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On May 21 2015 22:28 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2015 22:26 IntoTheheart wrote:On May 21 2015 22:26 sAsImre wrote:On May 21 2015 22:25 IntoTheheart wrote:On May 21 2015 22:24 sAsImre wrote:On May 21 2015 22:23 Elentos wrote:On May 21 2015 22:21 The_Templar wrote:On May 21 2015 22:20 Elentos wrote:
Why are we even discussing TvT?! You can't talk about Bomber without discussing TvT. Bomber doesn't play TvT. He plays BvT. And i'm almost serious he just does his thing that is very very different from everybody else. Congrats on 7k! LR spam OP. Just noticed you had this wonderful team flair in those dark times  I feel like we were more relevant back then. =/ And that's saying a lot. we just need a reliable ace/star player :'(
Ah well, what can ya do. Hopefully Dear becomes a force to be reckoned with at some point.
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On May 21 2015 22:27 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2015 22:26 GumBa wrote:On May 21 2015 22:25 gTank wrote:On May 21 2015 22:08 GumBa wrote:On May 21 2015 22:06 Elentos wrote:On May 21 2015 22:05 c0ldfusion wrote:On May 21 2015 22:03 Elentos wrote:On May 21 2015 22:01 Tyrhanius wrote:
This last game make me sick, Life plays so well, but dream just win thx to lucky WM hit, 3/3 and the ability to make PF and repair expansion...He loses every engagement, all his dropship dies, loses thousands SCV, no problem you can't take my expansion/mules, i infinitly reprod and rally units... Go Terran and try doing what Dream did. I bet you couldn't. I hate this line of argument. So you can't criticize anything that you can't do yourself? Are you saying you have to be a professional athlete to express your opinions when watching sports? Or do you have do be a movie director to express an opinion about a movie? It's really dumb dude. He's whining about balance when there's about 3 Terrans in the world who could have won that game. Maru, Dream and ??? Innovation ofc! Rofl :D His TvZ was pretty good earlier this year. But he doesn't seem to win games like that game 5. Not enough clutchness.
He was good at all mu at the start but since iem vs Zest he has went full shit play
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On May 21 2015 22:28 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2015 22:26 IntoTheheart wrote:On May 21 2015 22:26 sAsImre wrote:On May 21 2015 22:25 IntoTheheart wrote:On May 21 2015 22:24 sAsImre wrote:On May 21 2015 22:23 Elentos wrote:On May 21 2015 22:21 The_Templar wrote:On May 21 2015 22:20 Elentos wrote:
Why are we even discussing TvT?! You can't talk about Bomber without discussing TvT. Bomber doesn't play TvT. He plays BvT. And i'm almost serious he just does his thing that is very very different from everybody else. Congrats on 7k! LR spam OP. Just noticed you had this wonderful team flair in those dark times I feel like we were more relevant back then. =/ And that's saying a lot. we just need a reliable ace/star player :'( which means Guilty for president.
Guilty should be fielded more often. Although maybe he shouldn't because that would just cause a bigger team to take him away from Samsung.
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On May 21 2015 22:29 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2015 22:27 Elentos wrote:On May 21 2015 22:26 GumBa wrote:On May 21 2015 22:25 gTank wrote:On May 21 2015 22:08 GumBa wrote:On May 21 2015 22:06 Elentos wrote:On May 21 2015 22:05 c0ldfusion wrote:On May 21 2015 22:03 Elentos wrote:On May 21 2015 22:01 Tyrhanius wrote:
This last game make me sick, Life plays so well, but dream just win thx to lucky WM hit, 3/3 and the ability to make PF and repair expansion...He loses every engagement, all his dropship dies, loses thousands SCV, no problem you can't take my expansion/mules, i infinitly reprod and rally units... Go Terran and try doing what Dream did. I bet you couldn't. I hate this line of argument. So you can't criticize anything that you can't do yourself? Are you saying you have to be a professional athlete to express your opinions when watching sports? Or do you have do be a movie director to express an opinion about a movie? It's really dumb dude. He's whining about balance when there's about 3 Terrans in the world who could have won that game. Maru, Dream and ??? Innovation ofc! Rofl :D His TvZ was pretty good earlier this year. But he doesn't seem to win games like that game 5. Not enough clutchness. He was good at all mu at the start but since iem vs Zest he has went full shit play
Does losing one IEM in TvP seriously cost one's TvZ abilities?
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On May 21 2015 22:30 IntoTheheart wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2015 22:29 GumBa wrote:On May 21 2015 22:27 Elentos wrote:On May 21 2015 22:26 GumBa wrote:On May 21 2015 22:25 gTank wrote:On May 21 2015 22:08 GumBa wrote:On May 21 2015 22:06 Elentos wrote:On May 21 2015 22:05 c0ldfusion wrote:On May 21 2015 22:03 Elentos wrote:On May 21 2015 22:01 Tyrhanius wrote:
This last game make me sick, Life plays so well, but dream just win thx to lucky WM hit, 3/3 and the ability to make PF and repair expansion...He loses every engagement, all his dropship dies, loses thousands SCV, no problem you can't take my expansion/mules, i infinitly reprod and rally units... Go Terran and try doing what Dream did. I bet you couldn't. I hate this line of argument. So you can't criticize anything that you can't do yourself? Are you saying you have to be a professional athlete to express your opinions when watching sports? Or do you have do be a movie director to express an opinion about a movie? It's really dumb dude. He's whining about balance when there's about 3 Terrans in the world who could have won that game. Maru, Dream and ??? Innovation ofc! Rofl :D His TvZ was pretty good earlier this year. But he doesn't seem to win games like that game 5. Not enough clutchness. He was good at all mu at the start but since iem vs Zest he has went full shit play Does losing one IEM in TvP seriously cost one's TvZ abilities?
Well that series cost everyone watching a lot of brain power I reckon.
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On May 21 2015 22:30 IntoTheheart wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2015 22:29 GumBa wrote:On May 21 2015 22:27 Elentos wrote:On May 21 2015 22:26 GumBa wrote:On May 21 2015 22:25 gTank wrote:On May 21 2015 22:08 GumBa wrote:On May 21 2015 22:06 Elentos wrote:On May 21 2015 22:05 c0ldfusion wrote:On May 21 2015 22:03 Elentos wrote:On May 21 2015 22:01 Tyrhanius wrote:
This last game make me sick, Life plays so well, but dream just win thx to lucky WM hit, 3/3 and the ability to make PF and repair expansion...He loses every engagement, all his dropship dies, loses thousands SCV, no problem you can't take my expansion/mules, i infinitly reprod and rally units... Go Terran and try doing what Dream did. I bet you couldn't. I hate this line of argument. So you can't criticize anything that you can't do yourself? Are you saying you have to be a professional athlete to express your opinions when watching sports? Or do you have do be a movie director to express an opinion about a movie? It's really dumb dude. He's whining about balance when there's about 3 Terrans in the world who could have won that game. Maru, Dream and ??? Innovation ofc! Rofl :D His TvZ was pretty good earlier this year. But he doesn't seem to win games like that game 5. Not enough clutchness. He was good at all mu at the start but since iem vs Zest he has went full shit play Does losing one IEM in TvP seriously cost one's TvZ abilities?
It cost something cause has dropped the ball in all mu since that series
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On May 21 2015 22:30 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2015 22:30 IntoTheheart wrote:On May 21 2015 22:29 GumBa wrote:On May 21 2015 22:27 Elentos wrote:On May 21 2015 22:26 GumBa wrote:On May 21 2015 22:25 gTank wrote:On May 21 2015 22:08 GumBa wrote:On May 21 2015 22:06 Elentos wrote:On May 21 2015 22:05 c0ldfusion wrote:On May 21 2015 22:03 Elentos wrote:
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Go Terran and try doing what Dream did. I bet you couldn't. I hate this line of argument. So you can't criticize anything that you can't do yourself? Are you saying you have to be a professional athlete to express your opinions when watching sports? Or do you have do be a movie director to express an opinion about a movie? It's really dumb dude. He's whining about balance when there's about 3 Terrans in the world who could have won that game. Maru, Dream and ??? Innovation ofc! Rofl :D His TvZ was pretty good earlier this year. But he doesn't seem to win games like that game 5. Not enough clutchness. He was good at all mu at the start but since iem vs Zest he has went full shit play Does losing one IEM in TvP seriously cost one's TvZ abilities? Well that series cost everyone watching a lot of brain power I reckon.
What's the tl;dr? I haven't been able to watch much StarCraft in the past 8 months.
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On May 21 2015 22:06 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2015 22:05 c0ldfusion wrote:On May 21 2015 22:03 Elentos wrote:On May 21 2015 22:01 Tyrhanius wrote:
This last game make me sick, Life plays so well, but dream just win thx to lucky WM hit, 3/3 and the ability to make PF and repair expansion...He loses every engagement, all his dropship dies, loses thousands SCV, no problem you can't take my expansion/mules, i infinitly reprod and rally units... Go Terran and try doing what Dream did. I bet you couldn't. I hate this line of argument. So you can't criticize anything that you can't do yourself? Are you saying you have to be a professional athlete to express your opinions when watching sports? Or do you have do be a movie director to express an opinion about a movie? It's really dumb dude. He's whining about balance when there's about 3 Terrans in the world who could have won that game.
And how many zergs would have won it? that line of argument goes both ways
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On May 21 2015 22:30 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2015 22:30 IntoTheheart wrote:On May 21 2015 22:29 GumBa wrote:On May 21 2015 22:27 Elentos wrote:On May 21 2015 22:26 GumBa wrote:On May 21 2015 22:25 gTank wrote:On May 21 2015 22:08 GumBa wrote:On May 21 2015 22:06 Elentos wrote:On May 21 2015 22:05 c0ldfusion wrote:On May 21 2015 22:03 Elentos wrote:
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Go Terran and try doing what Dream did. I bet you couldn't. I hate this line of argument. So you can't criticize anything that you can't do yourself? Are you saying you have to be a professional athlete to express your opinions when watching sports? Or do you have do be a movie director to express an opinion about a movie? It's really dumb dude. He's whining about balance when there's about 3 Terrans in the world who could have won that game. Maru, Dream and ??? Innovation ofc! Rofl :D His TvZ was pretty good earlier this year. But he doesn't seem to win games like that game 5. Not enough clutchness. He was good at all mu at the start but since iem vs Zest he has went full shit play Does losing one IEM in TvP seriously cost one's TvZ abilities? Well that series cost everyone watching a lot of brain power I reckon.
in B4 INno wins GSL
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On May 21 2015 22:31 Vedeynevin wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2015 22:06 Elentos wrote:On May 21 2015 22:05 c0ldfusion wrote:On May 21 2015 22:03 Elentos wrote:On May 21 2015 22:01 Tyrhanius wrote:
This last game make me sick, Life plays so well, but dream just win thx to lucky WM hit, 3/3 and the ability to make PF and repair expansion...He loses every engagement, all his dropship dies, loses thousands SCV, no problem you can't take my expansion/mules, i infinitly reprod and rally units... Go Terran and try doing what Dream did. I bet you couldn't. I hate this line of argument. So you can't criticize anything that you can't do yourself? Are you saying you have to be a professional athlete to express your opinions when watching sports? Or do you have do be a movie director to express an opinion about a movie? It's really dumb dude. He's whining about balance when there's about 3 Terrans in the world who could have won that game. And how many zergs would have won it? that line of argument goes both ways
Quite a few
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On May 21 2015 22:29 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2015 22:28 sAsImre wrote:On May 21 2015 22:26 IntoTheheart wrote:On May 21 2015 22:26 sAsImre wrote:On May 21 2015 22:25 IntoTheheart wrote:On May 21 2015 22:24 sAsImre wrote:On May 21 2015 22:23 Elentos wrote:On May 21 2015 22:21 The_Templar wrote:On May 21 2015 22:20 Elentos wrote:
Why are we even discussing TvT?! You can't talk about Bomber without discussing TvT. Bomber doesn't play TvT. He plays BvT. And i'm almost serious he just does his thing that is very very different from everybody else. Congrats on 7k! LR spam OP. Just noticed you had this wonderful team flair in those dark times I feel like we were more relevant back then. =/ And that's saying a lot. we just need a reliable ace/star player :'( which means Guilty for president. Guilty should be fielded more often. Although maybe he shouldn't because that would just cause a bigger team to take him away from Samsung.
My understanding is that KHAN iswas one of the better-funded teams. Explains why we didn't lose Stork or JangBi back when they were doing well.
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On May 21 2015 22:31 Gwavajuice wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2015 22:30 Elentos wrote:On May 21 2015 22:30 IntoTheheart wrote:On May 21 2015 22:29 GumBa wrote:On May 21 2015 22:27 Elentos wrote:On May 21 2015 22:26 GumBa wrote:On May 21 2015 22:25 gTank wrote:On May 21 2015 22:08 GumBa wrote:On May 21 2015 22:06 Elentos wrote:On May 21 2015 22:05 c0ldfusion wrote:
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I hate this line of argument. So you can't criticize anything that you can't do yourself? Are you saying you have to be a professional athlete to express your opinions when watching sports? Or do you have do be a movie director to express an opinion about a movie? It's really dumb dude. He's whining about balance when there's about 3 Terrans in the world who could have won that game. Maru, Dream and ??? Innovation ofc! Rofl :D His TvZ was pretty good earlier this year. But he doesn't seem to win games like that game 5. Not enough clutchness. He was good at all mu at the start but since iem vs Zest he has went full shit play Does losing one IEM in TvP seriously cost one's TvZ abilities? Well that series cost everyone watching a lot of brain power I reckon. in B4 INno wins GSL
If that happens with his play lol xD
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On May 21 2015 22:32 IntoTheheart wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2015 22:29 Elentos wrote:On May 21 2015 22:28 sAsImre wrote:On May 21 2015 22:26 IntoTheheart wrote:On May 21 2015 22:26 sAsImre wrote:On May 21 2015 22:25 IntoTheheart wrote:On May 21 2015 22:24 sAsImre wrote:On May 21 2015 22:23 Elentos wrote:On May 21 2015 22:21 The_Templar wrote:On May 21 2015 22:20 Elentos wrote:
Why are we even discussing TvT?! You can't talk about Bomber without discussing TvT. Bomber doesn't play TvT. He plays BvT. And i'm almost serious he just does his thing that is very very different from everybody else. Congrats on 7k! LR spam OP. Just noticed you had this wonderful team flair in those dark times I feel like we were more relevant back then. =/ And that's saying a lot. we just need a reliable ace/star player :'( which means Guilty for president. Guilty should be fielded more often. Although maybe he shouldn't because that would just cause a bigger team to take him away from Samsung. My understanding is that KHAN iswas one of the better-funded teams. Explains why we didn't lose Stork or JangBi back when they were doing well.
Considering they are run by Samsung.. I'd say thats a safe consideration
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On May 21 2015 22:31 Vedeynevin wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2015 22:06 Elentos wrote:On May 21 2015 22:05 c0ldfusion wrote:On May 21 2015 22:03 Elentos wrote:On May 21 2015 22:01 Tyrhanius wrote:
This last game make me sick, Life plays so well, but dream just win thx to lucky WM hit, 3/3 and the ability to make PF and repair expansion...He loses every engagement, all his dropship dies, loses thousands SCV, no problem you can't take my expansion/mules, i infinitly reprod and rally units... Go Terran and try doing what Dream did. I bet you couldn't. I hate this line of argument. So you can't criticize anything that you can't do yourself? Are you saying you have to be a professional athlete to express your opinions when watching sports? Or do you have do be a movie director to express an opinion about a movie? It's really dumb dude. He's whining about balance when there's about 3 Terrans in the world who could have won that game. And how many zergs would have won it? that line of argument goes both ways
it's pointless to throw names, we just have to realize that Life's ZvT is not the best, usually his flaws are hidden by his perfect engagement and mechanics, but at the end of the day, there always that tier 3 missing. But if you really want a name, I much prefer ByuL's style.
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On May 21 2015 22:31 IntoTheheart wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2015 22:30 Elentos wrote:On May 21 2015 22:30 IntoTheheart wrote:On May 21 2015 22:29 GumBa wrote:On May 21 2015 22:27 Elentos wrote:On May 21 2015 22:26 GumBa wrote:On May 21 2015 22:25 gTank wrote:On May 21 2015 22:08 GumBa wrote:On May 21 2015 22:06 Elentos wrote:On May 21 2015 22:05 c0ldfusion wrote:
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I hate this line of argument. So you can't criticize anything that you can't do yourself? Are you saying you have to be a professional athlete to express your opinions when watching sports? Or do you have do be a movie director to express an opinion about a movie? It's really dumb dude. He's whining about balance when there's about 3 Terrans in the world who could have won that game. Maru, Dream and ??? Innovation ofc! Rofl :D His TvZ was pretty good earlier this year. But he doesn't seem to win games like that game 5. Not enough clutchness. He was good at all mu at the start but since iem vs Zest he has went full shit play Does losing one IEM in TvP seriously cost one's TvZ abilities? Well that series cost everyone watching a lot of brain power I reckon. What's the tl;dr? I haven't been able to watch much StarCraft in the past 8 months.
One game in particular involved Zest building an oracle, sending it to INno's base where it flew into a missile turret, while running away from the turret it ran into INno's marines that killed it and suddenly Zest's only stalker move commanded to its death in INnoVation's main, causing Zest to GG after about 7 minutes. I was dumbfounded o.O
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On May 21 2015 22:29 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2015 22:28 sAsImre wrote:On May 21 2015 22:26 IntoTheheart wrote:On May 21 2015 22:26 sAsImre wrote:On May 21 2015 22:25 IntoTheheart wrote:On May 21 2015 22:24 sAsImre wrote:On May 21 2015 22:23 Elentos wrote:On May 21 2015 22:21 The_Templar wrote:On May 21 2015 22:20 Elentos wrote:
Why are we even discussing TvT?! You can't talk about Bomber without discussing TvT. Bomber doesn't play TvT. He plays BvT. And i'm almost serious he just does his thing that is very very different from everybody else. Congrats on 7k! LR spam OP. Just noticed you had this wonderful team flair in those dark times I feel like we were more relevant back then. =/ And that's saying a lot. we just need a reliable ace/star player :'( which means Guilty for president. Guilty should be fielded more often. Although maybe he shouldn't because that would just cause a bigger team to take him away from Samsung.
He really can't get fielded too often because Reality/Bravo should play a lot since both of them are realiable players. Then you get 1 spot for Dear which leaves only one spot, and I doubt you'd want a 3rd T. Honnestly it should be hurricane and this line up might clinch a play off spot with a bit of luck.
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On May 21 2015 22:34 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2015 22:29 Elentos wrote:On May 21 2015 22:28 sAsImre wrote:On May 21 2015 22:26 IntoTheheart wrote:On May 21 2015 22:26 sAsImre wrote:On May 21 2015 22:25 IntoTheheart wrote:On May 21 2015 22:24 sAsImre wrote:On May 21 2015 22:23 Elentos wrote:On May 21 2015 22:21 The_Templar wrote:On May 21 2015 22:20 Elentos wrote:
Why are we even discussing TvT?! You can't talk about Bomber without discussing TvT. Bomber doesn't play TvT. He plays BvT. And i'm almost serious he just does his thing that is very very different from everybody else. Congrats on 7k! LR spam OP. Just noticed you had this wonderful team flair in those dark times I feel like we were more relevant back then. =/ And that's saying a lot. we just need a reliable ace/star player :'( which means Guilty for president. Guilty should be fielded more often. Although maybe he shouldn't because that would just cause a bigger team to take him away from Samsung. He really can't get fielded too often because Reality/Bravo should play a lot since both of them are realiable players. Then you get 1 spot for Dear which leaves only one spot, and I doubt you'd want a 3rd T. Honnestly it should be hurricane and this line up might clinch a play off spot with a bit of luck.
What about Solar? That kid was awesome.
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On May 21 2015 22:34 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2015 22:31 IntoTheheart wrote:On May 21 2015 22:30 Elentos wrote:On May 21 2015 22:30 IntoTheheart wrote:On May 21 2015 22:29 GumBa wrote:On May 21 2015 22:27 Elentos wrote:On May 21 2015 22:26 GumBa wrote:On May 21 2015 22:25 gTank wrote:On May 21 2015 22:08 GumBa wrote:On May 21 2015 22:06 Elentos wrote:
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He's whining about balance when there's about 3 Terrans in the world who could have won that game. Maru, Dream and ??? Innovation ofc! Rofl :D His TvZ was pretty good earlier this year. But he doesn't seem to win games like that game 5. Not enough clutchness. He was good at all mu at the start but since iem vs Zest he has went full shit play Does losing one IEM in TvP seriously cost one's TvZ abilities? Well that series cost everyone watching a lot of brain power I reckon. What's the tl;dr? I haven't been able to watch much StarCraft in the past 8 months. One game in particular involved Zest building an oracle, sending it to INno's base where it flew into a missile turret, while running away from the turret it ran into INno's marines that killed it and suddenly Zest's only stalker move commanded to its death in INnoVation's main, causing Zest to GG after about 7 minutes. I was dumbfounded o.O
Then inno did his thing by choking away the series.
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On May 21 2015 22:35 IntoTheheart wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2015 22:34 sAsImre wrote:On May 21 2015 22:29 Elentos wrote:On May 21 2015 22:28 sAsImre wrote:On May 21 2015 22:26 IntoTheheart wrote:On May 21 2015 22:26 sAsImre wrote:On May 21 2015 22:25 IntoTheheart wrote:On May 21 2015 22:24 sAsImre wrote:On May 21 2015 22:23 Elentos wrote:On May 21 2015 22:21 The_Templar wrote:
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Why are we even discussing TvT?! You can't talk about Bomber without discussing TvT. Bomber doesn't play TvT. He plays BvT. And i'm almost serious he just does his thing that is very very different from everybody else. Congrats on 7k! LR spam OP. Just noticed you had this wonderful team flair in those dark times I feel like we were more relevant back then. =/ And that's saying a lot. we just need a reliable ace/star player :'( which means Guilty for president. Guilty should be fielded more often. Although maybe he shouldn't because that would just cause a bigger team to take him away from Samsung. He really can't get fielded too often because Reality/Bravo should play a lot since both of them are realiable players. Then you get 1 spot for Dear which leaves only one spot, and I doubt you'd want a 3rd T. Honnestly it should be hurricane and this line up might clinch a play off spot with a bit of luck. What about Solar? That kid was awesome.
Solar doesnt win in PL
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On May 21 2015 22:35 IntoTheheart wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2015 22:34 sAsImre wrote:On May 21 2015 22:29 Elentos wrote:On May 21 2015 22:28 sAsImre wrote:On May 21 2015 22:26 IntoTheheart wrote:On May 21 2015 22:26 sAsImre wrote:On May 21 2015 22:25 IntoTheheart wrote:On May 21 2015 22:24 sAsImre wrote:On May 21 2015 22:23 Elentos wrote:On May 21 2015 22:21 The_Templar wrote:
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Why are we even discussing TvT?! You can't talk about Bomber without discussing TvT. Bomber doesn't play TvT. He plays BvT. And i'm almost serious he just does his thing that is very very different from everybody else. Congrats on 7k! LR spam OP. Just noticed you had this wonderful team flair in those dark times I feel like we were more relevant back then. =/ And that's saying a lot. we just need a reliable ace/star player :'( which means Guilty for president. Guilty should be fielded more often. Although maybe he shouldn't because that would just cause a bigger team to take him away from Samsung. He really can't get fielded too often because Reality/Bravo should play a lot since both of them are realiable players. Then you get 1 spot for Dear which leaves only one spot, and I doubt you'd want a 3rd T. Honnestly it should be hurricane and this line up might clinch a play off spot with a bit of luck. What about Solar? That kid was awesome.
Solar is 1-10 in Proleague this year.
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