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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
March 23 2015 13:30 GMT
#601
On March 23 2015 22:27 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2015 22:24 Elentos wrote:
We've reached the point where I see KT having a hard time getting 3 wins against Samsung, ST-Y and MVP. Ugh.


chin up, take it as it goes, thats the KT way.

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On March 23 2015 22:26 OtherWorld wrote:
On March 23 2015 22:22 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On March 23 2015 22:20 OtherWorld wrote:
On March 23 2015 22:17 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On March 23 2015 22:15 elwoodng wrote:
On March 23 2015 22:09 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On March 23 2015 22:06 elwoodng wrote:
On March 23 2015 21:55 REyeM wrote:
On March 23 2015 21:53 Elentos wrote:
[quote]
Zest crushed Trap. Maru being fielded as ace was unexpected since he wasn't in the original lineup. Flash and Life lost against players that could have been sent out as ace. So it's between Stats and Zest, and we have no proof Stats would have done better.


Except the fact that hes doing much better than Zest these days

Except for the fact that Stats was smashed pretty hard by Maru in SSL.


there was no way to expect that maru would come out.

I respectfully disagree. KT's coach should have definitely account Maru for ace. I know Maru wasn't on the lineup and Jin Air does rotate their ace frequently, but it would be naive to not account for Maru.


on the other hand it would have been a bit too obvious for jin air to assume that zest was gonna come out.

On March 23 2015 22:16 OtherWorld wrote:
On March 23 2015 22:15 elwoodng wrote:
On March 23 2015 22:09 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On March 23 2015 22:06 elwoodng wrote:
On March 23 2015 21:55 REyeM wrote:
[quote]

Except the fact that hes doing much better than Zest these days

Except for the fact that Stats was smashed pretty hard by Maru in SSL.


there was no way to expect that maru would come out.

I respectfully disagree. KT's coach should have definitely account Maru for ace. I know Maru wasn't on the lineup and Jin Air does rotate their ace frequently, but it would be naive to not account for Maru.

Well Ryu Won is no Coach Park, so yeah. I guess it's Kang Doh Gyung who takes the decisions though?


Coach Lee>>>>Coach Park

I didn't know a mere mortal >>>> a god >.>


do you even know who coach lee is?

iirc TSL had a coach named Lee, but I think the one you're talking about is probably a former KT coach?


yes i'm talking about the former KT coach, I didn't even know the TSL coach's name until now.

Well, Coach Park is still more impressive to me d:
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
March 23 2015 13:33 GMT
#602
On March 23 2015 22:29 elwoodng wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2015 22:17 Elentos wrote:
So now KT has lost against SKT, JAGW and CJ. They have to win all other matches to have a shot at the round 2 playoffs, and they have to do well throughout the rest of the year to have a shot at the final playoffs. It's about time to start winning, guys.

Take heart, my fellow KT fan. Those 3 were literally the hardest, and if we make it 4-3 isn't a disaster. I agree we need to step-up in other rounds though.

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On March 23 2015 22:17 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On March 23 2015 22:15 elwoodng wrote:
On March 23 2015 22:09 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On March 23 2015 22:06 elwoodng wrote:
On March 23 2015 21:55 REyeM wrote:
On March 23 2015 21:53 Elentos wrote:
On March 23 2015 21:51 TheDwf wrote:
Lol… How many more ace losses Zest has to suffer so the KT coach stops sending him every. single. god. damn. time?

Zest crushed Trap. Maru being fielded as ace was unexpected since he wasn't in the original lineup. Flash and Life lost against players that could have been sent out as ace. So it's between Stats and Zest, and we have no proof Stats would have done better.


Except the fact that hes doing much better than Zest these days

Except for the fact that Stats was smashed pretty hard by Maru in SSL.


there was no way to expect that maru would come out.

I respectfully disagree. KT's coach should have definitely account Maru for ace. I know Maru wasn't on the lineup and Jin Air does rotate their ace frequently, but it would be naive to not account for Maru.


on the other hand it would have been a bit too obvious for jin air to assume that zest was gonna come out.

Yea Jin Air probably expected Zest. Much safer to kill him with a Terran.

If KT goes 4-3 and more than 3 teams are ahead of them, that's a disaster to me. I can accept SKT, JAGW and CJ, but MVP and or Samsung? They shouldn't do better than KT, look at the rosters. Granted, Zest and Flash have stopped looking like complete trainwrecks, but still, they can do better than that.
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pichoo
Profile Joined May 2014
Australia123 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-23 13:38:20
March 23 2015 13:34 GMT
#603
Brendan and Glade also didn't expect Maru to come out as Ace, but I was almost sure he would, and he did. I don't know if KT expect him. Life would have a better chance against Maru, I'd say 50-50 than Zest. Zest PvT hasn't look to solid, or maybe Maru is a little too good these days.

Although I'd say Life looking a little stress lately, maybe adapting to a strict Kespa training regime, pressure to perform well, etc. Back when he was at Startale, he could pretty much do anything he likes.
elwoodng
Profile Joined August 2011
Singapore438 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-23 13:45:26
March 23 2015 13:42 GMT
#604
On March 23 2015 22:33 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2015 22:29 elwoodng wrote:
On March 23 2015 22:17 Elentos wrote:
So now KT has lost against SKT, JAGW and CJ. They have to win all other matches to have a shot at the round 2 playoffs, and they have to do well throughout the rest of the year to have a shot at the final playoffs. It's about time to start winning, guys.

Take heart, my fellow KT fan. Those 3 were literally the hardest, and if we make it 4-3 isn't a disaster. I agree we need to step-up in other rounds though.

On March 23 2015 22:17 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On March 23 2015 22:15 elwoodng wrote:
On March 23 2015 22:09 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On March 23 2015 22:06 elwoodng wrote:
On March 23 2015 21:55 REyeM wrote:
On March 23 2015 21:53 Elentos wrote:
On March 23 2015 21:51 TheDwf wrote:
Lol… How many more ace losses Zest has to suffer so the KT coach stops sending him every. single. god. damn. time?

Zest crushed Trap. Maru being fielded as ace was unexpected since he wasn't in the original lineup. Flash and Life lost against players that could have been sent out as ace. So it's between Stats and Zest, and we have no proof Stats would have done better.


Except the fact that hes doing much better than Zest these days

Except for the fact that Stats was smashed pretty hard by Maru in SSL.

Look at it this way, Samsung has yet to play SKT, CJ and us. Like wise for MVP. Even giving MVP a prime win, that's a potential 3-4 for both for them. Highly likely a 4-3 makes the playoffs this round. If we make it there, that's potential more points for us. I know that's a lot of assumptions, but let's have faith.
there was no way to expect that maru would come out.

I respectfully disagree. KT's coach should have definitely account Maru for ace. I know Maru wasn't on the lineup and Jin Air does rotate their ace frequently, but it would be naive to not account for Maru.


on the other hand it would have been a bit too obvious for jin air to assume that zest was gonna come out.

Yea Jin Air probably expected Zest. Much safer to kill him with a Terran.

If KT goes 4-3 and more than 3 teams are ahead of them, that's a disaster to me. I can accept SKT, JAGW and CJ, but MVP and or Samsung? They shouldn't do better than KT, look at the rosters. Granted, Zest and Flash have stopped looking like complete trainwrecks, but still, they can do better than that.

Look at it this way, Samsung has yet to play SKT, CJ and us. Likewise for MVP. Even giving MVP a free win against Prime, that's 3-4 for them. 4-3 usually makes the playoffs for a round. If we make it there, that's more potential points for us. I know it's a lot of assumptions, but let us keep faith.
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
March 23 2015 14:03 GMT
#605
On March 23 2015 21:49 DarkLordOlli wrote:
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On March 23 2015 21:46 Grizvok wrote:
On March 23 2015 21:45 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On March 23 2015 21:43 REyeM wrote:
On March 23 2015 21:42 DarkLordOlli wrote:
So basically: one mine ended the game.


Basically Maru is better in this matchup


Not this game he wasn't.


Sure he was. What you think ended the game didn't "end the game."

What ended the game is Zest not splitting his army correctly to deal with the first big drop into the natural allowing an almost completed third to get canceled.

The misreads.


That was always going to get cancelled. The first mine hit basically guarantees it. I've seen and played that exact game a million times.

And sorry, but dropping two mines on an immortal, overcharge, the MSC, a stalker and a zealot, mines getting targetted but still killing 6 probes and the MSC is NOT what I call being the better player.

He could have none of those those things and he still shouldn't lose more than 1 probe (or any if he has detection) to a wm. Zest just fucked up.
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18382 Posts
March 23 2015 14:12 GMT
#606
On March 23 2015 21:52 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2015 21:51 TheDwf wrote:
Lol… How many more ace losses Zest has to suffer so the KT coach stops sending him every. single. god. damn. time?


Coach lee would have never done this, bring back coach lee.


Remember the times in BW KT kept losing in ace because KT was being stupid and kept sending out Flash?
It's totally Coach Lee
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-23 14:39:02
March 23 2015 14:38 GMT
#607
On March 23 2015 23:03 royalroadweed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2015 21:49 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On March 23 2015 21:46 Grizvok wrote:
On March 23 2015 21:45 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On March 23 2015 21:43 REyeM wrote:
On March 23 2015 21:42 DarkLordOlli wrote:
So basically: one mine ended the game.


Basically Maru is better in this matchup


Not this game he wasn't.


Sure he was. What you think ended the game didn't "end the game."

What ended the game is Zest not splitting his army correctly to deal with the first big drop into the natural allowing an almost completed third to get canceled.

The misreads.


That was always going to get cancelled. The first mine hit basically guarantees it. I've seen and played that exact game a million times.

And sorry, but dropping two mines on an immortal, overcharge, the MSC, a stalker and a zealot, mines getting targetted but still killing 6 probes and the MSC is NOT what I call being the better player.

He could have none of those those things and he still shouldn't lose more than 1 probe (or any if he has detection) to a wm. Zest just fucked up.

no man Zest just completely outplayed Maru when he didnt move any of his probes away and didn't kill the mine fast enough. Classic DLO whining about protoss being at a disadvantage
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
March 23 2015 14:38 GMT
#608
On March 23 2015 22:42 elwoodng wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2015 22:33 Elentos wrote:
On March 23 2015 22:29 elwoodng wrote:
On March 23 2015 22:17 Elentos wrote:
So now KT has lost against SKT, JAGW and CJ. They have to win all other matches to have a shot at the round 2 playoffs, and they have to do well throughout the rest of the year to have a shot at the final playoffs. It's about time to start winning, guys.

Take heart, my fellow KT fan. Those 3 were literally the hardest, and if we make it 4-3 isn't a disaster. I agree we need to step-up in other rounds though.

On March 23 2015 22:17 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On March 23 2015 22:15 elwoodng wrote:
On March 23 2015 22:09 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On March 23 2015 22:06 elwoodng wrote:
On March 23 2015 21:55 REyeM wrote:
On March 23 2015 21:53 Elentos wrote:
On March 23 2015 21:51 TheDwf wrote:
Lol… How many more ace losses Zest has to suffer so the KT coach stops sending him every. single. god. damn. time?

Zest crushed Trap. Maru being fielded as ace was unexpected since he wasn't in the original lineup. Flash and Life lost against players that could have been sent out as ace. So it's between Stats and Zest, and we have no proof Stats would have done better.


Except the fact that hes doing much better than Zest these days

Except for the fact that Stats was smashed pretty hard by Maru in SSL.

Look at it this way, Samsung has yet to play SKT, CJ and us. Like wise for MVP. Even giving MVP a prime win, that's a potential 3-4 for both for them. Highly likely a 4-3 makes the playoffs this round. If we make it there, that's potential more points for us. I know that's a lot of assumptions, but let's have faith.
there was no way to expect that maru would come out.

I respectfully disagree. KT's coach should have definitely account Maru for ace. I know Maru wasn't on the lineup and Jin Air does rotate their ace frequently, but it would be naive to not account for Maru.


on the other hand it would have been a bit too obvious for jin air to assume that zest was gonna come out.

Yea Jin Air probably expected Zest. Much safer to kill him with a Terran.

If KT goes 4-3 and more than 3 teams are ahead of them, that's a disaster to me. I can accept SKT, JAGW and CJ, but MVP and or Samsung? They shouldn't do better than KT, look at the rosters. Granted, Zest and Flash have stopped looking like complete trainwrecks, but still, they can do better than that.

Look at it this way, Samsung has yet to play SKT, CJ and us. Likewise for MVP. Even giving MVP a free win against Prime, that's 3-4 for them. 4-3 usually makes the playoffs for a round. If we make it there, that's more potential points for us. I know it's a lot of assumptions, but let us keep faith.

Sure, it's all possible. But even if KT wins all games from now, all Samsung has to do is win against CJ or SKT and make the other series go to ace. That's why I really hope the boys bring their A-game next week. And Stats maybe some more weird strats. Whatever it takes to win.
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
March 23 2015 14:48 GMT
#609
On March 23 2015 23:38 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2015 22:42 elwoodng wrote:
On March 23 2015 22:33 Elentos wrote:
On March 23 2015 22:29 elwoodng wrote:
On March 23 2015 22:17 Elentos wrote:
So now KT has lost against SKT, JAGW and CJ. They have to win all other matches to have a shot at the round 2 playoffs, and they have to do well throughout the rest of the year to have a shot at the final playoffs. It's about time to start winning, guys.

Take heart, my fellow KT fan. Those 3 were literally the hardest, and if we make it 4-3 isn't a disaster. I agree we need to step-up in other rounds though.

On March 23 2015 22:17 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On March 23 2015 22:15 elwoodng wrote:
On March 23 2015 22:09 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On March 23 2015 22:06 elwoodng wrote:
On March 23 2015 21:55 REyeM wrote:
On March 23 2015 21:53 Elentos wrote:
[quote]
Zest crushed Trap. Maru being fielded as ace was unexpected since he wasn't in the original lineup. Flash and Life lost against players that could have been sent out as ace. So it's between Stats and Zest, and we have no proof Stats would have done better.


Except the fact that hes doing much better than Zest these days

Except for the fact that Stats was smashed pretty hard by Maru in SSL.

Look at it this way, Samsung has yet to play SKT, CJ and us. Like wise for MVP. Even giving MVP a prime win, that's a potential 3-4 for both for them. Highly likely a 4-3 makes the playoffs this round. If we make it there, that's potential more points for us. I know that's a lot of assumptions, but let's have faith.
there was no way to expect that maru would come out.

I respectfully disagree. KT's coach should have definitely account Maru for ace. I know Maru wasn't on the lineup and Jin Air does rotate their ace frequently, but it would be naive to not account for Maru.


on the other hand it would have been a bit too obvious for jin air to assume that zest was gonna come out.

Yea Jin Air probably expected Zest. Much safer to kill him with a Terran.

If KT goes 4-3 and more than 3 teams are ahead of them, that's a disaster to me. I can accept SKT, JAGW and CJ, but MVP and or Samsung? They shouldn't do better than KT, look at the rosters. Granted, Zest and Flash have stopped looking like complete trainwrecks, but still, they can do better than that.

Look at it this way, Samsung has yet to play SKT, CJ and us. Likewise for MVP. Even giving MVP a free win against Prime, that's 3-4 for them. 4-3 usually makes the playoffs for a round. If we make it there, that's more potential points for us. I know it's a lot of assumptions, but let us keep faith.

Sure, it's all possible. But even if KT wins all games from now, all Samsung has to do is win against CJ or SKT and make the other series go to ace. That's why I really hope the boys bring their A-game next week. And Stats maybe some more weird strats. Whatever it takes to win.

Samsung winning against CJ or SKT
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-23 14:55:39
March 23 2015 14:53 GMT
#610
On March 23 2015 23:48 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2015 23:38 Elentos wrote:
On March 23 2015 22:42 elwoodng wrote:
On March 23 2015 22:33 Elentos wrote:
On March 23 2015 22:29 elwoodng wrote:
On March 23 2015 22:17 Elentos wrote:
So now KT has lost against SKT, JAGW and CJ. They have to win all other matches to have a shot at the round 2 playoffs, and they have to do well throughout the rest of the year to have a shot at the final playoffs. It's about time to start winning, guys.

Take heart, my fellow KT fan. Those 3 were literally the hardest, and if we make it 4-3 isn't a disaster. I agree we need to step-up in other rounds though.

On March 23 2015 22:17 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On March 23 2015 22:15 elwoodng wrote:
On March 23 2015 22:09 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On March 23 2015 22:06 elwoodng wrote:
On March 23 2015 21:55 REyeM wrote:
[quote]

Except the fact that hes doing much better than Zest these days

Except for the fact that Stats was smashed pretty hard by Maru in SSL.

Look at it this way, Samsung has yet to play SKT, CJ and us. Like wise for MVP. Even giving MVP a prime win, that's a potential 3-4 for both for them. Highly likely a 4-3 makes the playoffs this round. If we make it there, that's potential more points for us. I know that's a lot of assumptions, but let's have faith.
there was no way to expect that maru would come out.

I respectfully disagree. KT's coach should have definitely account Maru for ace. I know Maru wasn't on the lineup and Jin Air does rotate their ace frequently, but it would be naive to not account for Maru.


on the other hand it would have been a bit too obvious for jin air to assume that zest was gonna come out.

Yea Jin Air probably expected Zest. Much safer to kill him with a Terran.

If KT goes 4-3 and more than 3 teams are ahead of them, that's a disaster to me. I can accept SKT, JAGW and CJ, but MVP and or Samsung? They shouldn't do better than KT, look at the rosters. Granted, Zest and Flash have stopped looking like complete trainwrecks, but still, they can do better than that.

Look at it this way, Samsung has yet to play SKT, CJ and us. Likewise for MVP. Even giving MVP a free win against Prime, that's 3-4 for them. 4-3 usually makes the playoffs for a round. If we make it there, that's more potential points for us. I know it's a lot of assumptions, but let us keep faith.

Sure, it's all possible. But even if KT wins all games from now, all Samsung has to do is win against CJ or SKT and make the other series go to ace. That's why I really hope the boys bring their A-game next week. And Stats maybe some more weird strats. Whatever it takes to win.

Samsung winning against CJ or SKT
kekekekeke

You laugh about it, but all it takes is one player losing to Dear (which is easily possible for most players they could send against him, tbh), one player slipping up (i.e. someone getting sniped by Bravo) and an unlucky ace match. Also, Samsung can channel the power of Guilty.
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
March 23 2015 14:54 GMT
#611
On March 23 2015 23:53 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2015 23:48 OtherWorld wrote:
On March 23 2015 23:38 Elentos wrote:
On March 23 2015 22:42 elwoodng wrote:
On March 23 2015 22:33 Elentos wrote:
On March 23 2015 22:29 elwoodng wrote:
On March 23 2015 22:17 Elentos wrote:
So now KT has lost against SKT, JAGW and CJ. They have to win all other matches to have a shot at the round 2 playoffs, and they have to do well throughout the rest of the year to have a shot at the final playoffs. It's about time to start winning, guys.

Take heart, my fellow KT fan. Those 3 were literally the hardest, and if we make it 4-3 isn't a disaster. I agree we need to step-up in other rounds though.

On March 23 2015 22:17 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On March 23 2015 22:15 elwoodng wrote:
On March 23 2015 22:09 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On March 23 2015 22:06 elwoodng wrote:
[quote]
Except for the fact that Stats was smashed pretty hard by Maru in SSL.

Look at it this way, Samsung has yet to play SKT, CJ and us. Like wise for MVP. Even giving MVP a prime win, that's a potential 3-4 for both for them. Highly likely a 4-3 makes the playoffs this round. If we make it there, that's potential more points for us. I know that's a lot of assumptions, but let's have faith.
there was no way to expect that maru would come out.

I respectfully disagree. KT's coach should have definitely account Maru for ace. I know Maru wasn't on the lineup and Jin Air does rotate their ace frequently, but it would be naive to not account for Maru.


on the other hand it would have been a bit too obvious for jin air to assume that zest was gonna come out.

Yea Jin Air probably expected Zest. Much safer to kill him with a Terran.

If KT goes 4-3 and more than 3 teams are ahead of them, that's a disaster to me. I can accept SKT, JAGW and CJ, but MVP and or Samsung? They shouldn't do better than KT, look at the rosters. Granted, Zest and Flash have stopped looking like complete trainwrecks, but still, they can do better than that.

Look at it this way, Samsung has yet to play SKT, CJ and us. Likewise for MVP. Even giving MVP a free win against Prime, that's 3-4 for them. 4-3 usually makes the playoffs for a round. If we make it there, that's more potential points for us. I know it's a lot of assumptions, but let us keep faith.

Sure, it's all possible. But even if KT wins all games from now, all Samsung has to do is win against CJ or SKT and make the other series go to ace. That's why I really hope the boys bring their A-game next week. And Stats maybe some more weird strats. Whatever it takes to win.

Samsung winning against CJ or SKT
kekekekeke

You laugh about it, but all it takes is one player losing to Dear (which is almost a given for most players they could send against him, tbh), one player slipping up (i.e. someone getting sniped by Bravo) and an unlucky ace match. Also, Samsung can channel the power of Guilty.

I know, I know, Samsung is no Prime, but I still think that the probability of this happening is <30%
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
March 23 2015 14:57 GMT
#612
On March 23 2015 23:54 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2015 23:53 Elentos wrote:
On March 23 2015 23:48 OtherWorld wrote:
On March 23 2015 23:38 Elentos wrote:
On March 23 2015 22:42 elwoodng wrote:
On March 23 2015 22:33 Elentos wrote:
On March 23 2015 22:29 elwoodng wrote:
On March 23 2015 22:17 Elentos wrote:
So now KT has lost against SKT, JAGW and CJ. They have to win all other matches to have a shot at the round 2 playoffs, and they have to do well throughout the rest of the year to have a shot at the final playoffs. It's about time to start winning, guys.

Take heart, my fellow KT fan. Those 3 were literally the hardest, and if we make it 4-3 isn't a disaster. I agree we need to step-up in other rounds though.

On March 23 2015 22:17 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On March 23 2015 22:15 elwoodng wrote:
On March 23 2015 22:09 BLinD-RawR wrote:
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Look at it this way, Samsung has yet to play SKT, CJ and us. Like wise for MVP. Even giving MVP a prime win, that's a potential 3-4 for both for them. Highly likely a 4-3 makes the playoffs this round. If we make it there, that's potential more points for us. I know that's a lot of assumptions, but let's have faith.
there was no way to expect that maru would come out.

I respectfully disagree. KT's coach should have definitely account Maru for ace. I know Maru wasn't on the lineup and Jin Air does rotate their ace frequently, but it would be naive to not account for Maru.


on the other hand it would have been a bit too obvious for jin air to assume that zest was gonna come out.

Yea Jin Air probably expected Zest. Much safer to kill him with a Terran.

If KT goes 4-3 and more than 3 teams are ahead of them, that's a disaster to me. I can accept SKT, JAGW and CJ, but MVP and or Samsung? They shouldn't do better than KT, look at the rosters. Granted, Zest and Flash have stopped looking like complete trainwrecks, but still, they can do better than that.

Look at it this way, Samsung has yet to play SKT, CJ and us. Likewise for MVP. Even giving MVP a free win against Prime, that's 3-4 for them. 4-3 usually makes the playoffs for a round. If we make it there, that's more potential points for us. I know it's a lot of assumptions, but let us keep faith.

Sure, it's all possible. But even if KT wins all games from now, all Samsung has to do is win against CJ or SKT and make the other series go to ace. That's why I really hope the boys bring their A-game next week. And Stats maybe some more weird strats. Whatever it takes to win.

Samsung winning against CJ or SKT
kekekekeke

You laugh about it, but all it takes is one player losing to Dear (which is almost a given for most players they could send against him, tbh), one player slipping up (i.e. someone getting sniped by Bravo) and an unlucky ace match. Also, Samsung can channel the power of Guilty.

I know, I know, Samsung is no Prime, but I still think that the probability of this happening is <30%

It's unlikely, sure. Out of their last 3 opponents, unfortunately KT is the most likely to lose against them. But it's not over yet. I believe in KT <.<
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Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50107 Posts
March 23 2015 15:05 GMT
#613
On March 23 2015 23:12 sharkie wrote:
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On March 23 2015 21:52 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On March 23 2015 21:51 TheDwf wrote:
Lol… How many more ace losses Zest has to suffer so the KT coach stops sending him every. single. god. damn. time?


Coach lee would have never done this, bring back coach lee.


Remember the times in BW KT kept losing in ace because KT was being stupid and kept sending out Flash?
It's totally Coach Lee


heh, you got me there, but at the very least he started fielding stats more after that.
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KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
March 23 2015 15:27 GMT
#614
Yay Jin Air won. Also wtf Stats did proxy colossus?
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 23 2015 15:29 GMT
#615
On March 24 2015 00:27 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Yay Jin Air won. Also wtf Stats did proxy colossus?

great game
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France17333 Posts
March 23 2015 15:33 GMT
#616
On March 24 2015 00:29 Ej_ wrote:
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On March 24 2015 00:27 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Yay Jin Air won. Also wtf Stats did proxy colossus?

great game

One of the greatest game of the month for sure
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Profile Joined October 2014
United States4054 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-23 17:06:07
March 23 2015 17:05 GMT
#617
As a Kespa team, why does Samsung not invest more money into better players? Surely they have money to throw around
REyeM
Profile Joined August 2014
2674 Posts
March 23 2015 17:12 GMT
#618
On March 24 2015 02:05 Alucen-Will- wrote:
As a Kespa team, why does Samsung not invest more money into better players? Surely they have money to throw around


Well, apart from Rain, SK and PartinG who decided not to play in korean teams, there aren't many players to throw money at.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-23 17:24:39
March 23 2015 17:24 GMT
#619
On March 24 2015 02:12 REyeM wrote:
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On March 24 2015 02:05 Alucen-Will- wrote:
As a Kespa team, why does Samsung not invest more money into better players? Surely they have money to throw around


Well, apart from Rain, SK and PartinG who decided not to play in korean teams, there aren't many players to throw money at.

They picked up Dear before the season who is now getting better and better, and they got sweet jackets. So if any Korean in a foreign team wants to go back to KeSPA, Samsung's got some great arguments.
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France17333 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-23 17:34:01
March 23 2015 17:33 GMT
#620
On March 24 2015 02:05 Alucen-Will- wrote:
As a Kespa team, why does Samsung not invest more money into better players? Surely they have money to throw around

Dear and Solar are in theory top players, like potentially among the best of their respective races. Reality, BravO and, in theory, Stork, all have the potential to be strong PL players, and the remaining of the team (Armani, Shine, ...) is strong. There's nothing wrong with Samsung's lineup in itself (it's probably better than last year's CJ, for example). And they had the mighty RorO too.
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