On March 07 2015 08:11 sc2_FeaR wrote:
Zest being mentioned. I kind of laugh, not sure how anyone can compare him to Life? Zest has been really really bad lately

3 Korean HotS Premiers to 0 still stands.

CAG Husker

United States117 Posts

March 06 2015 23:20 GMT

#1586

Inno or herO, no one can match their consistency.

Darkhorse

United States23455 Posts

March 06 2015 23:26 GMT

#1587

On March 07 2015 06:59 Bagration wrote:

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I don't think anyone reasonable is trying to argue against the fact that Mvp is the GOAT of WoL. But I think as time goes on (and players like Life continue to rack up tournament wins), I don't think it's fair to call Mvp the GOAT of all of SC2, especially if he's been largely inactive for 2 years now

Bah it'll be years before Mvp is surpassed. MMA and Life seem to be capable maybe if they win more Korean events (and Taeja may retire)

Bagration

United States18282 Posts

March 06 2015 23:45 GMT

#1588

On March 07 2015 08:26 Darkhorse wrote:

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Bah it'll be years before Mvp is surpassed. MMA and Life seem to be capable maybe if they win more Korean events (and Taeja may retire)

Well, even as a MMA fan it would be hard for MMA to surpass Mvp, since this is likely his last year as a progamer

Frankly, I've been pleasantly surprised by how well MMA has done in the past few months (2nd at Blizzcon, and Ro4 in GSL), and I'd be really surprised if he can win a few more Korean premiers.

Life could surpass Mvp by year end if he can keep up this form. Plus Life is young, and doesn't have any injuries, so he could still theoretically compete for a few more years.

I think Taeja has even less of a chance than MMA, since he has very few large tournament wins (GSLs, WCS, Blizzcons, etc.), and he's injured and on the cusp of retirement.

Maybe if someone like Innovation, Zest, herO or PartinG had a ridiculously good year or two, then maybe we could talk about them, but aside from PartinG these are all relatively new faces to the scene.

xuanzue

Colombia1747 Posts

March 07 2015 00:10 GMT

#1589

I like how the french stream call bogus "Innovación"

SackOfWetMice

United States288 Posts

March 07 2015 00:16 GMT

#1590

On March 07 2015 08:19 rotta wrote:

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3 Korean HotS Premiers to 0 still stands.

Irrelevant and misleading stat. Zest still doesn't belong anywhere near that list.

KeSPA Cup? All of his matches were PvPs. 4 PvPs for that 'premier' win.
GSL Global Championship? He was seeded in, didn't have to qualify. And played 4 matches total for that 'premier' win.
And the GSL he won? 16 Protoss, 3 Terran in GSL that season.

All during the only period where Protoss was indisputably overpowered. and PvP is his best matchup. Look at how he's done when Protoss isn't massively OP anymore; nothing. He loses to TANGTANG, DeParture, Creator, etc., and can't even make it into Code A. In fact he got first rounded in the qualifiers to get into Code A.

Cheren

United States2911 Posts

March 07 2015 00:50 GMT

#1591

On March 07 2015 07:52 rotta wrote:
Nope, too early to vote.

But Summer 2012 wasn't too early to declare Mvp King of Wings.

hborrgg

United States888 Posts

March 07 2015 00:54 GMT

#1592

On March 07 2015 07:21 Cheren wrote:
I think Mvp is obviously the best player overall for WoL, but who is the GOAT if you only count HotS?

Poll: Best player of HotS?

Life (19)

50%

Zest (7)

18%

Someone else (say who) (4)

11%

Innovation (3)

8%

soO (3)

8%

Taeja (2)

5%

38 total votes

Your vote: Best player of HotS?

(Vote): Life
(Vote): Innovation
(Vote): Taeja
(Vote): Zest
(Vote): soO
(Vote): Someone else (say who)

My vote goes to Life with Innovation being inches behind.

Dream

stuchiu

Fiddler's Green42661 Posts

March 07 2015 01:04 GMT

#1593

This is like every other SC2 conversation I have where I inevitably bring up how cool Mvp was.

Deathstar

9150 Posts

March 07 2015 01:21 GMT

#1594

On March 07 2015 05:14 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:

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Haven't used this in awhile:

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herO will stop life in his tracks.

believe it!

AxiomBlurr

786 Posts

March 07 2015 01:23 GMT

#1595

Rogue v herO series was soooooo high level...
BUT I missed the Life v Inno series

VODs link please!~~~ guess there are none yet...

Cricketer12

United States13974 Posts

March 07 2015 01:36 GMT

#1596

On March 07 2015 07:49 imrusty269 wrote:

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Maru.

sOs

Darkhorse

United States23455 Posts

March 07 2015 01:40 GMT

#1597

On March 07 2015 09:50 Cheren wrote:

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But Summer 2012 wasn't too early to declare Mvp King of Wings.

He had 4 GSL championships by that time. Seems fair

TheAnarchy

Chile1105 Posts

March 07 2015 01:55 GMT

#1598

Top 5: MVP, MC, Life, Nestea and Polt (then MMA,Taeja,DRG, Bomber and Inno).

Deathstar

9150 Posts

March 07 2015 02:11 GMT

#1599

LotV isn't even out yet. What's the point of this banter. People like MVP, Nestea, and MC will disappear into irrelevancy. Their time of dominance is long gone, in another game.

Darkhorse

United States23455 Posts

March 07 2015 02:45 GMT

#1600

On March 07 2015 11:11 Deathstar wrote:
LotV isn't even out yet. What's the point of this banter. People like MVP, Nestea, and MC will disappear into irrelevancy. Their time of dominance is long gone, in another game.

Mvp won a Premier in HotS as did MC and MC is still in Code S. Also it cannot be understated or undervalued how these three greats pushed the metagame forward for each of their own races as they won those early GSLs.

In short: respect yo elders (for sc2 ;D)