, because unless he's still in GSL or SSL by then, that should be timed with his last GSL/SSL season before LotV's release. Do you have a link to that? I find individual posts I haven't read before impossible to find on TL. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/485256-flash-intends-on-playing-brood-war-again-later-on?page=2#32 Although I don't quite see the point of going back to Brood War before your military service. Also might be a tough year coming up for KT. Zest, First, Stats and Flash are all around the same age and all former BW pros, imagine if they retire collectively :S 2016 year of Tae Yang.
Well... his 2015 so far is pretty good. Maybe his 2016 will be glorious. Who knows.
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On June 30 2015 05:03 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2015 05:00 OtherWorld wrote:On June 30 2015 04:48 Elentos wrote:On June 30 2015 04:45 OtherWorld wrote:On June 30 2015 03:50 Elentos wrote:On June 30 2015 03:44 IntoTheheart wrote:On June 30 2015 03:43 Elentos wrote:On June 30 2015 03:39 IntoTheheart wrote:On June 30 2015 03:28 Shellshock wrote:On June 30 2015 03:10 Ej_ wrote:
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Lee Seung Hyun all-kill 4th best player in KT this round. Should bench him for stats Would it be demotivating to be behind Flash in SC2PL? =/ Why should it? Flash didn't exactly have the greatest transition into SC2, let's just put it that way. Buuut he's working hard (probably is working hard) and improving. But I would've thought that Life would just crush everyone else in 2015. This is Proleague. Sometimes, it follows its own rules. Flash may not have had much success in individual formats since his transition, but he's been KT's top performer the last 3 years straight, this'll be the first year he won't be. Nevermind the fact that I would expect Life to be motivated from having to actually prove he's the better player. On June 30 2015 03:48 IntoTheheart wrote:On June 30 2015 03:47 OtherWorld wrote:On June 30 2015 03:44 IntoTheheart wrote:On June 30 2015 03:43 Elentos wrote:On June 30 2015 03:39 IntoTheheart wrote:
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Would it be demotivating to be behind Flash in SC2PL? =/ Why should it? Flash didn't exactly have the greatest transition into SC2, let's just put it that way. Buuut he's working hard (probably is working hard) and improving. But I would've thought that Life would just crush everyone else in 2015. FlaSh's peak was in August/September 2014 and since he basically announced his retirement he won't improve a lot. Wait when did he announce his retirement? I assume he's referring to the TL interview with Flash where Flash says he's considering coming back to Brood War after he retires. With no indication of when that'll be whatsoever. More precisely I'm referring to GGZerG's post saying that he'll retire at the end of the PL season. Which sounds about right to me, because unless he's still in GSL or SSL by then, that should be timed with his last GSL/SSL season before LotV's release. Do you have a link to that? I find individual posts I haven't read before impossible to find on TL. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/485256-flash-intends-on-playing-brood-war-again-later-on?page=2#32 Although I don't quite see the point of going back to Brood War before your military service. Also might be a tough year coming up for KT. Zest, First, Stats and Flash are all around the same age and all former BW pros, imagine if they retire collectively :S
HOLY CRAP GUYS STOP THIS SHIT!!!!!!
you almost gave me a heartattack 
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On June 30 2015 06:41 Silvana wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2015 05:03 Elentos wrote:On June 30 2015 05:00 OtherWorld wrote:On June 30 2015 04:48 Elentos wrote:On June 30 2015 04:45 OtherWorld wrote:On June 30 2015 03:50 Elentos wrote:On June 30 2015 03:44 IntoTheheart wrote:On June 30 2015 03:43 Elentos wrote:On June 30 2015 03:39 IntoTheheart wrote:On June 30 2015 03:28 Shellshock wrote:
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4th best player in KT this round. Should bench him for stats Would it be demotivating to be behind Flash in SC2PL? =/ Why should it? Flash didn't exactly have the greatest transition into SC2, let's just put it that way. Buuut he's working hard (probably is working hard) and improving. But I would've thought that Life would just crush everyone else in 2015. This is Proleague. Sometimes, it follows its own rules. Flash may not have had much success in individual formats since his transition, but he's been KT's top performer the last 3 years straight, this'll be the first year he won't be. Nevermind the fact that I would expect Life to be motivated from having to actually prove he's the better player. On June 30 2015 03:48 IntoTheheart wrote:On June 30 2015 03:47 OtherWorld wrote:On June 30 2015 03:44 IntoTheheart wrote:On June 30 2015 03:43 Elentos wrote:
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Why should it? Flash didn't exactly have the greatest transition into SC2, let's just put it that way. Buuut he's working hard (probably is working hard) and improving. But I would've thought that Life would just crush everyone else in 2015. FlaSh's peak was in August/September 2014 and since he basically announced his retirement he won't improve a lot. Wait when did he announce his retirement? I assume he's referring to the TL interview with Flash where Flash says he's considering coming back to Brood War after he retires. With no indication of when that'll be whatsoever. More precisely I'm referring to GGZerG's post saying that he'll retire at the end of the PL season. Which sounds about right to me, because unless he's still in GSL or SSL by then, that should be timed with his last GSL/SSL season before LotV's release. Do you have a link to that? I find individual posts I haven't read before impossible to find on TL. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/485256-flash-intends-on-playing-brood-war-again-later-on?page=2#32 Although I don't quite see the point of going back to Brood War before your military service. Also might be a tough year coming up for KT. Zest, First, Stats and Flash are all around the same age and all former BW pros, imagine if they retire collectively :S HOLY CRAP GUYS STOP THIS SHIT!!!!!! you almost gave me a heartattack
 Sorry d:
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KT might win if they don't send out Stats. If it comes to it, KT should send out Baby, Flash and Life next.
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On June 30 2015 07:08 swag_bro wrote:
KT might win if they don't send out Stats. If it comes to it, KT should send out Baby, Flash and Life next.
Stats has the highest win-loss ratio in KT.
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I pray for 2 more sOs all kills. Those 12 maps wins would be more impressive than a Premier tourney win IMO
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On June 30 2015 10:12 Bagration wrote:
I pray for 2 more sOs all kills. Those 12 maps wins would be more impressive than a Premier tourney win IMO
GumiGoD 8-0 in GSTL FInals
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On June 30 2015 09:52 EngrishTeacher wrote:
Zest all kill, right?
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight! But I mean that in a non-sarcastic and totally-agree-with-you kind of way. Go KT!
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ALLEYCAT BLUES51068 Posts
On June 30 2015 06:41 Silvana wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2015 05:03 Elentos wrote:On June 30 2015 05:00 OtherWorld wrote:On June 30 2015 04:48 Elentos wrote:On June 30 2015 04:45 OtherWorld wrote:On June 30 2015 03:50 Elentos wrote:On June 30 2015 03:44 IntoTheheart wrote:On June 30 2015 03:43 Elentos wrote:On June 30 2015 03:39 IntoTheheart wrote:On June 30 2015 03:28 Shellshock wrote:
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4th best player in KT this round. Should bench him for stats Would it be demotivating to be behind Flash in SC2PL? =/ Why should it? Flash didn't exactly have the greatest transition into SC2, let's just put it that way. Buuut he's working hard (probably is working hard) and improving. But I would've thought that Life would just crush everyone else in 2015. This is Proleague. Sometimes, it follows its own rules. Flash may not have had much success in individual formats since his transition, but he's been KT's top performer the last 3 years straight, this'll be the first year he won't be. Nevermind the fact that I would expect Life to be motivated from having to actually prove he's the better player. On June 30 2015 03:48 IntoTheheart wrote:On June 30 2015 03:47 OtherWorld wrote:On June 30 2015 03:44 IntoTheheart wrote:On June 30 2015 03:43 Elentos wrote:
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Why should it? Flash didn't exactly have the greatest transition into SC2, let's just put it that way. Buuut he's working hard (probably is working hard) and improving. But I would've thought that Life would just crush everyone else in 2015. FlaSh's peak was in August/September 2014 and since he basically announced his retirement he won't improve a lot. Wait when did he announce his retirement? I assume he's referring to the TL interview with Flash where Flash says he's considering coming back to Brood War after he retires. With no indication of when that'll be whatsoever. More precisely I'm referring to GGZerG's post saying that he'll retire at the end of the PL season. Which sounds about right to me, because unless he's still in GSL or SSL by then, that should be timed with his last GSL/SSL season before LotV's release. Do you have a link to that? I find individual posts I haven't read before impossible to find on TL. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/485256-flash-intends-on-playing-brood-war-again-later-on?page=2#32 Although I don't quite see the point of going back to Brood War before your military service. Also might be a tough year coming up for KT. Zest, First, Stats and Flash are all around the same age and all former BW pros, imagine if they retire collectively :S HOLY CRAP GUYS STOP THIS SHIT!!!!!! you almost gave me a heartattack
wow that got me excited for sure.
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On June 30 2015 10:33 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2015 10:12 Bagration wrote:
I pray for 2 more sOs all kills. Those 12 maps wins would be more impressive than a Premier tourney win IMO GumiGoD 8-0 in GSTL FInals
You see perfection, I see Choya fucking up and not playing Gumiho first so he could get the perfect 10-0. Imperfection denied by his own coach. How cruel fate is.
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Bisutopia19365 Posts
KT looked really good this round. I expect them to put up a much better fight then CJ.
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Canada2764 Posts
Zest 1-0 sOs
Zest 1-1 Rogue
Stats 2-1 Rogue
Stats 2-2 Maru
TY 2-3 Maru [Key Match]
Life 2-4 Maru
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On June 30 2015 16:24 Soularion wrote:
Zest 1-0 sOs
Zest 1-1 Rogue
Stats 2-1 Rogue
Stats 2-2 Maru
TY 2-3 Maru [Key Match]
Life 2-4 Maru
FlaSh benched? You crazy man
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KT winning here means Prime is definitively out of final playoffs
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EPT
