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thats not the point, zest currently has a abysmal ace match record to the point where it might be affecting his mind going into them, which is why I'm saying stats over flash and life because those two aren't doing so hot in PL, actually life would have made a great choice, being in the finals has no bearing on that.
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On March 23 2015 21:59 Vasoline73 wrote:
Eh. I know I'm a KT fan boy but we don't even often go to the ace match after going 0-2 (from my biased memory.) I think this result is solid given that. I would like to see some Stats for our 0-2 to ace match % (for the last couple of years lol.) Go KT!
I guess I edited and quoted that at the same time. Just need to blog and PM it now. #drunk  . Sorry mods. Fml.
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It's no big surprise that Maru wins on this map tbh.
TvP is also by far the worst matchup in sc2 atm, i hope Lotv will change it A LOT
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On March 23 2015 21:55 REyeM wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2015 21:53 Elentos wrote:On March 23 2015 21:51 TheDwf wrote:
Lol… How many more ace losses Zest has to suffer so the KT coach stops sending him every. single. god. damn. time? Zest crushed Trap. Maru being fielded as ace was unexpected since he wasn't in the original lineup. Flash and Life lost against players that could have been sent out as ace. So it's between Stats and Zest, and we have no proof Stats would have done better. Except the fact that hes doing much better than Zest these days
That's not proof he would have done any better against Maru. Not to mention that, as I said, Maru coming out was kinda unexpected, Rogue would have made just as much sense. If you can be 100% sure they'll send out Maru, it's more likely that Life would be picked as ace.
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On March 23 2015 21:55 REyeM wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2015 21:53 Elentos wrote:On March 23 2015 21:51 TheDwf wrote:
Lol… How many more ace losses Zest has to suffer so the KT coach stops sending him every. single. god. damn. time? Zest crushed Trap. Maru being fielded as ace was unexpected since he wasn't in the original lineup. Flash and Life lost against players that could have been sent out as ace. So it's between Stats and Zest, and we have no proof Stats would have done better. Except the fact that hes doing much better than Zest these days
Except for the fact that Stats was smashed pretty hard by Maru in SSL.
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50123 Posts
On March 23 2015 22:06 elwoodng wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2015 21:55 REyeM wrote:On March 23 2015 21:53 Elentos wrote:On March 23 2015 21:51 TheDwf wrote:
Lol… How many more ace losses Zest has to suffer so the KT coach stops sending him every. single. god. damn. time? Zest crushed Trap. Maru being fielded as ace was unexpected since he wasn't in the original lineup. Flash and Life lost against players that could have been sent out as ace. So it's between Stats and Zest, and we have no proof Stats would have done better. Except the fact that hes doing much better than Zest these days Except for the fact that Stats was smashed pretty hard by Maru in SSL.
there was no way to expect that maru would come out.
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On March 23 2015 22:01 BLinD-RawR wrote:
thats not the point, zest currently has a abysmal ace match record to the point where it might be affecting his mind going into them, which is why I'm saying stats over flash and life because those two aren't doing so hot in PL, actually life would have made a great choice, being in the finals has no bearing on that.
I actually don't think it affects his mind at all tbh. I think Zest's biggest strength is in fact his mental stability.
PvT is just not his best matchup, add the map to that AND that he has to play vs Maru on it.
But yeah playing other players might be a good change in general, Zest is kinda too predictable at this point
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On March 23 2015 22:09 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2015 22:06 elwoodng wrote:On March 23 2015 21:55 REyeM wrote:On March 23 2015 21:53 Elentos wrote:On March 23 2015 21:51 TheDwf wrote:
Lol… How many more ace losses Zest has to suffer so the KT coach stops sending him every. single. god. damn. time? Zest crushed Trap. Maru being fielded as ace was unexpected since he wasn't in the original lineup. Flash and Life lost against players that could have been sent out as ace. So it's between Stats and Zest, and we have no proof Stats would have done better. Except the fact that hes doing much better than Zest these days Except for the fact that Stats was smashed pretty hard by Maru in SSL. there was no way to expect that maru would come out.
I respectfully disagree. KT's coach should have definitely account Maru for ace. I know Maru wasn't on the lineup and Jin Air does rotate their ace frequently, but it would be naive to not account for Maru.
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On March 23 2015 22:15 elwoodng wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2015 22:09 BLinD-RawR wrote:On March 23 2015 22:06 elwoodng wrote:On March 23 2015 21:55 REyeM wrote:On March 23 2015 21:53 Elentos wrote:On March 23 2015 21:51 TheDwf wrote:
Lol… How many more ace losses Zest has to suffer so the KT coach stops sending him every. single. god. damn. time? Zest crushed Trap. Maru being fielded as ace was unexpected since he wasn't in the original lineup. Flash and Life lost against players that could have been sent out as ace. So it's between Stats and Zest, and we have no proof Stats would have done better. Except the fact that hes doing much better than Zest these days Except for the fact that Stats was smashed pretty hard by Maru in SSL. there was no way to expect that maru would come out. I respectfully disagree. KT's coach should have definitely account Maru for ace. I know Maru wasn't on the lineup and Jin Air does rotate their ace frequently, but it would be naive to not account for Maru.
Well Ryu Won is no Coach Park, so yeah. I guess it's Kang Doh Gyung who takes the decisions though?
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So now KT has lost against SKT, JAGW and CJ. They have to win all other matches to have a shot at the round 2 playoffs, and they have to do well throughout the rest of the year to have a shot at the final playoffs. It's about time to start winning, guys.
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50123 Posts
On March 23 2015 22:15 elwoodng wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2015 22:09 BLinD-RawR wrote:On March 23 2015 22:06 elwoodng wrote:On March 23 2015 21:55 REyeM wrote:On March 23 2015 21:53 Elentos wrote:On March 23 2015 21:51 TheDwf wrote:
Lol… How many more ace losses Zest has to suffer so the KT coach stops sending him every. single. god. damn. time? Zest crushed Trap. Maru being fielded as ace was unexpected since he wasn't in the original lineup. Flash and Life lost against players that could have been sent out as ace. So it's between Stats and Zest, and we have no proof Stats would have done better. Except the fact that hes doing much better than Zest these days Except for the fact that Stats was smashed pretty hard by Maru in SSL. there was no way to expect that maru would come out. I respectfully disagree. KT's coach should have definitely account Maru for ace. I know Maru wasn't on the lineup and Jin Air does rotate their ace frequently, but it would be naive to not account for Maru.
on the other hand it would have been a bit too obvious for jin air to assume that zest was gonna come out.
On March 23 2015 22:16 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2015 22:15 elwoodng wrote:On March 23 2015 22:09 BLinD-RawR wrote:On March 23 2015 22:06 elwoodng wrote:On March 23 2015 21:55 REyeM wrote:On March 23 2015 21:53 Elentos wrote:On March 23 2015 21:51 TheDwf wrote:
Lol… How many more ace losses Zest has to suffer so the KT coach stops sending him every. single. god. damn. time? Zest crushed Trap. Maru being fielded as ace was unexpected since he wasn't in the original lineup. Flash and Life lost against players that could have been sent out as ace. So it's between Stats and Zest, and we have no proof Stats would have done better. Except the fact that hes doing much better than Zest these days Except for the fact that Stats was smashed pretty hard by Maru in SSL. there was no way to expect that maru would come out. I respectfully disagree. KT's coach should have definitely account Maru for ace. I know Maru wasn't on the lineup and Jin Air does rotate their ace frequently, but it would be naive to not account for Maru. Well Ryu Won is no Coach Park, so yeah. I guess it's Kang Doh Gyung who takes the decisions though?
Coach Lee>>>>Coach Park
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On March 23 2015 22:17 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2015 22:15 elwoodng wrote:On March 23 2015 22:09 BLinD-RawR wrote:On March 23 2015 22:06 elwoodng wrote:On March 23 2015 21:55 REyeM wrote:On March 23 2015 21:53 Elentos wrote:On March 23 2015 21:51 TheDwf wrote:
Lol… How many more ace losses Zest has to suffer so the KT coach stops sending him every. single. god. damn. time? Zest crushed Trap. Maru being fielded as ace was unexpected since he wasn't in the original lineup. Flash and Life lost against players that could have been sent out as ace. So it's between Stats and Zest, and we have no proof Stats would have done better. Except the fact that hes doing much better than Zest these days Except for the fact that Stats was smashed pretty hard by Maru in SSL. there was no way to expect that maru would come out. I respectfully disagree. KT's coach should have definitely account Maru for ace. I know Maru wasn't on the lineup and Jin Air does rotate their ace frequently, but it would be naive to not account for Maru. on the other hand it would have been a bit too obvious for jin air to assume that zest was gonna come out. Show nested quote +On March 23 2015 22:16 OtherWorld wrote:On March 23 2015 22:15 elwoodng wrote:On March 23 2015 22:09 BLinD-RawR wrote:On March 23 2015 22:06 elwoodng wrote:On March 23 2015 21:55 REyeM wrote:On March 23 2015 21:53 Elentos wrote:On March 23 2015 21:51 TheDwf wrote:
Lol… How many more ace losses Zest has to suffer so the KT coach stops sending him every. single. god. damn. time? Zest crushed Trap. Maru being fielded as ace was unexpected since he wasn't in the original lineup. Flash and Life lost against players that could have been sent out as ace. So it's between Stats and Zest, and we have no proof Stats would have done better. Except the fact that hes doing much better than Zest these days Except for the fact that Stats was smashed pretty hard by Maru in SSL. there was no way to expect that maru would come out. I respectfully disagree. KT's coach should have definitely account Maru for ace. I know Maru wasn't on the lineup and Jin Air does rotate their ace frequently, but it would be naive to not account for Maru. Well Ryu Won is no Coach Park, so yeah. I guess it's Kang Doh Gyung who takes the decisions though? Coach Lee>>>>Coach Park
I didn't know a mere mortal >>>> a god >.>
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50123 Posts
On March 23 2015 22:20 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2015 22:17 BLinD-RawR wrote:On March 23 2015 22:15 elwoodng wrote:On March 23 2015 22:09 BLinD-RawR wrote:On March 23 2015 22:06 elwoodng wrote:On March 23 2015 21:55 REyeM wrote:On March 23 2015 21:53 Elentos wrote:On March 23 2015 21:51 TheDwf wrote:
Lol… How many more ace losses Zest has to suffer so the KT coach stops sending him every. single. god. damn. time? Zest crushed Trap. Maru being fielded as ace was unexpected since he wasn't in the original lineup. Flash and Life lost against players that could have been sent out as ace. So it's between Stats and Zest, and we have no proof Stats would have done better. Except the fact that hes doing much better than Zest these days Except for the fact that Stats was smashed pretty hard by Maru in SSL. there was no way to expect that maru would come out. I respectfully disagree. KT's coach should have definitely account Maru for ace. I know Maru wasn't on the lineup and Jin Air does rotate their ace frequently, but it would be naive to not account for Maru. on the other hand it would have been a bit too obvious for jin air to assume that zest was gonna come out. On March 23 2015 22:16 OtherWorld wrote:On March 23 2015 22:15 elwoodng wrote:On March 23 2015 22:09 BLinD-RawR wrote:On March 23 2015 22:06 elwoodng wrote:On March 23 2015 21:55 REyeM wrote:On March 23 2015 21:53 Elentos wrote:On March 23 2015 21:51 TheDwf wrote:
Lol… How many more ace losses Zest has to suffer so the KT coach stops sending him every. single. god. damn. time? Zest crushed Trap. Maru being fielded as ace was unexpected since he wasn't in the original lineup. Flash and Life lost against players that could have been sent out as ace. So it's between Stats and Zest, and we have no proof Stats would have done better. Except the fact that hes doing much better than Zest these days Except for the fact that Stats was smashed pretty hard by Maru in SSL. there was no way to expect that maru would come out. I respectfully disagree. KT's coach should have definitely account Maru for ace. I know Maru wasn't on the lineup and Jin Air does rotate their ace frequently, but it would be naive to not account for Maru. Well Ryu Won is no Coach Park, so yeah. I guess it's Kang Doh Gyung who takes the decisions though? Coach Lee>>>>Coach Park I didn't know a mere mortal >>>> a god >.>
do you even know who coach lee is?
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We've reached the point where I see KT having a hard time getting 3 wins against Samsung, ST-Y and MVP. Ugh.
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On March 23 2015 22:22 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2015 22:20 OtherWorld wrote:On March 23 2015 22:17 BLinD-RawR wrote:On March 23 2015 22:15 elwoodng wrote:On March 23 2015 22:09 BLinD-RawR wrote:On March 23 2015 22:06 elwoodng wrote:On March 23 2015 21:55 REyeM wrote:On March 23 2015 21:53 Elentos wrote:On March 23 2015 21:51 TheDwf wrote:
Lol… How many more ace losses Zest has to suffer so the KT coach stops sending him every. single. god. damn. time? Zest crushed Trap. Maru being fielded as ace was unexpected since he wasn't in the original lineup. Flash and Life lost against players that could have been sent out as ace. So it's between Stats and Zest, and we have no proof Stats would have done better. Except the fact that hes doing much better than Zest these days Except for the fact that Stats was smashed pretty hard by Maru in SSL. there was no way to expect that maru would come out. I respectfully disagree. KT's coach should have definitely account Maru for ace. I know Maru wasn't on the lineup and Jin Air does rotate their ace frequently, but it would be naive to not account for Maru. on the other hand it would have been a bit too obvious for jin air to assume that zest was gonna come out. On March 23 2015 22:16 OtherWorld wrote:On March 23 2015 22:15 elwoodng wrote:On March 23 2015 22:09 BLinD-RawR wrote:On March 23 2015 22:06 elwoodng wrote:On March 23 2015 21:55 REyeM wrote:On March 23 2015 21:53 Elentos wrote:On March 23 2015 21:51 TheDwf wrote:
Lol… How many more ace losses Zest has to suffer so the KT coach stops sending him every. single. god. damn. time? Zest crushed Trap. Maru being fielded as ace was unexpected since he wasn't in the original lineup. Flash and Life lost against players that could have been sent out as ace. So it's between Stats and Zest, and we have no proof Stats would have done better. Except the fact that hes doing much better than Zest these days Except for the fact that Stats was smashed pretty hard by Maru in SSL. there was no way to expect that maru would come out. I respectfully disagree. KT's coach should have definitely account Maru for ace. I know Maru wasn't on the lineup and Jin Air does rotate their ace frequently, but it would be naive to not account for Maru. Well Ryu Won is no Coach Park, so yeah. I guess it's Kang Doh Gyung who takes the decisions though? Coach Lee>>>>Coach Park I didn't know a mere mortal >>>> a god >.> do you even know who coach lee is?
iirc TSL had a coach named Lee, but I think the one you're talking about is probably a former KT coach?
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On March 23 2015 22:24 Elentos wrote:
We've reached the point where I see KT having a hard time getting 3 wins against Samsung, ST-Y and MVP. Ugh.
chin up, take it as it goes, thats the KT way.
On March 23 2015 22:26 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2015 22:22 BLinD-RawR wrote:On March 23 2015 22:20 OtherWorld wrote:On March 23 2015 22:17 BLinD-RawR wrote:On March 23 2015 22:15 elwoodng wrote:On March 23 2015 22:09 BLinD-RawR wrote:On March 23 2015 22:06 elwoodng wrote:On March 23 2015 21:55 REyeM wrote:On March 23 2015 21:53 Elentos wrote:On March 23 2015 21:51 TheDwf wrote:
Lol… How many more ace losses Zest has to suffer so the KT coach stops sending him every. single. god. damn. time? Zest crushed Trap. Maru being fielded as ace was unexpected since he wasn't in the original lineup. Flash and Life lost against players that could have been sent out as ace. So it's between Stats and Zest, and we have no proof Stats would have done better. Except the fact that hes doing much better than Zest these days Except for the fact that Stats was smashed pretty hard by Maru in SSL. there was no way to expect that maru would come out. I respectfully disagree. KT's coach should have definitely account Maru for ace. I know Maru wasn't on the lineup and Jin Air does rotate their ace frequently, but it would be naive to not account for Maru. on the other hand it would have been a bit too obvious for jin air to assume that zest was gonna come out. On March 23 2015 22:16 OtherWorld wrote:On March 23 2015 22:15 elwoodng wrote:On March 23 2015 22:09 BLinD-RawR wrote:On March 23 2015 22:06 elwoodng wrote:On March 23 2015 21:55 REyeM wrote:On March 23 2015 21:53 Elentos wrote:
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Zest crushed Trap. Maru being fielded as ace was unexpected since he wasn't in the original lineup. Flash and Life lost against players that could have been sent out as ace. So it's between Stats and Zest, and we have no proof Stats would have done better. Except the fact that hes doing much better than Zest these days Except for the fact that Stats was smashed pretty hard by Maru in SSL. there was no way to expect that maru would come out. I respectfully disagree. KT's coach should have definitely account Maru for ace. I know Maru wasn't on the lineup and Jin Air does rotate their ace frequently, but it would be naive to not account for Maru. Well Ryu Won is no Coach Park, so yeah. I guess it's Kang Doh Gyung who takes the decisions though? Coach Lee>>>>Coach Park I didn't know a mere mortal >>>> a god >.> do you even know who coach lee is? iirc TSL had a coach named Lee, but I think the one you're talking about is probably a former KT coach?
yes i'm talking about the former KT coach, I didn't even know the TSL coach's name until now.
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On March 23 2015 22:17 Elentos wrote:
So now KT has lost against SKT, JAGW and CJ. They have to win all other matches to have a shot at the round 2 playoffs, and they have to do well throughout the rest of the year to have a shot at the final playoffs. It's about time to start winning, guys.
Take heart, my fellow KT fan. Those 3 were literally the hardest, and if we make it 4-3 isn't a disaster. I agree we need to step-up in other rounds though.
On March 23 2015 22:17 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2015 22:15 elwoodng wrote:On March 23 2015 22:09 BLinD-RawR wrote:On March 23 2015 22:06 elwoodng wrote:On March 23 2015 21:55 REyeM wrote:On March 23 2015 21:53 Elentos wrote:On March 23 2015 21:51 TheDwf wrote:
Lol… How many more ace losses Zest has to suffer so the KT coach stops sending him every. single. god. damn. time? Zest crushed Trap. Maru being fielded as ace was unexpected since he wasn't in the original lineup. Flash and Life lost against players that could have been sent out as ace. So it's between Stats and Zest, and we have no proof Stats would have done better. Except the fact that hes doing much better than Zest these days Except for the fact that Stats was smashed pretty hard by Maru in SSL. there was no way to expect that maru would come out. I respectfully disagree. KT's coach should have definitely account Maru for ace. I know Maru wasn't on the lineup and Jin Air does rotate their ace frequently, but it would be naive to not account for Maru. on the other hand it would have been a bit too obvious for jin air to assume that zest was gonna come out.
Yea Jin Air probably expected Zest. Much safer to kill him with a Terran.
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On March 23 2015 22:27 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2015 22:24 Elentos wrote:
We've reached the point where I see KT having a hard time getting 3 wins against Samsung, ST-Y and MVP. Ugh. chin up, take it as it goes, thats the KT way.
I just want them to reach the playoffs, and I want them to get their shit together.
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