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On May 24 2015 09:30 Luolis wrote:
please guys tell me, how the hell can marinelord play in that position O_o
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On May 24 2015 09:35 Alucen-Will- wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2015 09:34 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On May 24 2015 09:33 Alucen-Will- wrote:
Life actually tried a similar strategy against Maru in Proleague a few weeks ago and had a similar result.
I don't think there is a way of breaking turtle mech after a certain point. I would love to see a genius Zerg player find the answer, though. lets all channel for Soulkey's comeback. I think Soulkey's ironwall is one of the few hopes. SK just needs to care enough and he could be a star. I hope a KeSPA team saves him
He left SKT because he felt burned out. I don't think he'll go back for at least this year.
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On May 24 2015 09:36 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2015 09:35 GumBa wrote:On May 24 2015 09:34 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On May 24 2015 09:33 Alucen-Will- wrote:
Life actually tried a similar strategy against Maru in Proleague a few weeks ago and had a similar result.
I don't think there is a way of breaking turtle mech after a certain point. I would love to see a genius Zerg player find the answer, though. lets all channel for Soulkey's comeback. I believe soO and Dark will find a way. My bet is on hyvaa. Zergs will be dumbfounded and he will show up and say, "Just all-in them first"
What about Leenock? He might have the answer:D
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Not the biggest fan of that hype/recap video. Would have liked to see maybe half of the moments they chose but a little longer because it felt too "jumpy". But really cool winning reaction shots from Ret/MLord
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On May 24 2015 09:36 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2015 09:35 GumBa wrote:On May 24 2015 09:34 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On May 24 2015 09:33 Alucen-Will- wrote:
Life actually tried a similar strategy against Maru in Proleague a few weeks ago and had a similar result.
I don't think there is a way of breaking turtle mech after a certain point. I would love to see a genius Zerg player find the answer, though. lets all channel for Soulkey's comeback. I believe soO and Dark will find a way. My bet is on hyvaa. Zergs will be dumbfounded and he will show up and say, "Just all-in them first"
Innovation vs hyvaa in Code A was way more disappointing then I had hoped
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On May 24 2015 09:37 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2015 09:36 stuchiu wrote:On May 24 2015 09:35 GumBa wrote:On May 24 2015 09:34 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On May 24 2015 09:33 Alucen-Will- wrote:
Life actually tried a similar strategy against Maru in Proleague a few weeks ago and had a similar result.
I don't think there is a way of breaking turtle mech after a certain point. I would love to see a genius Zerg player find the answer, though. lets all channel for Soulkey's comeback. I believe soO and Dark will find a way. My bet is on hyvaa. Zergs will be dumbfounded and he will show up and say, "Just all-in them first" Innovation vs hyvaa in Code A was way more disappointing then I had hoped
Their GSTL game was amazing though.
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On May 24 2015 09:37 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2015 09:35 Alucen-Will- wrote:On May 24 2015 09:34 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On May 24 2015 09:33 Alucen-Will- wrote:
Life actually tried a similar strategy against Maru in Proleague a few weeks ago and had a similar result.
I don't think there is a way of breaking turtle mech after a certain point. I would love to see a genius Zerg player find the answer, though. lets all channel for Soulkey's comeback. I think Soulkey's ironwall is one of the few hopes. SK just needs to care enough and he could be a star. I hope a KeSPA team saves him He left SKT because he felt burned out. I don't think he'll go back for at least this year.
I think he needs it though. His flip flop in play and the axiom incident. He seems to lack strong focus etc
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On May 24 2015 09:37 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2015 09:35 Alucen-Will- wrote:On May 24 2015 09:34 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On May 24 2015 09:33 Alucen-Will- wrote:
Life actually tried a similar strategy against Maru in Proleague a few weeks ago and had a similar result.
I don't think there is a way of breaking turtle mech after a certain point. I would love to see a genius Zerg player find the answer, though. lets all channel for Soulkey's comeback. I think Soulkey's ironwall is one of the few hopes. SK just needs to care enough and he could be a star. I hope a KeSPA team saves him He left SKT because he felt burned out. I don't think he'll go back for at least this year.
Yeah and he was pretty bad on SKT so you could tell he needed that break.
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On May 24 2015 09:38 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2015 09:37 stuchiu wrote:On May 24 2015 09:35 Alucen-Will- wrote:On May 24 2015 09:34 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On May 24 2015 09:33 Alucen-Will- wrote:
Life actually tried a similar strategy against Maru in Proleague a few weeks ago and had a similar result.
I don't think there is a way of breaking turtle mech after a certain point. I would love to see a genius Zerg player find the answer, though. lets all channel for Soulkey's comeback. I think Soulkey's ironwall is one of the few hopes. SK just needs to care enough and he could be a star. I hope a KeSPA team saves him He left SKT because he felt burned out. I don't think he'll go back for at least this year. I think he needs it though. His flip flop in play and the axiom incident. He seems to lack strong focus etc
He should compromise and go ask Coach Choya for a spot in MVP
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On May 24 2015 09:37 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2015 09:35 Boucot wrote:
Next year we'll send MarineLorD to Eurovision. I hope he'll show good songs. How about a duo with MLord for singing and Stephano for dancing? Victory assured
Also ForGG is kinda french and can do that.
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On May 24 2015 09:37 Luolis wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2015 09:30 Luolis wrote:
please guys tell me, how the hell can marinelord play in that position O_o
Do you have a picture? I wasn't watching.
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On May 24 2015 09:38 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2015 09:37 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On May 24 2015 09:36 stuchiu wrote:On May 24 2015 09:35 GumBa wrote:On May 24 2015 09:34 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On May 24 2015 09:33 Alucen-Will- wrote:
Life actually tried a similar strategy against Maru in Proleague a few weeks ago and had a similar result.
I don't think there is a way of breaking turtle mech after a certain point. I would love to see a genius Zerg player find the answer, though. lets all channel for Soulkey's comeback. I believe soO and Dark will find a way. My bet is on hyvaa. Zergs will be dumbfounded and he will show up and say, "Just all-in them first" Innovation vs hyvaa in Code A was way more disappointing then I had hoped Their GSTL game was amazing though.
Hyvaa's performance before that was great and then he went and pushed Inno to his limits. Great GSTL series.
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On May 24 2015 09:38 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2015 09:37 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On May 24 2015 09:36 stuchiu wrote:On May 24 2015 09:35 GumBa wrote:On May 24 2015 09:34 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On May 24 2015 09:33 Alucen-Will- wrote:
Life actually tried a similar strategy against Maru in Proleague a few weeks ago and had a similar result.
I don't think there is a way of breaking turtle mech after a certain point. I would love to see a genius Zerg player find the answer, though. lets all channel for Soulkey's comeback. I believe soO and Dark will find a way. My bet is on hyvaa. Zergs will be dumbfounded and he will show up and say, "Just all-in them first" Innovation vs hyvaa in Code A was way more disappointing then I had hoped Their GSTL game was amazing though.
I hadn't seen much from that season, link?
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On May 24 2015 09:36 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2015 09:35 sAsImre wrote:On May 24 2015 09:33 Alucen-Will- wrote:
Life actually tried a similar strategy against Maru in Proleague a few weeks ago and had a similar result.
I don't think there is a way of breaking turtle mech after a certain point. I would love to see a genius Zerg player find the answer, though. Ultra/Queen/Infest is ok (Dark/Fanta, Morrow/Petraeus) Vipers too. But that isn't really breaking turtle mech, and is rather facing it lategame, which isn't what viOlet was going for anyhow.
you don't break him, you just deny the 5th/6th bases where he doesn't have a bajillion turrets and 2 pfs. on the other hand if your eco gets denied you're screwed because your composition is so expansive.
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On May 24 2015 09:37 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2015 09:35 Alucen-Will- wrote:On May 24 2015 09:34 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On May 24 2015 09:33 Alucen-Will- wrote:
Life actually tried a similar strategy against Maru in Proleague a few weeks ago and had a similar result.
I don't think there is a way of breaking turtle mech after a certain point. I would love to see a genius Zerg player find the answer, though. lets all channel for Soulkey's comeback. I think Soulkey's ironwall is one of the few hopes. SK just needs to care enough and he could be a star. I hope a KeSPA team saves him He left SKT because he felt burned out. I don't think he'll go back for at least this year.
I was watching OGN's starhangshow where the famous Hanbit/Woongjin stars coach Lee Jae Kyun talked about soulkey (i'll find the vod later if I can)
He said that soulkey has a hard time focusing and really knuckling down. But if he could, he is one of the most mechanically strong zerg's out there.
I believe it, too.
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On May 24 2015 09:38 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2015 09:37 stuchiu wrote:On May 24 2015 09:35 Alucen-Will- wrote:On May 24 2015 09:34 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On May 24 2015 09:33 Alucen-Will- wrote:
Life actually tried a similar strategy against Maru in Proleague a few weeks ago and had a similar result.
I don't think there is a way of breaking turtle mech after a certain point. I would love to see a genius Zerg player find the answer, though. lets all channel for Soulkey's comeback. I think Soulkey's ironwall is one of the few hopes. SK just needs to care enough and he could be a star. I hope a KeSPA team saves him He left SKT because he felt burned out. I don't think he'll go back for at least this year. Yeah and he was pretty bad on SKT so you could tell he needed that break.
People overstate how bad he was. Sure he was nowhere near WJS Sk level but a decent PL record staying in GSL and a WCG win(?) is still pretty solid. He just looked bad compared to what we were used to from him.
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On May 24 2015 09:38 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2015 09:37 Luolis wrote:On May 24 2015 09:30 Luolis wrote:
please guys tell me, how the hell can marinelord play in that position O_o Do you have a picture? I wasn't watching.
I dont have a picture :/ Basically he had his mouse sideways in front of his keyboard.
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On May 24 2015 09:40 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2015 09:38 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On May 24 2015 09:37 stuchiu wrote:On May 24 2015 09:35 Alucen-Will- wrote:On May 24 2015 09:34 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On May 24 2015 09:33 Alucen-Will- wrote:
Life actually tried a similar strategy against Maru in Proleague a few weeks ago and had a similar result.
I don't think there is a way of breaking turtle mech after a certain point. I would love to see a genius Zerg player find the answer, though. lets all channel for Soulkey's comeback. I think Soulkey's ironwall is one of the few hopes. SK just needs to care enough and he could be a star. I hope a KeSPA team saves him He left SKT because he felt burned out. I don't think he'll go back for at least this year. Yeah and he was pretty bad on SKT so you could tell he needed that break. People overstate how bad he was. Sure he was nowhere near WJS Sk level but a decent PL record staying in GSL and a WCG win(?) is still pretty solid. He just looked bad compared to what we were used to from him.
yeah that's just it, i wanted him to stay near the top echelon.
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On May 24 2015 09:40 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2015 09:38 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On May 24 2015 09:37 stuchiu wrote:On May 24 2015 09:35 Alucen-Will- wrote:On May 24 2015 09:34 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On May 24 2015 09:33 Alucen-Will- wrote:
Life actually tried a similar strategy against Maru in Proleague a few weeks ago and had a similar result.
I don't think there is a way of breaking turtle mech after a certain point. I would love to see a genius Zerg player find the answer, though. lets all channel for Soulkey's comeback. I think Soulkey's ironwall is one of the few hopes. SK just needs to care enough and he could be a star. I hope a KeSPA team saves him He left SKT because he felt burned out. I don't think he'll go back for at least this year. Yeah and he was pretty bad on SKT so you could tell he needed that break. People overstate how bad he was. Sure he was nowhere near WJS Sk level but a decent PL record staying in GSL and a WCG win(?) is still pretty solid. He just looked bad compared to what we were used to from him.
Kind of makes me wonder if being a GSL champion went to his head or something. If he had trouble practicing before winning I imagine after being a champion it would be easy to lose what little motivation you had
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On May 24 2015 09:39 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2015 09:36 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On May 24 2015 09:35 sAsImre wrote:On May 24 2015 09:33 Alucen-Will- wrote:
Life actually tried a similar strategy against Maru in Proleague a few weeks ago and had a similar result.
I don't think there is a way of breaking turtle mech after a certain point. I would love to see a genius Zerg player find the answer, though. Ultra/Queen/Infest is ok (Dark/Fanta, Morrow/Petraeus) Vipers too. But that isn't really breaking turtle mech, and is rather facing it lategame, which isn't what viOlet was going for anyhow. you don't break him, you just deny the 5th/6th bases where he doesn't have a bajillion turrets and 2 pfs. on the other hand if your eco gets denied you're screwed because your composition is so expansive.
Oh yeah I agree. Feels similar to Protoss vs swarmhost actually.
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