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On May 01 2015 20:45 Video2000 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2015 20:44 Alchemik wrote:On May 01 2015 20:43 Video2000 wrote:On May 01 2015 20:38 RHoudini wrote:On May 01 2015 20:33 Video2000 wrote:On May 01 2015 20:31 RHoudini wrote:On May 01 2015 20:29 Video2000 wrote:
soO has a good chance to win this game.. casters are way too biased imo Really? Well yes, before roach production he was up +15 supply and 8-9 workers on 2base v 2base.. He lost 8 drones to what, 6-8 hellions + reapers and they are talking about how he tilts etc.. Thats a fine trade with 4 queens and infinite larvae .... Anyway he messed up so w/e I understand that you just look at the supply to decide who is ahead in a TvZ game. That's not really how it works. Could you try explaining yourself? You just keep on telling people that they are wrong because you don't think supply matters. I get it  I just don't think its irrelevant and when he has a better economy and is able to take a 3rd base it can be kinda annoying to hear that he is just tilted and out of the game etc.. That's what i would expect from Tastosis, not SPL crew. he wasn't up in economy, he was doing an all-in that is SUPPOSED to be up in supply, he lost workers for nothing, he had roaches and his opponent had tanks The point was that he was up in supply before roaching. I guess LR is not the place though
by how much? and at what point?
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On May 01 2015 20:41 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2015 20:39 TheDwf wrote:On May 01 2015 20:37 juvenal wrote:Before the game 1 is officially declared the closest game ever, I'd like to do justice to this: ![[image loading]](http://sclegacy.com/features/pp/pp04/images/pp04_race.jpg) I rise from the dead, I live again. More Starcraft please I don't think I have the replay of this one.
A fellow Elder of mine deleted all his replays a few years ago. I told him back then: you're a fool, you will regret it. He started playing again recently and now craves for all his replays. I told him: I told you so.
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United Kingdom31935 Posts
Stim? You are doing it wrong Fanta
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On May 01 2015 20:46 Alchemik wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2015 20:45 Video2000 wrote:On May 01 2015 20:44 Alchemik wrote:On May 01 2015 20:43 Video2000 wrote:On May 01 2015 20:38 RHoudini wrote:On May 01 2015 20:33 Video2000 wrote:On May 01 2015 20:31 RHoudini wrote:On May 01 2015 20:29 Video2000 wrote:
soO has a good chance to win this game.. casters are way too biased imo Really? Well yes, before roach production he was up +15 supply and 8-9 workers on 2base v 2base.. He lost 8 drones to what, 6-8 hellions + reapers and they are talking about how he tilts etc.. Thats a fine trade with 4 queens and infinite larvae .... Anyway he messed up so w/e I understand that you just look at the supply to decide who is ahead in a TvZ game. That's not really how it works. Could you try explaining yourself? You just keep on telling people that they are wrong because you don't think supply matters. I get it I just don't think its irrelevant and when he has a better economy and is able to take a 3rd base it can be kinda annoying to hear that he is just tilted and out of the game etc.. That's what i would expect from Tastosis, not SPL crew. he wasn't up in economy, he was doing an all-in that is SUPPOSED to be up in supply, he lost workers for nothing, he had roaches and his opponent had tanks The point was that he was up in supply before roaching. I guess LR is not the place though by how much? and at what point?
I thought +15, another guy wrote 20.
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On May 01 2015 20:46 GumBa wrote:
Stim? You are doing it wrong Fanta
It's Merry, he's perfectly right
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On May 01 2015 20:43 Muxtar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2015 20:41 Wildmoon wrote:On May 01 2015 20:37 Muxtar wrote:
So Blizzard nerfed swarmhosts in order not to see stalemate games. I don't know how else to name first ~40 min of game 1 SoO-Fantasy if not pure stalemate. Turtling mech haven't go anywhere, he is still here and brings us soooooo 'interesting' games. Zerg just can't win vs. mech except last night WCS endless switches in Petraeus vs. Morrow. But you have to have two times more bases and income than mech in that case.
Great job Blizzard! Zerg beat mech=terran is bad. Zerg beaten by mech=mech being unbeatable. OK. Not at all. Although old SH were boring, there was a balance and equal chances to win on both sides. Not it is just auto-win if terran allowed to go on 4th base.
Far from auto-win. The first game of Fantasy and soO kinda proves that that even if soO lost. Fantasy's position was broken a few times and he would have lost if not for the basetrade.
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Elentos
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On May 01 2015 20:46 GumBa wrote:
Stim? You are doing it wrong Fanta
Scared of the roach bust.
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The solution to anything for Zerg is easy. It's PiG Roach Drop Nydus. It's ALWAYS PiG Roach Drop Nydus
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On May 01 2015 20:47 TheDwf wrote:It's Merry, he's perfectly right
he should bio all games for the sake of LB
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ALLEYCAT BLUES51710 Posts
On May 01 2015 20:46 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2015 20:41 BLinD-RawR wrote:On May 01 2015 20:39 TheDwf wrote:On May 01 2015 20:37 juvenal wrote:Before the game 1 is officially declared the closest game ever, I'd like to do justice to this: I rise from the dead, I live again. More Starcraft please I don't think I have the replay of this one. A fellow Elder of mine deleted all his replays a few years ago. I told him back then: you're a fool, you will regret it. He started playing again recently and now craves for all his replays. I told him: I told you so.
well not like I wanted to delete them, just forgot to back them up.
But I still have a shit ton of VODs though.
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United Kingdom31935 Posts
On May 01 2015 20:47 TheDwf wrote:It's Merry, he's perfectly right
NO. Mech is op man didnt you get the memo
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On May 01 2015 20:47 Elentos wrote:Scared of the roach bust.
Yep. The all knowing Elentos is here
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On May 01 2015 20:47 showstealer1829 wrote:
The solution to anything for Zerg is easy. It's PiG Roach Drop Nydus. It's ALWAYS PiG Roach Drop Nydus
you've just opened a can of worms
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On May 01 2015 20:48 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2015 20:46 TheDwf wrote:On May 01 2015 20:41 BLinD-RawR wrote:On May 01 2015 20:39 TheDwf wrote:On May 01 2015 20:37 juvenal wrote:Before the game 1 is officially declared the closest game ever, I'd like to do justice to this: I rise from the dead, I live again. More Starcraft please I don't think I have the replay of this one. A fellow Elder of mine deleted all his replays a few years ago. I told him back then: you're a fool, you will regret it. He started playing again recently and now craves for all his replays. I told him: I told you so. well not like I wanted to delete them, just forgot to back them up.
Yeah, same. /:
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Team Salmon seem to not know that a lot of players have been successful with mech on this map..
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On May 01 2015 20:47 showstealer1829 wrote:
The solution to anything for Zerg is easy. It's PiG Roach Drop Nydus. It's ALWAYS PiG Roach Drop Nydus
are you my second account
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On May 01 2015 20:48 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2015 20:47 TheDwf wrote:On May 01 2015 20:46 GumBa wrote:
Stim? You are doing it wrong Fanta It's Merry, he's perfectly right NO. Mech is op man didnt you get the memo
Sorry, I'm a slow learner
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soo was up 100 supply and like 4 bases. I don't think every zerg loses from that position......... ie it's not broken, he fell apart
not to mention fantasy's damage early game dictating how comfortably he was able to survive to the 4+ bases that made him so strong
you can't just look at once piece of the game and decide it's unwinnable
otherwise I guess there's no reason for any T to be losing to Z on a bunch of the maps. but I'm willing to bet we'll see mech lose plenty across the various tournaments and skill levels.
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