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On May 08 2015 18:56 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2015 18:55 TheDwf wrote:On May 08 2015 18:54 DarkLordOlli wrote:On May 08 2015 18:53 TheDwf wrote:On May 08 2015 18:51 DarkLordOlli wrote:On May 08 2015 18:51 TheDwf wrote:On May 08 2015 18:50 DarkLordOlli wrote: Oh yeah, MSC scouting isn't viable anymore. You have to play in the dark. LOL Tell me how to scout the terran's build if your early probe scout is denied. Why would I tell you anything, considering you're only mad because your favorite player heavily blundered and lost 25 Probes as a consequence? That's the answer I expected. I'm not mad actually. It was a poor decision to do it and he got punished for it. But it's great to see you go "LOL" first and then avoid an actual answer, because you know I'm right. Hahahaha, nothing like the spectacle of upset fans in the morning I'll start taking you seriously again once you tell me how you're supposed to scout terran before an observer ~
I'd reply with my thoughts, but it's more fun to see how TheDwf will react <3
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On May 08 2015 18:55 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2015 18:54 Paljas wrote:On May 08 2015 18:51 DarkLordOlli wrote:On May 08 2015 18:51 TheDwf wrote:On May 08 2015 18:50 DarkLordOlli wrote: Oh yeah, MSC scouting isn't viable anymore. You have to play in the dark. LOL Tell me how to scout the terran's build if your early probe scout is denied. the same ways toss did it through out all of wol Exactly. WoL PvT was a guessing game if you didn't get a probe scout off. You just had to open safe robo. you could guess a terrans build pretty well with a careful zealot/stalker poke also now you have nexus cannon, which is why you can open safe robo, safe stargate or safe twilight.
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On May 08 2015 18:56 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2015 18:55 TheDwf wrote:On May 08 2015 18:54 DarkLordOlli wrote:On May 08 2015 18:53 TheDwf wrote:On May 08 2015 18:51 DarkLordOlli wrote:On May 08 2015 18:51 TheDwf wrote:On May 08 2015 18:50 DarkLordOlli wrote: Oh yeah, MSC scouting isn't viable anymore. You have to play in the dark. LOL Tell me how to scout the terran's build if your early probe scout is denied. Why would I tell you anything, considering you're only mad because your favorite player heavily blundered and lost 25 Probes as a consequence? That's the answer I expected. I'm not mad actually. It was a poor decision to do it and he got punished for it. But it's great to see you go "LOL" first and then avoid an actual answer, because you know I'm right. Hahahaha, nothing like the spectacle of upset fans in the morning I'll start taking you seriously again once you tell me how you're supposed to scout terran before an observer ~ You're not?
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On May 08 2015 18:55 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2015 18:54 Paljas wrote:On May 08 2015 18:51 DarkLordOlli wrote:On May 08 2015 18:51 TheDwf wrote:On May 08 2015 18:50 DarkLordOlli wrote: Oh yeah, MSC scouting isn't viable anymore. You have to play in the dark. LOL Tell me how to scout the terran's build if your early probe scout is denied. the same ways toss did it through out all of wol Exactly. WoL PvT was a guessing game if you didn't get a probe scout off. You just had to open safe robo.
Yet safe robo is still extremely viable, protoss are only salty because they would rather blind blink or oracle and guarantee damage.
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On May 08 2015 18:56 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2015 18:55 TheDwf wrote:On May 08 2015 18:54 DarkLordOlli wrote:On May 08 2015 18:53 TheDwf wrote:On May 08 2015 18:51 DarkLordOlli wrote:On May 08 2015 18:51 TheDwf wrote:On May 08 2015 18:50 DarkLordOlli wrote: Oh yeah, MSC scouting isn't viable anymore. You have to play in the dark. LOL Tell me how to scout the terran's build if your early probe scout is denied. Why would I tell you anything, considering you're only mad because your favorite player heavily blundered and lost 25 Probes as a consequence? That's the answer I expected. I'm not mad actually. It was a poor decision to do it and he got punished for it. But it's great to see you go "LOL" first and then avoid an actual answer, because you know I'm right. Hahahaha, nothing like the spectacle of upset fans in the morning I'll start taking you seriously again once you tell me how you're supposed to scout terran before an observer ~ hallucinations
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Austria24416 Posts
On May 08 2015 18:57 Paljas wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2015 18:56 DarkLordOlli wrote:On May 08 2015 18:55 TheDwf wrote:On May 08 2015 18:54 DarkLordOlli wrote:On May 08 2015 18:53 TheDwf wrote:On May 08 2015 18:51 DarkLordOlli wrote:On May 08 2015 18:51 TheDwf wrote:On May 08 2015 18:50 DarkLordOlli wrote: Oh yeah, MSC scouting isn't viable anymore. You have to play in the dark. LOL Tell me how to scout the terran's build if your early probe scout is denied. Why would I tell you anything, considering you're only mad because your favorite player heavily blundered and lost 25 Probes as a consequence? That's the answer I expected. I'm not mad actually. It was a poor decision to do it and he got punished for it. But it's great to see you go "LOL" first and then avoid an actual answer, because you know I'm right. Hahahaha, nothing like the spectacle of upset fans in the morning I'll start taking you seriously again once you tell me how you're supposed to scout terran before an observer ~ hallucinations
Yeah, absolutely not.
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On May 08 2015 18:57 Paljas wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2015 18:56 DarkLordOlli wrote:On May 08 2015 18:55 TheDwf wrote:On May 08 2015 18:54 DarkLordOlli wrote:On May 08 2015 18:53 TheDwf wrote:On May 08 2015 18:51 DarkLordOlli wrote:On May 08 2015 18:51 TheDwf wrote:On May 08 2015 18:50 DarkLordOlli wrote: Oh yeah, MSC scouting isn't viable anymore. You have to play in the dark. LOL Tell me how to scout the terran's build if your early probe scout is denied. Why would I tell you anything, considering you're only mad because your favorite player heavily blundered and lost 25 Probes as a consequence? That's the answer I expected. I'm not mad actually. It was a poor decision to do it and he got punished for it. But it's great to see you go "LOL" first and then avoid an actual answer, because you know I'm right. Hahahaha, nothing like the spectacle of upset fans in the morning I'll start taking you seriously again once you tell me how you're supposed to scout terran before an observer ~ hallucinations
1 base oracle
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Austria24416 Posts
On May 08 2015 18:57 Paljas wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2015 18:55 DarkLordOlli wrote:On May 08 2015 18:54 Paljas wrote:On May 08 2015 18:51 DarkLordOlli wrote:On May 08 2015 18:51 TheDwf wrote:On May 08 2015 18:50 DarkLordOlli wrote: Oh yeah, MSC scouting isn't viable anymore. You have to play in the dark. LOL Tell me how to scout the terran's build if your early probe scout is denied. the same ways toss did it through out all of wol Exactly. WoL PvT was a guessing game if you didn't get a probe scout off. You just had to open safe robo. you could guess a terrans build pretty well with a careful zealot/stalker poke also now you have nexus cannon, which is why you can open safe robo, safe stargate or safe twilight.
Completely wrong. There are build order disadvantages (even straight up losses) to each if you have to play blindly.
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On May 08 2015 18:58 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2015 18:57 Paljas wrote:On May 08 2015 18:56 DarkLordOlli wrote:On May 08 2015 18:55 TheDwf wrote:On May 08 2015 18:54 DarkLordOlli wrote:On May 08 2015 18:53 TheDwf wrote:On May 08 2015 18:51 DarkLordOlli wrote:On May 08 2015 18:51 TheDwf wrote:On May 08 2015 18:50 DarkLordOlli wrote: Oh yeah, MSC scouting isn't viable anymore. You have to play in the dark. LOL Tell me how to scout the terran's build if your early probe scout is denied. Why would I tell you anything, considering you're only mad because your favorite player heavily blundered and lost 25 Probes as a consequence? That's the answer I expected. I'm not mad actually. It was a poor decision to do it and he got punished for it. But it's great to see you go "LOL" first and then avoid an actual answer, because you know I'm right. Hahahaha, nothing like the spectacle of upset fans in the morning I'll start taking you seriously again once you tell me how you're supposed to scout terran before an observer ~ hallucinations Yeah, absolutely not.
Scout with a probe earlier instead of being a greedy ****?
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Czech Republic12125 Posts
On May 08 2015 18:57 Caihead wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2015 18:55 DarkLordOlli wrote:On May 08 2015 18:54 Paljas wrote:On May 08 2015 18:51 DarkLordOlli wrote:On May 08 2015 18:51 TheDwf wrote:On May 08 2015 18:50 DarkLordOlli wrote: Oh yeah, MSC scouting isn't viable anymore. You have to play in the dark. LOL Tell me how to scout the terran's build if your early probe scout is denied. the same ways toss did it through out all of wol Exactly. WoL PvT was a guessing game if you didn't get a probe scout off. You just had to open safe robo. Yet safe robo is still extremely viable, protoss are only salty because they would rather blind blink or oracle and guarantee damage. You can go blind blink or blind oracle and be safe.
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On May 08 2015 18:50 DarkLordOlli wrote: Oh yeah, MSC scouting isn't viable anymore. You have to play in the dark. It's always been a game of incomplete information. If you want to scout that badly get a faster robo/sentry/stargate. I don't think it's reasonable to expand and expect full reconnaissance, just play a little safer.
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Luckily I prefer the manly race
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Hint: HerO has already seen what he needs to this game.
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somewhere Sojung is very very nervous
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Terrans and Protoss arguing. Manly Zergs watching and laughing. I like the way the world is made.
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On May 08 2015 18:58 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2015 18:57 Paljas wrote:On May 08 2015 18:56 DarkLordOlli wrote:On May 08 2015 18:55 TheDwf wrote:On May 08 2015 18:54 DarkLordOlli wrote:On May 08 2015 18:53 TheDwf wrote:On May 08 2015 18:51 DarkLordOlli wrote:On May 08 2015 18:51 TheDwf wrote:On May 08 2015 18:50 DarkLordOlli wrote: Oh yeah, MSC scouting isn't viable anymore. You have to play in the dark. LOL Tell me how to scout the terran's build if your early probe scout is denied. Why would I tell you anything, considering you're only mad because your favorite player heavily blundered and lost 25 Probes as a consequence? That's the answer I expected. I'm not mad actually. It was a poor decision to do it and he got punished for it. But it's great to see you go "LOL" first and then avoid an actual answer, because you know I'm right. Hahahaha, nothing like the spectacle of upset fans in the morning I'll start taking you seriously again once you tell me how you're supposed to scout terran before an observer ~ hallucinations Yeah, absolutely not. Why would you want to scout terran early game? It's not like there are too many variations apart from widow mine drop or hellion shenanigans. I'm a scrub though.
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Czech Republic12125 Posts
Just a question - HerO did not see the reaper last game on time? Because to me MSC scout does not make sense. Thanks!
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On May 08 2015 19:00 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2015 18:58 DarkLordOlli wrote:On May 08 2015 18:57 Paljas wrote:On May 08 2015 18:56 DarkLordOlli wrote:On May 08 2015 18:55 TheDwf wrote:On May 08 2015 18:54 DarkLordOlli wrote:On May 08 2015 18:53 TheDwf wrote:On May 08 2015 18:51 DarkLordOlli wrote:On May 08 2015 18:51 TheDwf wrote:On May 08 2015 18:50 DarkLordOlli wrote: Oh yeah, MSC scouting isn't viable anymore. You have to play in the dark. LOL Tell me how to scout the terran's build if your early probe scout is denied. Why would I tell you anything, considering you're only mad because your favorite player heavily blundered and lost 25 Probes as a consequence? That's the answer I expected. I'm not mad actually. It was a poor decision to do it and he got punished for it. But it's great to see you go "LOL" first and then avoid an actual answer, because you know I'm right. Hahahaha, nothing like the spectacle of upset fans in the morning I'll start taking you seriously again once you tell me how you're supposed to scout terran before an observer ~ hallucinations Yeah, absolutely not. Why would you want to scout terran early game? It's not like there are too many variations apart from widow mine drop or hellion shenanigans. I'm a scrub though.
it is pretty important to know if it's hellions, wm drop, what order the cc comes in, if it's an infantry poke..
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On May 08 2015 19:00 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2015 18:58 DarkLordOlli wrote:On May 08 2015 18:57 Paljas wrote:On May 08 2015 18:56 DarkLordOlli wrote:On May 08 2015 18:55 TheDwf wrote:On May 08 2015 18:54 DarkLordOlli wrote:On May 08 2015 18:53 TheDwf wrote:On May 08 2015 18:51 DarkLordOlli wrote:On May 08 2015 18:51 TheDwf wrote:On May 08 2015 18:50 DarkLordOlli wrote: Oh yeah, MSC scouting isn't viable anymore. You have to play in the dark. LOL Tell me how to scout the terran's build if your early probe scout is denied. Why would I tell you anything, considering you're only mad because your favorite player heavily blundered and lost 25 Probes as a consequence? That's the answer I expected. I'm not mad actually. It was a poor decision to do it and he got punished for it. But it's great to see you go "LOL" first and then avoid an actual answer, because you know I'm right. Hahahaha, nothing like the spectacle of upset fans in the morning I'll start taking you seriously again once you tell me how you're supposed to scout terran before an observer ~ hallucinations Yeah, absolutely not. Why would you want to scout terran early game? It's not like there are too many variations apart from widow mine drop or hellion shenanigans. I'm a scrub though.
Yeah the important part is to see if it's 1-1-1 opening or 3 rax. Basically you want to sneak a probe in after the reaper has left to scout the gas.
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