On May 01 2015 20:01 Alucen-Will- wrote: Unfortunately Life was the only zerg who really understands how to break mech armies. That was back when SH were relevant though.
I'm not sure how you break this mech composition now
What? Life is clueless against mech, like Solar. Completely clueless.
I think you've mixed players...
SoO and Soulkey were gods against mech.
Should I link you other 10 games where Life lost in most stupid way? Like recent game against Maru? Losing almost every game against Bbyong in Proleague? Finals against ForGG? I mean, he lost to ForGG(not saying ForGG is bad, but I don't rate him nowhere near top Korean Terrans). Having one good game doesn't mean crap after so many fails and yeah he probably learned thing or two after so many losses to mech.
Are you serious? He tried everything to break maru; pulling tanks out of position, tech switching etc. The game vs maru was after the SH nerf where no Zerg has any idea how to break mech beyond all-inning with roaches or 2 hatch muta builds..
Good, now address finals against ForGG and majority of his games against Bbyong.
On May 01 2015 20:10 Zealously wrote:
On May 01 2015 20:08 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On May 01 2015 20:06 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On May 01 2015 20:04 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On May 01 2015 20:01 Alucen-Will- wrote: Unfortunately Life was the only zerg who really understands how to break mech armies. That was back when SH were relevant though.
I'm not sure how you break this mech composition now
What? Life is clueless against mech, like Solar. Completely clueless.
Should I link you other 10 games where Life lost in most stupid way? Like recent game against Maru? Losing almost every game against Bbyong in Proleague? Finals against ForGG? I mean, he lost to ForGG(not saying ForGG is bad, but I don't rate him nowhere near top Korean Terrans). Having one good game doesn't mean crap after so many fails and yeah he probably learned thing or two after so many losses to mech.
Yes, please do link the last 10 stupid and clueless fails he made. I'll wait!
Oh please, you were also the one that was saying how he isn't very good against mech.
Yes. I did not claim that he is stupid and clueless in the match-up and offer to link 10 other games (of which three losses to Bbyong were to well-refined hellbat/banshee pushes, not lategame mech) of the same variety, however. So please follow through with that.
So, playing mega-greedy against player that is known for his Hellbat and Banshees pushes isn't stupid? Compared to Soulkey and SoO, he definitely looked clueless to me against Mech in most of his games apart from last few maybe.
I know that you like Life, I like him too but if you don't think that he had awful ZvMech then you are truly biased.
The entire point was that he recently learned how to play vs mech well while soO hasn't won a game vs mech this year <.<
No, it wasn't if you were reading the whole conversation.
"Unfortunately Life was the only zerg who really understands how to break mech armies. That was back when SH were relevant though." < Which simply isn't true.
in his last games before the SH nerf, he WAS great vs mech, one of the best, and that's the whole point
On May 01 2015 20:01 Alucen-Will- wrote: Unfortunately Life was the only zerg who really understands how to break mech armies. That was back when SH were relevant though.
I'm not sure how you break this mech composition now
What? Life is clueless against mech, like Solar. Completely clueless.
Should I link you other 10 games where Life lost in most stupid way? Like recent game against Maru? Losing almost every game against Bbyong in Proleague? Finals against ForGG? I mean, he lost to ForGG(not saying ForGG is bad, but I don't rate him nowhere near top Korean Terrans). Having one good game doesn't mean crap after so many fails and yeah he probably learned thing or two after so many losses to mech.
Are you serious? He tried everything to break maru; pulling tanks out of position, tech switching etc. The game vs maru was after the SH nerf where no Zerg has any idea how to break mech beyond all-inning with roaches or 2 hatch muta builds..
Good, now address finals against ForGG and majority of his games against Bbyong.
On May 01 2015 20:10 Zealously wrote:
On May 01 2015 20:08 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On May 01 2015 20:06 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On May 01 2015 20:04 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On May 01 2015 20:01 Alucen-Will- wrote: Unfortunately Life was the only zerg who really understands how to break mech armies. That was back when SH were relevant though.
I'm not sure how you break this mech composition now
What? Life is clueless against mech, like Solar. Completely clueless.
Should I link you other 10 games where Life lost in most stupid way? Like recent game against Maru? Losing almost every game against Bbyong in Proleague? Finals against ForGG? I mean, he lost to ForGG(not saying ForGG is bad, but I don't rate him nowhere near top Korean Terrans). Having one good game doesn't mean crap after so many fails and yeah he probably learned thing or two after so many losses to mech.
Yes, please do link the last 10 stupid and clueless fails he made. I'll wait!
Oh please, you were also the one that was saying how he isn't very good against mech.
Yes. I did not claim that he is stupid and clueless in the match-up and offer to link 10 other games (of which three losses to Bbyong were to well-refined hellbat/banshee pushes, not lategame mech) of the same variety, however. So please follow through with that.
So, playing mega-greedy against player that is known for his Hellbat and Banshees pushes isn't stupid? Compared to Soulkey and SoO, he definitely looked clueless to me against Mech in most of his games apart from last few maybe.
I know that you like Life, I like him too but if you don't think that he had awful ZvMech then you are truly biased.
You're not wrong in saying that he has struggled with mech in the past, but you are both overstating that weakness and the frequency of his disappointing losses, and the details of his games vs Bbyong. He did not play "mega-greedy", and he was not as outclassed in all three games. Further, I don't think Soulkey has looked that stellar vs mech recently.
So really, please link his last 10 losses of the stupid variety so we can judge how weak he really has been recently.
Should I link you other 10 games where Life lost in most stupid way? Like recent game against Maru? Losing almost every game against Bbyong in Proleague? Finals against ForGG? I mean, he lost to ForGG(not saying ForGG is bad, but I don't rate him nowhere near top Korean Terrans). Having one good game doesn't mean crap after so many fails and yeah he probably learned thing or two after so many losses to mech.
Are you serious? He tried everything to break maru; pulling tanks out of position, tech switching etc. The game vs maru was after the SH nerf where no Zerg has any idea how to break mech beyond all-inning with roaches or 2 hatch muta builds..
Good, now address finals against ForGG and majority of his games against Bbyong.
On May 01 2015 20:10 Zealously wrote:
On May 01 2015 20:08 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On May 01 2015 20:06 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On May 01 2015 20:04 Ramiz1989 wrote: [quote] What? Life is clueless against mech, like Solar. Completely clueless.
Should I link you other 10 games where Life lost in most stupid way? Like recent game against Maru? Losing almost every game against Bbyong in Proleague? Finals against ForGG? I mean, he lost to ForGG(not saying ForGG is bad, but I don't rate him nowhere near top Korean Terrans). Having one good game doesn't mean crap after so many fails and yeah he probably learned thing or two after so many losses to mech.
Yes, please do link the last 10 stupid and clueless fails he made. I'll wait!
Oh please, you were also the one that was saying how he isn't very good against mech.
Yes. I did not claim that he is stupid and clueless in the match-up and offer to link 10 other games (of which three losses to Bbyong were to well-refined hellbat/banshee pushes, not lategame mech) of the same variety, however. So please follow through with that.
So, playing mega-greedy against player that is known for his Hellbat and Banshees pushes isn't stupid? Compared to Soulkey and SoO, he definitely looked clueless to me against Mech in most of his games apart from last few maybe.
I know that you like Life, I like him too but if you don't think that he had awful ZvMech then you are truly biased.
The entire point was that he recently learned how to play vs mech well while soO hasn't won a game vs mech this year <.<
No, it wasn't if you were reading the whole conversation.
"Unfortunately Life was the only zerg who really understands how to break mech armies. That was back when SH were relevant though." < Which simply isn't true.
in his last games before the SH nerf, he WAS great vs mech, one of the best, and that's the whole point
Oh I guess his 2 games before SH nerf were proving that he was the best?
Ok this is taking too long anyway, I will stop arguing about it.
On May 01 2015 20:01 Alucen-Will- wrote: Unfortunately Life was the only zerg who really understands how to break mech armies. That was back when SH were relevant though.
I'm not sure how you break this mech composition now
What? Life is clueless against mech, like Solar. Completely clueless.
Should I link you other 10 games where Life lost in most stupid way? Like recent game against Maru? Losing almost every game against Bbyong in Proleague? Finals against ForGG? I mean, he lost to ForGG(not saying ForGG is bad, but I don't rate him nowhere near top Korean Terrans). Having one good game doesn't mean crap after so many fails and yeah he probably learned thing or two after so many losses to mech.
Are you serious? He tried everything to break maru; pulling tanks out of position, tech switching etc. The game vs maru was after the SH nerf where no Zerg has any idea how to break mech beyond all-inning with roaches or 2 hatch muta builds..
Good, now address finals against ForGG and majority of his games against Bbyong.
On May 01 2015 20:10 Zealously wrote:
On May 01 2015 20:08 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On May 01 2015 20:06 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On May 01 2015 20:04 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On May 01 2015 20:01 Alucen-Will- wrote: Unfortunately Life was the only zerg who really understands how to break mech armies. That was back when SH were relevant though.
I'm not sure how you break this mech composition now
What? Life is clueless against mech, like Solar. Completely clueless.
Should I link you other 10 games where Life lost in most stupid way? Like recent game against Maru? Losing almost every game against Bbyong in Proleague? Finals against ForGG? I mean, he lost to ForGG(not saying ForGG is bad, but I don't rate him nowhere near top Korean Terrans). Having one good game doesn't mean crap after so many fails and yeah he probably learned thing or two after so many losses to mech.
Yes, please do link the last 10 stupid and clueless fails he made. I'll wait!
Oh please, you were also the one that was saying how he isn't very good against mech.
Yes. I did not claim that he is stupid and clueless in the match-up and offer to link 10 other games (of which three losses to Bbyong were to well-refined hellbat/banshee pushes, not lategame mech) of the same variety, however. So please follow through with that.
So, playing mega-greedy against player that is known for his Hellbat and Banshees pushes isn't stupid? Compared to Soulkey and SoO, he definitely looked clueless to me against Mech in most of his games apart from last few maybe.
I know that you like Life, I like him too but if you don't think that he had awful ZvMech then you are truly biased.
You're not wrong in saying that he has struggled with mech in the past, but you are both overstating that weakness and the frequency of his disappointing losses, and the details of his games vs Bbyong. He did not play "mega-greedy", and he was not as outclassed in all three games. Further, I don't think Soulkey has looked that stellar vs mech recently.
So really, please link his last 10 losses of the stupid variety so we can judge how weak he really has been recently.
I don't often agree with zealousy on these forums, but he is correct.
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