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your Country52797 Posts
On May 21 2015 22:15 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2015 22:14 The_Templar wrote:On May 21 2015 22:12 royalroadweed wrote:
Scarlett can go toe to toe with Dream in the late game as well. Only if she has 70 supply against 140. And plays Protoss
I was referencing her Red City game. 
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On May 21 2015 22:15 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2015 22:13 sAsImre wrote:On May 21 2015 22:13 IntoTheheart wrote:On May 21 2015 22:12 GumBa wrote:On May 21 2015 22:12 IntoTheheart wrote:On May 21 2015 22:09 GumBa wrote:On May 21 2015 22:08 Shellshock wrote:On May 21 2015 22:08 GumBa wrote:On May 21 2015 22:06 Elentos wrote:On May 21 2015 22:05 c0ldfusion wrote:
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I hate this line of argument. So you can't criticize anything that you can't do yourself? Are you saying you have to be a professional athlete to express your opinions when watching sports? Or do you have do be a movie director to express an opinion about a movie? It's really dumb dude. He's whining about balance when there's about 3 Terrans in the world who could have won that game. Maru, Dream and ??? Polt Captain America does have the clutch factor but it's a stretch. Mvp in his prime? If we go into Prime form terrans there are a few :D What about Bomber or ForGG right now? TaeJa even? Bomber doesn't go to the lategame, ForGG mechs and sadly TaeJa sucks nowadays. It's not Bomber's fault you don't agree with his concept of marines being Terran lategame.
I'm more on the side that his opponent dies way earlier than the lategame :D
And i'm loving bomber enough to copy his TvZ :D
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On May 21 2015 22:16 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2015 22:15 GumBa wrote:On May 21 2015 22:13 IntoTheheart wrote:On May 21 2015 22:12 GumBa wrote:On May 21 2015 22:12 IntoTheheart wrote:On May 21 2015 22:09 GumBa wrote:On May 21 2015 22:08 Shellshock wrote:On May 21 2015 22:08 GumBa wrote:On May 21 2015 22:06 Elentos wrote:On May 21 2015 22:05 c0ldfusion wrote:
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I hate this line of argument. So you can't criticize anything that you can't do yourself? Are you saying you have to be a professional athlete to express your opinions when watching sports? Or do you have do be a movie director to express an opinion about a movie? It's really dumb dude. He's whining about balance when there's about 3 Terrans in the world who could have won that game. Maru, Dream and ??? Polt Captain America does have the clutch factor but it's a stretch. Mvp in his prime? If we go into Prime form terrans there are a few :D What about Bomber or ForGG right now? TaeJa even? Right now I think Dream and Maru are far and away the best terrans with Bbyong probably a distant third right now seeing as INno has completly dropped the ball and I need to see more of Bomber. Bomber might actually be legit but we need more games of him idd
Where is Bomber right now? I seem to think that he's in Korea.
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On May 21 2015 22:15 IntoTheheart wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2015 22:15 GumBa wrote:On May 21 2015 22:13 IntoTheheart wrote:On May 21 2015 22:12 GumBa wrote:On May 21 2015 22:12 IntoTheheart wrote:On May 21 2015 22:09 GumBa wrote:On May 21 2015 22:08 Shellshock wrote:On May 21 2015 22:08 GumBa wrote:On May 21 2015 22:06 Elentos wrote:On May 21 2015 22:05 c0ldfusion wrote:
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I hate this line of argument. So you can't criticize anything that you can't do yourself? Are you saying you have to be a professional athlete to express your opinions when watching sports? Or do you have do be a movie director to express an opinion about a movie? It's really dumb dude. He's whining about balance when there's about 3 Terrans in the world who could have won that game. Maru, Dream and ??? Polt Captain America does have the clutch factor but it's a stretch. Mvp in his prime? If we go into Prime form terrans there are a few :D What about Bomber or ForGG right now? TaeJa even? Right now I think Dream and Maru are far and away the best terrans with Bbyong probably a distant third right now seeing as INno has completly dropped the ball and I need to see more of Bomber. B4 is a beast at TvT. I don't know much about his TvZ, but he beat Life recently-ish.
B4? Seriously? How many Bs do you see in Bbyong?
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United Kingdom31935 Posts
On May 21 2015 22:15 IntoTheheart wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2015 22:15 GumBa wrote:On May 21 2015 22:13 IntoTheheart wrote:On May 21 2015 22:12 GumBa wrote:On May 21 2015 22:12 IntoTheheart wrote:On May 21 2015 22:09 GumBa wrote:On May 21 2015 22:08 Shellshock wrote:On May 21 2015 22:08 GumBa wrote:On May 21 2015 22:06 Elentos wrote:On May 21 2015 22:05 c0ldfusion wrote:
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I hate this line of argument. So you can't criticize anything that you can't do yourself? Are you saying you have to be a professional athlete to express your opinions when watching sports? Or do you have do be a movie director to express an opinion about a movie? It's really dumb dude. He's whining about balance when there's about 3 Terrans in the world who could have won that game. Maru, Dream and ??? Polt Captain America does have the clutch factor but it's a stretch. Mvp in his prime? If we go into Prime form terrans there are a few :D What about Bomber or ForGG right now? TaeJa even? Right now I think Dream and Maru are far and away the best terrans with Bbyong probably a distant third right now seeing as INno has completly dropped the ball and I need to see more of Bomber. B4 is a beast at TvT. I don't know much about his TvZ, but he beat Life recently-ish.
Bbyong TvT swings between creating game of the year 2014 and building 4 ccs vs BravO though. His TvZ is abusive but he does it so well and his macro game is pretty solid and his TvP is solid overall. Yeah Bbyong is probably #3 right now.
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On May 21 2015 22:16 IntoTheheart wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2015 22:16 Penev wrote:On May 21 2015 22:15 GumBa wrote:On May 21 2015 22:13 IntoTheheart wrote:On May 21 2015 22:12 GumBa wrote:On May 21 2015 22:12 IntoTheheart wrote:On May 21 2015 22:09 GumBa wrote:On May 21 2015 22:08 Shellshock wrote:On May 21 2015 22:08 GumBa wrote:On May 21 2015 22:06 Elentos wrote:
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He's whining about balance when there's about 3 Terrans in the world who could have won that game. Maru, Dream and ??? Polt Captain America does have the clutch factor but it's a stretch. Mvp in his prime? If we go into Prime form terrans there are a few :D What about Bomber or ForGG right now? TaeJa even? Right now I think Dream and Maru are far and away the best terrans with Bbyong probably a distant third right now seeing as INno has completly dropped the ball and I need to see more of Bomber. Bomber might actually be legit but we need more games of him idd Where is Bomber right now? I seem to think that he's in Korea.
He played Proleague on Tuesday and has GSL group selection tomorrow so it's safe to assume he's in Korea <.<
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United Kingdom31935 Posts
On May 21 2015 22:16 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2015 22:15 GumBa wrote:On May 21 2015 22:13 IntoTheheart wrote:On May 21 2015 22:12 GumBa wrote:On May 21 2015 22:12 IntoTheheart wrote:On May 21 2015 22:09 GumBa wrote:On May 21 2015 22:08 Shellshock wrote:On May 21 2015 22:08 GumBa wrote:On May 21 2015 22:06 Elentos wrote:On May 21 2015 22:05 c0ldfusion wrote:
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I hate this line of argument. So you can't criticize anything that you can't do yourself? Are you saying you have to be a professional athlete to express your opinions when watching sports? Or do you have do be a movie director to express an opinion about a movie? It's really dumb dude. He's whining about balance when there's about 3 Terrans in the world who could have won that game. Maru, Dream and ??? Polt Captain America does have the clutch factor but it's a stretch. Mvp in his prime? If we go into Prime form terrans there are a few :D What about Bomber or ForGG right now? TaeJa even? Right now I think Dream and Maru are far and away the best terrans with Bbyong probably a distant third right now seeing as INno has completly dropped the ball and I need to see more of Bomber. Bomber might actually be legit but we need more games of him idd
Bomber definetly could but I need to see him in a few more PL matches and the ro16 in GSL to be sure yeah
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On May 21 2015 22:15 IntoTheheart wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2015 22:15 GumBa wrote:On May 21 2015 22:13 IntoTheheart wrote:On May 21 2015 22:12 GumBa wrote:On May 21 2015 22:12 IntoTheheart wrote:On May 21 2015 22:09 GumBa wrote:On May 21 2015 22:08 Shellshock wrote:On May 21 2015 22:08 GumBa wrote:On May 21 2015 22:06 Elentos wrote:On May 21 2015 22:05 c0ldfusion wrote:
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I hate this line of argument. So you can't criticize anything that you can't do yourself? Are you saying you have to be a professional athlete to express your opinions when watching sports? Or do you have do be a movie director to express an opinion about a movie? It's really dumb dude. He's whining about balance when there's about 3 Terrans in the world who could have won that game. Maru, Dream and ??? Polt Captain America does have the clutch factor but it's a stretch. Mvp in his prime? If we go into Prime form terrans there are a few :D What about Bomber or ForGG right now? TaeJa even? Right now I think Dream and Maru are far and away the best terrans with Bbyong probably a distant third right now seeing as INno has completly dropped the ball and I need to see more of Bomber. B4 is a beast at TvT. I don't know much about his TvZ, but he beat Life recently-ish.
bomber is probably n°1 TvT and he can beat anyone in TvZ if he gets the good build orders at the good time. but his TvP is shit.
BByong is the only solid performer in the 3 match ups behind the two monsters these days.
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On May 21 2015 22:17 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2015 22:15 IntoTheheart wrote:On May 21 2015 22:15 GumBa wrote:On May 21 2015 22:13 IntoTheheart wrote:On May 21 2015 22:12 GumBa wrote:On May 21 2015 22:12 IntoTheheart wrote:On May 21 2015 22:09 GumBa wrote:On May 21 2015 22:08 Shellshock wrote:On May 21 2015 22:08 GumBa wrote:On May 21 2015 22:06 Elentos wrote:
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He's whining about balance when there's about 3 Terrans in the world who could have won that game. Maru, Dream and ??? Polt Captain America does have the clutch factor but it's a stretch. Mvp in his prime? If we go into Prime form terrans there are a few :D What about Bomber or ForGG right now? TaeJa even? Right now I think Dream and Maru are far and away the best terrans with Bbyong probably a distant third right now seeing as INno has completly dropped the ball and I need to see more of Bomber. B4 is a beast at TvT. I don't know much about his TvZ, but he beat Life recently-ish. B4? Seriously? How many Bs do you see in Bbyong?
He used to be Bbyongbbyong, no?
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United States97276 Posts
On May 21 2015 22:19 IntoTheheart wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2015 22:17 Elentos wrote:On May 21 2015 22:15 IntoTheheart wrote:On May 21 2015 22:15 GumBa wrote:On May 21 2015 22:13 IntoTheheart wrote:On May 21 2015 22:12 GumBa wrote:On May 21 2015 22:12 IntoTheheart wrote:On May 21 2015 22:09 GumBa wrote:On May 21 2015 22:08 Shellshock wrote:On May 21 2015 22:08 GumBa wrote:
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Maru, Dream and ??? Polt Captain America does have the clutch factor but it's a stretch. Mvp in his prime? If we go into Prime form terrans there are a few :D What about Bomber or ForGG right now? TaeJa even? Right now I think Dream and Maru are far and away the best terrans with Bbyong probably a distant third right now seeing as INno has completly dropped the ball and I need to see more of Bomber. B4 is a beast at TvT. I don't know much about his TvZ, but he beat Life recently-ish. B4? Seriously? How many Bs do you see in Bbyong? He used to be Bbyongbbyong, no?
you're thinking of BBoongBBoong who is a zerg
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On May 21 2015 22:20 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2015 22:19 IntoTheheart wrote:On May 21 2015 22:17 Elentos wrote:On May 21 2015 22:15 IntoTheheart wrote:On May 21 2015 22:15 GumBa wrote:On May 21 2015 22:13 IntoTheheart wrote:On May 21 2015 22:12 GumBa wrote:On May 21 2015 22:12 IntoTheheart wrote:On May 21 2015 22:09 GumBa wrote:On May 21 2015 22:08 Shellshock wrote:
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Polt Captain America does have the clutch factor but it's a stretch. Mvp in his prime? If we go into Prime form terrans there are a few :D What about Bomber or ForGG right now? TaeJa even? Right now I think Dream and Maru are far and away the best terrans with Bbyong probably a distant third right now seeing as INno has completly dropped the ball and I need to see more of Bomber. B4 is a beast at TvT. I don't know much about his TvZ, but he beat Life recently-ish. B4? Seriously? How many Bs do you see in Bbyong? He used to be Bbyongbbyong, no? you're thinking of BBoongBBoong who is a zerg
There we go. My passion is in a massive slump.
If TL ever introduces the ability to change display names, guess I'll do that.
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Poll: Best TvZ?Dream (13) 87% Bbyong (1) 7% Cure (1) 7% Maru (0) 0% Bomber (0) 0% 15 total votes Your vote: Best TvZ? (Vote): Dream
(Vote): Bbyong
(Vote): Maru
(Vote): Cure
(Vote): Bomber
Poll: Best TvT?Bomber (5) 33% Flash (4) 27% Maru (3) 20% MMA (1) 7% TY (1) 7% Bbyong (1) 7% 15 total votes Your vote: Best TvT? (Vote): Bomber
(Vote): Maru
(Vote): MMA
(Vote): TY
(Vote): Flash
(Vote): Bbyong
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On May 21 2015 22:16 IntoTheheart wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2015 22:16 Penev wrote:On May 21 2015 22:15 GumBa wrote:On May 21 2015 22:13 IntoTheheart wrote:On May 21 2015 22:12 GumBa wrote:On May 21 2015 22:12 IntoTheheart wrote:On May 21 2015 22:09 GumBa wrote:On May 21 2015 22:08 Shellshock wrote:On May 21 2015 22:08 GumBa wrote:On May 21 2015 22:06 Elentos wrote:
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He's whining about balance when there's about 3 Terrans in the world who could have won that game. Maru, Dream and ??? Polt Captain America does have the clutch factor but it's a stretch. Mvp in his prime? If we go into Prime form terrans there are a few :D What about Bomber or ForGG right now? TaeJa even? Right now I think Dream and Maru are far and away the best terrans with Bbyong probably a distant third right now seeing as INno has completly dropped the ball and I need to see more of Bomber. Bomber might actually be legit but we need more games of him idd Where is Bomber right now? I seem to think that he's in Korea.
He's on
STYLE
START
SBENU
and he did win for them in Proleague this week
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elentos, so obvious that maru is n°1 vP that there is no poll :D ?
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Yeah I would put:
1 - Maru
2- Dream these two can be swapped around depending on the match up though but these two are clear top 2
3-Bbyong seems the most solid
and then a hodge podge of the rest with Bomber being closest to top3
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your Country52797 Posts
On May 21 2015 22:20 Elentos wrote:
Why are we even discussing TvT?!
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On May 21 2015 22:03 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2015 22:01 Tyrhanius wrote:
This last game make me sick, Life plays so well, but dream just win thx to lucky WM hit, 3/3 and the ability to make PF and repair expansion...He loses every engagement, all his dropship dies, loses thousands SCV, no problem you can't take my expansion/mules, i infinitly reprod and rally units... Go Terran and try doing what Dream did. I bet you couldn't.
So you can do what Life does ? Never in 10 lives.
Dream biggest achievement for now is beating life, and ofc when Zergs are in a lot of trouble. Life ? Too long to mention his achievements.
And if in this game Dream have outplayed Life or show some great plays/skill i will be cheering Dream, but it was just amazing plays from Life, ahead all the time but comeback from Dream aren't related to his skill but just more easier acess to 3/3 to his race, WM random auto-shots, Mules that allow to stay in the game even if you loses a lot of worker, PF that defend itself and zerg can't kill it while a few 3/3 bio kills a hatch in 5s, repair that can save a nearly dead building, and out-repair the dmg the unit can deals...
Dream don't even win a single fight...
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On May 21 2015 22:21 sAsImre wrote:
elentos, so obvious that maru is n°1 vP that there is no poll :D ?
+ Show Spoiler +On May 21 2015 06:14 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2015 05:30 Shellshock wrote:On May 21 2015 05:29 Elentos wrote:On May 21 2015 05:28 The_Templar wrote:On May 21 2015 05:28 Elentos wrote:
Oh also if my PC randomly dies mid-broadcast feel free to take over. Blue Screen's been haunting me this week. I'll keep an eye out. Thanks. On May 21 2015 05:27 Shellshock wrote:
I think herO is going to beat Maru. He is the best PvT player in the world now. Parting has dropped some suspect maps that are making me doubt him as the best. I mean he went 4-3 vs Taeja which is pretty weak. herO might be the #1 toss now Not sure. I don't think PartinG played any of those games he lost vT when sober <.< that's true but it ruins my narrative Let's just settle this with a good old-fashioned poll. Poll: Best PvT?CJ herO (14) 45% PartinG (14) 45% HasuObs (2) 6% Stats (1) 3% 31 total votes Your vote: Best PvT? (Vote): CJ herO
(Vote): PartinG
(Vote): Stats
(Vote): HasuObs
Poll: Best TvP?Maru (20) 71% Polt (3) 11% GoOdy (3) 11% Dream (2) 7% 28 total votes Your vote: Best TvP? (Vote): Maru
(Vote): Dream
(Vote): Polt
(Vote): GoOdy
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On May 21 2015 22:21 Tyrhanius wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2015 22:03 Elentos wrote:On May 21 2015 22:01 Tyrhanius wrote:
This last game make me sick, Life plays so well, but dream just win thx to lucky WM hit, 3/3 and the ability to make PF and repair expansion...He loses every engagement, all his dropship dies, loses thousands SCV, no problem you can't take my expansion/mules, i infinitly reprod and rally units... Go Terran and try doing what Dream did. I bet you couldn't. So you can do what Life does ? Never in 10 lives. Dream biggest achievement for now is beating life, and ofc when Zergs are in a lot of trouble. Life ? Too long to mention his achievements. And if in this game Dream have outplayed Life or show some great plays/skill i will be cheering Dream, but it was just amazing plays from Life, ahead all the time but comeback from Dream aren't related to his skill but just more easier acess to 3/3 to his race, WM random auto-shots, Mules that allow to stay in the game even if you loses a lot of worker, PF that defend itself and zerg can't kill it while a few 3/3 bio kills a hatch in 5s, repair that can save a nearly dead building, and out-repair the dmg the unit can deals... Dream don't even win a single fight...
Dreams biggest achievment is getting second last SSL lol
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