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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
May 28 2015 19:12 GMT
#481
On May 29 2015 04:11 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2015 04:09 IntoTheheart wrote:
On May 29 2015 04:08 stuchiu wrote:
On May 29 2015 04:06 Nebuchad wrote:
On May 29 2015 04:03 ptbl wrote:
So, maybe snute is truly the patch zerg? He hasn't been the same after the swarmhost changes.


Still waiting for that famous player who isn't influenced by how his race does in the meta.


Nestea
Mvp
MC
Polt
Maru
Taeja
soO
Parting

I'm amazed that I forgot about Polt.

How could you? Polt was an actual hero of Terran during the blink era :S

And probably my favourite player.
I cheered for him during Blizzcon, but didn't expect him to win, based off his form for 2014.
kiss kiss fall in love
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
May 28 2015 19:12 GMT
#482
On May 29 2015 04:11 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2015 04:09 IntoTheheart wrote:
On May 29 2015 04:08 stuchiu wrote:
On May 29 2015 04:06 Nebuchad wrote:
On May 29 2015 04:03 ptbl wrote:
So, maybe snute is truly the patch zerg? He hasn't been the same after the swarmhost changes.


Still waiting for that famous player who isn't influenced by how his race does in the meta.


Nestea
Mvp
MC
Polt
Maru
Taeja
soO
Parting

I'm amazed that I forgot about Polt.

How could you? Polt was an actual hero of Terran during the blink era :S

Polt, Maru, TY never forget.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
May 28 2015 19:13 GMT
#483
On May 29 2015 04:11 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2015 04:09 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On May 29 2015 04:06 Heartland wrote:
On May 29 2015 04:05 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On May 29 2015 04:02 ossavi09 wrote:
I hoped for a foreigner @ blizzcon, and I expected Showtime, Snute and Bunny to have a serious chance to go there /= now there's only bunny left...


That's why I really hate this new format. Because theres only one really good opportunity for foreigners to get points any single loss is crippling. Compared to the 6 korean leagues


They will just get smashed in the first round anyway


That's also a product of if a nonKorean gets in its just barely meaning they play the first or second seeds. But the bottom half of the seeds are doable opponents for any foreigner good enough to get there in the first place.

Currently the back half of players are
Hydra, Rain, Stats, Dark, Fantasy, Rouge, Soulkey, Innovation, Gumiho.

A few of those guys stick out as far better than their points indicate but Fanta/SK/Gumiho/Hydra are far from unbeatable as a foreigner


Right now the gap between foreigners and koreans seem wider than ever.


I'd say at the top of the top it definitely is but as it pretty much always has been the "lower tier" Koreans still pretty close.
SharkStarcraft
Profile Joined April 2011
Austria2236 Posts
May 28 2015 19:13 GMT
#484
On May 29 2015 04:11 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
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On May 29 2015 04:09 Aocowns wrote:
On May 29 2015 04:07 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Wait what the fuck Snute out in last place?

He had one of those days where he looked garbage. he hasnt been sounding confident at all on his recent streams either

Garbage is a bit harsh man, he nearly beat Hydra in the first match


did you see the games vs kelthuzad though
that was pretty depressing
i think we can at least safely say that bunny is the best foreigner now
Cogito, ergo Toss
Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-28 19:15:51
May 28 2015 19:13 GMT
#485
On May 29 2015 04:11 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2015 04:09 Aocowns wrote:
On May 29 2015 04:07 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Wait what the fuck Snute out in last place?

He had one of those days where he looked garbage. he hasnt been sounding confident at all on his recent streams either

Garbage is a bit harsh man, he nearly beat Hydra in the first match

The first one was basically a BO win cus he did a roach timing that hydra was a bit greedy against. Not too much skill involved there. Then he proceeded to do the exact same build for the next 2 games, except it didnt work cus hydra wasnt greedy. After every time they went into a stable midgame, snute got completely outplayed in terms of tech decisions and even army control/position. Not to mention 2k minerals 0 gas in the last game. On a decent day he would EASILY predict his lack of gas, and at least make more spines since his entire plan was to not move out until he had T3 upgrades and roach hydra infestor anyway
I'm a salt-lord and hater of mech and ForGG, don't take me seriously, it's just my salt-humour speaking i swear. |KadaverBB best TL gaoler| |~IdrA's #1 fan~| SetGuitarsToKill and Duckk are my martyr heroes |
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
May 28 2015 19:13 GMT
#486
On May 29 2015 04:11 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2015 04:09 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On May 29 2015 04:06 Heartland wrote:
On May 29 2015 04:05 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On May 29 2015 04:02 ossavi09 wrote:
I hoped for a foreigner @ blizzcon, and I expected Showtime, Snute and Bunny to have a serious chance to go there /= now there's only bunny left...


That's why I really hate this new format. Because theres only one really good opportunity for foreigners to get points any single loss is crippling. Compared to the 6 korean leagues


They will just get smashed in the first round anyway


That's also a product of if a nonKorean gets in its just barely meaning they play the first or second seeds. But the bottom half of the seeds are doable opponents for any foreigner good enough to get there in the first place.

Currently the back half of players are
Hydra, Rain, Stats, Dark, Fantasy, Rouge, Soulkey, Innovation, Gumiho.

A few of those guys stick out as far better than their points indicate but Fanta/SK/Gumiho/Hydra are far from unbeatable as a foreigner


Right now the gap between foreigners and koreans seem wider than ever.


Last year the Koreans that went to WCS EU played on ladder. This year there are no Koreans in EU, and no one in NA plays on NA ladder (including the Koreans and foreigners - so long as they live on East/West).
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
May 28 2015 19:14 GMT
#487
On May 29 2015 04:13 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2015 04:11 Heartland wrote:
On May 29 2015 04:09 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On May 29 2015 04:06 Heartland wrote:
On May 29 2015 04:05 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On May 29 2015 04:02 ossavi09 wrote:
I hoped for a foreigner @ blizzcon, and I expected Showtime, Snute and Bunny to have a serious chance to go there /= now there's only bunny left...


That's why I really hate this new format. Because theres only one really good opportunity for foreigners to get points any single loss is crippling. Compared to the 6 korean leagues


They will just get smashed in the first round anyway


That's also a product of if a nonKorean gets in its just barely meaning they play the first or second seeds. But the bottom half of the seeds are doable opponents for any foreigner good enough to get there in the first place.

Currently the back half of players are
Hydra, Rain, Stats, Dark, Fantasy, Rouge, Soulkey, Innovation, Gumiho.

A few of those guys stick out as far better than their points indicate but Fanta/SK/Gumiho/Hydra are far from unbeatable as a foreigner


Right now the gap between foreigners and koreans seem wider than ever.


Last year the Koreans that went to WCS EU played on ladder. This year there are no Koreans in EU, and no one in NA plays on NA ladder (including the Koreans and foreigners - so long as they live on East/West).

So where does Polt practice?
kiss kiss fall in love
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24589 Posts
May 28 2015 19:15 GMT
#488
On May 29 2015 04:13 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2015 04:11 Heartland wrote:
On May 29 2015 04:09 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On May 29 2015 04:06 Heartland wrote:
On May 29 2015 04:05 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On May 29 2015 04:02 ossavi09 wrote:
I hoped for a foreigner @ blizzcon, and I expected Showtime, Snute and Bunny to have a serious chance to go there /= now there's only bunny left...


That's why I really hate this new format. Because theres only one really good opportunity for foreigners to get points any single loss is crippling. Compared to the 6 korean leagues


They will just get smashed in the first round anyway


That's also a product of if a nonKorean gets in its just barely meaning they play the first or second seeds. But the bottom half of the seeds are doable opponents for any foreigner good enough to get there in the first place.

Currently the back half of players are
Hydra, Rain, Stats, Dark, Fantasy, Rouge, Soulkey, Innovation, Gumiho.

A few of those guys stick out as far better than their points indicate but Fanta/SK/Gumiho/Hydra are far from unbeatable as a foreigner


Right now the gap between foreigners and koreans seem wider than ever.


Last year the Koreans that went to WCS EU played on ladder. This year there are no Koreans in EU, and no one in NA plays on NA ladder (including the Koreans and foreigners - so long as they live on East/West).


Exactly. And there was Scarlett, Snute and Naniwa who at different periods were capable of playing with the best.
Serimek
Profile Joined August 2011
France2274 Posts
May 28 2015 19:15 GMT
#489
On May 29 2015 04:11 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2015 04:09 Rain.100 wrote:
On May 29 2015 04:08 stuchiu wrote:
On May 29 2015 04:06 Nebuchad wrote:
On May 29 2015 04:03 ptbl wrote:
So, maybe snute is truly the patch zerg? He hasn't been the same after the swarmhost changes.


Still waiting for that famous player who isn't influenced by how his race does in the meta.


Nestea
Mvp
MC
Polt
Maru
Taeja
soO
Parting

FRUIT
FUCKING
DEALER


wasn't sure if that counted since there wasnt a meta to speak of.


Oh God those FruitDealer games gave me chill back then.
SC2 is the best game to watch and was the best to play before I grew old and slow...
SharkStarcraft
Profile Joined April 2011
Austria2236 Posts
May 28 2015 19:15 GMT
#490
on another note what about nathanias? i dont see him much at wcs these days
have i tuned in during the wrong days or did they drop him?
Cogito, ergo Toss
SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
May 28 2015 19:15 GMT
#491
Bit silly to have two Protoss players comment (of whom especially ToD gets pretty biased quite often) whilst there is such an excellent Zerg player and commentator PRESENT....
Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
May 28 2015 19:16 GMT
#492
On May 29 2015 04:15 SharkStarcraft wrote:
on another note what about nathanias? i dont see him much at wcs these days
have i tuned in during the wrong days or did they drop him?


He was there for the NA broadcasts wasn't he?
Wat
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
May 28 2015 19:16 GMT
#493
On May 29 2015 04:15 SharkStarcraft wrote:
on another note what about nathanias? i dont see him much at wcs these days
have i tuned in during the wrong days or did they drop him?


He casted every day and every match of the NA groups didn't he?
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
May 28 2015 19:16 GMT
#494
On May 29 2015 04:15 SharkStarcraft wrote:
on another note what about nathanias? i dont see him much at wcs these days
have i tuned in during the wrong days or did they drop him?

He literally casted all groups A to D in the US
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Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
May 28 2015 19:16 GMT
#495
On May 29 2015 04:15 SharkStarcraft wrote:
on another note what about nathanias? i dont see him much at wcs these days
have i tuned in during the wrong days or did they drop him?

this is EU, he's NA based
I'm a salt-lord and hater of mech and ForGG, don't take me seriously, it's just my salt-humour speaking i swear. |KadaverBB best TL gaoler| |~IdrA's #1 fan~| SetGuitarsToKill and Duckk are my martyr heroes |
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
May 28 2015 19:16 GMT
#496
On May 29 2015 04:15 SharkStarcraft wrote:
on another note what about nathanias? i dont see him much at wcs these days
have i tuned in during the wrong days or did they drop him?

? He casted all groups they had in NA?
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
May 28 2015 19:16 GMT
#497
On May 29 2015 04:08 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2015 04:05 Larkin wrote:
On May 29 2015 04:04 Rain.100 wrote:
On May 29 2015 04:02 Weavel wrote:
On May 29 2015 04:02 Larkin wrote:
can people stop saying Snute is the best foreigner now because he clearly isn't anymore now SHs have been nerfed
So much this. Even though I'm not sure who is the best foreigner atm.

bunny is so far ahead of any other


yeah probably Bunny, though Harstem seems equally capable of deep runs in tournaments against Koreans


What? When did Harstem have any deep run against koreans? His best result was ro8 last DH where he lost to both Gumiho and HyuN, winning vs foreigners.


Tournaments with Koreans in* :p
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
May 28 2015 19:16 GMT
#498
Bunny EARNED it a long time ago.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Rain.100
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany946 Posts
May 28 2015 19:17 GMT
#499
On May 29 2015 04:15 SharkStarcraft wrote:
on another note what about nathanias? i dont see him much at wcs these days
have i tuned in during the wrong days or did they drop him?

he commentated all the 4 groups before since those were taking place in america together with huk, gretorp and kane. now the last 4 groups are played in cologne and rotti is casting the eu groups since he has problems with his visa i tink.
I have to return some videotapes. Maru and MarineLorD <3
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
May 28 2015 19:17 GMT
#500
We need Haypro to come back and save the foreigner scene once again
Wat
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