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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-22 20:19:24
March 22 2015 20:19 GMT
#2381
On March 23 2015 05:10 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2015 05:06 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On March 23 2015 04:43 Fuell wrote:
Life won more on cheesing/deflecting easy cheeses, PartinG got him in macro games. Interesting.


Life hates SH. Roach/ling/hydra/muta or bust.

didnt look like he hated it too much at blizzcon


That and against Flash in the Shoutcraft Invitational are some of the only instances in which I can remember Life going full-turtle SH.

Most of the time he seems to avoid them.
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Strela
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands1896 Posts
March 22 2015 20:26 GMT
#2382
Well I can understand 5% of the words in the french cast :D
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17744 Posts
March 22 2015 20:26 GMT
#2383
On March 23 2015 04:43 Fuell wrote:
Life won more on cheesing/deflecting easy cheeses, PartinG got him in macro games. Interesting.

Another way to look at it is that Parting only went for macro games on maps where he really knew it would work for him
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Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
March 22 2015 20:51 GMT
#2384
On March 23 2015 04:43 Fuell wrote:
Life won more on cheesing/deflecting easy cheeses, PartinG got him in macro games. Interesting.

The story of highest level Korean PvZ for the most part. Same story as in soO vs Zest, though soO lost that one when Zest eventually got the memo to stop cheesing.
Fuell
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands3111 Posts
March 22 2015 20:52 GMT
#2385
Honestly as biggest PartinG fan there is I still thought Life would take it 4-0 or 4-1. Managing to take it to 4-3 surprised me. I can say confidently now PartinG is the best Protoss atm. Maybe still a little under in PvZ compared to herO, but much closer than I thought. Better in PvT and PvP though :D! Gotta stay positive.
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RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
March 22 2015 20:55 GMT
#2386
Wonder if the SH change goes live are we going to see protoss going late game and zerg trying to win early.
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
March 22 2015 21:00 GMT
#2387
On March 23 2015 05:26 Strela wrote:
Well I can understand 5% of the words in the french cast :D

But you see the units !
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Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
March 22 2015 21:23 GMT
#2388
Lifu my waifu good job. Joining the few players with multiple GSL titles :D
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 22 2015 21:25 GMT
#2389
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More nonbelievers than I was expecting
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Tuczniak
Profile Joined September 2010
1561 Posts
March 22 2015 22:05 GMT
#2390
Any Vods not behind paywall?
cheekymonkey
Profile Joined January 2014
France1387 Posts
March 22 2015 22:07 GMT
#2391
Great final, but overall I must say Parting played at least as impressive as Life. Ignoring that failed coin-toss first game, they went 3-3.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37101 Posts
March 22 2015 22:16 GMT
#2392
On March 23 2015 06:25 Shellshock wrote:
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More nonbelievers than I was expecting

I agree. The voters # for PartinG should be higher,
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sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
March 22 2015 22:17 GMT
#2393
On March 23 2015 04:43 Fuell wrote:
Life won more on cheesing/deflecting easy cheeses, PartinG got him in macro games. Interesting.

Which macro games? The games Life lost he was behind from failed aggression. First game he lost he did a Roach/Ling all-in, didn't do enough damage, lost to the follow up Immortal push. 2nd game he lost he invested way too much to try to cancel the 3rd without even saturating his own 3rd, he had lower worker count than Parting at some point. 3rd game he lost he did a 2 base Burrow Roach push that didn't do enough damage and left him behind. In all 3 games Parting defended the all-in aggression, then won with the counter push.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
March 22 2015 22:45 GMT
#2394
On March 23 2015 07:16 Seeker wrote:
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On March 23 2015 06:25 Shellshock wrote:
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More nonbelievers than I was expecting

I agree. The voters # for PartinG should be higher,

I thought PartinG would win but I voted Life because of mind games.
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movac
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada494 Posts
March 22 2015 22:59 GMT
#2395
I gotta say.. this finals goes up there as among one of the best ones. I haven't stayed up so late to watch a finals live in a very long time, but I'm glad it was for this one.
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
March 22 2015 23:09 GMT
#2396
On March 23 2015 07:07 cheekymonkey wrote:
Great final, but overall I must say Parting played at least as impressive as Life. Ignoring that failed coin-toss first game, they went 3-3.


The ace match felt like a failed coin toss for Parting too. Nexus first vs 9pool -_-
LordYama
Profile Joined August 2010
United States370 Posts
March 22 2015 23:16 GMT
#2397
Both players employed cheese and mostly lost in doing so because of the skill of their opponent scouting and defending. It's only Life's final cheese that actually worked out because of the coin flip (9pool vs. nexus first), but even then the advantage he secured was significant but not game ending until his mass worker kill later in the game, it still took some skill and attention to cash in the win. Very easy to turn a significant advantage in ZvP into a loss either through overextending/overaggression with stagnant tech and economy and a bad engagement or two.

Can anyone comment on Life's decision to cancel the nexus rather than go after workers with his first lings? I don't play or watch the matchup enough to know if that is the standard play in that situation, I thought worker kills were more certain damage.
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-22 23:39:17
March 22 2015 23:37 GMT
#2398
On March 23 2015 08:16 LordYama wrote:
Can anyone comment on Life's decision to cancel the nexus rather than go after workers with his first lings? I don't play or watch the matchup enough to know if that is the standard play in that situation, I thought worker kills were more certain damage.

Well in this case Life was one base and if he goes for some worker kills (which is hard to do if you pull workers perfectly (and Parting is able to do that) + have a Zealot out) and Parting gets his 2nd up Life is dead (since then Parting can quickly outproduce Life in either drones or makes a 2 base 4 gate and kill life just with gateway units or so)
Killing the nexus and contain the P inbase is the right thing to do:
If you kill 3-4 workers but don't kill the nexus right away, there is a chance the nexus will be safed by the mothership core and then 2-3 avaliable zealots.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
March 22 2015 23:50 GMT
#2399
On March 23 2015 04:43 Fuell wrote:
Life won more on cheesing/deflecting easy cheeses, PartinG got him in macro games. Interesting.

I was counting down the seconds until you showed up and said some BS

Life won tho
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Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
March 22 2015 23:54 GMT
#2400
On March 23 2015 08:09 HolyArrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2015 07:07 cheekymonkey wrote:
Great final, but overall I must say Parting played at least as impressive as Life. Ignoring that failed coin-toss first game, they went 3-3.


The ace match felt like a failed coin toss for Parting too. Nexus first vs 9pool -_-


It's a super open map with an exposed third, almost every standard PvZ was going to be about 2 base play on the third base of the opponent. Nexus first is pretty good against anything that isn't a super fast pool.
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