Lilbow vs Kelazhur Game 1 Lilbow vs Kelazhur Game 2 Lilbow vs Kelazhur Game 3 Hydra vs Snute Game 1 Hydra vs Snute Game 2 Hydra vs Snute Game 3 Losers Match Game 1 Losers Match Game 2 Losers Match Game 3 Winners Match Game 1 Winners Match Game 2 Winners Match Game 3 Final Match Game 1 Final Match Game 2 Final Match Game 3
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (8)
62%
★★★ - Good game (4)
31%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
8%
13 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Lilbow vs Kelazhur Game 1?
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Lilbow vs Kelazhur Game 2?
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (3)
23%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
31%
★★★ - Good game (5)
38%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
8%
13 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Lilbow vs Kelazhur Game 2?
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Lilbow vs Kelazhur Game 3?
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (3)
33%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
33%
★★★ - Good game (1)
11%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (2)
22%
9 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Lilbow vs Kelazhur Game 3?
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
10%
★★★ - Good game (7)
70%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (1)
10%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
10 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Hydra vs Snute Game 1?
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Hydra vs Snute Game 2?
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1)
20%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
80%
★★★ - Good game (0)
0%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
5 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Hydra vs Snute Game 2?
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Hydra vs Snute Game 3?
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (5)
63%
★★★ - Good game (3)
38%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
8 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Hydra vs Snute Game 3?
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
14%
★★★ - Good game (5)
71%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
14%
7 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Losers' Match Game 1?
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Losers' Match Game 2?
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (6)
55%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★ - Good game (2)
18%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (2)
18%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
9%
11 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Losers' Match Game 2?
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Losers' Match Game 3?
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (4)
57%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
14%
★★★ - Good game (1)
14%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (1)
14%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
7 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Losers' Match Game 3?
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
22%
★★★ - Good game (5)
56%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (2)
22%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
9 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Winners' Match Game 1?
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Winners' Match Game 2?
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1)
20%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
20%
★★★ - Good game (3)
60%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
5 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Winners' Match Game 2?
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Winners' Match Game 3?
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (3)
25%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
8%
★★★ - Good game (2)
17%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (1)
8%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (5)
42%
12 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Winners' Match Game 3?
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
40%
★★★ - Good game (3)
60%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
5 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 1?
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 2?
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (3)
100%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★ - Good game (0)
0%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
3 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 2?
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 3?
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
100%
★★★ - Good game (0)
0%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
2 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 3?
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Because of the group draw I could see either Hydra or Snute not making it through, Lilbow can when hes on form beat either of them. Hoping for Snute and Lilbow making it through, but it will probably be Hydra and Snute, with Lilbow certainly capable of making it through at the expense of one of those two. Sorry Kelazhur but you drew a tough, tough group
Hydra and Snute the easy choice, but I could see Lilbow pulling out an upset over Snute. Kelazhur will have a tough time but he is looking promising so hopefully he does decently.
This is the hardest group of the WCS imo. I feel like Hydra and Snute are the easy pick here, but the PvZ of Lilbow is top notch and he has already beaten the two zergs on a regular basis. I feel sorry for Kelazhur but if he beats Lilbow in the first match, he is really capable of creating an upset. Lilbow and Hydra to advance.
Lilbow, Kelazhur, Hydra, and Snutein in WCS Premier Season 2 round of 32. This is the Group of Death! Lilbow is at 8.43% Blizzcon Chances, with a 58.98% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 12.29%, or 2.89% if they lose. Hydra is at 85.46% Blizzcon Chances, with a 57.54% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 93.26%, or 74.89% if they lose. Kelazhur is at 0.28% Blizzcon Chances, with a 33.37% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 0.66%, or 0.08% if they lose. Snute is at 24.71% Blizzcon Chances, with a 50.11% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 35.44%, or 13.92% if they lose.
ForGG has a 22.1% chance to win ----going from 59.47% to 99.35% if they get 1st, or 48.16% if they don't. Bunny has a 9.11% chance to win ----going from 29.35% to 97.17% if they get 1st, or 22.55% if they don't. Polt has a 8.57% chance to win ----going from 89.82% to 100% if they get 1st, or 88.86% if they don't. Hydra has a 8.56% chance to win ----going from 85.46% to 100% if they get 1st, or 84.1% if they don't. MarineLorD has a 6.02% chance to win ----going from 6.39% to 46.14% if they get 1st, or 3.85% if they don't. + Show Spoiler [More Winning Chances] +
Jaedong has a 5.48% chance to win ----going from 16.31% to 81.77% if they get 1st, or 12.51% if they don't. Petraeus has a 5.01% chance to win ----going from 4.5% to 39.71% if they get 1st, or 2.64% if they don't. Lilbow has a 4.98% chance to win ----going from 8.43% to 60.49% if they get 1st, or 5.7% if they don't. Snute has a 4.35% chance to win ----going from 24.71% to 99.17% if they get 1st, or 21.32% if they don't. MajOr has a 3.81% chance to win ----going from 4.89% to 48.63% if they get 1st, or 3.15% if they don't. Harstem has a 3.64% chance to win ----going from 6.53% to 66.43% if they get 1st, or 4.27% if they don't. StarDust has a 3.06% chance to win ----going from 2.69% to 35.04% if they get 1st, or 1.67% if they don't. MaSa has a 3.01% chance to win ----going from 3.37% to 42.9% if they get 1st, or 2.15% if they don't. MaNa has a 2.97% chance to win ----going from 6.17% to 68.07% if they get 1st, or 4.28% if they don't. GunGFuBanDa has a 1.63% chance to win ----going from 1.35% to 32.15% if they get 1st, or 0.84% if they don't. Ret has a 1.43% chance to win ----going from 1.08% to 31.51% if they get 1st, or 0.64% if they don't. FireCake has a 1.4% chance to win ----going from 2.66% to 61.15% if they get 1st, or 1.83% if they don't. iAsonu has a 1.4% chance to win ----going from 0.85% to 28.33% if they get 1st, or 0.46% if they don't. elfi has a 1.07% chance to win ----going from 0.96% to 34.13% if they get 1st, or 0.61% if they don't. iaguz has a 0.81% chance to win ----going from 0.83% to 35.71% if they get 1st, or 0.55% if they don't. TLO has a 0.59% chance to win ----going from 1.5% to 71.37% if they get 1st, or 1.08% if they don't. Has has a 0.38% chance to win ----going from 0.62% to 47.68% if they get 1st, or 0.44% if they don't. Kelazhur has a 0.32% chance to win ----going from 0.28% to 28.09% if they get 1st, or 0.19% if they don't. Elazer has a 0.3% chance to win ----going from 0.13% to 18.14% if they get 1st, or 0.07% if they don't.
On May 29 2015 01:03 Elentos wrote: Apollo hosting? Everything is proceeding as I have foreseen, Lord Vader.
Apollo is slowly taking over the job of ReDeYe?
If he doesn't, who will?
Kaelaris, changing his nickname to ReDhAiR
I'd rather they both cast, tbh. They're definitely my favourite casting team. Alas, someone has to host and Apollo already hosted the season finals for season 1.
On May 29 2015 01:20 Elentos wrote: Oh damn. Kelazhur is on ROOT, I forgot. That means he got the CatZ StratZ.
one can hope but alas, he ain't zerg
CatZ is a genius with coming up with builds tho, he can probably figure something out for Terran. He also has SuperNova and MaSa for practice. So really, Kelazhur should at least bring good play.
On May 29 2015 01:34 CruelZeratul wrote: Straight macro for ~15 minutes (one failed drop), one push, now essentially a long death animation. What an exciting game.
On May 29 2015 01:35 royalroadweed wrote: Yeah he should pull scvs because its unrealistic to expect to win a fight when you're up 30 supply and up in upgrades >.>
Lilbow has been ahead in upgrades the whole game. (2 sets)
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (8)
62%
★★★ - Good game (4)
31%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
8%
13 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Lilbow vs Kelazhur Game 1?
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
On May 29 2015 01:38 Mozdk wrote: Well. Picking mech on the best bio map in the pool... I guess he had this coming. It's a strategy game dude. Shape up!
maybe his mindgames went to 11 but his brain wasn't ready to deal with it and melted
On May 29 2015 01:38 Mozdk wrote: Well. Picking mech on the best bio map in the pool... I guess he had this coming. It's a strategy game dude. Shape up!
On May 29 2015 01:35 Heartland wrote: lol, how the hell did Lilbow manage to win that fight?
Think of ZvP Think of zerg being up in supply when spamming roaches Hellbats cost as much as a roch but don't cost gas Terran has mules.
it was more the angle and the choke I was thinking about tbh
:D Hellbats are the answer again haha They are like roaches without speed shitty shitty shitty range. they don't like chokes that much unless it's lings running in.
On May 29 2015 01:42 Ppjack wrote: If Lilbow had tried to take a third as anyone would have done, he would have died instantly to this push. Well scouted, great game sense.
Yeah, the fact that he saw what Kelazhur was doing the whole game with his oracles / observers was huge.
On May 29 2015 01:38 Mozdk wrote: Well. Picking mech on the best bio map in the pool... I guess he had this coming. It's a strategy game dude. Shape up!
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
31%
★★★ - Good game (5)
38%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
8%
13 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Lilbow vs Kelazhur Game 2?
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Lilbow vs Kelazhur Game 3?
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (3)
33%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
33%
★★★ - Good game (1)
11%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (2)
22%
9 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Lilbow vs Kelazhur Game 3?
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
On May 29 2015 01:55 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: 2.5k resources in the bank, at 175 supply
foriegner starcraft
To be fair I've watched zerg (I know there were none here) of all levels do that while they decide what tech switching they want to do. And protosses get to around that supply and then use constant warp ins to harrass
On May 29 2015 02:26 Ej_ wrote: wouldn't it be better for Snute to first let the OL further and then kill it before it runs to the ledge?
Hydra will very likely keep it on the edge of the cliff and slowly drift closer to the gas, especially on this map since the gasses are on only one side of the hatch.
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
10%
★★★ - Good game (7)
70%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (1)
10%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
10 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Hydra vs Snute Game 1?
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
The really crisp timing that wasn't a timing that works when the opponent doesn't make mistakes but it shouldn't work. Putting all the stuff the casters say in one sentance is funny.
On May 29 2015 02:34 HellHound wrote: The really crisp timing that wasn't a timing that works when the opponent doesn't make mistakes but it shouldn't work. Putting all the stuff the casters say in one sentance is funny.
I like Tastosis because they don't even bother with casting and just talk about video games and movies or joke when I watch the games.
On May 29 2015 02:34 HellHound wrote: The really crisp timing that wasn't a timing that works when the opponent doesn't make mistakes but it shouldn't work. Putting all the stuff the casters say in one sentance is funny.
I like Tastosis because they don't even bother with casting and just talk about video games and movies or joke when I watch the games.
On May 29 2015 02:34 HellHound wrote: The really crisp timing that wasn't a timing that works when the opponent doesn't make mistakes but it shouldn't work. Putting all the stuff the casters say in one sentance is funny.
I like Tastosis because they don't even bother with casting and just talk about video games and movies or joke when I watch the games.
They did cast the Code S Group A!
I missed this one live and then didn't watch VODs cause I'm still salty.
On May 29 2015 02:33 Ej_ wrote: where did the trope of Snute going roach/infestor come from?
He'd played it a few times. I don't think he's used it significantly more than Roach/bane or roach/hydra though.
It's cause it's very Snute like (turtley defensive shit) The biggest name he played in zvz a lot (recently) is TRUE and he always did it vs him (cause TRUE always did the 5 gas mass roach thing)
On May 29 2015 02:38 SharkStarcraft wrote: i have been wondering for quite some time, is there a specific reason why wcs has the losers match before the winners?
On May 29 2015 02:38 SharkStarcraft wrote: i have been wondering for quite some time, is there a specific reason why wcs has the losers match before the winners?
On May 29 2015 02:38 SharkStarcraft wrote: i have been wondering for quite some time, is there a specific reason why wcs has the losers match before the winners?
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
80%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1)
20%
★★★ - Good game (0)
0%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
5 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Hydra vs Snute Game 1
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
80%
★★★ - Good game (0)
0%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
5 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Hydra vs Snute Game 2?
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
80%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1)
20%
★★★ - Good game (0)
0%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
5 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Hydra vs Snute Game 1
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
80%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1)
20%
★★★ - Good game (0)
0%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
5 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Hydra vs Snute Game 1
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (5)
63%
★★★ - Good game (3)
38%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
8 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Hydra vs Snute Game 3?
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (5)
63%
★★★ - Good game (3)
38%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
8 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Hydra vs Snute Game 3?
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
On May 29 2015 03:16 Elentos wrote: Sometimes I wonder how good Hydra would be if he wasn't blind on one eye <.<
I thought the blind in one eye hydra was KT CrazyHydra not CJ hydra? Or do I have them backward
it's CJ Hydra. He probably would be around the same as the thing holding him back isn't the mechanics.
Well I guess. Even one-eyed his minimap awareness is better than MarineKing's.
How sick would it be if someone could lock one eye onto the minimap and process information out of that eye independently of his other eye which is doing all the micro/macro work. Sick sity I tell ya.
On May 29 2015 03:16 Elentos wrote: Sometimes I wonder how good Hydra would be if he wasn't blind on one eye <.<
I thought the blind in one eye hydra was KT CrazyHydra not CJ hydra? Or do I have them backward
it's CJ Hydra. He probably would be around the same as the thing holding him back isn't the mechanics.
Well I guess. Even one-eyed his minimap awareness is better than MarineKing's.
How sick would it be if someone could lock one eye onto the minimap and process information out of that eye independently of his other eye which is doing all the micro/macro work. Sick sity I tell ya.
On May 29 2015 03:16 Elentos wrote: Sometimes I wonder how good Hydra would be if he wasn't blind on one eye <.<
I thought the blind in one eye hydra was KT CrazyHydra not CJ hydra? Or do I have them backward
it's CJ Hydra. He probably would be around the same as the thing holding him back isn't the mechanics.
Well I guess. Even one-eyed his minimap awareness is better than MarineKing's.
How sick would it be if someone could lock one eye onto the minimap and process information out of that eye independently of his other eye which is doing all the micro/macro work. Sick sity I tell ya.
Start training your chameleon.
Think he'll be held back by not having 5 digits.
Oh god what if I found this mythical eye independent person and he had like 10 fingers?!
On May 29 2015 03:16 Elentos wrote: Sometimes I wonder how good Hydra would be if he wasn't blind on one eye <.<
I thought the blind in one eye hydra was KT CrazyHydra not CJ hydra? Or do I have them backward
it's CJ Hydra. He probably would be around the same as the thing holding him back isn't the mechanics.
Well I guess. Even one-eyed his minimap awareness is better than MarineKing's.
How sick would it be if someone could lock one eye onto the minimap and process information out of that eye independently of his other eye which is doing all the micro/macro work. Sick sity I tell ya.
Start training your chameleon.
Think he'll be held back by not having 5 digits.
Oh god what if I found this mythical eye independent person and he had like 10 fingers?!
On May 29 2015 03:16 Elentos wrote: Sometimes I wonder how good Hydra would be if he wasn't blind on one eye <.<
I thought the blind in one eye hydra was KT CrazyHydra not CJ hydra? Or do I have them backward
it's CJ Hydra. He probably would be around the same as the thing holding him back isn't the mechanics.
Well I guess. Even one-eyed his minimap awareness is better than MarineKing's.
How sick would it be if someone could lock one eye onto the minimap and process information out of that eye independently of his other eye which is doing all the micro/macro work. Sick sity I tell ya.
Start training your chameleon.
Think he'll be held back by not having 5 digits.
Oh god what if I found this mythical eye independent person and he had like 10 fingers?!
If he had 12 it would be even better.
Quick, go to West Virginia to begin your search!
Best odds are definitely hidden in those hills somewhere.
On May 29 2015 03:16 Elentos wrote: Sometimes I wonder how good Hydra would be if he wasn't blind on one eye <.<
I thought the blind in one eye hydra was KT CrazyHydra not CJ hydra? Or do I have them backward
it's CJ Hydra. He probably would be around the same as the thing holding him back isn't the mechanics.
Well I guess. Even one-eyed his minimap awareness is better than MarineKing's.
How sick would it be if someone could lock one eye onto the minimap and process information out of that eye independently of his other eye which is doing all the micro/macro work. Sick sity I tell ya.
Start training your chameleon.
Think he'll be held back by not having 5 digits.
Oh god what if I found this mythical eye independent person and he had like 10 fingers?!
If he had 12 it would be even better.
Quick, go to West Virginia to begin your search!
...Thats only one state away from me!!
But we need to know if that level if inbreeding would so negatively impact their brain functions that the ability to independently track the minimap while having over double the available number of fingers would wash out.
On May 29 2015 03:32 Elentos wrote: Yes ToD, how could anyone possibly be unhappy in Brazil, a country with an unbelievable disparity between rich and poor?
Progamers know nothing, Elentos. Don't you know this?
On May 29 2015 03:32 Elentos wrote: Yes ToD, how could anyone possibly be unhappy in Brazil, a country with an unbelievable disparity between rich and poor?
Progamers know nothing, Elentos. Don't you know this?
On May 29 2015 03:32 Elentos wrote: Yes ToD, how could anyone possibly be unhappy in Brazil, a country with an unbelievable disparity between rich and poor?
Progamers know nothing, Elentos. Don't you know this?
that was more bad control from mr snute than great one from kelthuzad meh actually he did control them pretty well. still snute should not have lost that queen
On May 29 2015 03:35 royalroadweed wrote: I don't know how people had difficulty pronouncing his name. Kelazhur is one of the easier IDs around.
Here's a great idea. He's in the studio. They could ask him. Of course, if he doesn't win a series today he won't be allowed to talk.
Actually, that's some point I got, why don't they copy Korean leagues and interview everyone before the games begin? <.<
My guess is for many of these players they don't have a ton of offline experience so they'd prefer to not bother the players and make them any more nervous than they already are
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
14%
★★★ - Good game (5)
71%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
14%
7 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Losers' Match Game 1?
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
On May 29 2015 03:47 Aocowns wrote: Im annoyed watching these games. theyre actually pretty shitty
you watch west wcs for the story line, not for the level of the games
But there is no storyline when you realize that only Snute or Bunny stand even close to a chance to make Blizzcon, and Snute pretty much loses that chance if he loses here
On May 29 2015 03:47 Aocowns wrote: Im annoyed watching these games. theyre actually pretty shitty
I thought the Hydra/Snute games were pretty decent. Even if the current ZvZ meta is kind of boring.
First game was Hydra being slightly too greedy for no obvious reason. Second game was Snute doing the exact same thing but Hydra wasnt greedy, then Snute lost cus of bad tech decisisions and losing 10 drones to burrow roaches in a meta where burrow roaches are really common. Then they both pretty much sucked at executing their play for the first 10 minutes, then hydra did the exact same thing he did in game 2 that snute lost to, except snute tried to be even greedier in his tech than then
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★ - Good game (2)
18%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (2)
18%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
9%
11 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Losers' Match Game 2?
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Losers' Match Game 3?
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (4)
57%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
14%
★★★ - Good game (1)
14%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (1)
14%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
7 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Losers' Match Game 3?
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
On May 29 2015 04:02 ossavi09 wrote: I hoped for a foreigner @ blizzcon, and I expected Showtime, Snute and Bunny to have a serious chance to go there /= now there's only bunny left...
On May 29 2015 04:02 ossavi09 wrote: I hoped for a foreigner @ blizzcon, and I expected Showtime, Snute and Bunny to have a serious chance to go there /= now there's only bunny left...
On May 29 2015 04:02 ossavi09 wrote: I hoped for a foreigner @ blizzcon, and I expected Showtime, Snute and Bunny to have a serious chance to go there /= now there's only bunny left...
That's why I really hate this new format. Because theres only one really good opportunity for foreigners to get points any single loss is crippling. Compared to the 6 korean leagues
On May 29 2015 04:02 ossavi09 wrote: I hoped for a foreigner @ blizzcon, and I expected Showtime, Snute and Bunny to have a serious chance to go there /= now there's only bunny left...
That's why I really hate this new format. Because theres only one really good opportunity for foreigners to get points any single loss is crippling. Compared to the 6 korean leagues
They will just get smashed in the first round anyway
On May 29 2015 04:02 ossavi09 wrote: I hoped for a foreigner @ blizzcon, and I expected Showtime, Snute and Bunny to have a serious chance to go there /= now there's only bunny left...
You should have more faith in my Millenium boys.
both (Lilbow and Mlord) did not play Premier in Season 1, so I don't think blizzcon is still possible for them
On May 29 2015 04:02 ossavi09 wrote: I hoped for a foreigner @ blizzcon, and I expected Showtime, Snute and Bunny to have a serious chance to go there /= now there's only bunny left...
That's why I really hate this new format. Because theres only one really good opportunity for foreigners to get points any single loss is crippling. Compared to the 6 korean leagues
On May 29 2015 04:02 Larkin wrote: can people stop saying Snute is the best foreigner now because he clearly isn't anymore now SHs have been nerfed
So much this. Even though I'm not sure who is the best foreigner atm.
bunny is so far ahead of any other
yeah probably Bunny, though Harstem seems equally capable of deep runs in tournaments against Koreans
What? When did Harstem have any deep run against koreans? His best result was ro8 last DH where he lost to both Gumiho and HyuN, winning vs foreigners.
On May 29 2015 04:02 ossavi09 wrote: I hoped for a foreigner @ blizzcon, and I expected Showtime, Snute and Bunny to have a serious chance to go there /= now there's only bunny left...
That's why I really hate this new format. Because theres only one really good opportunity for foreigners to get points any single loss is crippling. Compared to the 6 korean leagues
They will just get smashed in the first round anyway
That's also a product of if a nonKorean gets in its just barely meaning they play the first or second seeds. But the bottom half of the seeds are doable opponents for any foreigner good enough to get there in the first place.
Currently the back half of players are Hydra, Rain, Stats, Dark, Fantasy, Rouge, Soulkey, Innovation, Gumiho.
A few of those guys stick out as far better than their points indicate but Fanta/SK/Gumiho/Hydra are far from unbeatable as a foreigner
On May 29 2015 04:02 Larkin wrote: can people stop saying Snute is the best foreigner now because he clearly isn't anymore now SHs have been nerfed
So much this. Even though I'm not sure who is the best foreigner atm.
bunny is so far ahead of any other
He is. When I was watching his stream Happy kept wrecking him on ladder though.
happy is always top4 of ladder and always outside of it in tournaments. It's been like that since the dawn of man lol
If only someone could say to Happy not to forget to make SCVs, he would have been a consistent contender for the title of best foreigner with is insane micro.
On May 29 2015 04:02 ossavi09 wrote: I hoped for a foreigner @ blizzcon, and I expected Showtime, Snute and Bunny to have a serious chance to go there /= now there's only bunny left...
That's why I really hate this new format. Because theres only one really good opportunity for foreigners to get points any single loss is crippling. Compared to the 6 korean leagues
They will just get smashed in the first round anyway
That's also a product of if a nonKorean gets in its just barely meaning they play the first or second seeds. But the bottom half of the seeds are doable opponents for any foreigner good enough to get there in the first place.
Currently the back half of players are Hydra, Rain, Stats, Dark, Fantasy, Rouge, Soulkey, Innovation, Gumiho.
A few of those guys stick out as far better than their points indicate but Fanta/SK/Gumiho/Hydra are far from unbeatable as a foreigner
Right now the gap between foreigners and koreans seem wider than ever.
On May 29 2015 04:02 ossavi09 wrote: I hoped for a foreigner @ blizzcon, and I expected Showtime, Snute and Bunny to have a serious chance to go there /= now there's only bunny left...
You should have more faith in my Millenium boys.
both (Lilbow and Mlord) did not play Premier in Season 1, so I don't think blizzcon is still possible for them
On May 29 2015 04:02 ossavi09 wrote: I hoped for a foreigner @ blizzcon, and I expected Showtime, Snute and Bunny to have a serious chance to go there /= now there's only bunny left...
That's why I really hate this new format. Because theres only one really good opportunity for foreigners to get points any single loss is crippling. Compared to the 6 korean leagues
They will just get smashed in the first round anyway
That's also a product of if a nonKorean gets in its just barely meaning they play the first or second seeds. But the bottom half of the seeds are doable opponents for any foreigner good enough to get there in the first place.
Currently the back half of players are Hydra, Rain, Stats, Dark, Fantasy, Rouge, Soulkey, Innovation, Gumiho.
A few of those guys stick out as far better than their points indicate but Fanta/SK/Gumiho/Hydra are far from unbeatable as a foreigner
Right now the gap between foreigners and koreans seem wider than ever.
I'd say at the top of the top it definitely is but as it pretty much always has been the "lower tier" Koreans still pretty close.
On May 29 2015 04:07 KingofdaHipHop wrote: Wait what the fuck Snute out in last place?
He had one of those days where he looked garbage. he hasnt been sounding confident at all on his recent streams either
Garbage is a bit harsh man, he nearly beat Hydra in the first match
The first one was basically a BO win cus he did a roach timing that hydra was a bit greedy against. Not too much skill involved there. Then he proceeded to do the exact same build for the next 2 games, except it didnt work cus hydra wasnt greedy. After every time they went into a stable midgame, snute got completely outplayed in terms of tech decisions and even army control/position. Not to mention 2k minerals 0 gas in the last game. On a decent day he would EASILY predict his lack of gas, and at least make more spines since his entire plan was to not move out until he had T3 upgrades and roach hydra infestor anyway
On May 29 2015 04:02 ossavi09 wrote: I hoped for a foreigner @ blizzcon, and I expected Showtime, Snute and Bunny to have a serious chance to go there /= now there's only bunny left...
That's why I really hate this new format. Because theres only one really good opportunity for foreigners to get points any single loss is crippling. Compared to the 6 korean leagues
They will just get smashed in the first round anyway
That's also a product of if a nonKorean gets in its just barely meaning they play the first or second seeds. But the bottom half of the seeds are doable opponents for any foreigner good enough to get there in the first place.
Currently the back half of players are Hydra, Rain, Stats, Dark, Fantasy, Rouge, Soulkey, Innovation, Gumiho.
A few of those guys stick out as far better than their points indicate but Fanta/SK/Gumiho/Hydra are far from unbeatable as a foreigner
Right now the gap between foreigners and koreans seem wider than ever.
Last year the Koreans that went to WCS EU played on ladder. This year there are no Koreans in EU, and no one in NA plays on NA ladder (including the Koreans and foreigners - so long as they live on East/West).
On May 29 2015 04:02 ossavi09 wrote: I hoped for a foreigner @ blizzcon, and I expected Showtime, Snute and Bunny to have a serious chance to go there /= now there's only bunny left...
That's why I really hate this new format. Because theres only one really good opportunity for foreigners to get points any single loss is crippling. Compared to the 6 korean leagues
They will just get smashed in the first round anyway
That's also a product of if a nonKorean gets in its just barely meaning they play the first or second seeds. But the bottom half of the seeds are doable opponents for any foreigner good enough to get there in the first place.
Currently the back half of players are Hydra, Rain, Stats, Dark, Fantasy, Rouge, Soulkey, Innovation, Gumiho.
A few of those guys stick out as far better than their points indicate but Fanta/SK/Gumiho/Hydra are far from unbeatable as a foreigner
Right now the gap between foreigners and koreans seem wider than ever.
Last year the Koreans that went to WCS EU played on ladder. This year there are no Koreans in EU, and no one in NA plays on NA ladder (including the Koreans and foreigners - so long as they live on East/West).
On May 29 2015 04:02 ossavi09 wrote: I hoped for a foreigner @ blizzcon, and I expected Showtime, Snute and Bunny to have a serious chance to go there /= now there's only bunny left...
That's why I really hate this new format. Because theres only one really good opportunity for foreigners to get points any single loss is crippling. Compared to the 6 korean leagues
They will just get smashed in the first round anyway
That's also a product of if a nonKorean gets in its just barely meaning they play the first or second seeds. But the bottom half of the seeds are doable opponents for any foreigner good enough to get there in the first place.
Currently the back half of players are Hydra, Rain, Stats, Dark, Fantasy, Rouge, Soulkey, Innovation, Gumiho.
A few of those guys stick out as far better than their points indicate but Fanta/SK/Gumiho/Hydra are far from unbeatable as a foreigner
Right now the gap between foreigners and koreans seem wider than ever.
Last year the Koreans that went to WCS EU played on ladder. This year there are no Koreans in EU, and no one in NA plays on NA ladder (including the Koreans and foreigners - so long as they live on East/West).
Exactly. And there was Scarlett, Snute and Naniwa who at different periods were capable of playing with the best.
Bit silly to have two Protoss players comment (of whom especially ToD gets pretty biased quite often) whilst there is such an excellent Zerg player and commentator PRESENT....
On May 29 2015 04:15 SharkStarcraft wrote: on another note what about nathanias? i dont see him much at wcs these days have i tuned in during the wrong days or did they drop him?
On May 29 2015 04:15 SharkStarcraft wrote: on another note what about nathanias? i dont see him much at wcs these days have i tuned in during the wrong days or did they drop him?
He casted every day and every match of the NA groups didn't he?
On May 29 2015 04:15 SharkStarcraft wrote: on another note what about nathanias? i dont see him much at wcs these days have i tuned in during the wrong days or did they drop him?
On May 29 2015 04:15 SharkStarcraft wrote: on another note what about nathanias? i dont see him much at wcs these days have i tuned in during the wrong days or did they drop him?
On May 29 2015 04:15 SharkStarcraft wrote: on another note what about nathanias? i dont see him much at wcs these days have i tuned in during the wrong days or did they drop him?
On May 29 2015 04:02 Larkin wrote: can people stop saying Snute is the best foreigner now because he clearly isn't anymore now SHs have been nerfed
So much this. Even though I'm not sure who is the best foreigner atm.
bunny is so far ahead of any other
yeah probably Bunny, though Harstem seems equally capable of deep runs in tournaments against Koreans
What? When did Harstem have any deep run against koreans? His best result was ro8 last DH where he lost to both Gumiho and HyuN, winning vs foreigners.
On May 29 2015 04:15 SharkStarcraft wrote: on another note what about nathanias? i dont see him much at wcs these days have i tuned in during the wrong days or did they drop him?
he commentated all the 4 groups before since those were taking place in america together with huk, gretorp and kane. now the last 4 groups are played in cologne and rotti is casting the eu groups since he has problems with his visa i tink.
On May 29 2015 04:15 SharkStarcraft wrote: on another note what about nathanias? i dont see him much at wcs these days have i tuned in during the wrong days or did they drop him?
this is EU, he's NA based
ah right that was it, he's over there bit of a derp on my part, i definitely saw some of those games thanks anyway guys
On May 29 2015 04:02 Larkin wrote: can people stop saying Snute is the best foreigner now because he clearly isn't anymore now SHs have been nerfed
So much this. Even though I'm not sure who is the best foreigner atm.
bunny is so far ahead of any other
yeah probably Bunny, though Harstem seems equally capable of deep runs in tournaments against Koreans
What? When did Harstem have any deep run against koreans? His best result was ro8 last DH where he lost to both Gumiho and HyuN, winning vs foreigners.
Tournaments with Koreans in* :p
Haha yeah bracket luck is a good skill to have :p
I do think Harstem can take series off of koreans, but he's got a long way to go until he's on the level of Bunny.
On May 29 2015 04:21 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Man, best Korean Zerg out in both GSL and S2SL kind of early, and now best foreign Zerg out of WCS in Ro32 in last place... wtf happened to this race?
well, with how they played, it seemed they took all of their collective prize winnings and went Ibiza for a weekend of drugs and alcohol and then flew back to play their games with strategies that they came up with at 4 am on a dance floor somewhere
On May 29 2015 04:21 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Man, best Korean Zerg out in both GSL and S2SL kind of early, and now best foreign Zerg out of WCS in Ro32 in last place... wtf happened to this race?
On May 29 2015 04:21 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Man, best Korean Zerg out in both GSL and S2SL kind of early, and now best foreign Zerg out of WCS in Ro32 in last place... wtf happened to this race?
On May 29 2015 04:21 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Man, best Korean Zerg out in both GSL and S2SL kind of early, and now best foreign Zerg out of WCS in Ro32 in last place... wtf happened to this race?
arent you Zerg, maybe your time is now
I'd have to get out of gold league first
I'm in Bronze right now, dude. Only started laddering again recently.
On May 29 2015 04:21 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Man, best Korean Zerg out in both GSL and S2SL kind of early, and now best foreign Zerg out of WCS in Ro32 in last place... wtf happened to this race?
On May 29 2015 04:21 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Man, best Korean Zerg out in both GSL and S2SL kind of early, and now best foreign Zerg out of WCS in Ro32 in last place... wtf happened to this race?
well, with how they played, it seemed they took all of their collective prize winnings and went Ibiza for a weekend of drugs and alcohol and then flew back to play their games with strategies that they came up with at 4 am on a dance floor somewhere
Dunno what you're talking about but Byul and Life looked ON POINT this week, imba Protoss Widow Mines BLIZZ NERF PL0X
Nope. Just a ton of poor play. Ibiza would be to mild for them, give them a weekend in the capital of homosexuality, prostitutes, semi-legalized drugs and alcohol ^_^
and i thought this was going to be a decent series. Little did I know Hydra was going to make the stupid decision of trying to cheese in a non-ZvZ match
On May 29 2015 04:29 Aocowns wrote: and i thought this was going to be a decent series. Little did I know Hydra was going to make the stupid decision of trying to cheese in a non-ZvZ match
On May 29 2015 04:29 Ej_ wrote: it's Stephano #1 and then Naniwa, Huk (maybe), Jinro in random order. Tier 2 is Nerchio, Sen, Thorzain, Vortix, Scarlett and Snute in random order
On May 29 2015 04:29 Ej_ wrote: it's Stephano #1 and then Naniwa, Huk (maybe), Jinro in random order. Tier 2 is Nerchio, Sen, Thorzain, Vortix, Scarlett and Snute in random order
Jinro, Stephano, Nani, Sen, Scarlett imo
EDIT Switched Huk out
even as a scarlett fan, Huk above Scarlett in an all time list for sure
On May 29 2015 04:29 Aocowns wrote: and i thought this was going to be a decent series. Little did I know Hydra was going to make the stupid decision of trying to cheese in a non-ZvZ match
But who's actually winning?
lilbow would, assuming he was good at this game. no probe production while consistently floating 100-150 minerals with his pressure, making a random 5th gate that was way too late to be relevant, and late teching made this game much closer than it should be. and it still isnt particularily close
On May 29 2015 04:29 Ej_ wrote: it's Stephano #1 and then Naniwa, Huk (maybe), Jinro in random order. Tier 2 is Nerchio, Sen, Thorzain, Vortix, Scarlett and Snute in random order
Jinro, Stephano, Nani, Sen, Scarlett imo
EDIT Switched Huk out
even as a scarlett fan, Huk above Scarlett in an all time list for sure
On May 29 2015 04:29 Ej_ wrote: it's Stephano #1 and then Naniwa, Huk (maybe), Jinro in random order. Tier 2 is Nerchio, Sen, Thorzain, Vortix, Scarlett and Snute in random order
Jinro, Stephano, Nani, Sen, Scarlett imo
EDIT Switched Huk out
even as a scarlett fan, Huk above Scarlett in an all time list for sure
idk both of them have sick good achievements. Also Mana would have to go in there somewhere too. Only other foreigner to make it through up and down matches.
On May 29 2015 04:29 Aocowns wrote: and i thought this was going to be a decent series. Little did I know Hydra was going to make the stupid decision of trying to cheese in a non-ZvZ match
But who's actually winning?
lilbow would, assuming he was good at this game. no probe production while consistently floating 100-150 minerals with his pressure, making a random 5th gate that was way too late to be relevant, and late teching made this game much closer than it should be. and it still isnt particularily close
Just so that I'm clear, he's in a winning position but still might lose?
On May 29 2015 04:29 Aocowns wrote: and i thought this was going to be a decent series. Little did I know Hydra was going to make the stupid decision of trying to cheese in a non-ZvZ match
But who's actually winning?
lilbow would, assuming he was good at this game. no probe production while consistently floating 100-150 minerals with his pressure, making a random 5th gate that was way too late to be relevant, and late teching made this game much closer than it should be. and it still isnt particularily close
Just so that I'm clear, he's in a winning position but still might lose?
On May 29 2015 04:29 Aocowns wrote: and i thought this was going to be a decent series. Little did I know Hydra was going to make the stupid decision of trying to cheese in a non-ZvZ match
But who's actually winning?
lilbow would, assuming he was good at this game. no probe production while consistently floating 100-150 minerals with his pressure, making a random 5th gate that was way too late to be relevant, and late teching made this game much closer than it should be. and it still isnt particularily close
Just so that I'm clear, he's in a winning position but still might lose?
Yeah, Lilbow losing this would be one of the biggest foreigner moments of 2015 imo
On May 29 2015 04:29 Aocowns wrote: and i thought this was going to be a decent series. Little did I know Hydra was going to make the stupid decision of trying to cheese in a non-ZvZ match
But who's actually winning?
lilbow would, assuming he was good at this game. no probe production while consistently floating 100-150 minerals with his pressure, making a random 5th gate that was way too late to be relevant, and late teching made this game much closer than it should be. and it still isnt particularily close
Just so that I'm clear, he's in a winning position but still might lose?
On May 29 2015 04:29 Ej_ wrote: it's Stephano #1 and then Naniwa, Huk (maybe), Jinro in random order. Tier 2 is Nerchio, Sen, Thorzain, Vortix, Scarlett and Snute in random order
Jinro, Stephano, Nani, Sen, Scarlett imo
EDIT Switched Huk out
even as a scarlett fan, Huk above Scarlett in an all time list for sure
that one is really hard, maybe Huk but a tiiiiiiiiny bit.... but im not sure
On May 29 2015 04:29 Ej_ wrote: it's Stephano #1 and then Naniwa, Huk (maybe), Jinro in random order. Tier 2 is Nerchio, Sen, Thorzain, Vortix, Scarlett and Snute in random order
Jinro, Stephano, Nani, Sen, Scarlett imo
EDIT Switched Huk out
even as a scarlett fan, Huk above Scarlett in an all time list for sure
that one is really hard, maybe Huk but a tiiiiiiiiny bit.... but im not sure
Can someone explain why after like 5 years, people still try to beat blink stalker sentry with roach hydra? When has that ever worked without like a 50+ supply lead?
On May 29 2015 04:38 Poorlilrich wrote: Can someone explain why after like 5 years, people still try to beat blink stalker sentry with roach hydra? When has that ever worked without like a 50+ supply lead?
On May 29 2015 04:38 Poorlilrich wrote: Can someone explain why after like 5 years, people still try to beat blink stalker sentry with roach hydra? When has that ever worked without like a 50+ supply lead?
because it's the only composition that works without a huge lead
On May 29 2015 04:29 Ej_ wrote: it's Stephano #1 and then Naniwa, Huk (maybe), Jinro in random order. Tier 2 is Nerchio, Sen, Thorzain, Vortix, Scarlett and Snute in random order
Jinro, Stephano, Nani, Sen, Scarlett imo
EDIT Switched Huk out
even as a scarlett fan, Huk above Scarlett in an all time list for sure
that one is really hard, maybe Huk but a tiiiiiiiiny bit.... but im not sure
Stephano > Jinro > Naniwa > Scarlet > Huk for me
I feel like Idra needs to get in there somewhere. Pretty good GSL performances, an IEM Gold. And Sen. Sen while barely playing is still a champion. IIRC the tournament he won in HotS was played in between him placing well or winning a HS tournament
On May 29 2015 04:38 Poorlilrich wrote: Can someone explain why after like 5 years, people still try to beat blink stalker sentry with roach hydra? When has that ever worked without like a 50+ supply lead?
Aside the fact that the game started with a BO loss for hydra, do you have any suggestion? Roach hydra is still the best midgame composition against mass stalkers.
On May 29 2015 04:29 Aocowns wrote: and i thought this was going to be a decent series. Little did I know Hydra was going to make the stupid decision of trying to cheese in a non-ZvZ match
But who's actually winning?
lilbow would, assuming he was good at this game. no probe production while consistently floating 100-150 minerals with his pressure, making a random 5th gate that was way too late to be relevant, and late teching made this game much closer than it should be. and it still isnt particularily close
On May 29 2015 04:38 Poorlilrich wrote: Can someone explain why after like 5 years, people still try to beat blink stalker sentry with roach hydra? When has that ever worked without like a 50+ supply lead?
because it's the only composition that works without a huge lead
On May 29 2015 04:38 Poorlilrich wrote: Can someone explain why after like 5 years, people still try to beat blink stalker sentry with roach hydra? When has that ever worked without like a 50+ supply lead?
You usually die if you try to get anything else, and i guess people still keep opening that Blizzard unit description list and find themselves thinking that making lots of the unit that hardcounters the entire protoss army should work
On May 29 2015 04:38 Poorlilrich wrote: Can someone explain why after like 5 years, people still try to beat blink stalker sentry with roach hydra? When has that ever worked without like a 50+ supply lead?
Especially right now without any Swarmhost late game, a lot of times you get forced into roach hydra to survive mid game and then have to all-in from there cause you're not in a position to transition into a viable late game from there.
Other than the games, is anybody else impressed by the production? I feel like they stepped it even up. I enjoyed the little video clips at the beginning a lot and the new animations look great imo.
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
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On May 29 2015 04:38 Poorlilrich wrote: Can someone explain why after like 5 years, people still try to beat blink stalker sentry with roach hydra? When has that ever worked without like a 50+ supply lead?
Especially right now without any Swarmhost late game, a lot of times you get forced into roach hydra to survive mid game and then have to all-in from there cause you're not in a position to transition into a viable late game from there.
u should just all be like Life, open 3 hatch before pool every game and win GSL, then drop out vs proxy 2gate
On May 29 2015 04:38 Poorlilrich wrote: Can someone explain why after like 5 years, people still try to beat blink stalker sentry with roach hydra? When has that ever worked without like a 50+ supply lead?
because it's the only composition that works without a huge lead
but I'm sure you could coach pros to do better
that's not true though
So what do you make? Infestors? It's not very good because the blink stalker timing hits when you have 1 fungal per infestor which makes them basically useless.
On May 29 2015 04:41 IceBerrY wrote: Good job Lilbow.
Other than the games, is anybody else impressed by the production? I feel like they stepped it even up. I enjoyed the little video clips at the beginning a lot and the new animations look great imo.
Yeah, it's very good, especially compared to Season 1.
On May 29 2015 04:38 Poorlilrich wrote: Can someone explain why after like 5 years, people still try to beat blink stalker sentry with roach hydra? When has that ever worked without like a 50+ supply lead?
Especially right now without any Swarmhost late game, a lot of times you get forced into roach hydra to survive mid game and then have to all-in from there cause you're not in a position to transition into a viable late game from there.
please stop thinking about ZvP =P There are only T's and Z's in your group, I hope you prepared well =D
On May 29 2015 04:41 IceBerrY wrote: Good job Lilbow.
Other than the games, is anybody else impressed by the production? I feel like they stepped it even up. I enjoyed the little video clips at the beginning a lot and the new animations look great imo.
On May 29 2015 04:41 IceBerrY wrote: Good job Lilbow.
Other than the games, is anybody else impressed by the production? I feel like they stepped it even up. I enjoyed the little video clips at the beginning a lot and the new animations look great imo.
Yeah I agree it looks good, really good player shots as well.
On May 29 2015 04:38 Poorlilrich wrote: Can someone explain why after like 5 years, people still try to beat blink stalker sentry with roach hydra? When has that ever worked without like a 50+ supply lead?
Especially right now without any Swarmhost late game, a lot of times you get forced into roach hydra to survive mid game and then have to all-in from there cause you're not in a position to transition into a viable late game from there.
On May 29 2015 04:29 Ej_ wrote: it's Stephano #1 and then Naniwa, Huk (maybe), Jinro in random order. Tier 2 is Nerchio, Sen, Thorzain, Vortix, Scarlett and Snute in random order
Jinro, Stephano, Nani, Sen, Scarlett imo
EDIT Switched Huk out
even as a scarlett fan, Huk above Scarlett in an all time list for sure
that one is really hard, maybe Huk but a tiiiiiiiiny bit.... but im not sure
Stephano > Jinro > Naniwa > Scarlet > Huk for me
I feel like Idra needs to get in there somewhere. Pretty good GSL performances, an IEM Gold. And Sen. Sen while barely playing is still a champion. IIRC the tournament he won in HotS was played in between him placing well or winning a HS tournament
Yeah id change out Jinro and Scarlett for Idra and Sen. My memory is hazy about Jinro, but did he do anything after his GSL runs? Runs that were based on terran favoured maps with a pretty new greedy macro terran style that no one else really did and knew how to play against yet, mind you
On May 29 2015 04:41 IceBerrY wrote: Good job Lilbow.
Other than the games, is anybody else impressed by the production? I feel like they stepped it even up. I enjoyed the little video clips at the beginning a lot and the new animations look great imo.
On May 29 2015 04:38 Poorlilrich wrote: Can someone explain why after like 5 years, people still try to beat blink stalker sentry with roach hydra? When has that ever worked without like a 50+ supply lead?
5 years ago, no one knew how to beat Stalker sentry, not really. Luckily not many people knew how to micro and FF so it was ok.
Then they got good, but it was ok cause Stephano made the fast 3 base max roach.
But then Protoss got better, but that was ok because of infestor/bl.
But then HotS came out, but it was ok cause no one really knew what they were doing.
Then Stalker/sentry got good, but it was ok because SH existed.
On May 29 2015 04:29 Ej_ wrote: it's Stephano #1 and then Naniwa, Huk (maybe), Jinro in random order. Tier 2 is Nerchio, Sen, Thorzain, Vortix, Scarlett and Snute in random order
Jinro, Stephano, Nani, Sen, Scarlett imo
EDIT Switched Huk out
even as a scarlett fan, Huk above Scarlett in an all time list for sure
that one is really hard, maybe Huk but a tiiiiiiiiny bit.... but im not sure
Stephano > Jinro > Naniwa > Scarlet > Huk for me
I feel like Idra needs to get in there somewhere. Pretty good GSL performances, an IEM Gold. And Sen. Sen while barely playing is still a champion. IIRC the tournament he won in HotS was played in between him placing well or winning a HS tournament
Yeah id change out Jinro and Scarlett for Idra and Sen. My memory is hazy about Jinro, but did he do anything after his GSL runs? Runs that were based on terran favoured maps with a pretty new greedy macro terran style that no one else really did and knew how to play against yet, mind you
Jinro has an MLG gold I think it was from around the same time. And Jinro was always better than idra. It was kind of their thing
On May 29 2015 04:38 Poorlilrich wrote: Can someone explain why after like 5 years, people still try to beat blink stalker sentry with roach hydra? When has that ever worked without like a 50+ supply lead?
5 years ago, no one knew how to beat Stalker sentry, not really. Luckily not many people knew how to micro and FF so it was ok.
Then they got good, but it was ok cause Stephano made the fast 3 base max roach.
But then Protoss got better, but that was ok because of infestor/bl.
But then HotS came out, but it was ok cause no one really knew what they were doing.
Then Stalker/sentry got good, but it was ok because SH existed.
On May 29 2015 04:38 Poorlilrich wrote: Can someone explain why after like 5 years, people still try to beat blink stalker sentry with roach hydra? When has that ever worked without like a 50+ supply lead?
5 years ago, no one knew how to beat Stalker sentry, not really. Luckily not many people knew how to micro and FF so it was ok.
Then they got good, but it was ok cause Stephano made the fast 3 base max roach.
But then Protoss got better, but that was ok because of infestor/bl.
But then HotS came out, but it was ok cause no one really knew what they were doing.
Then Stalker/sentry got good, but it was ok because SH existed.
On May 29 2015 04:29 Ej_ wrote: it's Stephano #1 and then Naniwa, Huk (maybe), Jinro in random order. Tier 2 is Nerchio, Sen, Thorzain, Vortix, Scarlett and Snute in random order
Jinro, Stephano, Nani, Sen, Scarlett imo
EDIT Switched Huk out
even as a scarlett fan, Huk above Scarlett in an all time list for sure
that one is really hard, maybe Huk but a tiiiiiiiiny bit.... but im not sure
Stephano > Jinro > Naniwa > Scarlet > Huk for me
I feel like Idra needs to get in there somewhere. Pretty good GSL performances, an IEM Gold. And Sen. Sen while barely playing is still a champion. IIRC the tournament he won in HotS was played in between him placing well or winning a HS tournament
Yeah id change out Jinro and Scarlett for Idra and Sen. My memory is hazy about Jinro, but did he do anything after his GSL runs? Runs that were based on terran favoured maps with a pretty new greedy macro terran style that no one else really did and knew how to play against yet, mind you
Not really. He won an MLG before those GSL runs though!
He stayed in GSL for a while after those ro4 runs, but it was back when it was very hard to fall out of code s.
On May 29 2015 04:38 Poorlilrich wrote: Can someone explain why after like 5 years, people still try to beat blink stalker sentry with roach hydra? When has that ever worked without like a 50+ supply lead?
5 years ago, no one knew how to beat Stalker sentry, not really. Luckily not many people knew how to micro and FF so it was ok.
Then they got good, but it was ok cause Stephano made the fast 3 base max roach.
But then Protoss got better, but that was ok because of infestor/bl.
But then HotS came out, but it was ok cause no one really knew what they were doing.
Then Stalker/sentry got good, but it was ok because SH existed.
Now SH don't exist.
so solution is get good?
the solution is to make something for zerg OP again so we can deal with it
On May 29 2015 04:38 Poorlilrich wrote: Can someone explain why after like 5 years, people still try to beat blink stalker sentry with roach hydra? When has that ever worked without like a 50+ supply lead?
5 years ago, no one knew how to beat Stalker sentry, not really. Luckily not many people knew how to micro and FF so it was ok.
Then they got good, but it was ok cause Stephano made the fast 3 base max roach.
But then Protoss got better, but that was ok because of infestor/bl.
But then HotS came out, but it was ok cause no one really knew what they were doing.
Then Stalker/sentry got good, but it was ok because SH existed.
Now SH don't exist.
so solution is get good?
the solution is to make something for zerg OP again so we can deal with it
On May 29 2015 04:29 Ej_ wrote: it's Stephano #1 and then Naniwa, Huk (maybe), Jinro in random order. Tier 2 is Nerchio, Sen, Thorzain, Vortix, Scarlett and Snute in random order
Jinro, Stephano, Nani, Sen, Scarlett imo
EDIT Switched Huk out
even as a scarlett fan, Huk above Scarlett in an all time list for sure
that one is really hard, maybe Huk but a tiiiiiiiiny bit.... but im not sure
Stephano > Jinro > Naniwa > Scarlet > Huk for me
I feel like Idra needs to get in there somewhere. Pretty good GSL performances, an IEM Gold. And Sen. Sen while barely playing is still a champion. IIRC the tournament he won in HotS was played in between him placing well or winning a HS tournament
Yeah id change out Jinro and Scarlett for Idra and Sen. My memory is hazy about Jinro, but did he do anything after his GSL runs? Runs that were based on terran favoured maps with a pretty new greedy macro terran style that no one else really did and knew how to play against yet, mind you
Not really. He won an MLG before those GSL runs though!
He stayed in GSL for a while after those ro4 runs, but it was back when it was very hard to fall out of code s.
He then made the finals of multiple code A qualifers and lost 2-1 quite often. To random IM players
On May 29 2015 04:29 Ej_ wrote: it's Stephano #1 and then Naniwa, Huk (maybe), Jinro in random order. Tier 2 is Nerchio, Sen, Thorzain, Vortix, Scarlett and Snute in random order
Jinro, Stephano, Nani, Sen, Scarlett imo
EDIT Switched Huk out
even as a scarlett fan, Huk above Scarlett in an all time list for sure
that one is really hard, maybe Huk but a tiiiiiiiiny bit.... but im not sure
Stephano > Jinro > Naniwa > Scarlet > Huk for me
I feel like Idra needs to get in there somewhere. Pretty good GSL performances, an IEM Gold. And Sen. Sen while barely playing is still a champion. IIRC the tournament he won in HotS was played in between him placing well or winning a HS tournament
Yeah I can't really argue with you on that. The top 4 for me all had periods of time where they struck fear into Korean hearts. Idra, Huk, and Sen have also had successful stretches so it's hard to say.
On May 29 2015 04:29 Ej_ wrote: it's Stephano #1 and then Naniwa, Huk (maybe), Jinro in random order. Tier 2 is Nerchio, Sen, Thorzain, Vortix, Scarlett and Snute in random order
Jinro, Stephano, Nani, Sen, Scarlett imo
EDIT Switched Huk out
even as a scarlett fan, Huk above Scarlett in an all time list for sure
that one is really hard, maybe Huk but a tiiiiiiiiny bit.... but im not sure
Stephano > Jinro > Naniwa > Scarlet > Huk for me
I feel like Idra needs to get in there somewhere. Pretty good GSL performances, an IEM Gold. And Sen. Sen while barely playing is still a champion. IIRC the tournament he won in HotS was played in between him placing well or winning a HS tournament
Yeah id change out Jinro and Scarlett for Idra and Sen. My memory is hazy about Jinro, but did he do anything after his GSL runs? Runs that were based on terran favoured maps with a pretty new greedy macro terran style that no one else really did and knew how to play against yet, mind you
Jinro has an MLG gold I think it was from around the same time. And Jinro was always better than idra. It was kind of their thing
oh right, think i remember him doing that now that you mention it lol
Idra had steam going for him though, he posted decent results for a lot longer. and honestly, i dont think fruitdealer and idra get enough credit for being top of korea ladder with that disgusting map pool with all those terrans lol
Rest in peace the Idra RO4 that shouldve been, my heart broke that day. I think thats the day SC2 jaded me beyond repair
On May 29 2015 04:38 Poorlilrich wrote: Can someone explain why after like 5 years, people still try to beat blink stalker sentry with roach hydra? When has that ever worked without like a 50+ supply lead?
5 years ago, no one knew how to beat Stalker sentry, not really. Luckily not many people knew how to micro and FF so it was ok.
Then they got good, but it was ok cause Stephano made the fast 3 base max roach.
But then Protoss got better, but that was ok because of infestor/bl.
But then HotS came out, but it was ok cause no one really knew what they were doing.
Then Stalker/sentry got good, but it was ok because SH existed.
Now SH don't exist.
so solution is get good?
the solution is to make something for zerg OP again so we can deal with it
On May 29 2015 04:38 Poorlilrich wrote: Can someone explain why after like 5 years, people still try to beat blink stalker sentry with roach hydra? When has that ever worked without like a 50+ supply lead?
5 years ago, no one knew how to beat Stalker sentry, not really. Luckily not many people knew how to micro and FF so it was ok.
Then they got good, but it was ok cause Stephano made the fast 3 base max roach.
But then Protoss got better, but that was ok because of infestor/bl.
But then HotS came out, but it was ok cause no one really knew what they were doing.
Then Stalker/sentry got good, but it was ok because SH existed.
Now SH don't exist.
so solution is get good?
You can either wait for some other player to solve it, gamble (like what Byul/Dark did in Kespa Cup) or try to jump on the other player making mistakes.
In a theoretical sense there are no good answers for Zerg in the current meta.
On May 29 2015 04:38 Poorlilrich wrote: Can someone explain why after like 5 years, people still try to beat blink stalker sentry with roach hydra? When has that ever worked without like a 50+ supply lead?
5 years ago, no one knew how to beat Stalker sentry, not really. Luckily not many people knew how to micro and FF so it was ok.
Then they got good, but it was ok cause Stephano made the fast 3 base max roach.
But then Protoss got better, but that was ok because of infestor/bl.
But then HotS came out, but it was ok cause no one really knew what they were doing.
Then Stalker/sentry got good, but it was ok because SH existed.
Now SH don't exist.
so solution is get good?
the solution is to make something for zerg OP again so we can deal with it
On May 29 2015 04:38 Poorlilrich wrote: Can someone explain why after like 5 years, people still try to beat blink stalker sentry with roach hydra? When has that ever worked without like a 50+ supply lead?
5 years ago, no one knew how to beat Stalker sentry, not really. Luckily not many people knew how to micro and FF so it was ok.
Then they got good, but it was ok cause Stephano made the fast 3 base max roach.
But then Protoss got better, but that was ok because of infestor/bl.
But then HotS came out, but it was ok cause no one really knew what they were doing.
Then Stalker/sentry got good, but it was ok because SH existed.
Now SH don't exist.
so solution is get good?
the solution is to make something for zerg OP again so we can deal with it
On May 29 2015 04:29 Ej_ wrote: it's Stephano #1 and then Naniwa, Huk (maybe), Jinro in random order. Tier 2 is Nerchio, Sen, Thorzain, Vortix, Scarlett and Snute in random order
Jinro, Stephano, Nani, Sen, Scarlett imo
EDIT Switched Huk out
even as a scarlett fan, Huk above Scarlett in an all time list for sure
that one is really hard, maybe Huk but a tiiiiiiiiny bit.... but im not sure
Stephano > Jinro > Naniwa > Scarlet > Huk for me
I feel like Idra needs to get in there somewhere. Pretty good GSL performances, an IEM Gold. And Sen. Sen while barely playing is still a champion. IIRC the tournament he won in HotS was played in between him placing well or winning a HS tournament
Yeah I can't really argue with you on that. The top 4 for me all had periods of time where they struck fear into Korean hearts. Idra, Huk, and Sen have also had successful stretches so it's hard to say.
Except Polt, Polt didn't fear no stinking foreigner
Also Idra was always regarded as an amazing player with a shitty personality to pretty much any of the Koreans in the beginning
On May 29 2015 04:29 Ej_ wrote: it's Stephano #1 and then Naniwa, Huk (maybe), Jinro in random order. Tier 2 is Nerchio, Sen, Thorzain, Vortix, Scarlett and Snute in random order
Jinro, Stephano, Nani, Sen, Scarlett imo
EDIT Switched Huk out
even as a scarlett fan, Huk above Scarlett in an all time list for sure
that one is really hard, maybe Huk but a tiiiiiiiiny bit.... but im not sure
Stephano > Jinro > Naniwa > Scarlet > Huk for me
I feel like Idra needs to get in there somewhere. Pretty good GSL performances, an IEM Gold. And Sen. Sen while barely playing is still a champion. IIRC the tournament he won in HotS was played in between him placing well or winning a HS tournament
Yeah I can't really argue with you on that. The top 4 for me all had periods of time where they struck fear into Korean hearts. Idra, Huk, and Sen have also had successful stretches so it's hard to say.
Except Polt, Polt didn't fear no stinking foreigner
Also Idra was always regarded as an amazing player with a shitty personality to pretty much any of the Koreans in the beginning
On May 29 2015 04:29 Ej_ wrote: it's Stephano #1 and then Naniwa, Huk (maybe), Jinro in random order. Tier 2 is Nerchio, Sen, Thorzain, Vortix, Scarlett and Snute in random order
Jinro, Stephano, Nani, Sen, Scarlett imo
EDIT Switched Huk out
even as a scarlett fan, Huk above Scarlett in an all time list for sure
that one is really hard, maybe Huk but a tiiiiiiiiny bit.... but im not sure
Stephano > Jinro > Naniwa > Scarlet > Huk for me
I feel like Idra needs to get in there somewhere. Pretty good GSL performances, an IEM Gold. And Sen. Sen while barely playing is still a champion. IIRC the tournament he won in HotS was played in between him placing well or winning a HS tournament
Yeah I can't really argue with you on that. The top 4 for me all had periods of time where they struck fear into Korean hearts. Idra, Huk, and Sen have also had successful stretches so it's hard to say.
Except Polt, Polt didn't fear no stinking foreigner
Also Idra was always regarded as an amazing player with a shitty personality to pretty much any of the Koreans in the beginning
lol okay maybe "fear" is the wrong word to use maybe I should have said "respected"
On May 29 2015 04:38 Poorlilrich wrote: Can someone explain why after like 5 years, people still try to beat blink stalker sentry with roach hydra? When has that ever worked without like a 50+ supply lead?
5 years ago, no one knew how to beat Stalker sentry, not really. Luckily not many people knew how to micro and FF so it was ok.
Then they got good, but it was ok cause Stephano made the fast 3 base max roach.
But then Protoss got better, but that was ok because of infestor/bl.
But then HotS came out, but it was ok cause no one really knew what they were doing.
Then Stalker/sentry got good, but it was ok because SH existed.
Now SH don't exist.
so solution is get good?
the solution is to make something for zerg OP again so we can deal with it
On May 29 2015 04:38 Poorlilrich wrote: Can someone explain why after like 5 years, people still try to beat blink stalker sentry with roach hydra? When has that ever worked without like a 50+ supply lead?
5 years ago, no one knew how to beat Stalker sentry, not really. Luckily not many people knew how to micro and FF so it was ok.
Then they got good, but it was ok cause Stephano made the fast 3 base max roach.
But then Protoss got better, but that was ok because of infestor/bl.
But then HotS came out, but it was ok cause no one really knew what they were doing.
Then Stalker/sentry got good, but it was ok because SH existed.
Now SH don't exist.
so solution is get good?
the solution is to make something for zerg OP again so we can deal with it
On May 29 2015 04:29 Ej_ wrote: it's Stephano #1 and then Naniwa, Huk (maybe), Jinro in random order. Tier 2 is Nerchio, Sen, Thorzain, Vortix, Scarlett and Snute in random order
Jinro, Stephano, Nani, Sen, Scarlett imo
EDIT Switched Huk out
even as a scarlett fan, Huk above Scarlett in an all time list for sure
that one is really hard, maybe Huk but a tiiiiiiiiny bit.... but im not sure
Stephano > Jinro > Naniwa > Scarlet > Huk for me
I feel like Idra needs to get in there somewhere. Pretty good GSL performances, an IEM Gold. And Sen. Sen while barely playing is still a champion. IIRC the tournament he won in HotS was played in between him placing well or winning a HS tournament
Yeah I can't really argue with you on that. The top 4 for me all had periods of time where they struck fear into Korean hearts. Idra, Huk, and Sen have also had successful stretches so it's hard to say.
Except Polt, Polt didn't fear no stinking foreigner
Also Idra was always regarded as an amazing player with a shitty personality to pretty much any of the Koreans in the beginning
lol okay maybe "fear" is the wrong word to use maybe I should have said "respected"
I'd still argue that Idra and Huk belong in that category as well.
On May 29 2015 04:29 Ej_ wrote: it's Stephano #1 and then Naniwa, Huk (maybe), Jinro in random order. Tier 2 is Nerchio, Sen, Thorzain, Vortix, Scarlett and Snute in random order
Jinro, Stephano, Nani, Sen, Scarlett imo
EDIT Switched Huk out
even as a scarlett fan, Huk above Scarlett in an all time list for sure
that one is really hard, maybe Huk but a tiiiiiiiiny bit.... but im not sure
Stephano > Jinro > Naniwa > Scarlet > Huk for me
I feel like Idra needs to get in there somewhere. Pretty good GSL performances, an IEM Gold. And Sen. Sen while barely playing is still a champion. IIRC the tournament he won in HotS was played in between him placing well or winning a HS tournament
Yeah I can't really argue with you on that. The top 4 for me all had periods of time where they struck fear into Korean hearts. Idra, Huk, and Sen have also had successful stretches so it's hard to say.
Except Polt, Polt didn't fear no stinking foreigner
Also Idra was always regarded as an amazing player with a shitty personality to pretty much any of the Koreans in the beginning
lol okay maybe "fear" is the wrong word to use maybe I should have said "respected"
I'd still argue that Idra and Huk belong in that category as well.
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
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★★★ - Good game (3)
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Your vote: Recommend Winners' Match Game 2?
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On May 29 2015 04:51 stuchiu wrote: He should have seen tht move coming, but I guess no one really pays attention to burrow spikes cosmetic.
I don't like that Hydra killed him instead of letting the Protoss be forcefielded out of his base.
Yeah that was a beautifully poetic move, then lilbow decided to donate his sentries.. both felt good and both felt like justice, but poetic justice always wins
On May 29 2015 04:54 DJHelium wrote: Is it better to mix in some zealots vs that type of burrow roach play? Makes it more punishing for the zerg to unborrow on top of you.
I think this build is going to start becoming common enough on coda that protosses may start vetoeing it, much like the Byul proxy hatch made terrans veto expedition lost
On May 29 2015 04:54 nick00bot wrote: I think this build is going to start becoming common enough on coda that protosses may start vetoeing it, much like the Byul proxy hatch made terrans veto expedition lost
On May 29 2015 04:38 Poorlilrich wrote: Can someone explain why after like 5 years, people still try to beat blink stalker sentry with roach hydra? When has that ever worked without like a 50+ supply lead?
5 years ago, no one knew how to beat Stalker sentry, not really. Luckily not many people knew how to micro and FF so it was ok.
Then they got good, but it was ok cause Stephano made the fast 3 base max roach.
But then Protoss got better, but that was ok because of infestor/bl.
But then HotS came out, but it was ok cause no one really knew what they were doing.
Then Stalker/sentry got good, but it was ok because SH existed.
Now SH don't exist.
so solution is get good?
the obvious solution is broodlord infestor returning
On May 29 2015 04:38 Poorlilrich wrote: Can someone explain why after like 5 years, people still try to beat blink stalker sentry with roach hydra? When has that ever worked without like a 50+ supply lead?
5 years ago, no one knew how to beat Stalker sentry, not really. Luckily not many people knew how to micro and FF so it was ok.
Then they got good, but it was ok cause Stephano made the fast 3 base max roach.
But then Protoss got better, but that was ok because of infestor/bl.
But then HotS came out, but it was ok cause no one really knew what they were doing.
Then Stalker/sentry got good, but it was ok because SH existed.
Now SH don't exist.
so solution is get good?
the obvious solution is broodlord infestor returning
I'd rather play against Broodlord Infestor than Swarmhosts.
On May 29 2015 04:54 opisska wrote: Who the hell is Kelhazur and how the fuck did he 2-0 Snute out of the group?!
Kalhazur is pretty good. He was the runner up of last season's breaking out. Frankly he was the better overall player. It was only his abysmal TvT (at the time) that let him down vs intense in the finals.
On May 29 2015 04:38 Poorlilrich wrote: Can someone explain why after like 5 years, people still try to beat blink stalker sentry with roach hydra? When has that ever worked without like a 50+ supply lead?
5 years ago, no one knew how to beat Stalker sentry, not really. Luckily not many people knew how to micro and FF so it was ok.
Then they got good, but it was ok cause Stephano made the fast 3 base max roach.
But then Protoss got better, but that was ok because of infestor/bl.
But then HotS came out, but it was ok cause no one really knew what they were doing.
Then Stalker/sentry got good, but it was ok because SH existed.
Now SH don't exist.
so solution is get good?
the obvious solution is broodlord infestor returning
I'd rather play against Broodlord Infestor than Swarmhosts.
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On May 29 2015 04:54 nick00bot wrote: I think this build is going to start becoming common enough on coda that protosses may start vetoeing it, much like the Byul proxy hatch made terrans veto expedition lost
Wasn't this build better against protoss?
Well It's good against both really, But it got famous for beating Marineking and innovation. You are right tho in that protosses veto the map too, though for them it's also because of gold bases and hard to defend thirds
Yes. Thought it was gonna be the same old story where the foreigner takes the first game then gets rekt in the last two. Just need Kelthurzad to come through
On May 29 2015 05:06 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: I know it's not right, but I simply do not enjoy watching Protoss win, period.
It's not your fault, never in the history of sc2 has anyone but protoss enjoyed watching protoss win. Protoss has been villainized since WoL beta 4 gate lol
On May 29 2015 05:06 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: I know it's not right, but I simply do not enjoy watching Protoss win, period.
Did you enjoy herO beating Curious on Foxtrot Labs with one carrier?
Okay, fine, 1 in like 100 games Protoss can be fun, but most of the time it's just not cool.
but you feeling like this is also why it's impossible to take any of your "criticism" of Protoss play seriously. You'll always twist events and facts to suit your own worldview and it's pretty annoying and whiny.
On May 29 2015 05:03 Elentos wrote: Why the fuck did Hydra leave his natural?
probably thought he could kill the pylon and/or save the 3rd?
Yeah, leaving the natural was a bit perplexing. Did he not have any Roach Warren thrown down?
He did start one, so he probably could have made roaches by the end.
Interesting. Ah well, what's done is done. Lilbow played well and moves on to the Ro16. I'm not too sure how well Hydra will do this season if he keeps playing like he did in game 3. But you never really know with pro-gamers.
On May 29 2015 05:06 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: I know it's not right, but I simply do not enjoy watching Protoss win, period.
Did you enjoy herO beating Curious on Foxtrot Labs with one carrier?
Okay, fine, 1 in like 100 games Protoss can be fun, but most of the time it's just not cool.
but you feeling like this is also why it's impossible to take any of your "criticism" of Protoss play seriously. You'll always twist events and facts to suit your own worldview and it's pretty annoying and whiny.
That said, the great book of Protoss bullshit has a few too many pages.
On May 29 2015 05:06 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: I know it's not right, but I simply do not enjoy watching Protoss win, period.
Did you enjoy herO beating Curious on Foxtrot Labs with one carrier?
Okay, fine, 1 in like 100 games Protoss can be fun, but most of the time it's just not cool.
but you feeling like this is also why it's impossible to take any of your "criticism" of Protoss play seriously. You'll always twist events and facts to suit your own worldview and it's pretty annoying and whiny.
tfw you realize pretty much half the people to ever watch or touch this game has felt the same as him
On May 29 2015 05:06 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: I know it's not right, but I simply do not enjoy watching Protoss win, period.
It's not your fault, never in the history of sc2 has anyone but protoss enjoyed watching protoss win. Protoss has been villainized since WoL beta 4 gate lol
I hated protoss for the longest time, so I tried to play with them and realized it does take some skill to pull off the bullshit. I'm happy to see a foreigner win every time
On May 29 2015 05:12 Ctone23 wrote: I hated protoss for the longest time, so I tried to play with them and realized it does take some skill to pull off the bullshit. I'm happy to see a foreigner win every time
On May 29 2015 05:06 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: I know it's not right, but I simply do not enjoy watching Protoss win, period.
Did you enjoy herO beating Curious on Foxtrot Labs with one carrier?
Okay, fine, 1 in like 100 games Protoss can be fun, but most of the time it's just not cool.
but you feeling like this is also why it's impossible to take any of your "criticism" of Protoss play seriously. You'll always twist events and facts to suit your own worldview and it's pretty annoying and whiny.
There are a lot of people who share his view. A LOT of people. So many people infact that we finally got Blizzard to nerf Warpgate. And Elentos said it very nice with the Book of Protoss Bullshit having too many pages.
On May 29 2015 05:06 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: I know it's not right, but I simply do not enjoy watching Protoss win, period.
It's not your fault, never in the history of sc2 has anyone but protoss enjoyed watching protoss win. Protoss has been villainized since WoL beta 4 gate lol
Stop pulling facts out of your ass.
okay you caught me, I exaggerated slightly
But seriously, it kind of isnt his fault, cus Protoss has actually been villainized since WoL beta lol
On May 29 2015 05:06 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: I know it's not right, but I simply do not enjoy watching Protoss win, period.
Did you enjoy herO beating Curious on Foxtrot Labs with one carrier?
Okay, fine, 1 in like 100 games Protoss can be fun, but most of the time it's just not cool.
but you feeling like this is also why it's impossible to take any of your "criticism" of Protoss play seriously. You'll always twist events and facts to suit your own worldview and it's pretty annoying and whiny.
On May 29 2015 05:06 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: I know it's not right, but I simply do not enjoy watching Protoss win, period.
Did you enjoy herO beating Curious on Foxtrot Labs with one carrier?
Okay, fine, 1 in like 100 games Protoss can be fun, but most of the time it's just not cool.
but you feeling like this is also why it's impossible to take any of your "criticism" of Protoss play seriously. You'll always twist events and facts to suit your own worldview and it's pretty annoying and whiny.
There are a lot of people who share his view. A LOT of people. So many people infact that we finally got Blizzard to nerf Warpgate. And Elentos said it very nice with the Book of Protoss Bullshit having too many pages.
meh I think all the races are fine.
you can't judge any of the races on foreigner play, period.
On May 29 2015 05:12 Ctone23 wrote: I hated protoss for the longest time, so I tried to play with them and realized it does take some skill to pull off the bullshit. I'm happy to see a foreigner win every time
all I know is that 1 gas 8-gate doesn't :D
never said I was a scholar on the book of bullshit! haha
On May 29 2015 05:12 Ctone23 wrote: I hated protoss for the longest time, so I tried to play with them and realized it does take some skill to pull off the bullshit. I'm happy to see a foreigner win every time
all I know is that 1 gas 8-gate doesn't :D
never said I was a scholar on the book of bullshit! haha
There is no better feeling than opening up the big book. When I'm angry at laddering as a Zerg player I unranked protoss and beat on people with hilarious proxies
On May 29 2015 05:06 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: I know it's not right, but I simply do not enjoy watching Protoss win, period.
Did you enjoy herO beating Curious on Foxtrot Labs with one carrier?
Okay, fine, 1 in like 100 games Protoss can be fun, but most of the time it's just not cool.
but you feeling like this is also why it's impossible to take any of your "criticism" of Protoss play seriously. You'll always twist events and facts to suit your own worldview and it's pretty annoying and whiny.
There are a lot of people who share his view. A LOT of people. So many people infact that we finally got Blizzard to nerf Warpgate. And Elentos said it very nice with the Book of Protoss Bullshit having too many pages.
meh I think all the races are fine.
you can't judge any of the races on foreigner play, period.
Oh yeah def, balance-wise we definitely shouldnt use these games as examples or analysis lol. But then this string of conversation is about the percieved bullshit of protoss's winning moments, which the race has a track record of winning awards for
On May 29 2015 05:12 Ctone23 wrote: I hated protoss for the longest time, so I tried to play with them and realized it does take some skill to pull off the bullshit. I'm happy to see a foreigner win every time
all I know is that 1 gas 8-gate doesn't :D
never said I was a scholar on the book of bullshit! haha
There is no better feeling than opening up the big book. When I'm angry at laddering as a Zerg player I unranked protoss and beat on people with hilarious proxies
I tried off-racing as Protoss for the first time in months yesterday. Now I feel dirty.
On May 29 2015 05:12 Ctone23 wrote: I hated protoss for the longest time, so I tried to play with them and realized it does take some skill to pull off the bullshit. I'm happy to see a foreigner win every time
all I know is that 1 gas 8-gate doesn't :D
never said I was a scholar on the book of bullshit! haha
There is no better feeling than opening up the big book. When I'm angry at laddering as a Zerg player I unranked protoss and beat on people with hilarious proxies
*shrug* I find super cheese keeps the games entertaining. Like if Has is playing you know I'm tuning in to that shit. Obviously I don't want to see mega cheese 100% of the games I watch but it is nice to see it spiced in.
On May 29 2015 05:12 Ctone23 wrote: I hated protoss for the longest time, so I tried to play with them and realized it does take some skill to pull off the bullshit. I'm happy to see a foreigner win every time
all I know is that 1 gas 8-gate doesn't :D
never said I was a scholar on the book of bullshit! haha
There is no better feeling than opening up the big book. When I'm angry at laddering as a Zerg player I unranked protoss and beat on people with hilarious proxies
That sounds like a lot of fun actually..... Hmmm
Its only fun if you don't think about it. Because if you realize that you're beating players roughly at your level with an off race proxy its kind of angering.
On May 29 2015 05:06 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: I know it's not right, but I simply do not enjoy watching Protoss win, period.
Did you enjoy herO beating Curious on Foxtrot Labs with one carrier?
Okay, fine, 1 in like 100 games Protoss can be fun, but most of the time it's just not cool.
but you feeling like this is also why it's impossible to take any of your "criticism" of Protoss play seriously. You'll always twist events and facts to suit your own worldview and it's pretty annoying and whiny.
There are a lot of people who share his view. A LOT of people. So many people infact that we finally got Blizzard to nerf Warpgate. And Elentos said it very nice with the Book of Protoss Bullshit having too many pages.
meh I think all the races are fine.
you can't judge any of the races on foreigner play, period.
On May 29 2015 05:12 Ctone23 wrote: I hated protoss for the longest time, so I tried to play with them and realized it does take some skill to pull off the bullshit. I'm happy to see a foreigner win every time
all I know is that 1 gas 8-gate doesn't :D
never said I was a scholar on the book of bullshit! haha
There is no better feeling than opening up the big book. When I'm angry at laddering as a Zerg player I unranked protoss and beat on people with hilarious proxies
On May 29 2015 05:12 Ctone23 wrote: I hated protoss for the longest time, so I tried to play with them and realized it does take some skill to pull off the bullshit. I'm happy to see a foreigner win every time
all I know is that 1 gas 8-gate doesn't :D
never said I was a scholar on the book of bullshit! haha
There is no better feeling than opening up the big book. When I'm angry at laddering as a Zerg player I unranked protoss and beat on people with hilarious proxies
I tried off-racing as Protoss for the first time in months yesterday. Now I feel dirty.
On May 29 2015 05:12 Ctone23 wrote: I hated protoss for the longest time, so I tried to play with them and realized it does take some skill to pull off the bullshit. I'm happy to see a foreigner win every time
all I know is that 1 gas 8-gate doesn't :D
never said I was a scholar on the book of bullshit! haha
There is no better feeling than opening up the big book. When I'm angry at laddering as a Zerg player I unranked protoss and beat on people with hilarious proxies
Have you guys all forgotten about the golden rule? "One should treat others as one would like others to treat oneself"
On May 29 2015 05:12 Ctone23 wrote: I hated protoss for the longest time, so I tried to play with them and realized it does take some skill to pull off the bullshit. I'm happy to see a foreigner win every time
all I know is that 1 gas 8-gate doesn't :D
never said I was a scholar on the book of bullshit! haha
There is no better feeling than opening up the big book. When I'm angry at laddering as a Zerg player I unranked protoss and beat on people with hilarious proxies
That sounds like a lot of fun actually..... Hmmm
Its only fun if you don't think about it. Because if you realize that you're beating players roughly at your level with an off race proxy its kind of angering.
Don't think, only proxy
I beat a Zerg objectively better than me going mass +3 stalkers. I didn't scout once, I lost my 3rd several times, I lost tons of probes to the mutas I didn't scout, but in the end none of that mattered because my army was unbeatable.
On May 29 2015 05:12 Ctone23 wrote: I hated protoss for the longest time, so I tried to play with them and realized it does take some skill to pull off the bullshit. I'm happy to see a foreigner win every time
all I know is that 1 gas 8-gate doesn't :D
never said I was a scholar on the book of bullshit! haha
There is no better feeling than opening up the big book. When I'm angry at laddering as a Zerg player I unranked protoss and beat on people with hilarious proxies
On May 29 2015 05:12 Ctone23 wrote: I hated protoss for the longest time, so I tried to play with them and realized it does take some skill to pull off the bullshit. I'm happy to see a foreigner win every time
all I know is that 1 gas 8-gate doesn't :D
never said I was a scholar on the book of bullshit! haha
There is no better feeling than opening up the big book. When I'm angry at laddering as a Zerg player I unranked protoss and beat on people with hilarious proxies
I tried off-racing as Protoss for the first time in months yesterday. Now I feel dirty.
On May 29 2015 05:12 Ctone23 wrote: I hated protoss for the longest time, so I tried to play with them and realized it does take some skill to pull off the bullshit. I'm happy to see a foreigner win every time
all I know is that 1 gas 8-gate doesn't :D
never said I was a scholar on the book of bullshit! haha
There is no better feeling than opening up the big book. When I'm angry at laddering as a Zerg player I unranked protoss and beat on people with hilarious proxies
Have you guys all forgotten about the golden rule? "One should treat others as one would like others to treat oneself"
TBH I don't get cheesed enough on ladder. I was thinking about this a few days ago. The only matchup I get cheesed is ZvZ and literally 99% of my games I get speedling all ined. I rarely get cheesed in any meaningful way so I never get to test my crisis management.
Also its my way of feeling better about dealing with mech
On May 29 2015 05:12 Ctone23 wrote: I hated protoss for the longest time, so I tried to play with them and realized it does take some skill to pull off the bullshit. I'm happy to see a foreigner win every time
all I know is that 1 gas 8-gate doesn't :D
never said I was a scholar on the book of bullshit! haha
There is no better feeling than opening up the big book. When I'm angry at laddering as a Zerg player I unranked protoss and beat on people with hilarious proxies
That sounds like a lot of fun actually..... Hmmm
Its only fun if you don't think about it. Because if you realize that you're beating players roughly at your level with an off race proxy its kind of angering.
Don't think, only proxy
I beat a Zerg objectively better than me going mass +3 stalkers. I didn't scout once, I lost my 3rd several times, I lost tons of probes to the mutas I didn't scout, but in the end none of that mattered because my army was unbeatable.
On May 29 2015 05:12 Ctone23 wrote: I hated protoss for the longest time, so I tried to play with them and realized it does take some skill to pull off the bullshit. I'm happy to see a foreigner win every time
all I know is that 1 gas 8-gate doesn't :D
never said I was a scholar on the book of bullshit! haha
There is no better feeling than opening up the big book. When I'm angry at laddering as a Zerg player I unranked protoss and beat on people with hilarious proxies
That sounds like a lot of fun actually..... Hmmm
On May 29 2015 05:18 Elentos wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:17 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:16 Ctone23 wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:13 Alchemik wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:12 Ctone23 wrote: I hated protoss for the longest time, so I tried to play with them and realized it does take some skill to pull off the bullshit. I'm happy to see a foreigner win every time
all I know is that 1 gas 8-gate doesn't :D
never said I was a scholar on the book of bullshit! haha
There is no better feeling than opening up the big book. When I'm angry at laddering as a Zerg player I unranked protoss and beat on people with hilarious proxies
I tried off-racing as Protoss for the first time in months yesterday. Now I feel dirty.
On May 29 2015 05:17 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:16 Ctone23 wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:13 Alchemik wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:12 Ctone23 wrote: I hated protoss for the longest time, so I tried to play with them and realized it does take some skill to pull off the bullshit. I'm happy to see a foreigner win every time
all I know is that 1 gas 8-gate doesn't :D
never said I was a scholar on the book of bullshit! haha
There is no better feeling than opening up the big book. When I'm angry at laddering as a Zerg player I unranked protoss and beat on people with hilarious proxies
Have you guys all forgotten about the golden rule? "One should treat others as one would like others to treat oneself"
TBH I don't get cheesed enough on ladder. I was thinking about this a few days ago. The only matchup I get cheesed is ZvZ and literally 99% of my games I get speedling all ined. I rarely get cheesed in any meaningful way so I never get to test my crisis management.
Also its my way of feeling better about dealing with mech
i get cheesed at least every second game vs protoss. i feel like there is this point between dia and master where everybody is cheesing. these super fast oracles that u die to unless u have the fastest ebay possible especially
On May 29 2015 05:12 Ctone23 wrote: I hated protoss for the longest time, so I tried to play with them and realized it does take some skill to pull off the bullshit. I'm happy to see a foreigner win every time
all I know is that 1 gas 8-gate doesn't :D
never said I was a scholar on the book of bullshit! haha
There is no better feeling than opening up the big book. When I'm angry at laddering as a Zerg player I unranked protoss and beat on people with hilarious proxies
That sounds like a lot of fun actually..... Hmmm
On May 29 2015 05:18 Elentos wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:17 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:16 Ctone23 wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:13 Alchemik wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:12 Ctone23 wrote: I hated protoss for the longest time, so I tried to play with them and realized it does take some skill to pull off the bullshit. I'm happy to see a foreigner win every time
all I know is that 1 gas 8-gate doesn't :D
never said I was a scholar on the book of bullshit! haha
There is no better feeling than opening up the big book. When I'm angry at laddering as a Zerg player I unranked protoss and beat on people with hilarious proxies
I tried off-racing as Protoss for the first time in months yesterday. Now I feel dirty.
On May 29 2015 05:17 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:16 Ctone23 wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:13 Alchemik wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:12 Ctone23 wrote: I hated protoss for the longest time, so I tried to play with them and realized it does take some skill to pull off the bullshit. I'm happy to see a foreigner win every time
all I know is that 1 gas 8-gate doesn't :D
never said I was a scholar on the book of bullshit! haha
There is no better feeling than opening up the big book. When I'm angry at laddering as a Zerg player I unranked protoss and beat on people with hilarious proxies
Have you guys all forgotten about the golden rule? "One should treat others as one would like others to treat oneself"
TBH I don't get cheesed enough on ladder. I was thinking about this a few days ago. The only matchup I get cheesed is ZvZ and literally 99% of my games I get speedling all ined. I rarely get cheesed in any meaningful way so I never get to test my crisis management.
Also its my way of feeling better about dealing with mech
Said no one ever. wtf is wrong with you, is this even real life right now?
Also, it must be because T and P dont need to all in zergs to win, amirite? AMIRITE OR WHAT?
On May 29 2015 05:12 Ctone23 wrote: I hated protoss for the longest time, so I tried to play with them and realized it does take some skill to pull off the bullshit. I'm happy to see a foreigner win every time
all I know is that 1 gas 8-gate doesn't :D
never said I was a scholar on the book of bullshit! haha
There is no better feeling than opening up the big book. When I'm angry at laddering as a Zerg player I unranked protoss and beat on people with hilarious proxies
That sounds like a lot of fun actually..... Hmmm
On May 29 2015 05:18 Elentos wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:17 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:16 Ctone23 wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:13 Alchemik wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:12 Ctone23 wrote: I hated protoss for the longest time, so I tried to play with them and realized it does take some skill to pull off the bullshit. I'm happy to see a foreigner win every time
all I know is that 1 gas 8-gate doesn't :D
never said I was a scholar on the book of bullshit! haha
There is no better feeling than opening up the big book. When I'm angry at laddering as a Zerg player I unranked protoss and beat on people with hilarious proxies
I tried off-racing as Protoss for the first time in months yesterday. Now I feel dirty.
On May 29 2015 05:17 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:16 Ctone23 wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:13 Alchemik wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:12 Ctone23 wrote: I hated protoss for the longest time, so I tried to play with them and realized it does take some skill to pull off the bullshit. I'm happy to see a foreigner win every time
all I know is that 1 gas 8-gate doesn't :D
never said I was a scholar on the book of bullshit! haha
There is no better feeling than opening up the big book. When I'm angry at laddering as a Zerg player I unranked protoss and beat on people with hilarious proxies
Have you guys all forgotten about the golden rule? "One should treat others as one would like others to treat oneself"
TBH I don't get cheesed enough on ladder. I was thinking about this a few days ago. The only matchup I get cheesed is ZvZ and literally 99% of my games I get speedling all ined. I rarely get cheesed in any meaningful way so I never get to test my crisis management.
Also its my way of feeling better about dealing with mech
On May 29 2015 05:12 Ctone23 wrote: I hated protoss for the longest time, so I tried to play with them and realized it does take some skill to pull off the bullshit. I'm happy to see a foreigner win every time
all I know is that 1 gas 8-gate doesn't :D
never said I was a scholar on the book of bullshit! haha
There is no better feeling than opening up the big book. When I'm angry at laddering as a Zerg player I unranked protoss and beat on people with hilarious proxies
That sounds like a lot of fun actually..... Hmmm
Its only fun if you don't think about it. Because if you realize that you're beating players roughly at your level with an off race proxy its kind of angering.
Don't think, only proxy
I beat a Zerg objectively better than me going mass +3 stalkers. I didn't scout once, I lost my 3rd several times, I lost tons of probes to the mutas I didn't scout, but in the end none of that mattered because my army was unbeatable.
On May 29 2015 05:12 Ctone23 wrote: I hated protoss for the longest time, so I tried to play with them and realized it does take some skill to pull off the bullshit. I'm happy to see a foreigner win every time
all I know is that 1 gas 8-gate doesn't :D
never said I was a scholar on the book of bullshit! haha
There is no better feeling than opening up the big book. When I'm angry at laddering as a Zerg player I unranked protoss and beat on people with hilarious proxies
On May 29 2015 05:12 Ctone23 wrote: I hated protoss for the longest time, so I tried to play with them and realized it does take some skill to pull off the bullshit. I'm happy to see a foreigner win every time
all I know is that 1 gas 8-gate doesn't :D
never said I was a scholar on the book of bullshit! haha
There is no better feeling than opening up the big book. When I'm angry at laddering as a Zerg player I unranked protoss and beat on people with hilarious proxies
I tried off-racing as Protoss for the first time in months yesterday. Now I feel dirty.
On May 29 2015 05:12 Ctone23 wrote: I hated protoss for the longest time, so I tried to play with them and realized it does take some skill to pull off the bullshit. I'm happy to see a foreigner win every time
all I know is that 1 gas 8-gate doesn't :D
never said I was a scholar on the book of bullshit! haha
There is no better feeling than opening up the big book. When I'm angry at laddering as a Zerg player I unranked protoss and beat on people with hilarious proxies
Have you guys all forgotten about the golden rule? "One should treat others as one would like others to treat oneself"
does archon mode circumvent the dirty proxy feels?
On May 29 2015 05:12 Ctone23 wrote: I hated protoss for the longest time, so I tried to play with them and realized it does take some skill to pull off the bullshit. I'm happy to see a foreigner win every time
all I know is that 1 gas 8-gate doesn't :D
never said I was a scholar on the book of bullshit! haha
There is no better feeling than opening up the big book. When I'm angry at laddering as a Zerg player I unranked protoss and beat on people with hilarious proxies
That sounds like a lot of fun actually..... Hmmm
On May 29 2015 05:18 Elentos wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:17 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:16 Ctone23 wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:13 Alchemik wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:12 Ctone23 wrote: I hated protoss for the longest time, so I tried to play with them and realized it does take some skill to pull off the bullshit. I'm happy to see a foreigner win every time
all I know is that 1 gas 8-gate doesn't :D
never said I was a scholar on the book of bullshit! haha
There is no better feeling than opening up the big book. When I'm angry at laddering as a Zerg player I unranked protoss and beat on people with hilarious proxies
I tried off-racing as Protoss for the first time in months yesterday. Now I feel dirty.
On May 29 2015 05:17 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:16 Ctone23 wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:13 Alchemik wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:12 Ctone23 wrote: I hated protoss for the longest time, so I tried to play with them and realized it does take some skill to pull off the bullshit. I'm happy to see a foreigner win every time
all I know is that 1 gas 8-gate doesn't :D
never said I was a scholar on the book of bullshit! haha
There is no better feeling than opening up the big book. When I'm angry at laddering as a Zerg player I unranked protoss and beat on people with hilarious proxies
Have you guys all forgotten about the golden rule? "One should treat others as one would like others to treat oneself"
TBH I don't get cheesed enough on ladder. I was thinking about this a few days ago. The only matchup I get cheesed is ZvZ and literally 99% of my games I get speedling all ined. I rarely get cheesed in any meaningful way so I never get to test my crisis management.
Also its my way of feeling better about dealing with mech
On May 29 2015 05:12 Ctone23 wrote: I hated protoss for the longest time, so I tried to play with them and realized it does take some skill to pull off the bullshit. I'm happy to see a foreigner win every time
all I know is that 1 gas 8-gate doesn't :D
never said I was a scholar on the book of bullshit! haha
There is no better feeling than opening up the big book. When I'm angry at laddering as a Zerg player I unranked protoss and beat on people with hilarious proxies
That sounds like a lot of fun actually..... Hmmm
Its only fun if you don't think about it. Because if you realize that you're beating players roughly at your level with an off race proxy its kind of angering.
Don't think, only proxy
I beat a Zerg objectively better than me going mass +3 stalkers. I didn't scout once, I lost my 3rd several times, I lost tons of probes to the mutas I didn't scout, but in the end none of that mattered because my army was unbeatable.
Its both a wonderful and maddening feeling
I 13pool on Expedition Lost because 3/4 games there are either proxy 2gate or cannon rush. Little do the Russian protosses know.
On May 29 2015 05:12 Ctone23 wrote: I hated protoss for the longest time, so I tried to play with them and realized it does take some skill to pull off the bullshit. I'm happy to see a foreigner win every time
all I know is that 1 gas 8-gate doesn't :D
never said I was a scholar on the book of bullshit! haha
There is no better feeling than opening up the big book. When I'm angry at laddering as a Zerg player I unranked protoss and beat on people with hilarious proxies
That sounds like a lot of fun actually..... Hmmm
On May 29 2015 05:18 Elentos wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:17 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:16 Ctone23 wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:13 Alchemik wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:12 Ctone23 wrote: I hated protoss for the longest time, so I tried to play with them and realized it does take some skill to pull off the bullshit. I'm happy to see a foreigner win every time
all I know is that 1 gas 8-gate doesn't :D
never said I was a scholar on the book of bullshit! haha
There is no better feeling than opening up the big book. When I'm angry at laddering as a Zerg player I unranked protoss and beat on people with hilarious proxies
I tried off-racing as Protoss for the first time in months yesterday. Now I feel dirty.
On May 29 2015 05:17 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:16 Ctone23 wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:13 Alchemik wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:12 Ctone23 wrote: I hated protoss for the longest time, so I tried to play with them and realized it does take some skill to pull off the bullshit. I'm happy to see a foreigner win every time
all I know is that 1 gas 8-gate doesn't :D
never said I was a scholar on the book of bullshit! haha
There is no better feeling than opening up the big book. When I'm angry at laddering as a Zerg player I unranked protoss and beat on people with hilarious proxies
Have you guys all forgotten about the golden rule? "One should treat others as one would like others to treat oneself"
TBH I don't get cheesed enough on ladder. I was thinking about this a few days ago. The only matchup I get cheesed is ZvZ and literally 99% of my games I get speedling all ined. I rarely get cheesed in any meaningful way so I never get to test my crisis management.
Also its my way of feeling better about dealing with mech
i get cheesed at least every second game vs protoss. i feel like there is this point between dia and master where everybody is cheesing. these super fast oracles that u die to unless u have the fastest ebay possible especially
Thats really weird, I'm at that same point (hovering around top 5 diamond) and I just rarely get cheesed. Every so often I get DTs that I stupidly didn't scout. Or once I lost to a mass oracle phoenix build because its the most counter-intuitive stargate strats ever
On May 29 2015 05:12 Ctone23 wrote: I hated protoss for the longest time, so I tried to play with them and realized it does take some skill to pull off the bullshit. I'm happy to see a foreigner win every time
all I know is that 1 gas 8-gate doesn't :D
never said I was a scholar on the book of bullshit! haha
There is no better feeling than opening up the big book. When I'm angry at laddering as a Zerg player I unranked protoss and beat on people with hilarious proxies
That sounds like a lot of fun actually..... Hmmm
On May 29 2015 05:18 Elentos wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:17 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:16 Ctone23 wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:13 Alchemik wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:12 Ctone23 wrote: I hated protoss for the longest time, so I tried to play with them and realized it does take some skill to pull off the bullshit. I'm happy to see a foreigner win every time
all I know is that 1 gas 8-gate doesn't :D
never said I was a scholar on the book of bullshit! haha
There is no better feeling than opening up the big book. When I'm angry at laddering as a Zerg player I unranked protoss and beat on people with hilarious proxies
I tried off-racing as Protoss for the first time in months yesterday. Now I feel dirty.
On May 29 2015 05:17 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:16 Ctone23 wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:13 Alchemik wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:12 Ctone23 wrote: I hated protoss for the longest time, so I tried to play with them and realized it does take some skill to pull off the bullshit. I'm happy to see a foreigner win every time
all I know is that 1 gas 8-gate doesn't :D
never said I was a scholar on the book of bullshit! haha
There is no better feeling than opening up the big book. When I'm angry at laddering as a Zerg player I unranked protoss and beat on people with hilarious proxies
Have you guys all forgotten about the golden rule? "One should treat others as one would like others to treat oneself"
TBH I don't get cheesed enough on ladder. I was thinking about this a few days ago. The only matchup I get cheesed is ZvZ and literally 99% of my games I get speedling all ined. I rarely get cheesed in any meaningful way so I never get to test my crisis management.
Also its my way of feeling better about dealing with mech
Said no one ever. wtf is wrong with you, is this even real life right now?
Also, it must be because T and P dont need to all in zergs to win, amirite? AMIRITE OR WHAT?
I got proxy 2 gated once and the guy was so bad it ended with me locking him in his base while I had all 3 golds on Vaani until I beat him to death with muta ling/roach
On May 29 2015 05:12 Ctone23 wrote: I hated protoss for the longest time, so I tried to play with them and realized it does take some skill to pull off the bullshit. I'm happy to see a foreigner win every time
all I know is that 1 gas 8-gate doesn't :D
never said I was a scholar on the book of bullshit! haha
There is no better feeling than opening up the big book. When I'm angry at laddering as a Zerg player I unranked protoss and beat on people with hilarious proxies
That sounds like a lot of fun actually..... Hmmm
On May 29 2015 05:18 Elentos wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:17 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:16 Ctone23 wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:13 Alchemik wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:12 Ctone23 wrote: I hated protoss for the longest time, so I tried to play with them and realized it does take some skill to pull off the bullshit. I'm happy to see a foreigner win every time
all I know is that 1 gas 8-gate doesn't :D
never said I was a scholar on the book of bullshit! haha
There is no better feeling than opening up the big book. When I'm angry at laddering as a Zerg player I unranked protoss and beat on people with hilarious proxies
I tried off-racing as Protoss for the first time in months yesterday. Now I feel dirty.
On May 29 2015 05:17 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:16 Ctone23 wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:13 Alchemik wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:12 Ctone23 wrote: I hated protoss for the longest time, so I tried to play with them and realized it does take some skill to pull off the bullshit. I'm happy to see a foreigner win every time
all I know is that 1 gas 8-gate doesn't :D
never said I was a scholar on the book of bullshit! haha
There is no better feeling than opening up the big book. When I'm angry at laddering as a Zerg player I unranked protoss and beat on people with hilarious proxies
Have you guys all forgotten about the golden rule? "One should treat others as one would like others to treat oneself"
TBH I don't get cheesed enough on ladder. I was thinking about this a few days ago. The only matchup I get cheesed is ZvZ and literally 99% of my games I get speedling all ined. I rarely get cheesed in any meaningful way so I never get to test my crisis management.
Also its my way of feeling better about dealing with mech
i get cheesed at least every second game vs protoss. i feel like there is this point between dia and master where everybody is cheesing. these super fast oracles that u die to unless u have the fastest ebay possible especially
Yeah thats the feeling you get when you reach diamond. and the feeling you get when you reach master. and the feeling you get when you reach high master lol
On May 29 2015 05:06 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: I know it's not right, but I simply do not enjoy watching Protoss win, period.
Did you enjoy herO beating Curious on Foxtrot Labs with one carrier?
Okay, fine, 1 in like 100 games Protoss can be fun, but most of the time it's just not cool.
but you feeling like this is also why it's impossible to take any of your "criticism" of Protoss play seriously. You'll always twist events and facts to suit your own worldview and it's pretty annoying and whiny.
I understand, though my criticisms of Protoss are why I don't enjoy it.
On May 29 2015 05:12 Ctone23 wrote: I hated protoss for the longest time, so I tried to play with them and realized it does take some skill to pull off the bullshit. I'm happy to see a foreigner win every time
all I know is that 1 gas 8-gate doesn't :D
never said I was a scholar on the book of bullshit! haha
There is no better feeling than opening up the big book. When I'm angry at laddering as a Zerg player I unranked protoss and beat on people with hilarious proxies
That sounds like a lot of fun actually..... Hmmm
On May 29 2015 05:18 Elentos wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:17 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:16 Ctone23 wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:13 Alchemik wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:12 Ctone23 wrote: I hated protoss for the longest time, so I tried to play with them and realized it does take some skill to pull off the bullshit. I'm happy to see a foreigner win every time
all I know is that 1 gas 8-gate doesn't :D
never said I was a scholar on the book of bullshit! haha
There is no better feeling than opening up the big book. When I'm angry at laddering as a Zerg player I unranked protoss and beat on people with hilarious proxies
I tried off-racing as Protoss for the first time in months yesterday. Now I feel dirty.
On May 29 2015 05:17 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:16 Ctone23 wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:13 Alchemik wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:12 Ctone23 wrote: I hated protoss for the longest time, so I tried to play with them and realized it does take some skill to pull off the bullshit. I'm happy to see a foreigner win every time
all I know is that 1 gas 8-gate doesn't :D
never said I was a scholar on the book of bullshit! haha
There is no better feeling than opening up the big book. When I'm angry at laddering as a Zerg player I unranked protoss and beat on people with hilarious proxies
Have you guys all forgotten about the golden rule? "One should treat others as one would like others to treat oneself"
TBH I don't get cheesed enough on ladder. I was thinking about this a few days ago. The only matchup I get cheesed is ZvZ and literally 99% of my games I get speedling all ined. I rarely get cheesed in any meaningful way so I never get to test my crisis management.
Also its my way of feeling better about dealing with mech
On May 29 2015 05:12 Ctone23 wrote: I hated protoss for the longest time, so I tried to play with them and realized it does take some skill to pull off the bullshit. I'm happy to see a foreigner win every time
all I know is that 1 gas 8-gate doesn't :D
never said I was a scholar on the book of bullshit! haha
There is no better feeling than opening up the big book. When I'm angry at laddering as a Zerg player I unranked protoss and beat on people with hilarious proxies
That sounds like a lot of fun actually..... Hmmm
Its only fun if you don't think about it. Because if you realize that you're beating players roughly at your level with an off race proxy its kind of angering.
Don't think, only proxy
I beat a Zerg objectively better than me going mass +3 stalkers. I didn't scout once, I lost my 3rd several times, I lost tons of probes to the mutas I didn't scout, but in the end none of that mattered because my army was unbeatable.
Its both a wonderful and maddening feeling
And then, since I was on another account and doing placement matches, I commited the worst offense. 1 base blink all-inned a bronze league Terran.
On May 29 2015 05:12 Ctone23 wrote: I hated protoss for the longest time, so I tried to play with them and realized it does take some skill to pull off the bullshit. I'm happy to see a foreigner win every time
all I know is that 1 gas 8-gate doesn't :D
never said I was a scholar on the book of bullshit! haha
There is no better feeling than opening up the big book. When I'm angry at laddering as a Zerg player I unranked protoss and beat on people with hilarious proxies
That sounds like a lot of fun actually..... Hmmm
On May 29 2015 05:18 Elentos wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:17 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:16 Ctone23 wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:13 Alchemik wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:12 Ctone23 wrote: I hated protoss for the longest time, so I tried to play with them and realized it does take some skill to pull off the bullshit. I'm happy to see a foreigner win every time
all I know is that 1 gas 8-gate doesn't :D
never said I was a scholar on the book of bullshit! haha
There is no better feeling than opening up the big book. When I'm angry at laddering as a Zerg player I unranked protoss and beat on people with hilarious proxies
I tried off-racing as Protoss for the first time in months yesterday. Now I feel dirty.
On May 29 2015 05:17 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:16 Ctone23 wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:13 Alchemik wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:12 Ctone23 wrote: I hated protoss for the longest time, so I tried to play with them and realized it does take some skill to pull off the bullshit. I'm happy to see a foreigner win every time
all I know is that 1 gas 8-gate doesn't :D
never said I was a scholar on the book of bullshit! haha
There is no better feeling than opening up the big book. When I'm angry at laddering as a Zerg player I unranked protoss and beat on people with hilarious proxies
Have you guys all forgotten about the golden rule? "One should treat others as one would like others to treat oneself"
TBH I don't get cheesed enough on ladder. I was thinking about this a few days ago. The only matchup I get cheesed is ZvZ and literally 99% of my games I get speedling all ined. I rarely get cheesed in any meaningful way so I never get to test my crisis management.
Also its my way of feeling better about dealing with mech
On May 29 2015 05:22 Elentos wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:19 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:18 Ctone23 wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:17 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:16 Ctone23 wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:13 Alchemik wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:12 Ctone23 wrote: I hated protoss for the longest time, so I tried to play with them and realized it does take some skill to pull off the bullshit. I'm happy to see a foreigner win every time
all I know is that 1 gas 8-gate doesn't :D
never said I was a scholar on the book of bullshit! haha
There is no better feeling than opening up the big book. When I'm angry at laddering as a Zerg player I unranked protoss and beat on people with hilarious proxies
That sounds like a lot of fun actually..... Hmmm
Its only fun if you don't think about it. Because if you realize that you're beating players roughly at your level with an off race proxy its kind of angering.
Don't think, only proxy
I beat a Zerg objectively better than me going mass +3 stalkers. I didn't scout once, I lost my 3rd several times, I lost tons of probes to the mutas I didn't scout, but in the end none of that mattered because my army was unbeatable.
Its both a wonderful and maddening feeling
And then, since I was on another account and doing placement matches, I commited the worst offense. 1 base blink all-inned a bronze league Terran.
My last placement match is always vs a protoss who 1 bases me to death.
ahahahaha I fucking love how we turned the LR thread into us telling horror(?) stories about times we decided to play protoss,or about how annoying protoss is
On May 29 2015 05:28 Aocowns wrote: ahahahaha I fucking love how we turned the LR thread into us telling horror(?) stories about times we decided to play protoss,or about how annoying protoss is
On May 29 2015 05:28 Aocowns wrote: ahahahaha I fucking love how we turned the LR thread into us telling horror(?) stories about times we decided to play protoss,or about how annoying protoss is
I blame the ridiculously long breaks between games. I mean LCS EU, which started at the same time, just ended.
On May 29 2015 05:12 Ctone23 wrote: I hated protoss for the longest time, so I tried to play with them and realized it does take some skill to pull off the bullshit. I'm happy to see a foreigner win every time
all I know is that 1 gas 8-gate doesn't :D
never said I was a scholar on the book of bullshit! haha
There is no better feeling than opening up the big book. When I'm angry at laddering as a Zerg player I unranked protoss and beat on people with hilarious proxies
That sounds like a lot of fun actually..... Hmmm
On May 29 2015 05:18 Elentos wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:17 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:16 Ctone23 wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:13 Alchemik wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:12 Ctone23 wrote: I hated protoss for the longest time, so I tried to play with them and realized it does take some skill to pull off the bullshit. I'm happy to see a foreigner win every time
all I know is that 1 gas 8-gate doesn't :D
never said I was a scholar on the book of bullshit! haha
There is no better feeling than opening up the big book. When I'm angry at laddering as a Zerg player I unranked protoss and beat on people with hilarious proxies
I tried off-racing as Protoss for the first time in months yesterday. Now I feel dirty.
On May 29 2015 05:17 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:16 Ctone23 wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:13 Alchemik wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:12 Ctone23 wrote: I hated protoss for the longest time, so I tried to play with them and realized it does take some skill to pull off the bullshit. I'm happy to see a foreigner win every time
all I know is that 1 gas 8-gate doesn't :D
never said I was a scholar on the book of bullshit! haha
There is no better feeling than opening up the big book. When I'm angry at laddering as a Zerg player I unranked protoss and beat on people with hilarious proxies
Have you guys all forgotten about the golden rule? "One should treat others as one would like others to treat oneself"
TBH I don't get cheesed enough on ladder. I was thinking about this a few days ago. The only matchup I get cheesed is ZvZ and literally 99% of my games I get speedling all ined. I rarely get cheesed in any meaningful way so I never get to test my crisis management.
Also its my way of feeling better about dealing with mech
On May 29 2015 05:22 Elentos wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:19 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:18 Ctone23 wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:17 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:16 Ctone23 wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:13 Alchemik wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:12 Ctone23 wrote: I hated protoss for the longest time, so I tried to play with them and realized it does take some skill to pull off the bullshit. I'm happy to see a foreigner win every time
all I know is that 1 gas 8-gate doesn't :D
never said I was a scholar on the book of bullshit! haha
There is no better feeling than opening up the big book. When I'm angry at laddering as a Zerg player I unranked protoss and beat on people with hilarious proxies
That sounds like a lot of fun actually..... Hmmm
Its only fun if you don't think about it. Because if you realize that you're beating players roughly at your level with an off race proxy its kind of angering.
Don't think, only proxy
I beat a Zerg objectively better than me going mass +3 stalkers. I didn't scout once, I lost my 3rd several times, I lost tons of probes to the mutas I didn't scout, but in the end none of that mattered because my army was unbeatable.
Its both a wonderful and maddening feeling
And then, since I was on another account and doing placement matches, I commited the worst offense. 1 base blink all-inned a bronze league Terran.
My last placement match is always vs a protoss who 1 bases me to death.
To be fair, it's not my fault a bronze league Terran decided to go quick 3 CC on Expedition Lost.
On May 29 2015 05:06 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: I know it's not right, but I simply do not enjoy watching Protoss win, period.
It's not your fault, never in the history of sc2 has anyone but protoss enjoyed watching protoss win. Protoss has been villainized since WoL beta 4 gate lol
You might be confusing this thread with the letting off steam thread. That would be understandable, considering you're in there bitching about the game all day and all night.
On May 29 2015 05:06 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: I know it's not right, but I simply do not enjoy watching Protoss win, period.
It's not your fault, never in the history of sc2 has anyone but protoss enjoyed watching protoss win. Protoss has been villainized since WoL beta 4 gate lol
You might be confusing this thread with the letting off steam thread. That would be understandable, considering you're in there bitching about the game all day and all night.
To be fair he's not wrong. Terran was already the bad ass one, the zerg was always the one to root for because it was the weakest (like Nestea/Fruitdealer) and protoss was widely considered the more evil/villain/cheesey ones
On May 29 2015 05:32 Elentos wrote: You could also try playing Terran every now and then if you're plat and count the games until you get thor dropped in TvT.
On May 29 2015 05:12 Ctone23 wrote: I hated protoss for the longest time, so I tried to play with them and realized it does take some skill to pull off the bullshit. I'm happy to see a foreigner win every time
all I know is that 1 gas 8-gate doesn't :D
never said I was a scholar on the book of bullshit! haha
There is no better feeling than opening up the big book. When I'm angry at laddering as a Zerg player I unranked protoss and beat on people with hilarious proxies
That sounds like a lot of fun actually..... Hmmm
On May 29 2015 05:18 Elentos wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:17 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:16 Ctone23 wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:13 Alchemik wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:12 Ctone23 wrote: I hated protoss for the longest time, so I tried to play with them and realized it does take some skill to pull off the bullshit. I'm happy to see a foreigner win every time
all I know is that 1 gas 8-gate doesn't :D
never said I was a scholar on the book of bullshit! haha
There is no better feeling than opening up the big book. When I'm angry at laddering as a Zerg player I unranked protoss and beat on people with hilarious proxies
I tried off-racing as Protoss for the first time in months yesterday. Now I feel dirty.
On May 29 2015 05:17 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:16 Ctone23 wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:13 Alchemik wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:12 Ctone23 wrote: I hated protoss for the longest time, so I tried to play with them and realized it does take some skill to pull off the bullshit. I'm happy to see a foreigner win every time
all I know is that 1 gas 8-gate doesn't :D
never said I was a scholar on the book of bullshit! haha
There is no better feeling than opening up the big book. When I'm angry at laddering as a Zerg player I unranked protoss and beat on people with hilarious proxies
Have you guys all forgotten about the golden rule? "One should treat others as one would like others to treat oneself"
TBH I don't get cheesed enough on ladder. I was thinking about this a few days ago. The only matchup I get cheesed is ZvZ and literally 99% of my games I get speedling all ined. I rarely get cheesed in any meaningful way so I never get to test my crisis management.
Also its my way of feeling better about dealing with mech
On May 29 2015 05:22 Elentos wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:19 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:18 Ctone23 wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:17 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:16 Ctone23 wrote:
On May 29 2015 05:13 Alchemik wrote: [quote] all I know is that 1 gas 8-gate doesn't :D
never said I was a scholar on the book of bullshit! haha
There is no better feeling than opening up the big book. When I'm angry at laddering as a Zerg player I unranked protoss and beat on people with hilarious proxies
That sounds like a lot of fun actually..... Hmmm
Its only fun if you don't think about it. Because if you realize that you're beating players roughly at your level with an off race proxy its kind of angering.
Don't think, only proxy
I beat a Zerg objectively better than me going mass +3 stalkers. I didn't scout once, I lost my 3rd several times, I lost tons of probes to the mutas I didn't scout, but in the end none of that mattered because my army was unbeatable.
Its both a wonderful and maddening feeling
And then, since I was on another account and doing placement matches, I commited the worst offense. 1 base blink all-inned a bronze league Terran.
My last placement match is always vs a protoss who 1 bases me to death.
To be fair, it's not my fault a bronze league Terran decided to go quick 3 CC on Expedition Lost.
yeah iirc the game I lost this past season I went for greedy play as well ^ not 3 cc though, more like 1 rax FE
On May 29 2015 05:06 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: I know it's not right, but I simply do not enjoy watching Protoss win, period.
It's not your fault, never in the history of sc2 has anyone but protoss enjoyed watching protoss win. Protoss has been villainized since WoL beta 4 gate lol
You might be confusing this thread with the letting off steam thread. That would be understandable, considering you're in there bitching about the game all day and all night.
Every thread is the letting off steam thread when a protoss plays
On May 29 2015 05:06 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: I know it's not right, but I simply do not enjoy watching Protoss win, period.
It's not your fault, never in the history of sc2 has anyone but protoss enjoyed watching protoss win. Protoss has been villainized since WoL beta 4 gate lol
You might be confusing this thread with the letting off steam thread. That would be understandable, considering you're in there bitching about the game all day and all night.
what happens in the blowing off steam thread after a ladder session stays in the blowing off steam thread
Regarding that statement, I did admit to slightly exaggerating the "no one but protoss likes watching protoss win" part. But im pretty sure no one can legitimately say protoss is not by far the most villainized race in sc2, and that parts of the community dislike protoss by default because of this
On May 29 2015 05:06 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: I know it's not right, but I simply do not enjoy watching Protoss win, period.
It's not your fault, never in the history of sc2 has anyone but protoss enjoyed watching protoss win. Protoss has been villainized since WoL beta 4 gate lol
You might be confusing this thread with the letting off steam thread. That would be understandable, considering you're in there bitching about the game all day and all night.
To be fair he's not wrong. Terran was already the bad ass one, the zerg was always the one to root for because it was the weakest (like Nestea/Fruitdealer) and protoss was widely considered the more evil/villain/cheesey ones
The fact that this community has problems with fairness doesn't exonerate him from being continually insufferable to read.
On May 29 2015 05:06 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: I know it's not right, but I simply do not enjoy watching Protoss win, period.
It's not your fault, never in the history of sc2 has anyone but protoss enjoyed watching protoss win. Protoss has been villainized since WoL beta 4 gate lol
You might be confusing this thread with the letting off steam thread. That would be understandable, considering you're in there bitching about the game all day and all night.
To be fair he's not wrong. Terran was already the bad ass one, the zerg was always the one to root for because it was the weakest (like Nestea/Fruitdealer) and protoss was widely considered the more evil/villain/cheesey ones
The fact that this community has problems with fairness doesn't exonerate him from being continually insufferable to read.
I simply consider myself sarcastic and delightful
That said, nothing I say about Forgg should be taken seriously, or even read if it doesnt make you smile
On May 29 2015 05:06 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: I know it's not right, but I simply do not enjoy watching Protoss win, period.
It's not your fault, never in the history of sc2 has anyone but protoss enjoyed watching protoss win. Protoss has been villainized since WoL beta 4 gate lol
You might be confusing this thread with the letting off steam thread. That would be understandable, considering you're in there bitching about the game all day and all night.
To be fair he's not wrong. Terran was already the bad ass one, the zerg was always the one to root for because it was the weakest (like Nestea/Fruitdealer) and protoss was widely considered the more evil/villain/cheesey ones
The fact that this community has problems with fairness doesn't exonerate him from being continually insufferable to read.
I simply consider myself sarcastic and delightful
Guess you should keep treating others the way you want them to treat you then.
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On May 29 2015 05:32 Elentos wrote: You could also try playing Terran every now and then if you're plat and count the games until you get thor dropped in TvT.
He beat ForGG with it in WCS 2013 Season 1 Ro8. He tried it again later in the series but it didn't work.
Kelazhur is playing way worse against hydra than snute. Almost feels like he is purposefully throwing. I don't think he lost 1 of his three reapers against snute, but loses one against hydra....hmmmm
On May 29 2015 05:40 ptbl wrote: Kelazhur is playing way worse against hydra than snute. Almost feels like he is purposefully throwing. I don't think he lost 1 of his three reapers against snute, but loses one against hydra....hmmmm
On May 29 2015 05:40 ptbl wrote: Kelazhur is playing way worse against hydra than snute. Almost feels like he is purposefully throwing. I don't think he lost 1 of his three reapers against snute, but loses one against hydra....hmmmm
You can't possibly be serious right?
He didn't transform his hellions into hellbats to kill hydra's third. He woulld have been massively ahead.
On May 29 2015 05:40 ptbl wrote: Kelazhur is playing way worse against hydra than snute. Almost feels like he is purposefully throwing. I don't think he lost 1 of his three reapers against snute, but loses one against hydra....hmmmm
You can't possibly be serious right?
He didn't transform his hellions into hellbats to kill hydra's third. He wouklld have been massively ahead.
I think you, and the casters, underestimate transform time. The roaches were right there, if he had taken the time to transform the roaches would have been right on top of the hellbats
On May 29 2015 05:06 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: I know it's not right, but I simply do not enjoy watching Protoss win, period.
It's not your fault, never in the history of sc2 has anyone but protoss enjoyed watching protoss win. Protoss has been villainized since WoL beta 4 gate lol
You might be confusing this thread with the letting off steam thread. That would be understandable, considering you're in there bitching about the game all day and all night.
To be fair he's not wrong. Terran was already the bad ass one, the zerg was always the one to root for because it was the weakest (like Nestea/Fruitdealer) and protoss was widely considered the more evil/villain/cheesey ones
The fact that this community has problems with fairness doesn't exonerate him from being continually insufferable to read.
I simply consider myself sarcastic and delightful
Guess you should keep treating others the way you want them to treat you then.
I've been a good boy for quite a while now, havent directly mouthed off at a fellow TLer in quite a while. Can you say the same?
On May 29 2015 05:46 DJHelium wrote: ToD and Kaelaris really is the best caster combination. They make the games exciting and have good small talk during downtime.
some of my fondest sc2 memories are the "tod learning english" segments of wcs eu
On May 29 2015 05:46 DJHelium wrote: ToD and Kaelaris really is the best caster combination. They make the games exciting and have good small talk during downtime.
Interesting..do you mean the best in that studio or just the best in the world?
On May 29 2015 05:44 Rain.100 wrote: seriously. whats up with 5 min breaks after every map? not even gsl is that bad
I think players can request up to 5 minutes between maps?
Even if that is true I highly doubt that every match, between EVERY map a player is asking for one. Maybe I'm not paying that close attention but it seems like every map has had a break between it
On May 29 2015 05:45 GumBa wrote: France is #1 SC2 country officialy now
Are your slump senses tingling Slump-Man?
Korea may very well slump as a nation. More evidence must be gathered. But France is easily number one nation, always has been in fact with such greats like Stephano, Adelscott and Diestar.
On May 29 2015 05:46 DJHelium wrote: ToD and Kaelaris really is the best caster combination. They make the games exciting and have good small talk during downtime.
Interesting..do you mean the best in that studio or just the best in the world?
It's my favourite in the world for sure. Some players do a fantastic job as well during HSC and stuff, but among our usual suspects I think there's no-one better!
On May 29 2015 05:45 GumBa wrote: France is #1 SC2 country officialy now
Are your slump senses tingling Slump-Man?
Korea may very well slump as a nation. More evidence must be gathered. But France is easily number one nation, always has been in fact with such greats like Stephano, Adelscott and Diestar.
For a long time, I thought Frederik Chopin was French and not Polish. It seems that Diestar is your Chopin.
Seriously, how can Kelazhur play so well against Snute and so badly against Hydra? It's not a difference in skill of the two zergs, the decision making is significantly worse.
On May 29 2015 05:45 GumBa wrote: France is #1 SC2 country officialy now
Are your slump senses tingling Slump-Man?
Korea may very well slump as a nation. More evidence must be gathered. But France is easily number one nation, always has been in fact with such greats like Stephano, Adelscott and Diestar.
For a long time, I thought Frederik Chopin was French and not Polish. It seems that Diestar is your Chopin.
it's ok the regime made you believe that, just like they told you ForGG was good
On May 29 2015 05:38 Alchemik wrote: didn't watch for a while, how did Kelazhur not win this game after reking Hydra's all-in so hard
1-1 speedroach isnt thaaaat all in, and it sets up pretty nicely for the roach/bane corruptor midgame, which is really strong in heads up engagements
he didn't really lose anything vs such a comitted attack (kay, not all-in then ) and then he just lost. so what happened?
1-1 speed roach is a godlike opening
Can confirm. It also has the funny tendency to make Terrans insult you.
You know, in all the games I've played, no matter what my opponents did... I've never once insulted them. Not once. Not even if they insulted me first. Just GG and leave if I lose or say nothing if I win. And then you have players that reply with "Fuck you" to "gl hf".
On May 29 2015 05:45 GumBa wrote: France is #1 SC2 country officialy now
Are your slump senses tingling Slump-Man?
Korea may very well slump as a nation. More evidence must be gathered. But France is easily number one nation, always has been in fact with such greats like Stephano, Adelscott and Diestar.
On May 29 2015 05:49 chipmonklord17 wrote: Also I use this build all the time, 9:30 minute 7 mutas. If they don't scout you basically destroy all of their mineral line. Its awesome.
:D
On May 29 2015 05:52 ptbl wrote: How do you not scout from kelazhur...you only see three queens at the front. Alarm bells should be ringing.
Part of the reason the build works is because it looks like roaches or a ling/bane bust. It doesn't give off the "I NEED TURRET" alarms
On May 29 2015 05:38 Alchemik wrote: didn't watch for a while, how did Kelazhur not win this game after reking Hydra's all-in so hard
1-1 speedroach isnt thaaaat all in, and it sets up pretty nicely for the roach/bane corruptor midgame, which is really strong in heads up engagements
he didn't really lose anything vs such a comitted attack (kay, not all-in then ) and then he just lost. so what happened?
1-1 speed roach is a godlike opening
Can confirm. It also has the funny tendency to make Terrans insult you.
You know, in all the games I've played, no matter what my opponents did... I've never once insulted them. Not once. Not even if they insulted me first. Just GG and leave if I lose or say nothing if I win. And then you have players that reply with "Fuck you" to "gl hf".
i just make fun of them "you fucking luck you wouldnt win if i hadnt missclicked and the game was still close you are so bad..." "and u still lost to me" "shut the fuck up you are so bad" "good enough to beat you )))"
On May 29 2015 05:45 GumBa wrote: France is #1 SC2 country officialy now
Are your slump senses tingling Slump-Man?
Korea may very well slump as a nation. More evidence must be gathered. But France is easily number one nation, always has been in fact with such greats like Stephano, Adelscott and Diestar.
For a long time, I thought Frederik Chopin was French and not Polish. It seems that Diestar is your Chopin.
it's ok the regime made you believe that, just like they told you ForGG was good
On May 29 2015 05:45 GumBa wrote: France is #1 SC2 country officialy now
Are your slump senses tingling Slump-Man?
Korea may very well slump as a nation. More evidence must be gathered. But France is easily number one nation, always has been in fact with such greats like Stephano, Adelscott and Diestar.
are you sure Diestar is French or am I missing a joke
oh wow i totally forgot there was sc2 outside of Korea this year. i'm not joking or trolling in any way, i legit feel like i'm in the twilight zone right now.
On May 29 2015 05:45 GumBa wrote: France is #1 SC2 country officialy now
Are your slump senses tingling Slump-Man?
Korea may very well slump as a nation. More evidence must be gathered. But France is easily number one nation, always has been in fact with such greats like Stephano, Adelscott and Diestar.
are you sure Diestar is French or am I missing a joke
it's a joke on how he got into 2013 nation wars bcuz French voted him over Tefel who was beating him 3-0 with roaches
On May 29 2015 05:54 ptbl wrote: During the sjute games, kelazhur was awesome at scouting. He used his reapers and scans, but sgainst hydra, he doesn't scout at all. It's weird.
foreigner starcraft betting scandal?
the meta is usually a few months late compared to korea so the timeline fits.
On May 29 2015 05:54 Schelim wrote: oh wow i totally forgot there was sc2 outside of Korea this year. i'm not joking or trolling in any way, i legit feel like i'm in the twilight zone right now.
is WCS a good watch in 2015?
some games are mediocre, some are cringeworthy. Source is free.
On May 29 2015 05:45 GumBa wrote: France is #1 SC2 country officialy now
Are your slump senses tingling Slump-Man?
Korea may very well slump as a nation. More evidence must be gathered. But France is easily number one nation, always has been in fact with such greats like Stephano, Adelscott and Diestar.
are you sure Diestar is French or am I missing a joke
We French have no problems adopting Polish people as French as long as they bring good vodka with them
On May 29 2015 05:54 Schelim wrote: oh wow i totally forgot there was sc2 outside of Korea this year. i'm not joking or trolling in any way, i legit feel like i'm in the twilight zone right now.
On May 29 2015 05:54 Schelim wrote: oh wow i totally forgot there was sc2 outside of Korea this year. i'm not joking or trolling in any way, i legit feel like i'm in the twilight zone right now.
is WCS a good watch in 2015?
If you like watching foreigners derp and having a giggle in the LR threads, it can get pretty glorious. My favourite so far is every time Patreputinus plays someone
On May 29 2015 05:54 ptbl wrote: During the sjute games, kelazhur was awesome at scouting. He used his reapers and scans, but sgainst hydra, he doesn't scout at all. It's weird.
On May 29 2015 05:54 ptbl wrote: During the sjute games, kelazhur was awesome at scouting. He used his reapers and scans, but sgainst hydra, he doesn't scout at all. It's weird.
It's honestly really really suspicious. You're play level just doesn't drop this much between 2 series agains the same race.
On May 29 2015 05:54 Schelim wrote: oh wow i totally forgot there was sc2 outside of Korea this year. i'm not joking or trolling in any way, i legit feel like i'm in the twilight zone right now.
is WCS a good watch in 2015?
If you like watching foreigners derp and having a giggle in the LR threads, it can get pretty glorious. My favourite so far is every time Patreputinus plays someone
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On May 29 2015 05:54 Schelim wrote: oh wow i totally forgot there was sc2 outside of Korea this year. i'm not joking or trolling in any way, i legit feel like i'm in the twilight zone right now.
is WCS a good watch in 2015?
If you like watching foreigners derp and having a giggle in the LR threads, it can get pretty glorious. My favourite so far is every time Patreputinus plays someone
On May 29 2015 05:54 Schelim wrote: oh wow i totally forgot there was sc2 outside of Korea this year. i'm not joking or trolling in any way, i legit feel like i'm in the twilight zone right now.
is WCS a good watch in 2015?
If you like watching foreigners derp and having a giggle in the LR threads, it can get pretty glorious. My favourite so far is every time Patreputinus plays someone
Patreputinus? WTF?
he means Paddleplooton, the Zerg player from New Zealand.
So, am I the only one suspicious of Kelazhur's play? The mistakes he is making was nonexistent against snute. But once he plays against hydra, he's another person.
On May 29 2015 05:54 ptbl wrote: During the sjute games, kelazhur was awesome at scouting. He used his reapers and scans, but sgainst hydra, he doesn't scout at all. It's weird.
It's honestly really really suspicious. You're play level just doesn't drop this much between 2 series agains the same race.
Well he did said he slept bad and was really tired, and just had a powernap before the match vs Snute. He's probably just tired again
On May 29 2015 05:54 Schelim wrote: oh wow i totally forgot there was sc2 outside of Korea this year. i'm not joking or trolling in any way, i legit feel like i'm in the twilight zone right now.
is WCS a good watch in 2015?
If you like watching foreigners derp and having a giggle in the LR threads, it can get pretty glorious. My favourite so far is every time Patreputinus plays someone
Patreputinus? WTF?
he means Paddleplooton, the Zerg player from New Zealand.
lol okay so this whole thing is like a parody of pro level sc2. got it, thanks guys.
On May 29 2015 05:54 ptbl wrote: During the sjute games, kelazhur was awesome at scouting. He used his reapers and scans, but sgainst hydra, he doesn't scout at all. It's weird.
It's honestly really really suspicious. You're play level just doesn't drop this much between 2 series agains the same race.
True, we"ve never seen players crumble under pressure because playing against a Korean. Never ever.
On May 29 2015 05:54 Schelim wrote: oh wow i totally forgot there was sc2 outside of Korea this year. i'm not joking or trolling in any way, i legit feel like i'm in the twilight zone right now.
is WCS a good watch in 2015?
If you like watching foreigners derp and having a giggle in the LR threads, it can get pretty glorious. My favourite so far is every time Patreputinus plays someone
Patreputinus? WTF?
he means Paddleplooton, the Zerg player from New Zealand.
On May 29 2015 05:54 Schelim wrote: oh wow i totally forgot there was sc2 outside of Korea this year. i'm not joking or trolling in any way, i legit feel like i'm in the twilight zone right now.
is WCS a good watch in 2015?
If you like watching foreigners derp and having a giggle in the LR threads, it can get pretty glorious. My favourite so far is every time Patreputinus plays someone
Patreputinus? WTF?
he means Paddleplooton, the Zerg player from New Zealand.
On May 29 2015 05:45 GumBa wrote: France is #1 SC2 country officialy now
Are your slump senses tingling Slump-Man?
Korea may very well slump as a nation. More evidence must be gathered. But France is easily number one nation, always has been in fact with such greats like Stephano, Adelscott and Diestar.
are you sure Diestar is French or am I missing a joke
it's a joke on how he got into 2013 nation wars bcuz French voted him over Tefel who was beating him 3-0 with roaches
Tefel beats everyone with roaches though, does it really count
also I loved the first Nation Wars, the first tournament I watched :D
On May 29 2015 05:57 ptbl wrote: So, am I the only one suspicious of Kelazhur's play? The mistakes he is making was nonexistent against snute. But once he plays against hydra, he's another person.
Something was up, perhaps it's just nerves but he completely was a different player, that was not on Hydra it was Kelazhur just suddenly playing like a diamond leaguer.
On May 29 2015 05:54 Schelim wrote: oh wow i totally forgot there was sc2 outside of Korea this year. i'm not joking or trolling in any way, i legit feel like i'm in the twilight zone right now.
is WCS a good watch in 2015?
If you like watching foreigners derp and having a giggle in the LR threads, it can get pretty glorious. My favourite so far is every time Patreputinus plays someone
Patreputinus? WTF?
he means Paddleplooton, the Zerg player from New Zealand.
On May 29 2015 05:45 GumBa wrote: France is #1 SC2 country officialy now
Are your slump senses tingling Slump-Man?
Korea may very well slump as a nation. More evidence must be gathered. But France is easily number one nation, always has been in fact with such greats like Stephano, Adelscott and Diestar.
are you sure Diestar is French or am I missing a joke
it's a joke on how he got into 2013 nation wars bcuz French voted him over Tefel who was beating him 3-0 with roaches
Tefel beats everyone with roaches though, does it really count
it does if you call it a stupid strategy that shouldn't work and call your opponent bad and then lose 3 games in a row to a 2 base speed roach bust
On May 29 2015 05:45 GumBa wrote: France is #1 SC2 country officialy now
Are your slump senses tingling Slump-Man?
Korea may very well slump as a nation. More evidence must be gathered. But France is easily number one nation, always has been in fact with such greats like Stephano, Adelscott and Diestar.
are you sure Diestar is French or am I missing a joke
it's a joke on how he got into 2013 nation wars bcuz French voted him over Tefel who was beating him 3-0 with roaches
Tefel beats everyone with roaches though, does it really count
it does if you call it a stupid strategy that shouldn't work and call your opponent bad and then lose 3 games in a row to a 2 base speed roach bust
On May 29 2015 05:54 Schelim wrote: oh wow i totally forgot there was sc2 outside of Korea this year. i'm not joking or trolling in any way, i legit feel like i'm in the twilight zone right now.
is WCS a good watch in 2015?
If you like watching foreigners derp and having a giggle in the LR threads, it can get pretty glorious. My favourite so far is every time Patreputinus plays someone
Patreputinus? WTF?
he means Paddleplooton, the Zerg player from New Zealand.
lol okay so this whole thing is like a parody of pro level sc2. got it, thanks guys.
hey at least we're not as much of a joke as hearthstone
seriously though, moments like when Ret suddenly is decent again and wins is pretty cool, it has its moments. If you're a purist for skill stay the fuck away before you gouge your eyes out though
On May 29 2015 05:45 GumBa wrote: France is #1 SC2 country officialy now
Are your slump senses tingling Slump-Man?
Korea may very well slump as a nation. More evidence must be gathered. But France is easily number one nation, always has been in fact with such greats like Stephano, Adelscott and Diestar.
are you sure Diestar is French or am I missing a joke
it's a joke on how he got into 2013 nation wars bcuz French voted him over Tefel who was beating him 3-0 with roaches
Tefel beats everyone with roaches though, does it really count
it does if you call it a stupid strategy that shouldn't work and call your opponent bad and then lose 3 games in a row to a 2 base speed roach bust
ah right, outplayed and outsmarted
the best part is he called it bad when dying in game 2 or 3 (can't remember)
On May 29 2015 05:45 GumBa wrote: France is #1 SC2 country officialy now
Are your slump senses tingling Slump-Man?
Korea may very well slump as a nation. More evidence must be gathered. But France is easily number one nation, always has been in fact with such greats like Stephano, Adelscott and Diestar.
are you sure Diestar is French or am I missing a joke
it's a joke on how he got into 2013 nation wars bcuz French voted him over Tefel who was beating him 3-0 with roaches
Tefel beats everyone with roaches though, does it really count
it does if you call it a stupid strategy that shouldn't work and call your opponent bad and then lose 3 games in a row to a 2 base speed roach bust
ah right, outplayed and outsmarted
the best part is he called it bad when dying in game 2 or 3 (can't remember)
didn't he then proceed to get rekt during Nation Wars
On May 29 2015 05:45 GumBa wrote: France is #1 SC2 country officialy now
Are your slump senses tingling Slump-Man?
Korea may very well slump as a nation. More evidence must be gathered. But France is easily number one nation, always has been in fact with such greats like Stephano, Adelscott and Diestar.
are you sure Diestar is French or am I missing a joke
it's a joke on how he got into 2013 nation wars bcuz French voted him over Tefel who was beating him 3-0 with roaches
Tefel beats everyone with roaches though, does it really count
it does if you call it a stupid strategy that shouldn't work and call your opponent bad and then lose 3 games in a row to a 2 base speed roach bust
ah right, outplayed and outsmarted
the best part is he called it bad when dying in game 2 or 3 (can't remember)
didn't he then proceed to get rekt during Nation Wars
On May 29 2015 06:16 IntoTheheart wrote: How did KvH go?
K seemed to lose some of his sharpness after his match with S, while H was playing fine, leading to two straight macro victories. It never really seemed like H was in major trouble in either game.
In the first game, H went for a Roach 1/1 timing that killed some SCV's and did some damage, giving H a slight advantage. From there, H went for a Roach/Zergling/Baneling composition while taking a quick fourth base. K tried to break him at several points, sometimes going for multi-pronged attacks through drops before anti-air was out, and was somewhat successful in disrupting mining, but H always had enough everywhere to defend before he lost anything critical. After H added corruptors, going for a Dark-style, K started to lose steam fast and lost many medivacs. H seized his opportunity and went for the kill after maxing out on Roach/Zergling/Baneling.
In the second game, K seemed to get off a decent start by getting 3 OC's quickly himself and delaying the third base for H for a while due to massing Hellions, but it was all for naught when H surprised him with 8 muta's in his base. They killed 18 SCV's in their initial run, and kept on threatening every part of K's base. Due to his build he barely had any marines or missile turrets out, so H was able to find huge damage with his slowly-expanding muta flock. From there, H quickly started upgrades and massing zergling/baneling to deal with any attacks that K tried, and easily crushed them due to a far superior economy. K was slightly ahead in upgrades, but after the Muta's killed the engineering bays and H's own 2/2 finished, all hope was lost. H made a huge army including about 50 banelings, and crashed into barely ~60 army supply to completely decimate both the army and all the workers for the final GG of the night.
On May 29 2015 06:16 IntoTheheart wrote: How did KvH go?
K seemed to lose some of his sharpness after his match with S, while H was playing fine, leading to two straight macro victories. It never really seemed like H was in major trouble in either game.
In the first game, H went for a Roach 1/1 timing that killed some SCV's and did some damage, giving H a slight advantage. From there, H went for a Roach/Zergling/Baneling composition while taking a quick fourth base. K tried to break him at several points, sometimes going for multi-pronged attacks through drops before anti-air was out, and was somewhat successful in disrupting mining, but H always had enough everywhere to defend before he lost anything critical. After H added corruptors, going for a Dark-style, K started to lose steam fast and lost many medivacs. H seized his opportunity and went for the kill after maxing out on Roach/Zergling/Baneling.
In the second game, K seemed to get off a decent start by getting 3 OC's quickly himself and delaying the third base for H for a while due to massing Hellions, but it was all for naught when H surprised him with 8 muta's in his base. They killed 18 SCV's in their initial run, and kept on threatening every part of K's base. Due to his build he barely had any marines or missile turrets out, so H was able to find huge damage with his slowly-expanding muta flock. From there, H quickly started upgrades and massing zergling/baneling to deal with any attacks that K tried, and easily crushed them due to a far superior economy. K was slightly ahead in upgrades, but after the Muta's killed the engineering bays and H's own 2/2 finished, all hope was lost. H made a huge army including about 50 banelings, and crashed into barely ~60 army supply to completely decimate both the army and all the workers for the final GG of the night.
EPT
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