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On April 20 2015 20:46 Wintex wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2015 20:45 OtherWorld wrote:On April 20 2015 20:44 KelsierSC wrote:On April 20 2015 20:41 Wintex wrote:On April 20 2015 20:38 KelsierSC wrote:On April 20 2015 20:36 ZAiNs wrote:On April 20 2015 20:34 KelsierSC wrote:On April 20 2015 20:32 dazed25 wrote:On April 20 2015 20:30 KelsierSC wrote:On April 20 2015 20:29 Zealously wrote:
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It might shock you, but you got your "I don't like Protoss"-point across the first time you brought it up. You don't need to keep harping it. i'm talking about the format but ok "some protoss" pls why so disrespectful towards statswa. i'd think you wouldn't be forgetting his name anytime soon. I don't really care I just think the format is terrible Luckily for you only 3 out of like a million games per round are allkill :D. but it's the playoffs which are the most important matches and why change 3 of the games if you have " a million games" in the tournament. It feels like having the regular NFL season and then when it gets to the playoffs changing it so they play soccer or something and saying well the best team at NFL is X because they won at soccer. It doesn't make any sense to me Your analogy is so dramatically more different than Proleague to All Kill format that people should ignore your post`s content. It's good to change the formats because it creates a chance for teams to prove their range as well as depth, and it changes the pace for the spectators and differentiates the playoffs from the round. how does it display depth when you only need one good player? You don't need only one good players, because the teams you face have good players too. This wasn't Stats all-killing Pet/Curious/TerrOr/Horror. This was Stats all-killing Dark/Sorry/INno/Classic ffs. that was unnecessarily mean towards curious 
Sorry, I thought of Pet and Curious came along naturally T_T
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On April 20 2015 20:45 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2015 20:44 KelsierSC wrote:On April 20 2015 20:41 Wintex wrote:On April 20 2015 20:38 KelsierSC wrote:On April 20 2015 20:36 ZAiNs wrote:On April 20 2015 20:34 KelsierSC wrote:On April 20 2015 20:32 dazed25 wrote:On April 20 2015 20:30 KelsierSC wrote:On April 20 2015 20:29 Zealously wrote:On April 20 2015 20:25 KelsierSC wrote:
wish they would go back to the pro league format.
watching some protoss win some games in a row just isn't fun.
It might shock you, but you got your "I don't like Protoss"-point across the first time you brought it up. You don't need to keep harping it. i'm talking about the format but ok "some protoss" pls why so disrespectful towards statswa. i'd think you wouldn't be forgetting his name anytime soon. I don't really care I just think the format is terrible Luckily for you only 3 out of like a million games per round are allkill :D. but it's the playoffs which are the most important matches and why change 3 of the games if you have " a million games" in the tournament. It feels like having the regular NFL season and then when it gets to the playoffs changing it so they play soccer or something and saying well the best team at NFL is X because they won at soccer. It doesn't make any sense to me Your analogy is so dramatically more different than Proleague to All Kill format that people should ignore your post`s content. It's good to change the formats because it creates a chance for teams to prove their range as well as depth, and it changes the pace for the spectators and differentiates the playoffs from the round. how does it display depth when you only need one good player? You don't need only one good players, because the teams you face have good players too. This wasn't Stats all-killing Pet/Curious/TerrOr/Horror. This was Stats all-killing Dark/Sorry/ INno/Classic ffs.
excuse me?
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On April 20 2015 20:47 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2015 20:45 OtherWorld wrote:On April 20 2015 20:44 KelsierSC wrote:On April 20 2015 20:41 Wintex wrote:On April 20 2015 20:38 KelsierSC wrote:On April 20 2015 20:36 ZAiNs wrote:On April 20 2015 20:34 KelsierSC wrote:On April 20 2015 20:32 dazed25 wrote:On April 20 2015 20:30 KelsierSC wrote:On April 20 2015 20:29 Zealously wrote:
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It might shock you, but you got your "I don't like Protoss"-point across the first time you brought it up. You don't need to keep harping it. i'm talking about the format but ok "some protoss" pls why so disrespectful towards statswa. i'd think you wouldn't be forgetting his name anytime soon. I don't really care I just think the format is terrible Luckily for you only 3 out of like a million games per round are allkill :D. but it's the playoffs which are the most important matches and why change 3 of the games if you have " a million games" in the tournament. It feels like having the regular NFL season and then when it gets to the playoffs changing it so they play soccer or something and saying well the best team at NFL is X because they won at soccer. It doesn't make any sense to me Your analogy is so dramatically more different than Proleague to All Kill format that people should ignore your post`s content. It's good to change the formats because it creates a chance for teams to prove their range as well as depth, and it changes the pace for the spectators and differentiates the playoffs from the round. how does it display depth when you only need one good player? You don't need only one good players, because the teams you face have good players too. This wasn't Stats all-killing Pet/Curious/TerrOr/Horror. This was Stats all-killing Dark/Sorry/INno/Classic ffs. I like your point but your 4 "baddies" aren't even on the same team <.<
I know, I was just searching for 4 pretty bad players d:
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On April 20 2015 20:44 Wintex wrote:
Ok guys let`s just stop discussing with Kelsier since he won't stop repeating the same post over and over again. We are going in circles and should do something productive instead.
Opinions are and will remain opinions.
Yep and as far as I can tell most people prefer the all kill format. It makes for more exciting and gladiatorial style games. Borrowing his playoffs analogy: playoffs are the time when the star players shine the brightest and make the biggest plays. Makes sense to have a format that allows for that. It would be silly if the star players (best players in the world tier) on one team stomp but the bench and b-teamers from the other team still pull out a win
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On April 20 2015 20:47 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2015 20:45 OtherWorld wrote:On April 20 2015 20:44 KelsierSC wrote:On April 20 2015 20:41 Wintex wrote:On April 20 2015 20:38 KelsierSC wrote:On April 20 2015 20:36 ZAiNs wrote:On April 20 2015 20:34 KelsierSC wrote:On April 20 2015 20:32 dazed25 wrote:On April 20 2015 20:30 KelsierSC wrote:On April 20 2015 20:29 Zealously wrote:
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It might shock you, but you got your "I don't like Protoss"-point across the first time you brought it up. You don't need to keep harping it. i'm talking about the format but ok "some protoss" pls why so disrespectful towards statswa. i'd think you wouldn't be forgetting his name anytime soon. I don't really care I just think the format is terrible Luckily for you only 3 out of like a million games per round are allkill :D. but it's the playoffs which are the most important matches and why change 3 of the games if you have " a million games" in the tournament. It feels like having the regular NFL season and then when it gets to the playoffs changing it so they play soccer or something and saying well the best team at NFL is X because they won at soccer. It doesn't make any sense to me Your analogy is so dramatically more different than Proleague to All Kill format that people should ignore your post`s content. It's good to change the formats because it creates a chance for teams to prove their range as well as depth, and it changes the pace for the spectators and differentiates the playoffs from the round. how does it display depth when you only need one good player? You don't need only one good players, because the teams you face have good players too. This wasn't Stats all-killing Pet/Curious/TerrOr/Horror. This was Stats all-killing Dark/Sorry/ Slumpo/Classic ffs. excuse me?
Better now? d:
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On April 20 2015 20:47 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2015 20:45 OtherWorld wrote:On April 20 2015 20:44 KelsierSC wrote:On April 20 2015 20:41 Wintex wrote:On April 20 2015 20:38 KelsierSC wrote:On April 20 2015 20:36 ZAiNs wrote:On April 20 2015 20:34 KelsierSC wrote:On April 20 2015 20:32 dazed25 wrote:On April 20 2015 20:30 KelsierSC wrote:On April 20 2015 20:29 Zealously wrote:
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It might shock you, but you got your "I don't like Protoss"-point across the first time you brought it up. You don't need to keep harping it. i'm talking about the format but ok "some protoss" pls why so disrespectful towards statswa. i'd think you wouldn't be forgetting his name anytime soon. I don't really care I just think the format is terrible Luckily for you only 3 out of like a million games per round are allkill :D. but it's the playoffs which are the most important matches and why change 3 of the games if you have " a million games" in the tournament. It feels like having the regular NFL season and then when it gets to the playoffs changing it so they play soccer or something and saying well the best team at NFL is X because they won at soccer. It doesn't make any sense to me Your analogy is so dramatically more different than Proleague to All Kill format that people should ignore your post`s content. It's good to change the formats because it creates a chance for teams to prove their range as well as depth, and it changes the pace for the spectators and differentiates the playoffs from the round. how does it display depth when you only need one good player? You don't need only one good players, because the teams you face have good players too. This wasn't Stats all-killing Pet/Curious/TerrOr/Horror. This was Stats all-killing Dark/Sorry/ INno/Classic ffs. excuse me?
Did Inno stole money from you or something?
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On April 20 2015 20:48 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2015 20:47 Elentos wrote:On April 20 2015 20:45 OtherWorld wrote:On April 20 2015 20:44 KelsierSC wrote:On April 20 2015 20:41 Wintex wrote:On April 20 2015 20:38 KelsierSC wrote:On April 20 2015 20:36 ZAiNs wrote:On April 20 2015 20:34 KelsierSC wrote:On April 20 2015 20:32 dazed25 wrote:On April 20 2015 20:30 KelsierSC wrote:
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i'm talking about the format but ok "some protoss" pls why so disrespectful towards statswa. i'd think you wouldn't be forgetting his name anytime soon. I don't really care I just think the format is terrible Luckily for you only 3 out of like a million games per round are allkill :D. but it's the playoffs which are the most important matches and why change 3 of the games if you have " a million games" in the tournament. It feels like having the regular NFL season and then when it gets to the playoffs changing it so they play soccer or something and saying well the best team at NFL is X because they won at soccer. It doesn't make any sense to me Your analogy is so dramatically more different than Proleague to All Kill format that people should ignore your post`s content. It's good to change the formats because it creates a chance for teams to prove their range as well as depth, and it changes the pace for the spectators and differentiates the playoffs from the round. how does it display depth when you only need one good player? You don't need only one good players, because the teams you face have good players too. This wasn't Stats all-killing Pet/Curious/TerrOr/Horror. This was Stats all-killing Dark/Sorry/INno/Classic ffs. I like your point but your 4 "baddies" aren't even on the same team <.< I know, I was just searching for 4 pretty bad players d:
pet managed to beat bbyong with a successful cheese and a decent follow up at least :D
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On April 20 2015 20:45 Wintex wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2015 20:44 KelsierSC wrote:On April 20 2015 20:41 Wintex wrote:On April 20 2015 20:38 KelsierSC wrote:On April 20 2015 20:36 ZAiNs wrote:On April 20 2015 20:34 KelsierSC wrote:On April 20 2015 20:32 dazed25 wrote:On April 20 2015 20:30 KelsierSC wrote:On April 20 2015 20:29 Zealously wrote:On April 20 2015 20:25 KelsierSC wrote:
wish they would go back to the pro league format.
watching some protoss win some games in a row just isn't fun.
It might shock you, but you got your "I don't like Protoss"-point across the first time you brought it up. You don't need to keep harping it. i'm talking about the format but ok "some protoss" pls why so disrespectful towards statswa. i'd think you wouldn't be forgetting his name anytime soon. I don't really care I just think the format is terrible Luckily for you only 3 out of like a million games per round are allkill :D. but it's the playoffs which are the most important matches and why change 3 of the games if you have " a million games" in the tournament. It feels like having the regular NFL season and then when it gets to the playoffs changing it so they play soccer or something and saying well the best team at NFL is X because they won at soccer. It doesn't make any sense to me Your analogy is so dramatically more different than Proleague to All Kill format that people should ignore your post`s content. It's good to change the formats because it creates a chance for teams to prove their range as well as depth, and it changes the pace for the spectators and differentiates the playoffs from the round. how does it display depth when you only need one good player? Because if a team doesn't know how to prepare one of 4 people for one matchup, there's a glaring hole in how they prepare for a match.
well it seems like sorry was meant to be the sniper for stats
I don't really see how you can make an argument for it showing depth when a team with many good players , as pointed out by some other poster, lost to one guy.
remember the early seasons of GSTL where MVP made it basically to a final because of DRG.
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On April 20 2015 20:46 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2015 20:44 Wintex wrote:
Ok guys let`s just stop discussing with Kelsier since he won't stop repeating the same post over and over again. We are going in circles and should do something productive instead.
Opinions are and will remain opinions. well i've put forward reasons why the all-kill format doesn't make sense here and also why the format is poor in general and your only argument is that i'm bitching about protoss so clearly you didn't want to have a discussion anyway
My first two posts directed at you mentioned race. The rest have not. Please look at the logs and reply to the arguments I've made about how the formats complement each other and create a change of pace for the viewers. It will make it easier for us both.
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Elentos
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On April 20 2015 20:48 Ragnarork wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2015 20:47 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2015 20:45 OtherWorld wrote:On April 20 2015 20:44 KelsierSC wrote:On April 20 2015 20:41 Wintex wrote:On April 20 2015 20:38 KelsierSC wrote:On April 20 2015 20:36 ZAiNs wrote:On April 20 2015 20:34 KelsierSC wrote:On April 20 2015 20:32 dazed25 wrote:On April 20 2015 20:30 KelsierSC wrote:
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i'm talking about the format but ok "some protoss" pls why so disrespectful towards statswa. i'd think you wouldn't be forgetting his name anytime soon. I don't really care I just think the format is terrible Luckily for you only 3 out of like a million games per round are allkill :D. but it's the playoffs which are the most important matches and why change 3 of the games if you have " a million games" in the tournament. It feels like having the regular NFL season and then when it gets to the playoffs changing it so they play soccer or something and saying well the best team at NFL is X because they won at soccer. It doesn't make any sense to me Your analogy is so dramatically more different than Proleague to All Kill format that people should ignore your post`s content. It's good to change the formats because it creates a chance for teams to prove their range as well as depth, and it changes the pace for the spectators and differentiates the playoffs from the round. how does it display depth when you only need one good player? You don't need only one good players, because the teams you face have good players too. This wasn't Stats all-killing Pet/Curious/TerrOr/Horror. This was Stats all-killing Dark/Sorry/ INno/Classic ffs. excuse me? Did Inno stole money from you or something?
He enjoys being a dick to his favourite player.
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guys can we stop arguing about slumps and formats and enjoy the beauty of Proleague and KT's morale and Stats' allkill and Zest's body?
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On April 20 2015 20:48 dazed25 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2015 20:44 Wintex wrote:
Ok guys let`s just stop discussing with Kelsier since he won't stop repeating the same post over and over again. We are going in circles and should do something productive instead.
Opinions are and will remain opinions. Yep and as far as I can tell most people prefer the all kill format. It makes for more exciting and gladiatorial style games. Borrowing his playoffs analogy: playoffs are the time when the star players shine the brightest and make the biggest plays. Makes sense to have a format that allows for that. It would be silly if the star players (best players in the world tier) on one team stomp but the bench and b-teamers still pull out a win
there is a way to allow for that, it's called the Ace match.
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On April 20 2015 20:49 Silvana wrote:
guys can we stop arguing about slumps and formats and enjoy the beauty of Proleague and KT's morale and Stats' allkill and Zest's body?
And Flash's glorious win :D
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On April 20 2015 20:46 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2015 20:45 Exstasy wrote:On April 20 2015 20:43 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2015 20:42 Exstasy wrote:On April 20 2015 20:39 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2015 20:37 Exstasy wrote:On April 20 2015 20:34 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2015 20:33 Exstasy wrote:On April 20 2015 20:31 OtherWorld wrote:On April 20 2015 20:30 GumBa wrote:
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Maru and INnoVation have allkilled in this very tournament Terran must be disgustingly OP if even SlumpoVation all-kills shit (; Slump Slump Slump Slump. No one is allowed to lose games, both sides should just win every game right? rofl I you think Innovation is not slumping with the way he has been playing since Iem then I dunno what to tell you. or it's a bullshit word used more to make forum dwellers feel better about themselves than it is to reasonably discuss a players form. Are you trolling. Pls don't tell me you are serious. INnoVation is playing bad since Iem no ifs no buts and that is defined as slump. And lol trying to make forum dweller feel better about themselves are you for real? I'm sorry Ms.Jackson I am for real. there is more to a players form than looking at a win/loss ratio. You can boil it down to that if you want but you're excluding a lot of information. I'm not exclusively talking about Inno here btw, someone loses and they go 'slump slump slump' as if that contributes anything to any discussion. You specifally call out a post talking about INnoVation though. Yeah I think it applies to Inno but I'm not exclusively talking about him. Form naturally ebbs and flows, It is stupid after some good form to then expect only that or spout slump slump. Nobody did that though. You just came out of nowhere insulted forum "dwellers".
For example, go to earlier pages of this thread and see the 'slump slump' comments about Flash. Flash would still trash 99% of sc2 players everytime but the fact that he has bad form is a testament to the skill level of the game, especially in Korea. but it's "Flash loses to Dark, derp slump slump".
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On April 20 2015 20:49 Silvana wrote:
guys can we stop arguing about slumps and formats and enjoy the beauty of Proleague and KT's morale and Stats' allkill and Zest's body?
Not everyone is happy about the "depthless-KT-that-just-won-because-they-have-one-good-player".
(And it's not even Flash, Zest, or Life!)
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Was there anyone complaining about the format last round?
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On April 20 2015 20:50 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2015 20:49 Silvana wrote:
guys can we stop arguing about slumps and formats and enjoy the beauty of Proleague and KT's morale and Stats' allkill and Zest's body? And Flash's glorious win :D
Statefarm assist of letting Stats play.
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On April 20 2015 20:48 Wintex wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2015 20:46 KelsierSC wrote:On April 20 2015 20:44 Wintex wrote:
Ok guys let`s just stop discussing with Kelsier since he won't stop repeating the same post over and over again. We are going in circles and should do something productive instead.
Opinions are and will remain opinions. well i've put forward reasons why the all-kill format doesn't make sense here and also why the format is poor in general and your only argument is that i'm bitching about protoss so clearly you didn't want to have a discussion anyway My first two posts directed at you mentioned race. The rest have not. Please look at the logs and reply to the arguments I've made about how the formats complement each other and create a change of pace for the viewers. It will make it easier for us both.
you haven't contributed anything particularly valuable that makes me want to read your posts again.
I disagree with you about the formats complementing eachother and i'm discussing that with people but if you want to just say "don't talk to him, i disagree with him" then you can be that kind of a person I guess
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Elentos
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On April 20 2015 20:50 rotta wrote:
Was there anyone complaining about the format last round?
Well SKT didn't play until the finals that round, you see.
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On April 20 2015 20:50 Exstasy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2015 20:46 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2015 20:45 Exstasy wrote:On April 20 2015 20:43 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2015 20:42 Exstasy wrote:On April 20 2015 20:39 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2015 20:37 Exstasy wrote:On April 20 2015 20:34 GumBa wrote:On April 20 2015 20:33 Exstasy wrote:On April 20 2015 20:31 OtherWorld wrote:
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Terran must be disgustingly OP if even SlumpoVation all-kills shit (; Slump Slump Slump Slump. No one is allowed to lose games, both sides should just win every game right? rofl I you think Innovation is not slumping with the way he has been playing since Iem then I dunno what to tell you. or it's a bullshit word used more to make forum dwellers feel better about themselves than it is to reasonably discuss a players form. Are you trolling. Pls don't tell me you are serious. INnoVation is playing bad since Iem no ifs no buts and that is defined as slump. And lol trying to make forum dweller feel better about themselves are you for real? I'm sorry Ms.Jackson I am for real. there is more to a players form than looking at a win/loss ratio. You can boil it down to that if you want but you're excluding a lot of information. I'm not exclusively talking about Inno here btw, someone loses and they go 'slump slump slump' as if that contributes anything to any discussion. You specifally call out a post talking about INnoVation though. Yeah I think it applies to Inno but I'm not exclusively talking about him. Form naturally ebbs and flows, It is stupid after some good form to then expect only that or spout slump slump. Nobody did that though. You just came out of nowhere insulted forum "dwellers". For example, go to earlier pages of this thread and see the 'slump slump' comments about Flash. Flash would still trash 99% of sc2 players everytime but the fact that he has bad form is a testament to the skill level of the game, especially in Korea. but it's "Flash loses to Dark, derp slump slump".
Flash is in not as much of a slump as he is stubborn in his play.
He thinks he can do as much with the small numbers of units he creates during games as he could in BW.
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