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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
May 01 2015 12:26 GMT
#821
On May 01 2015 21:23 Alucen-Will- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2015 21:23 Ej_ wrote:
On May 01 2015 21:23 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On May 01 2015 21:22 GumBa wrote:
On May 01 2015 21:21 Elentos wrote:
On May 01 2015 21:20 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On May 01 2015 21:19 Elentos wrote:
On May 01 2015 21:17 GumBa wrote:
On May 01 2015 21:16 Elentos wrote:
On May 01 2015 21:15 DarkLordOlli wrote:
[quote]

I wouldn't favor Flash over Dream personally.

One of them is good at TvT, the other one of them is Dream.

Have we actually seen Flash's TvT recently at all? Dream could do his good ole 2 base doom drop and pray start and squeak by.

He hasn't played a broadcasted TvT series (longer than bo1) since Homestory Cup I think. He rekt Cure in the KeSPA Cup qualifiers though and Cure TvT > Dream TvT.


Games weren't broadcast though. Nobody knows what happened.

He won though. And Cure is really good at TvT. Nevermind that Flash's TvT all-time is at nearly 70% while Dream is below 50%. Dream's good enough in TvT, don't get me wrong, but he's not top tier.

Beating Cure recently is no massive feat of strength though.



.....He is 9-3 in Proleague and dropped out of individual leagues to Rain and Soulkey...

you saw the series vs Soulkey?


Yes..3 long macro games...

2 macro games where Cure didn't split and 1 game where SK didn't even bother and just rolled over Cure with banes
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
May 01 2015 12:26 GMT
#822
lol guys, Dream is good at preparing and winning from good preparation. FlaSh won't even stand a chachance.
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GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
May 01 2015 12:27 GMT
#823
On May 01 2015 21:26 OtherWorld wrote:
lol guys, Dream is good at preparing and winning from good preparation. FlaSh won't even stand a chachance.

His TvT prep is 2base doom drop or die though. And I say this as a MASSIVE Dream fan.
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
May 01 2015 12:27 GMT
#824
On May 01 2015 21:26 OtherWorld wrote:
lol guys, Dream is good at preparing and winning from good preparation. FlaSh won't even stand a chachance.

You have Flash in your signature but never say anything good about him, I am confuzzled. Fo shizzle.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Alucen-Will-
Profile Joined October 2014
United States4054 Posts
May 01 2015 12:27 GMT
#825
On May 01 2015 21:26 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2015 21:23 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On May 01 2015 21:23 Ej_ wrote:
On May 01 2015 21:23 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On May 01 2015 21:22 GumBa wrote:
On May 01 2015 21:21 Elentos wrote:
On May 01 2015 21:20 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On May 01 2015 21:19 Elentos wrote:
On May 01 2015 21:17 GumBa wrote:
On May 01 2015 21:16 Elentos wrote:
[quote]
One of them is good at TvT, the other one of them is Dream.

Have we actually seen Flash's TvT recently at all? Dream could do his good ole 2 base doom drop and pray start and squeak by.

He hasn't played a broadcasted TvT series (longer than bo1) since Homestory Cup I think. He rekt Cure in the KeSPA Cup qualifiers though and Cure TvT > Dream TvT.


Games weren't broadcast though. Nobody knows what happened.

He won though. And Cure is really good at TvT. Nevermind that Flash's TvT all-time is at nearly 70% while Dream is below 50%. Dream's good enough in TvT, don't get me wrong, but he's not top tier.

Beating Cure recently is no massive feat of strength though.



.....He is 9-3 in Proleague and dropped out of individual leagues to Rain and Soulkey...

you saw the series vs Soulkey?


Yes..3 long macro games...

2 macro games where Cure didn't split and 1 game where SK didn't even bother and just rolled over Cure with banes


I hate that Cure has a reputation for not microing. He actually has exceptional micro in most of his TvZ Bio/mine games against Zerg. It's like 2 games where he didn't split and he forever has a reputation of not microing his marines
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
May 01 2015 12:27 GMT
#826
On May 01 2015 21:27 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2015 21:26 OtherWorld wrote:
lol guys, Dream is good at preparing and winning from good preparation. FlaSh won't even stand a chachance.

His TvT prep is 2base doom drop or die though. And I say this as a MASSIVE Dream fan.

I hope for an in-base proxy marauder
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
May 01 2015 12:27 GMT
#827
On May 01 2015 21:26 OtherWorld wrote:
lol guys, Dream is good at preparing and winning from good preparation. FlaSh won't even stand a chachance.

I am not sure. Dream is amazing at TvZ, but his other two match-ups aren't on that level.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
May 01 2015 12:28 GMT
#828
On May 01 2015 21:27 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2015 21:26 OtherWorld wrote:
lol guys, Dream is good at preparing and winning from good preparation. FlaSh won't even stand a chachance.

I am not sure. Dream is amazing at TvZ, but his other two match-ups aren't on that level.

His TvP is very good.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
in_flvxx
Profile Joined March 2015
Australia226 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-01 12:28:47
May 01 2015 12:28 GMT
#829
On May 01 2015 21:24 Alucen-Will- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2015 21:23 in_flvxx wrote:
On May 01 2015 21:22 GumBa wrote:
On May 01 2015 21:21 Elentos wrote:
On May 01 2015 21:20 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On May 01 2015 21:19 Elentos wrote:
On May 01 2015 21:17 GumBa wrote:
On May 01 2015 21:16 Elentos wrote:
On May 01 2015 21:15 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On May 01 2015 21:14 Elentos wrote:
[quote]
TvT vs Dream is free win, then loses vs herO and beats either Dream in the rematch or Patience. EZ.


I wouldn't favor Flash over Dream personally.

One of them is good at TvT, the other one of them is Dream.

Have we actually seen Flash's TvT recently at all? Dream could do his good ole 2 base doom drop and pray start and squeak by.

He hasn't played a broadcasted TvT series (longer than bo1) since Homestory Cup I think. He rekt Cure in the KeSPA Cup qualifiers though and Cure TvT > Dream TvT.


Games weren't broadcast though. Nobody knows what happened.

He won though. And Cure is really good at TvT. Nevermind that Flash's TvT all-time is at nearly 70% while Dream is below 50%. Dream's good enough in TvT, don't get me wrong, but he's not top tier.

Beating Cure recently is no massive feat of strength though.

This is actually so true. It's unfortunate that TRUE and Cure both haven't maintained their form after GSL semifinal runs. They both seemed to have so much potential.


Don't equate TRUE's form to Cure

I agree that TRUE was too stylistically niche to play at a high level for an extended period of time, but he could've been a high-calibre player nontheless.

Cure seems to be the opposite. He's solid, but not too special against top-tier opponents.
Zest | herO || Life | Dark || Bomber | Maru | Dream | TY | Flash
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
May 01 2015 12:28 GMT
#830
On May 01 2015 21:27 Alucen-Will- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2015 21:26 Ej_ wrote:
On May 01 2015 21:23 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On May 01 2015 21:23 Ej_ wrote:
On May 01 2015 21:23 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On May 01 2015 21:22 GumBa wrote:
On May 01 2015 21:21 Elentos wrote:
On May 01 2015 21:20 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On May 01 2015 21:19 Elentos wrote:
On May 01 2015 21:17 GumBa wrote:
[quote]
Have we actually seen Flash's TvT recently at all? Dream could do his good ole 2 base doom drop and pray start and squeak by.

He hasn't played a broadcasted TvT series (longer than bo1) since Homestory Cup I think. He rekt Cure in the KeSPA Cup qualifiers though and Cure TvT > Dream TvT.


Games weren't broadcast though. Nobody knows what happened.

He won though. And Cure is really good at TvT. Nevermind that Flash's TvT all-time is at nearly 70% while Dream is below 50%. Dream's good enough in TvT, don't get me wrong, but he's not top tier.

Beating Cure recently is no massive feat of strength though.



.....He is 9-3 in Proleague and dropped out of individual leagues to Rain and Soulkey...

you saw the series vs Soulkey?


Yes..3 long macro games...

2 macro games where Cure didn't split and 1 game where SK didn't even bother and just rolled over Cure with banes


I hate that Cure has a reputation for not microing. He actually has exceptional micro in most of his TvZ Bio/mine games against Zerg. It's like 2 games where he didn't split and he forever has a reputation of not microing his marines

I have never heard of his no micro rep lol where do you hear that?
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
May 01 2015 12:28 GMT
#831
On May 01 2015 21:26 OtherWorld wrote:
lol guys, Dream is good at preparing and winning from good preparation. FlaSh won't even stand a chachance.


Must've slacked in that SSL final then :p
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GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
May 01 2015 12:29 GMT
#832
On May 01 2015 21:27 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2015 21:26 OtherWorld wrote:
lol guys, Dream is good at preparing and winning from good preparation. FlaSh won't even stand a chachance.

I am not sure. Dream is amazing at TvZ, but his other two match-ups aren't on that level.

`Why does no one admit Dream has good TvP?
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
May 01 2015 12:29 GMT
#833
On May 01 2015 21:29 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2015 21:27 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On May 01 2015 21:26 OtherWorld wrote:
lol guys, Dream is good at preparing and winning from good preparation. FlaSh won't even stand a chachance.

I am not sure. Dream is amazing at TvZ, but his other two match-ups aren't on that level.

`Why does no one admit Dream has good TvP?

Being good =/= being Godlike.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
May 01 2015 12:29 GMT
#834
On May 01 2015 21:25 ThomasjServo wrote:
You know I kind of miss the token foreigner in the GSL. I hope a pro returns to practice in Korea and plays for LotV.

Yes! I so want to see again things like Bogus destroying Stephano with 32 SCVs 6 rax MM SCV all-in. I still can't stop laughing when thinking about it. That game alone would have won my heart if serving justice against HyuN with his 11/11 on Abyssal City had not already done it before
Alucen-Will-
Profile Joined October 2014
United States4054 Posts
May 01 2015 12:29 GMT
#835
On May 01 2015 21:28 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2015 21:27 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On May 01 2015 21:26 Ej_ wrote:
On May 01 2015 21:23 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On May 01 2015 21:23 Ej_ wrote:
On May 01 2015 21:23 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On May 01 2015 21:22 GumBa wrote:
On May 01 2015 21:21 Elentos wrote:
On May 01 2015 21:20 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On May 01 2015 21:19 Elentos wrote:
[quote]
He hasn't played a broadcasted TvT series (longer than bo1) since Homestory Cup I think. He rekt Cure in the KeSPA Cup qualifiers though and Cure TvT > Dream TvT.


Games weren't broadcast though. Nobody knows what happened.

He won though. And Cure is really good at TvT. Nevermind that Flash's TvT all-time is at nearly 70% while Dream is below 50%. Dream's good enough in TvT, don't get me wrong, but he's not top tier.

Beating Cure recently is no massive feat of strength though.



.....He is 9-3 in Proleague and dropped out of individual leagues to Rain and Soulkey...

you saw the series vs Soulkey?


Yes..3 long macro games...

2 macro games where Cure didn't split and 1 game where SK didn't even bother and just rolled over Cure with banes


I hate that Cure has a reputation for not microing. He actually has exceptional micro in most of his TvZ Bio/mine games against Zerg. It's like 2 games where he didn't split and he forever has a reputation of not microing his marines

I have never heard of his no micro rep lol where do you hear that?


He played snute in the IEM WC qualifier with no sleep and forgot to micro his marines against a bunch of banelings.
He won the series 3-0
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
May 01 2015 12:30 GMT
#836
On May 01 2015 21:27 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2015 21:26 OtherWorld wrote:
lol guys, Dream is good at preparing and winning from good preparation. FlaSh won't even stand a chachance.

His TvT prep is 2base doom drop or die though. And I say this as a MASSIVE Dream fan.

This is true, the only reason he won the first SSL series against Maru is because Maru didn't prepare any builds and just did the same thing every game (don't even remember why).
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
May 01 2015 12:30 GMT
#837
On May 01 2015 21:29 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2015 21:25 ThomasjServo wrote:
You know I kind of miss the token foreigner in the GSL. I hope a pro returns to practice in Korea and plays for LotV.

Yes! I so want to see again things like Bogus destroying Stephano with 32 SCVs 6 rax MM SCV all-in. I still can't stop laughing when thinking about it. That game alone would have won my heart if serving justice against HyuN with his 11/11 on Abyssal City had not already done it before

One of my fav moments in sc2 for me as well. Bogus tearing Stephano apart.
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
May 01 2015 12:30 GMT
#838
On May 01 2015 21:27 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2015 21:26 OtherWorld wrote:
lol guys, Dream is good at preparing and winning from good preparation. FlaSh won't even stand a chachance.

You have Flash in your signature but never say anything good about him, I am confuzzled. Fo shizzle.

I say good things about FlaSh, but you have to admit that he didn't give many occasions to say good things about him lately d: (but I still maintain that FlaSh over Stats would have been the better choice vs JAGW)
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HellHound
Profile Joined September 2014
Bulgaria5962 Posts
May 01 2015 12:30 GMT
#839
On May 01 2015 21:28 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2015 21:26 OtherWorld wrote:
lol guys, Dream is good at preparing and winning from good preparation. FlaSh won't even stand a chachance.


Must've slacked in that SSL final then :p

Unlike Maru who never prepares well at all.
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
May 01 2015 12:30 GMT
#840
On May 01 2015 21:29 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2015 21:25 ThomasjServo wrote:
You know I kind of miss the token foreigner in the GSL. I hope a pro returns to practice in Korea and plays for LotV.

Yes! I so want to see again things like Bogus destroying Stephano with 32 SCVs 6 rax MM SCV all-in. I still can't stop laughing when thinking about it. That game alone would have won my heart if serving justice against HyuN with his 11/11 on Abyssal City had not already done it before

dude that game on Whirlwind was hilarious as shit, the best foreigner dying to a build straight from Gold league
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