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[IEM Season IX] Katowice - Day 3 - Page 255

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Cut down on the balance/design whining please.
Thrillz
Profile Joined May 2012
4313 Posts
March 14 2015 23:49 GMT
#5081
Well just checked the results... wtf PvP finals...how did that happen.
neutralrobot
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia1025 Posts
March 14 2015 23:56 GMT
#5082
Just woke up to see that every match has produced the most wiggidy-wack result I could have thought of. What in the everloving hell is going on here? This seems to me like one of the weirdest results I've seen in a tournament in a while. SC2 needs to start taking its lithium again.
Maru | Life | PartinG || I guess I like aggressive control freaks... || Reynor will one day reign supreme || *reyn supreme
Cheren
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States2911 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-15 00:05:48
March 15 2015 00:04 GMT
#5083
TvP was 17-16 in favor of Terran this tournament. It's a PvP final not because protoss dominated, but because of brackets and a lot of close matches.
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
March 15 2015 00:05 GMT
#5084
PvP finals boysssss
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
showstealer1829
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Australia3123 Posts
March 15 2015 00:11 GMT
#5085
PvP finals. Ahh my protoss heart is pleased, the system works
There is no understanding. There is only Choya. Choya is the way. Choya is Love. Choya is Life. Has is the Light in the Protoss Dark and Nightmare is his chosen Acolyte
Valikyr
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
March 15 2015 00:12 GMT
#5086
Almost every match was a disappointment this tournament for me resultwise lol.
Packawana
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1081 Posts
March 15 2015 00:23 GMT
#5087
This whole tournament has been one liquibet massacre.
"May all your dreaming fill the empty sky."
Kuchikikun
Profile Joined March 2013
Italy560 Posts
March 15 2015 00:25 GMT
#5088
On March 15 2015 09:04 Cheren wrote:
TvP was 17-16 in favor of Terran this tournament. It's a PvP final not because protoss dominated, but because of brackets and a lot of close matches.


That's not how it works,you should say that protoss is OP,the game is broken and terran is so hard to play that everytime a zerg or a toss wins a tournament BLizzard should wake up!

Anyway can't wait for the PvP finals.
esdf
Profile Joined December 2012
Croatia736 Posts
March 15 2015 00:32 GMT
#5089
my boy zest trashing sktt1 like it's 2014. trap goin down easy peasy lemon squeezy
why do you not believe it? the legend has alived!
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
March 15 2015 00:32 GMT
#5090
On March 15 2015 08:25 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2015 08:20 caznitch wrote:
Wow.... Really surprised to see the comments here. I just finished watching the rest of day 2 (have watched every match so far) and was sure there would be enthusiasm for how this tourney has gone so far. The variety of the builds are great, the protoss players (hero, zest, trap) were showing really unique styles with everything from Colosi drop to double oracle to standard macro. There is the "Zest is back" underdog story and the first mirror matchup for a finals. I don't know how you can call yourselves sc2 fans and not be loving this tournament so far.

Because everybody, literally everybody except for Fantasy, is underperforming. herO, after barely defeating Cure who practically defeated himself on Deadwing, looked like a buffoon against Bbyong who looked horrible against Zest who looked bad throughout the tournament, and still beat INnoVation who beat Life. Patience played the worst out of any player in the tournament and got stomped by Maru, who missed a nydus worm in his main, in plain view, and stood no chance against Dark, who had bigger issues with quasi-retired TaeJa. Dark then makes himself look like a fool with his outrageously bad engagement on expedition lost against Trap. Trap barely beat Flash and Fantasy, who were by no means favourites, and Flash wasn't even playing that well.

TL;DR: Game quality underwhelming.

Good post/ summary. For me it felt like the tournament never really took of, players not getting into their proper shape. There were still some good games though nevertheless.
I Protoss winner, could it be?
aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
March 15 2015 00:34 GMT
#5091
Pvp finals gonna make me cry
can i get my estro logo back pls
shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
March 15 2015 00:37 GMT
#5092
How to not have a 50k plus viewer finals : Having these 2 guys in final.

(can't believe i hope to have 50k...a year ago we did 120k )
RIP MKP
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
March 15 2015 00:43 GMT
#5093
On March 15 2015 09:37 shid0x wrote:
How to not have a 50k plus viewer finals : Having these 2 guys in final.

(can't believe i hope to have 50k...a year ago we did 120k )

If it makes you feel any better, we were only being beat by Minecraft for a portioin of today's event
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
March 15 2015 00:56 GMT
#5094
On March 15 2015 09:32 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2015 08:25 Elentos wrote:
On March 15 2015 08:20 caznitch wrote:
Wow.... Really surprised to see the comments here. I just finished watching the rest of day 2 (have watched every match so far) and was sure there would be enthusiasm for how this tourney has gone so far. The variety of the builds are great, the protoss players (hero, zest, trap) were showing really unique styles with everything from Colosi drop to double oracle to standard macro. There is the "Zest is back" underdog story and the first mirror matchup for a finals. I don't know how you can call yourselves sc2 fans and not be loving this tournament so far.

Because everybody, literally everybody except for Fantasy, is underperforming. herO, after barely defeating Cure who practically defeated himself on Deadwing, looked like a buffoon against Bbyong who looked horrible against Zest who looked bad throughout the tournament, and still beat INnoVation who beat Life. Patience played the worst out of any player in the tournament and got stomped by Maru, who missed a nydus worm in his main, in plain view, and stood no chance against Dark, who had bigger issues with quasi-retired TaeJa. Dark then makes himself look like a fool with his outrageously bad engagement on expedition lost against Trap. Trap barely beat Flash and Fantasy, who were by no means favourites, and Flash wasn't even playing that well.

TL;DR: Game quality underwhelming.

Good post/ summary. For me it felt like the tournament never really took of, players not getting into their proper shape. There were still some good games though nevertheless.

Yes, that's basically how I see it aswell. I'll give credit to Zest who, despite, uh, "lackluster" execution, had really strong game plans against INnoVation and Bbyong (the fact that he was this well prepared for the matches despite having only little time for preparation is astounding) and to Trap, who, funnily enough mostly showed off his amazing execution but also had very strong game plans, especially for Flash though. They do deserve to be in the finals (albeit maybe for the wrong reasons).

But overall, I'm disappointed. IEM VIII Cologne was amazing, probably the best SC2 tournament I've watched. All other following IEMs were also very high level. IEM, to me, was associated with high level SC2 from that point on. And then we get this tournament in which some of the world's finest players play incredibly unclean and make it seem like the meta has gone backwards. I mean, ffs, one game of Zest vs Bbyong was DTs into gateway pressure into colossi vs (kinda forced, but still) 1-1-1. There were several PvT series, the majority of them had blink all-ins. This tournament was, overall, just weird.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
chambertin
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1704 Posts
March 15 2015 01:07 GMT
#5095
On March 15 2015 08:25 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2015 08:20 caznitch wrote:
Wow.... Really surprised to see the comments here. I just finished watching the rest of day 2 (have watched every match so far) and was sure there would be enthusiasm for how this tourney has gone so far. The variety of the builds are great, the protoss players (hero, zest, trap) were showing really unique styles with everything from Colosi drop to double oracle to standard macro. There is the "Zest is back" underdog story and the first mirror matchup for a finals. I don't know how you can call yourselves sc2 fans and not be loving this tournament so far.

Because everybody, literally everybody except for Fantasy, is underperforming. herO, after barely defeating Cure who practically defeated himself on Deadwing, looked like a buffoon against Bbyong who looked horrible against Zest who looked bad throughout the tournament, and still beat INnoVation who beat Life. Patience played the worst out of any player in the tournament and got stomped by Maru, who missed a nydus worm in his main, in plain view, and stood no chance against Dark, who had bigger issues with quasi-retired TaeJa. Dark then makes himself look like a fool with his outrageously bad engagement on Expedition Lost against Trap. Trap barely beat Flash and Fantasy, who were by no means favourites, and Flash wasn't even playing that well.

TL;DR: Game quality underwhelming.


was going to watch day 3 vods but... damn.
"I know one thing, that I know nothing" - Socrates?
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
March 15 2015 01:16 GMT
#5096
Guys, this is the most hilarious tournament ever.

We have Trap who pulls all sorts of shenigans but also had great macro games, mindfucking everyone on his way into the final. Then we have out-of-shape Zest who was practically dead vs Hydra, but slowly crawls back, then confuses the hell out of Innovation with his slapstick all-ins, somehow edging through and became unpredictable to Bbyong.

It's the guy who retains his composure, who remains elusive and who controlls the dynamics that will win. Both Trap and Zest have had plenty of this. That's why they are deservedly in the final imo.
kaykoose
Profile Joined February 2014
United States2302 Posts
March 15 2015 01:45 GMT
#5097
I've been tuning in here and there and iunno... I think this game isn't doing it for me anymore. TvP and PvZ are especially boring to me. Hopefully we'll see good shenanigans tomorrow. LoTV can't come soon enough.
Thrillz
Profile Joined May 2012
4313 Posts
March 15 2015 01:49 GMT
#5098
On March 15 2015 10:45 kaykoose wrote:
I've been tuning in here and there and iunno... I think this game isn't doing it for me anymore. TvP and PvZ are especially boring to me. Hopefully we'll see good shenanigans tomorrow. LoTV can't come soon enough.


That's what we said about HotS.
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
March 15 2015 01:52 GMT
#5099
I dunno man, the PvZ we had today I think was a real treat. The games were really exciting, Dark and Trap know how to put on a show.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
March 15 2015 01:57 GMT
#5100
Hahahahaha so good so good I can't believe it. I was told that Zest was a patchtoss and was literally Zoun. I was told that any Terran would 3-0 him with ease, that he has always been bad in the MU. That him being KT's ace was a shame and that literally any player on KT would do better. How come he's in the finals of IEM Katowice? Could it be that the TL experts were wrong all along?
ZEST IS THE BEST <3
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