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On February 28 2015 00:04 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2015 00:02 Elentos wrote:On February 27 2015 23:58 sharkie wrote:On February 27 2015 23:49 OtherWorld wrote:On February 27 2015 23:41 DarkLordOlli wrote:On February 27 2015 21:43 OtherWorld wrote:On February 27 2015 21:40 DarkLordOlli wrote:On February 27 2015 21:38 Big J wrote:On February 27 2015 21:36 DarkLordOlli wrote:On February 27 2015 21:35 sharkie wrote:
btw herO > Rain in every possible way
herO most consistent protoss of the last two years! If only he could PvP at a good level. If only his brain wouldn't default into flipping coins so often when he has like the best macro game of all Protoss. He doesn't in PvP. herO is not the best PvPer when it becomes a macro game? What? Just got back to this. He is not and he is nowhere near that. herO makes basic decisionmaking mistakes in pvp macro games that the best PvPers wouldn't make. Hmm who are the best macro PvPers then? (legit question, I suck at PvP analysis/knowledge) only Zest. DLO will prolly say Rain but he has no idea sOs and recently Creator are also up there. On February 28 2015 00:01 Shellshock wrote:
I still don't understand why innovation got to make that last move in the group selection Because he was the highest seeded player. but it's a ridiculous advantage that they introduced which was never in a previous season. As the highest seeded player he already got to pick the easiest player to face first.
hmm yeah it's kind of weird
if i were innovation, then yeah i'd place the two biggest threats to me in the same group so as to eliminate one of them
maru q_q RIP
fuck's sake, he's still in NSSL. i'm going to root for him so hard
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United Kingdom31935 Posts
All I'm waiting for now is for cricketer to show up so he can be ashamed
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YES! Ideal result by a long way! herO/PartinG fighting!
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herO maru is a must see ?
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All Kespa semi-finals is possible. 
BaBy, Solar, Bogus, and Rogue/herO.
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meh no maru :/
But hey at least MC was last, the universe keeps working
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On February 28 2015 00:07 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2015 00:04 Shellshock wrote:On February 28 2015 00:02 Elentos wrote:On February 27 2015 23:58 sharkie wrote:On February 27 2015 23:49 OtherWorld wrote:On February 27 2015 23:41 DarkLordOlli wrote:On February 27 2015 21:43 OtherWorld wrote:On February 27 2015 21:40 DarkLordOlli wrote:On February 27 2015 21:38 Big J wrote:On February 27 2015 21:36 DarkLordOlli wrote:
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If only he could PvP at a good level. If only his brain wouldn't default into flipping coins so often when he has like the best macro game of all Protoss. He doesn't in PvP. herO is not the best PvPer when it becomes a macro game? What? Just got back to this. He is not and he is nowhere near that. herO makes basic decisionmaking mistakes in pvp macro games that the best PvPers wouldn't make. Hmm who are the best macro PvPers then? (legit question, I suck at PvP analysis/knowledge) only Zest. DLO will prolly say Rain but he has no idea sOs and recently Creator are also up there. On February 28 2015 00:01 Shellshock wrote:
I still don't understand why innovation got to make that last move in the group selection Because he was the highest seeded player. but it's a ridiculous advantage that they introduced which was never in a previous season. As the highest seeded player he already got to pick the easiest player to face first. Listen, you know the rules, and so do I, but that doesn't mean they make sense or are good rules.
OMG you rickrolled the Shellbot! :o
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If Parting can beat Solar (a fairly big ask) I think he's got an insanely good chance of making the final. I can't really see MMA or TY beating him in TvP.
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On February 28 2015 03:51 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2015 00:07 Elentos wrote:On February 28 2015 00:04 Shellshock wrote:On February 28 2015 00:02 Elentos wrote:On February 27 2015 23:58 sharkie wrote:On February 27 2015 23:49 OtherWorld wrote:On February 27 2015 23:41 DarkLordOlli wrote:On February 27 2015 21:43 OtherWorld wrote:On February 27 2015 21:40 DarkLordOlli wrote:On February 27 2015 21:38 Big J wrote:
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If only his brain wouldn't default into flipping coins so often when he has like the best macro game of all Protoss. He doesn't in PvP. herO is not the best PvPer when it becomes a macro game? What? Just got back to this. He is not and he is nowhere near that. herO makes basic decisionmaking mistakes in pvp macro games that the best PvPers wouldn't make. Hmm who are the best macro PvPers then? (legit question, I suck at PvP analysis/knowledge) only Zest. DLO will prolly say Rain but he has no idea sOs and recently Creator are also up there. On February 28 2015 00:01 Shellshock wrote:
I still don't understand why innovation got to make that last move in the group selection Because he was the highest seeded player. but it's a ridiculous advantage that they introduced which was never in a previous season. As the highest seeded player he already got to pick the easiest player to face first. Listen, you know the rules, and so do I, but that doesn't mean they make sense or are good rules. OMG you rickrolled the Shellbot! :o
I'll send kbb after you again
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On February 28 2015 04:01 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2015 03:51 Penev wrote:On February 28 2015 00:07 Elentos wrote:On February 28 2015 00:04 Shellshock wrote:On February 28 2015 00:02 Elentos wrote:On February 27 2015 23:58 sharkie wrote:On February 27 2015 23:49 OtherWorld wrote:On February 27 2015 23:41 DarkLordOlli wrote:On February 27 2015 21:43 OtherWorld wrote:On February 27 2015 21:40 DarkLordOlli wrote:
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He doesn't in PvP. herO is not the best PvPer when it becomes a macro game? What? Just got back to this. He is not and he is nowhere near that. herO makes basic decisionmaking mistakes in pvp macro games that the best PvPers wouldn't make. Hmm who are the best macro PvPers then? (legit question, I suck at PvP analysis/knowledge) only Zest. DLO will prolly say Rain but he has no idea sOs and recently Creator are also up there. On February 28 2015 00:01 Shellshock wrote:
I still don't understand why innovation got to make that last move in the group selection Because he was the highest seeded player. but it's a ridiculous advantage that they introduced which was never in a previous season. As the highest seeded player he already got to pick the easiest player to face first. Listen, you know the rules, and so do I, but that doesn't mean they make sense or are good rules. OMG you rickrolled the Shellbot! :o I'll send kbb after you again
Hehe, he's actually pretty nice. Now I feel guilty.. :/
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NO MC T_T!
NO MARU!
This is so sad. Worst result possible. Won't even get a possible Life vs PartinG in the semis. Fuck everything.
That game 2 of Maru vs herO on MGR though.. holy shit. Best game of 2015 so far. Maru was so masculine in his desire to win. I would've just floated my buildings and played it safe for a draw like a jabroni, but Maru said fuck that and FUCK HEROOOOOO *snipes last pylon*. Then he lost in g3 and then to PartinG ;/
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Damn, wish MC got through but at least Parting got his revenge.
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Cricketer12
United States14003 Posts
I would like to apologize for my oversleeping, I totally blame The_Templar for this.
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United Kingdom31935 Posts
On February 28 2015 04:47 Cricketer12 wrote:
I would like to apologize for my oversleeping, I totally blame The_Templar for this.
Not gonna cut it this time! RIP PASHUN
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your Country52798 Posts
On February 28 2015 04:47 Cricketer12 wrote:
I would like to apologize for my oversleeping, I totally blame The_Templar for this.
If this happened to me, I would blame myself for this. No excuses ^^
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On February 28 2015 05:07 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2015 04:47 Cricketer12 wrote:
I would like to apologize for my oversleeping, I totally blame The_Templar for this. If this happened to me, I would blame myself for this. No excuses ^^
He is blaming yourself. I don't see the conflict here.
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fuuuck...... how did maru not get out..
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On February 27 2015 23:19 Big J wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2015 23:12 dazed25 wrote:On February 27 2015 22:58 sharkie wrote:On February 27 2015 22:57 dazed25 wrote:On February 27 2015 22:52 sAsImre wrote:On February 27 2015 22:51 ZAiNs wrote:On February 27 2015 22:49 boxerfred wrote:On February 27 2015 22:48 ZAiNs wrote:On February 27 2015 22:46 Keeemy wrote:On February 27 2015 22:46 Ej_ wrote:I don't know how people could put  Maru in the same tier as INnoVation,  Rain or  Life How can you put Rain in the same tier as Life and Bogus? Yea, Innovation and Life fall off all the time. Rain is so consistent. hahaha Rain has never been Code B like Life was last year  . i'm searching a tournament win in 2014, could you help me: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Rain_(Korean_Protoss)/Results Before Rain's disastrous RO16 group the other day he was still the best all around Protoss (due to herO's PvP weakness and sOs/Zest not making it to individual leagues). Regardless he's not in the Life & Inno bracket atm but he's been one of the best players of the last 2 years. If you just care about championships you can also say that soO hasn't been one of the best and most consistent players over the last year. And Maru also hasn't won anything in a while but has still been one of the best terrans and players as well. herO beat Rain in the only time they've met this year. How was rain best all around protoss over herO? Losing a 4-3 series doesn't really say if one player is better than the other especially in a volatile matchup like PvP. Life also got outplayed by Rain recently but he's still the better player. Rain "had" been better across all matchups prior to that disaster earlier this week. In fact aligulac actually shows the change where herO just overtook him. Rain won against Life. Otherwise this year he lost against every top player. His next best wins are Classic and DRG, two guys that are near to irrelevant at the top competition right now. His losses are to Rogue, Soulkey, Dream, Dark, Soulkey again, and even lost to players like Gumiho and Impact. Anytime he is up against a somewhat bigger name he loses aside from the 2-1 against Life. He is not up there with the best right now.
Rain has been my favourite player ever since he changed the WoL PvP matchup.
I have always considered him as top three in the world.
Now, however, I must agree with you. He is no longer a top tier player. Does he have the skill to be? Yes. But does he have the ABILITY to? No. It is not evident in his play.
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Elentos
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On February 28 2015 05:20 cheekymonkey wrote:
fuuuck...... how did maru not get out..
PartinG bombarded him with cheese, Maru's forces were not ready for this and died from allergic reactions.
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Maru 
At least herO made it out.
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