• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 17:37
CEST 23:37
KST 06:37
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners5Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview5[ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies21
Community News
[BSL22] Non-Korean Championship from 13 to 28 June2Weekly Cups (May 25-31): Clem doubles, 2v2 circuit heads toward finale0StarCraft II 5.0.16 PTR Patch Notes may 26th151Weekly Cups (May 18-24): MaxPax wins doubles0Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League6
StarCraft 2
General
TL Poll: How do you feel about the 5.0.16 PTR balance changes? Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview
Tourneys
Douyu Cup 2026 Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! GSL Code S Season 2 (2026) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament WardiTV Mondays
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 529 Opportunities Unleashed Mutation # 528 Infection Detected Welcome to the External Content forum
Brood War
General
Data needed Quality of life changes in BW that you will like ? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW fans in southern Sweden, look here! 25 Years Since Brood War Patch 1.08
Tourneys
[BSL22] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CEST [ASL21] Grand Finals [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2
Strategy
Why doesn't anyone use restoration? Any training maps people recommend? Muta micro map competition [G] Hydra ZvZ: An Introduction
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread PC Games Sales Thread Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace Megathread Summer Games Done Quick 2026!
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Trading/Investing Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Cricket [SPORT] NBA General Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Facing Challenges in Mobile App Development
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How Streaming Impacts Game P…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 10092 users

HTC: Best of 69 Live Report Thread - Page 73

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 71 72 73 74 75 94 Next
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
June 02 2015 22:19 GMT
#1441
Snute missing injects, floating 500 minerals and 1k gas, and being 40 behind in supply. I don't think bunny had over 200 minerals. He is so good.
Don't mind me
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
June 02 2015 22:20 GMT
#1442
Someone should make a time-lapse of Rifkin's beard through all of this. It should have grown over the course of 15 hours
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55581 Posts
June 02 2015 22:20 GMT
#1443
On June 03 2015 07:19 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2015 07:07 ptbl wrote:
On June 03 2015 07:05 Alchemik wrote:
On June 03 2015 07:03 ptbl wrote:
On this map, wouldn't two base play from snute be better? The third is so exposed and long distance.

why are you critizing the play of someone who's 15 hours in



Well because Bunny seems to have gotten better and stronger as the day has gone by while snute has gotten worse. You would think it would be the other way because of all the micro terran has to do.

if you're good at micro you're good at it, so while your reaction times would probably suffer and you might cramp up you're still going to be able to do the movements well

on the other hand, as xeno and ZG were pointing out, zerg has to do a lot of really frustrating and irritating things in this MU like defending reaper/hellion/banshee, defending drops, and constantly pulling ling/bane back onto creep while terran is poking. being tired you would probably want to just bust into terran and stop fucking around with their annoying minefield guerrilla crap which is the wrong way to approach it, and snute has taken a lot of engagements exactly like that

Snute is at the point where he is failing basic macro, even though Zerg macro and micro mechanics aren't more taxing than Terran.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
June 02 2015 22:21 GMT
#1444
On June 03 2015 07:17 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Snute is completely fucked

i just hope he's not emotional or pissed off at himself about it like when he drops out of tournaments. it would prolly be really shitty for his state of mind to play out and lose 10 more standard zvts just because he feels like he has to. hopefully he's able to have fun with it still
TL+ Member
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
June 02 2015 22:21 GMT
#1445
I think this series has been long enough that we can draw the conclusions that Bunny's fundamentals are probably way better, even though he is clearly tired and it shows he is still able to do the basics well enough to win.
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
Alchemik
Profile Joined March 2014
Poland7124 Posts
June 02 2015 22:22 GMT
#1446
On June 03 2015 07:21 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2015 07:17 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Snute is completely fucked

i just hope he's not emotional or pissed off at himself about it like when he drops out of tournaments. it would prolly be really shitty for his state of mind to play out and lose 10 more standard zvts just because he feels like he has to. hopefully he's able to have fun with it still

that's what he kinda always does though
Tanzklaue
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany1420 Posts
June 02 2015 22:22 GMT
#1447
On June 03 2015 07:17 ptbl wrote:
Bunny up 40 supply with no real economic damage ro both. Bunny is a macro god.

normally snute is slightly better at macro, but it seems that snute has human stamina, and bunny that of an insane person.
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
June 02 2015 22:22 GMT
#1448
On June 03 2015 07:20 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2015 07:19 brickrd wrote:
On June 03 2015 07:07 ptbl wrote:
On June 03 2015 07:05 Alchemik wrote:
On June 03 2015 07:03 ptbl wrote:
On this map, wouldn't two base play from snute be better? The third is so exposed and long distance.

why are you critizing the play of someone who's 15 hours in



Well because Bunny seems to have gotten better and stronger as the day has gone by while snute has gotten worse. You would think it would be the other way because of all the micro terran has to do.

if you're good at micro you're good at it, so while your reaction times would probably suffer and you might cramp up you're still going to be able to do the movements well

on the other hand, as xeno and ZG were pointing out, zerg has to do a lot of really frustrating and irritating things in this MU like defending reaper/hellion/banshee, defending drops, and constantly pulling ling/bane back onto creep while terran is poking. being tired you would probably want to just bust into terran and stop fucking around with their annoying minefield guerrilla crap which is the wrong way to approach it, and snute has taken a lot of engagements exactly like that

Snute is at the point where he is failing basic macro, even though Zerg macro and micro mechanics aren't more taxing than Terran.

he's not "failing macro," he's overmaking defensive lings and falling behind in economy, then falling behind in supply by taking really bad engagements

a couple of games ago bunny was at like 90/150 supply without any major engagements happening so i think your characterization is inaccurate, clearly he's playing better and that's why he's winning but "snute is failing at macro" is wrong
TL+ Member
KtJ
Profile Joined October 2014
United States3514 Posts
June 02 2015 22:22 GMT
#1449
Someone check Bunny's hands to see if their bleeding
"I thought I destroyed my CC but it seemed like the only thing I destroyed was Idra's mentality."
Tanzklaue
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany1420 Posts
June 02 2015 22:23 GMT
#1450
On June 03 2015 07:21 Destructicon wrote:
I think this series has been long enough that we can draw the conclusions that Bunny's fundamentals are probably way better, even though he is clearly tired and it shows he is still able to do the basics well enough to win.

i think it's more a thing of stamina, bunny seems barely faced while snute can't do anything anymore.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55581 Posts
June 02 2015 22:23 GMT
#1451
On June 03 2015 07:22 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2015 07:20 Elentos wrote:
On June 03 2015 07:19 brickrd wrote:
On June 03 2015 07:07 ptbl wrote:
On June 03 2015 07:05 Alchemik wrote:
On June 03 2015 07:03 ptbl wrote:
On this map, wouldn't two base play from snute be better? The third is so exposed and long distance.

why are you critizing the play of someone who's 15 hours in



Well because Bunny seems to have gotten better and stronger as the day has gone by while snute has gotten worse. You would think it would be the other way because of all the micro terran has to do.

if you're good at micro you're good at it, so while your reaction times would probably suffer and you might cramp up you're still going to be able to do the movements well

on the other hand, as xeno and ZG were pointing out, zerg has to do a lot of really frustrating and irritating things in this MU like defending reaper/hellion/banshee, defending drops, and constantly pulling ling/bane back onto creep while terran is poking. being tired you would probably want to just bust into terran and stop fucking around with their annoying minefield guerrilla crap which is the wrong way to approach it, and snute has taken a lot of engagements exactly like that

Snute is at the point where he is failing basic macro, even though Zerg macro and micro mechanics aren't more taxing than Terran.

he's not "failing macro," he's overmaking defensive lings and falling behind in economy, then falling behind in supply by taking really bad engagements

a couple of games ago bunny was at like 90/150 supply without any major engagements happening so i think your characterization is inaccurate, clearly he's playing better and that's why he's winning but "snute is failing at macro" is wrong

Overmaking unnecessary units and then falling behind on overall supply by more than 40 without any major engagements aswell as missing injects seems to accurately describe failing macro to me.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
June 02 2015 22:24 GMT
#1452
On June 03 2015 07:22 Alchemik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2015 07:21 brickrd wrote:
On June 03 2015 07:17 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Snute is completely fucked

i just hope he's not emotional or pissed off at himself about it like when he drops out of tournaments. it would prolly be really shitty for his state of mind to play out and lose 10 more standard zvts just because he feels like he has to. hopefully he's able to have fun with it still

that's what he kinda always does though

yeah but my point is it sucks to do that over a jokey showmatch that's supposed to be a fun goof for everyone involved
TL+ Member
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
June 02 2015 22:24 GMT
#1453
HTC: Best of 69

(T)Bunny vs (Z)Snute
28-20

Map: Entombed Valley

Bunny spawns in the top left!
Snute spawns in the bottom left
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
TL+ Member
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 02 2015 22:24 GMT
#1454
My favorite game on Entombed Valley was Marineking vs Parting Round 2
There. I said it.
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55581 Posts
June 02 2015 22:25 GMT
#1455
IN ZE TOP LEFT!
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Alchemik
Profile Joined March 2014
Poland7124 Posts
June 02 2015 22:25 GMT
#1456
ZE LEFT
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
June 02 2015 22:25 GMT
#1457
ZE TOP LEFT!
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
TL+ Member
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
June 02 2015 22:25 GMT
#1458
This is still going on? xD

wtf kind of streak is Bunny suddenly on, last time I looked at this Snute was like 6-0. Sick comeback rofl.
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
June 02 2015 22:25 GMT
#1459
In tournament play, it's a good idea to mix in some cheeses to keep the opponent honest. How come Snute isn't mixing in any cheeses?
Don't mind me
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
June 02 2015 22:25 GMT
#1460
On June 03 2015 07:23 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2015 07:22 brickrd wrote:
On June 03 2015 07:20 Elentos wrote:
On June 03 2015 07:19 brickrd wrote:
On June 03 2015 07:07 ptbl wrote:
On June 03 2015 07:05 Alchemik wrote:
On June 03 2015 07:03 ptbl wrote:
On this map, wouldn't two base play from snute be better? The third is so exposed and long distance.

why are you critizing the play of someone who's 15 hours in



Well because Bunny seems to have gotten better and stronger as the day has gone by while snute has gotten worse. You would think it would be the other way because of all the micro terran has to do.

if you're good at micro you're good at it, so while your reaction times would probably suffer and you might cramp up you're still going to be able to do the movements well

on the other hand, as xeno and ZG were pointing out, zerg has to do a lot of really frustrating and irritating things in this MU like defending reaper/hellion/banshee, defending drops, and constantly pulling ling/bane back onto creep while terran is poking. being tired you would probably want to just bust into terran and stop fucking around with their annoying minefield guerrilla crap which is the wrong way to approach it, and snute has taken a lot of engagements exactly like that

Snute is at the point where he is failing basic macro, even though Zerg macro and micro mechanics aren't more taxing than Terran.

he's not "failing macro," he's overmaking defensive lings and falling behind in economy, then falling behind in supply by taking really bad engagements

a couple of games ago bunny was at like 90/150 supply without any major engagements happening so i think your characterization is inaccurate, clearly he's playing better and that's why he's winning but "snute is failing at macro" is wrong

Overmaking unnecessary units and then falling behind on overall supply by more than 40 without any major engagements aswell as missing injects seems to accurately describe failing macro to me.

overmaking defensive units has nothing to do with macro wtf are you talking about? that's a bad strategic choice that results in an economic disparity. failing at macro means missing your injects, missing macro hatches, idling larvae with a bank, etc. what you're saying is like saying if i play safe and you play greedy then i "failed at macro"

also you misread my post, BUNNY was at 90/150
TL+ Member
Prev 1 71 72 73 74 75 94 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 54m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 657
ProTech103
JuggernautJason88
NeuroSwarm 84
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 1388
Dota 2
Gorgc13209
League of Legends
Doublelift3217
JimRising 418
Other Games
summit1g7346
Grubby3562
singsing1520
shahzam604
FrodaN505
byalli443
Liquid`Hasu255
C9.Mang0254
UpATreeSC70
Mew2King35
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV171
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 43
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• TFBlade1265
Other Games
• imaqtpie965
• Shiphtur257
Upcoming Events
OSC
54m
Replay Cast
2h 24m
OSC
15h 24m
Maestros of the Game
16h 24m
Classic vs Maru
Serral vs herO
TBD vs Clem
Replay Cast
1d 2h
CranKy Ducklings
1d 12h
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 17h
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
1d 21h
eOnzErG vs Mihu
Messiah vs XuanXuan
Jaystar vs TerrOr
Dewalt vs Bonyth
eOnzErG vs XuanXuan
Mihu vs TerrOr
Messiah vs Bonyth
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
[ Show More ]
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
2 days
Jaystar vs Dewalt
eOnzErG vs TerrOr
XuanXuan vs Bonyth
Mihu vs Dewalt
Messiah vs Jaystar
eOnzErG vs Bonyth
TerrOr vs Dewalt
OSC
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
Replay Cast
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL Season 22
2026 GSL S2
Heroes Pulsing #1

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
YSL S3
Acropolis #4 - GSB
SCTL 2026 Spring
WardiTV Spring 2026
Maestros of the Game 2
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Murky Cup 2026
Heroes Pulsing #2
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026

Upcoming

BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
Douyu Cup 2026
Heroes Pulsing #3
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.