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![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/2/27/2015_StarCraft_II_StarLeague_Logo.jpeg) Thursday, Feb 26 9:30am GMT (GMT+00:00)http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2015_StarCraft_II_StarLeague_Season_1/Main_Event TL Preview
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(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Dear vs Life Game 2?★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (6) 55% ★- Do not see this game no matter what (3) 27% ★★★- Good game (1) 9% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 9% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% 11 total votes Your vote: Recommend Dear vs Life Game 2? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Dear vs Life Game 3?★★★- Good game (5) 71% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2) 29% ★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 7 total votes Your vote: Recommend Dear vs Life Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Dear vs Life Game 4?★★★★- Highly recommended game (7) 54% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (4) 31% ★★★- Good game (1) 8% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1) 8% ★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% 13 total votes Your vote: Recommend Dear vs Life Game 4? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Dear vs Life Game 5?★★★- Good game (4) 57% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (2) 29% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 14% ★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% 7 total votes Your vote: Recommend Dear vs Life Game 5? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Dream vs Super Game 1?★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (8) 67% ★- Do not see this game no matter what (2) 17% ★★★- Good game (1) 8% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 8% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 12 total votes Your vote: Recommend Dream vs Super Game 1? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Dream vs Super Game 2?★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (9) 82% ★- Do not see this game no matter what (1) 9% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 9% ★★★- Good game (0) 0% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% 11 total votes Your vote: Recommend Dream vs Super Game 2? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Dream vs Super Game 3?★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (7) 78% ★- Do not see this game no matter what (1) 11% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 11% ★★★- Good game (0) 0% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% 9 total votes Your vote: Recommend Dream vs Super Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Dream vs Super Game 4?★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4) 57% ★- Do not see this game no matter what (2) 29% ★★★- Good game (1) 14% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 7 total votes Your vote: Recommend Dream vs Super Game 4? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Dream vs Super Game 5?★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3) 38% ★- Do not see this game no matter what (2) 25% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2) 25% ★★★- Good game (1) 13% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% 8 total votes Your vote: Recommend Dream vs Super Game 5? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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your Country52797 Posts
Poll: Head?Life (34) 72% Dear (13) 28% 47 total votes Your vote: Head? (Vote): Dear
(Vote): Life
Poll: Heart?Life (33) 63% Dear (19) 37% 52 total votes Your vote: Heart? (Vote): Dear
(Vote): Life
Poll: Head?Dream (26) 74% Super (9) 26% 35 total votes Your vote: Head? (Vote): Dream
(Vote): Super
Poll: Heart?Dream (23) 66% Super (12) 34% 35 total votes Your vote: Heart? (Vote): Dream
(Vote): Super
On February 26 2015 11:50 Die4Ever wrote:WCS Predictor 2015  Life vs  Dear in 0m 0s in StarLeague Season 1 quarterfinals. Life is at 99.53% Blizzcon Chances. 57.88% of the time they win this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 99.97%. 42.12% of the time they lose this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 98.92%. Dear is at 52.04% Blizzcon Chances. 42.12% of the time they win this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 72.19%. 57.88% of the time they lose this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 37.37%. Super vs  Dream in 0m 0s in StarLeague Season 1 quarterfinals. Super is at 44.57% Blizzcon Chances. 44.52% of the time they win this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 64.1%. 55.48% of the time they lose this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 28.91%. Dream is at 50.65% Blizzcon Chances. 55.48% of the time they win this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 66.98%. 44.52% of the time they lose this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 30.29%. StarLeague Season 1 Winning Chances Maru has a 32.54% chance to win ----going from 99.1% to 99.99% if they get 1st, or 99.47% if they get 2nd. Life has a 21.53% chance to win ----going from 99.53% to 100% if they get 1st, or 99.99% if they get 2nd. Stats has a 21.07% chance to win ----going from 69.96% to 93.74% if they get 1st, or 72.31% if they get 2nd. Dear has a 9.08% chance to win ----going from 52.04% to 95.26% if they get 1st, or 74.22% if they get 2nd. Dream has a 8.64% chance to win ----going from 50.65% to 96.89% if they get 1st, or 72.35% if they get 2nd. Super has a 7.13% chance to win ----going from 44.57% to 95.05% if they get 1st, or 68.55% if they get 2nd.
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
Life dual championships hype
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I cannot foresee Life losing this, but anything is possible, especially this deep in a tournament.
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either dream or super wins nssl
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On February 25 2015 22:29 Zealously wrote:
Life dual championships hype
he loses in semis here and ro8 gsl
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rofl, dear wont win
dream super will be a 3-2 either way
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On February 26 2015 00:44 Cricketer12 wrote:
either dream or super wins nssl
You realize that they are the two least likely players to win this, right? d:
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On February 26 2015 00:55 OtherWorld wrote:You realize that they are the two least likely players to win this, right? d:
lol good joke
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On February 25 2015 22:29 Zealously wrote:
Life dual championships hype
The New Zerg Bonjwa
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United Kingdom31935 Posts
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I'm worried for Life's ZvP
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Life 3-0 Dear. No idea for the other one, Dream looked okay in TvP today but Rain played so awful... I'll go with Dream 3-2 anyway, though I know Super is good.
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Let's go Dear and Dream! Would be sick to see either of them take home the gold. And if Life or Super win, that's pretty cool too.
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Super Life to advance. Life will win easily while Super will win 3-2.
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On February 26 2015 01:26 Alchemik wrote:
I'm worried for Life's ZvP
Me too
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On February 26 2015 04:03 Errormx wrote:Me too
after what he did to san at blizzcon, I will be very surprised if life loses a zvp for awhile to anyone other than stats
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On February 26 2015 04:04 Cricketer12 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 04:03 Errormx wrote:On February 26 2015 01:26 Alchemik wrote:
I'm worried for Life's ZvP Me too after what he did to san at blizzcon, I will be very surprised if life loses a zvp for awhile to anyone other than stats
San ain't no good anymore. You gotta get used to that. Life's ZvP is reliant on aggression (he seems to suck at SH too), and thus Dear might expect it and anticipate, but as long as Life vetoes Catalenna and Dear doesn't play 3base Blink PvZ herO-style I think Life's fine.
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On February 26 2015 04:07 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 04:04 Cricketer12 wrote:On February 26 2015 04:03 Errormx wrote:On February 26 2015 01:26 Alchemik wrote:
I'm worried for Life's ZvP Me too after what he did to san at blizzcon, I will be very surprised if life loses a zvp for awhile to anyone other than stats San ain't no good anymore. You gotta get used to that. Life's ZvP is reliant on aggression (he seems to suck at SH too), and thus Dear might expect it and anticipate, but as long as Life vetoes Catalenna and Dear doesn't play 3base Blink PvZ herO-style I think Life's fine.
I think Life needs to get Nimbus and Deadwing vetoed and he's fine.
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On February 26 2015 04:08 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 04:07 OtherWorld wrote:On February 26 2015 04:04 Cricketer12 wrote:On February 26 2015 04:03 Errormx wrote:On February 26 2015 01:26 Alchemik wrote:
I'm worried for Life's ZvP Me too after what he did to san at blizzcon, I will be very surprised if life loses a zvp for awhile to anyone other than stats San ain't no good anymore. You gotta get used to that. Life's ZvP is reliant on aggression (he seems to suck at SH too), and thus Dear might expect it and anticipate, but as long as Life vetoes Catalenna and Dear doesn't play 3base Blink PvZ herO-style I think Life's fine. I think Life needs to get Nimbus and Deadwing vetoed and he's fine.
You want to see the "let's headbutt my Roach/hydra force for the whole game against the Protoss army on Catalenna" from Life again? D:
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On February 26 2015 04:07 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 04:04 Cricketer12 wrote:On February 26 2015 04:03 Errormx wrote:On February 26 2015 01:26 Alchemik wrote:
I'm worried for Life's ZvP Me too after what he did to san at blizzcon, I will be very surprised if life loses a zvp for awhile to anyone other than stats San ain't no good anymore. You gotta get used to that. Life's ZvP is reliant on aggression (he seems to suck at SH too), and thus Dear might expect it and anticipate, but as long as Life vetoes Catalenna and Dear doesn't play 3base Blink PvZ herO-style I think Life's fine.
San was never really good, he just did one build, so beating San isn't really indicative of anything
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On February 26 2015 04:28 Alchemik wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 04:07 OtherWorld wrote:On February 26 2015 04:04 Cricketer12 wrote:On February 26 2015 04:03 Errormx wrote:On February 26 2015 01:26 Alchemik wrote:
I'm worried for Life's ZvP Me too after what he did to san at blizzcon, I will be very surprised if life loses a zvp for awhile to anyone other than stats San ain't no good anymore. You gotta get used to that. Life's ZvP is reliant on aggression (he seems to suck at SH too), and thus Dear might expect it and anticipate, but as long as Life vetoes Catalenna and Dear doesn't play 3base Blink PvZ herO-style I think Life's fine. San was never really good, he just did one build, so beating San isn't really indicative of anything
sanjwa is a god
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On February 26 2015 04:28 Alchemik wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 04:07 OtherWorld wrote:On February 26 2015 04:04 Cricketer12 wrote:On February 26 2015 04:03 Errormx wrote:On February 26 2015 01:26 Alchemik wrote:
I'm worried for Life's ZvP Me too after what he did to san at blizzcon, I will be very surprised if life loses a zvp for awhile to anyone other than stats San ain't no good anymore. You gotta get used to that. Life's ZvP is reliant on aggression (he seems to suck at SH too), and thus Dear might expect it and anticipate, but as long as Life vetoes Catalenna and Dear doesn't play 3base Blink PvZ herO-style I think Life's fine. San was never really good, he just did one build, so beating San isn't really indicative of anything
He did block his own nexus with a pylon though. That takes some serious skill, even a Prime player wouldn't have done that.
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United States97276 Posts
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Maybe dream will do less bad tonight.
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I'm seeing a PvP in the semis.
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Telecoms will rule.
![[image loading]](http://theobelisk.net/obelisk/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Crumbsuckers-Life-of-Dreams.jpg)
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Just plain interested in Dear vs Life, I don't think it's the blow out that people are expecting.. but we'll see. Hoping for Super to make it through over Dream, but former teammates.. #dicey.
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Im afraid life will lose 3-0. No mistake im rooting for him but I think Dear will outplay him
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Lol I came to this thread to claim to be the first to announce Dear beating Life but apparently everyone thinks that Oo
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WCS Predictor 2015 Life vs Dear in 0m 0s in StarLeague Season 1 quarterfinals. Life is at 99.53% Blizzcon Chances. 57.88% of the time they win this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 99.97%. 42.12% of the time they lose this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 98.92%. Dear is at 52.04% Blizzcon Chances. 42.12% of the time they win this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 72.19%. 57.88% of the time they lose this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 37.37%. Super vs Dream in 0m 0s in StarLeague Season 1 quarterfinals. Super is at 44.57% Blizzcon Chances. 44.52% of the time they win this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 64.1%. 55.48% of the time they lose this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 28.91%. Dream is at 50.65% Blizzcon Chances. 55.48% of the time they win this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 66.98%. 44.52% of the time they lose this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 30.29%. StarLeague Season 1 Winning Chances Maru has a 32.54% chance to win ----going from 99.1% to 99.99% if they get 1st, or 99.47% if they get 2nd. Life has a 21.53% chance to win ----going from 99.53% to 100% if they get 1st, or 99.99% if they get 2nd. Stats has a 21.07% chance to win ----going from 69.96% to 93.74% if they get 1st, or 72.31% if they get 2nd. Dear has a 9.08% chance to win ----going from 52.04% to 95.26% if they get 1st, or 74.22% if they get 2nd. Dream has a 8.64% chance to win ----going from 50.65% to 96.89% if they get 1st, or 72.35% if they get 2nd. Super has a 7.13% chance to win ----going from 44.57% to 95.05% if they get 1st, or 68.55% if they get 2nd.
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Where dat snitch at?36942 Posts
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This is assuming no players have any practice partners outside their team. Rather bold assumption to make, no?
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On February 26 2015 13:28 Circumstance wrote:This is assuming no players have any practice partners outside their team. Rather bold assumption to make, no?
Oh, I didn't read the list very carefully and figured SeeKeR knew something we didn't ><
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On February 26 2015 13:28 Circumstance wrote:This is assuming no players have any practice partners outside their team. Rather bold assumption to make, no?
agreed. unless things have drastically changed a lot of players just practice with their friends
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On February 26 2015 13:29 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 13:28 Circumstance wrote:This is assuming no players have any practice partners outside their team. Rather bold assumption to make, no? agreed. unless things have drastically changed a lot of players just practice with their friends
People do make connections of convenience, such as Axiom's former practice arrangement with the Woongjin Stars and their current one with Dead Pixels. Who knows who might be working with the residents of the Biscuit Base or any number of people we had assumed were long retired?
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On February 26 2015 10:47 Nebuchad wrote:
Lol I came to this thread to claim to be the first to announce Dear beating Life but apparently everyone thinks that Oo
Of course dude, all the comments are about Dear beating Life easily, or even the poll reflect that clearly.
Everyone thinks that.
Everyone.
But yeah, i have a bad feeling for life, he's gonna need some perfect play if he want to play that :/
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It would be so sick if Life and Maru advanced to the finals of each GSL and NSSL.
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Canada11355 Posts
Wait people are doubting my boy life?
Stop that.
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On February 26 2015 13:47 tournier wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 10:47 Nebuchad wrote:
Lol I came to this thread to claim to be the first to announce Dear beating Life but apparently everyone thinks that Oo Of course dude, all the comments are about Dear beating Life easily, or even the poll reflect that clearly. Everyone thinks that. Everyone. But yeah, i have a bad feeling for life, he's gonna need some perfect play if he want to play that :/
Sorry, next time I will say "six people on the same page" instead of "everyone" so that the wording police leaves me alone
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Anyone know maps / order?
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On February 26 2015 10:47 Nebuchad wrote:
Lol I came to this thread to claim to be the first to announce Dear beating Life but apparently everyone thinks that Oo
Haha
no
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I'm interested to see what happens if Dear uses an oracle into fast third. It worked well for herO against Life, even though Life knew what he was up against. I wonder if he'll have a different response to it now or if he'll just resort to trying to win before it happens like he did vs herO.
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Where dat snitch at?36942 Posts
On February 26 2015 13:28 Circumstance wrote:This is assuming no players have any practice partners outside their team. Rather bold assumption to make, no?
Of course these players are going to have practice partners outside of their respective teams. I was just saying this is who they have as practice partners internally. 
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Early OP hype !
I hope Dream will still be focused for today's matches, despite yesterday's losses.
Anyway, I like both Life and Dear (and I'm terran, so I have to like Dream too), so I don't know who to root for.
As long as Super doesn't go through, I'm happy I guess !
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On February 26 2015 16:50 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 10:47 Nebuchad wrote:
Lol I came to this thread to claim to be the first to announce Dear beating Life but apparently everyone thinks that Oo Haha no
Well, according to the polls the dream/super match is more one-sided than the Life/Dear match now.
Plus I liquebetted for Life so Dear's chances of winning are really quite good at the moment.
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51451 Posts
This is where Dear and Dream win and everyone just goes WTF.
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On February 26 2015 17:39 Pandemona wrote:
This is where Dear and Dream win and everyone just goes WTF.
You mean, where Dear and Super win and everyone just goes WTF ?
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51451 Posts
On February 26 2015 17:41 Ketch wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 17:39 Pandemona wrote:
This is where Dear and Dream win and everyone just goes WTF. You mean, where Dear and Super win and everyone just goes WTF ?
No because i would consider Super the favorite due to how poor and bad Dream played yesterday lol.
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The streams starts at 10.30 CET. TL calendar should be fixed very soon.
Edit : Done
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Dear is going to beat Life tonight..I have insider info...My wife is Korean and she knows a girl who has a friend who owns a husky dog that goes to the same grooming service in seoul as the dog owned by Life's cousin. And apparently yesterday Life had a small hangnail on his left hand pinky finger that affected his ability to make control groups.
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On February 26 2015 18:20 AxiomBlurr wrote:
Dear is going to beat Life tonight..I have insider info...My wife is Korean and she knows a girl who has a friend who owns a husky dog that goes to the same grooming service in seoul as the dog owned by Life's cousin. And apparently yesterday Life had a small hangnail on his left hand pinky finger that affected his ability to make control groups.
Control groups? I thought Life just boxed his lings and a-clicked on the minimap somewhere in the opponents base... works often enough for him
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Dear is going to discover pretty soon that Life is cruel. Ask Bambi...
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On February 26 2015 18:34 Serimek wrote:
Dear's clothes :D
He's so tiny in them
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Let's go Life, time to show who's boss. 
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I like Life but I hate KT. My poor heart is rent asunder
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This is not the first KT-match for Life right? I have seen him active in KT-outfit before, or not?
Edit: ah his GSL group on 13 feb was 1 day after his switch on 11 feb
Edit2: GSL group B was 13 not 12 feb
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On February 26 2015 18:36 Heartland wrote:
I like Life but I hate KT. My poor heart is rent asunder
I mean KT zergs can at least win championships so there's that.
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On February 26 2015 18:37 Ketch wrote:
This is not the first KT-match for Life right? I have seen him active in KT-outfit before, or not?
Yeah he played in the GSL 2 days after joining KT.
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On February 26 2015 18:37 Ketch wrote:
This is not the first KT-match for Life right? I have seen him active in KT-outfit before, or not?
he dismantled his GSL group while on KT
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On February 26 2015 18:37 Ketch wrote:
This is not the first KT-match for Life right? I have seen him active in KT-outfit before, or not?
GSL group B ?
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Czech Republic12128 Posts
Dear, I dare you to fail the Protoss race! You. Have. To. Win.
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On February 26 2015 18:39 Heartland wrote:
will anyone LR?
I can if Templar isn't
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god my odd sleeping schedule kind of worked out for me i guess.
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On February 26 2015 18:40 Ej_ wrote:I can if Templar isn't
that'd be great
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Hoping for Life and Dear!
Come on, want to see some protoss winning after awful yesterday!
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Super didn't look too hot vs jjakji the other day. I say Dream takes this one 3-1.
And Life will SouLcrush Dear. 3-0.
On February 26 2015 18:43 OsaX Nymloth wrote:
Hoping for Life and Dear!
Come on, want to see some protoss winning after awful yesterday!
It's not a group but two separate matches, so one of them will lose!
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yuck that KT sweater 
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Life's winrate versus Terran is so sick.
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92,31 fucking percent vs Terran, a god
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Czech Republic12128 Posts
Lol, these Stats Both of them have bellow 50 % win rate against the race they are playing today :D :D :D
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On February 26 2015 18:40 Ej_ wrote:I can if Templar isn't
The hero we need. Two days in a row !
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Czech Republic12128 Posts
Map order> Nimbus, Catallena, Overgrowth, Deadwing, Foxtrot Labs(Life vetoed KSS, Dear MGR)
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why would you ever ban KSS and leave Deadwing and Nimbus? does he really want to 3hatch before pool that badly?
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[Absolutely off topic : why is it no SlayerS icon anymore in the profile settings ?]
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On February 26 2015 18:47 Serimek wrote:
[Absolutely off topic : why is it no SlayerS icon anymore in the profile settings ?]
Who would want a dead team icon?
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do they still remember how to play on these maps?
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On February 26 2015 18:47 DJHelium wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 18:47 Serimek wrote:
[Absolutely off topic : why is it no SlayerS icon anymore in the profile settings ?] Who would want a dead team icon?
Look at mine ^^
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On February 26 2015 18:48 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
do they still remember how to play on these maps?
Build units. Kill the enemy. They'll remember.
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On February 26 2015 18:48 Serimek wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 18:47 DJHelium wrote:On February 26 2015 18:47 Serimek wrote:
[Absolutely off topic : why is it no SlayerS icon anymore in the profile settings ?] Who would want a dead team icon? Look at mine ^^
Look at mine ^^
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On February 26 2015 18:07 Aeromi wrote:
The streams starts at 10.30 CET. TL calendar should be fixed very soon.
Edit : Done
Dammit. Not this again >.>
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On February 26 2015 18:49 DJHelium wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 18:48 Serimek wrote:On February 26 2015 18:47 DJHelium wrote:On February 26 2015 18:47 Serimek wrote:
[Absolutely off topic : why is it no SlayerS icon anymore in the profile settings ?] Who would want a dead team icon? Look at mine ^^ Look at mine ^^
Ah Ah !
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On February 26 2015 18:44 Serimek wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 18:40 Ej_ wrote:On February 26 2015 18:39 Heartland wrote:
will anyone LR? I can if Templar isn't The hero we need. Two days in a row !
Someone build this man a statue !
(seriously, thanks a lot !)
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Life vs Dear game 1 on Nimbus
Life bottom left, Dear top left
Dear gateway, 2 gases+cyber, Life blind 3 hatch no pool with 2nd base on lowground
Life gas before pool
Dear MSC->nexus and probe scout after nexus
Life scouts where Dear is with his OL
Dear stargate
Life metabolic boost, 2 lings, 3 queens
5:00min
Dear WG, oracle, forge in wall
lings try poking in but sentry holds
Dear +1, Life lair+RW@6:30
no spores, oracle with 8 kills
Life adds 2nd gas
Dear 2 more gates and goes up to 4 gases
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On February 26 2015 18:20 AxiomBlurr wrote:
Dear is going to beat Life tonight..I have insider info...My wife is Korean and she knows a girl who has a friend who owns a husky dog that goes to the same grooming service in seoul as the dog owned by Life's cousin. And apparently yesterday Life had a small hangnail on his left hand pinky finger that affected his ability to make control groups.
Quick, how do I change liquibet?
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On February 26 2015 18:51 Ej_ wrote:Life vs Dear game 1 on Nimbus
Life bottom left, Dear top left Dear gateway, 2 gases+cyber, Life blind 3 hatch no pool with 2nd base on lowground Life gas before pool Dear MSC->nexus and probe scout after nexus Life scouts where Dear is with his OL Dear stargate Life metabolic boost, 2 lings, 3 queens 5:00min Dear WG, oracle, forge in wall lings try poking in but sentry holds Dear +1, Life lair+RW@6:30 no spores, oracle with 8 kills Life adds 2nd gas Dear 2 more gates and goes up to 4 gases
7:30
Dear 3rd nexus, twilight, robo
Life goes up to 6 gases, hydra den, roach speed, infestation pit, evo chamber
oracle tries poking again but spore+queens deflect
hive, hydra range
Dear +2 and blink
warp prism+robo bay
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On February 26 2015 18:53 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 18:51 Ej_ wrote:Life vs Dear game 1 on Nimbus
Life bottom left, Dear top left Dear gateway, 2 gases+cyber, Life blind 3 hatch no pool with 2nd base on lowground Life gas before pool Dear MSC->nexus and probe scout after nexus Life scouts where Dear is with his OL Dear stargate Life metabolic boost, 2 lings, 3 queens 5:00min Dear WG, oracle, forge in wall lings try poking in but sentry holds Dear +1, Life lair+RW@6:30 no spores, oracle with 8 kills Life adds 2nd gas Dear 2 more gates and goes up to 4 gases 7:30 Dear 3rd nexus, twilight, robo Life goes up to 6 gases, hydra den, roach speed, infestation pit, evo chamber oracle tries poking again but spore+queens deflect hive, hydra range Dear +2 and blink warp prism+robo bay
10:30
Dear 6 gases, Life +1
Life starts vipers and spines(?)
Life takes a 4th
oracle scouting around for bases, tagged hydras
Dear looking for 4th with prism with zealots but can't find it (it's horziontal to Life's 3rd)
Life moving out with roach/hydra/viper
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dear..
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Yeaahh looking good, easy first game. A sharp and deadly timing!
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He sure aint no 2013 Dear
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Blinding Cloud is so underrated
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Yup, this is the exactly same moment I die on this map if I take so fast 3rd
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On February 26 2015 18:54 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 18:53 Ej_ wrote:On February 26 2015 18:51 Ej_ wrote:Life vs Dear game 1 on Nimbus
Life bottom left, Dear top left Dear gateway, 2 gases+cyber, Life blind 3 hatch no pool with 2nd base on lowground Life gas before pool Dear MSC->nexus and probe scout after nexus Life scouts where Dear is with his OL Dear stargate Life metabolic boost, 2 lings, 3 queens 5:00min Dear WG, oracle, forge in wall lings try poking in but sentry holds Dear +1, Life lair+RW@6:30 no spores, oracle with 8 kills Life adds 2nd gas Dear 2 more gates and goes up to 4 gases 7:30 Dear 3rd nexus, twilight, robo Life goes up to 6 gases, hydra den, roach speed, infestation pit, evo chamber oracle tries poking again but spore+queens deflect hive, hydra range Dear +2 and blink warp prism+robo bay 10:30 Dear 6 gases, Life +1 Life starts vipers and spines(?) Life takes a 4th oracle scouting around for bases, tagged hydras Dear looking for 4th with prism with zealots but can't find it (it's horziontal to Life's 3rd) Life moving out with roach/hydra/viper
189 vs 140
only collo dies, templar archives not ready
3rd nexus dies
197 vs 99
roaches easily defend warp prism at home
"What do you die here, Valdez?"
"eeee"
"You die."
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On February 26 2015 18:56 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 18:54 Ej_ wrote:On February 26 2015 18:53 Ej_ wrote:On February 26 2015 18:51 Ej_ wrote:Life vs Dear game 1 on Nimbus
Life bottom left, Dear top left Dear gateway, 2 gases+cyber, Life blind 3 hatch no pool with 2nd base on lowground Life gas before pool Dear MSC->nexus and probe scout after nexus Life scouts where Dear is with his OL Dear stargate Life metabolic boost, 2 lings, 3 queens 5:00min Dear WG, oracle, forge in wall lings try poking in but sentry holds Dear +1, Life lair+RW@6:30 no spores, oracle with 8 kills Life adds 2nd gas Dear 2 more gates and goes up to 4 gases 7:30 Dear 3rd nexus, twilight, robo Life goes up to 6 gases, hydra den, roach speed, infestation pit, evo chamber oracle tries poking again but spore+queens deflect hive, hydra range Dear +2 and blink warp prism+robo bay 10:30 Dear 6 gases, Life +1 Life starts vipers and spines(?) Life takes a 4th oracle scouting around for bases, tagged hydras Dear looking for 4th with prism with zealots but can't find it (it's horziontal to Life's 3rd) Life moving out with roach/hydra/viper 189 vs 140 only collo dies, templar archives not ready 3rd nexus dies 197 vs 99 roaches easily defend warp prism at home "What do you die here, Valdez?" "eeee" "You die."
Life breaks rocks to the main
maxed roach/hydra rolls over 100 limit of blink stalkers
Dear GGs
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On February 26 2015 18:55 Heartland wrote:
Blinding Cloud is so underrated
We see it being used more and more currently I feel, and rightly so
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to be fair life got lucky but yeah that was one sided.
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Poll: Recommend Dear vs Life Game 1?★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (6) 55% ★★★- Good game (2) 18% ★- Do not see this game no matter what (1) 9% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 9% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 9% 11 total votes Your vote: Recommend Dear vs Life Game 1? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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On February 26 2015 18:55 Heartland wrote:
Blinding Cloud is so underrated
Yeah. And they are considering adding +1 range to it. :L
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On February 26 2015 18:57 Zealously wrote:
Dear ezpz 3-0 amirite
don't underestimate Deadwing
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If Dear is not able to step up his game, it's going to be short...
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On February 26 2015 18:57 dazed25 wrote:Yeah. And they are considering adding +1 range to it. :L
tbf if they want to nerf SH, Zerg could have some usable hive tech that doesn't get rekt by feedback
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On February 26 2015 18:57 dazed25 wrote:Yeah. And they are considering adding +1 range to it. :L
I think there is so much potential for Vipers that we still haven't seen
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This was a really boring game, no attack until the final attack, Life won, game over :/
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On February 26 2015 18:57 The_Templar wrote:Poll: Recommend Dear vs Life Game 1?★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (6) 55% ★★★- Good game (2) 18% ★- Do not see this game no matter what (1) 9% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 9% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 9% 11 total votes Your vote: Recommend Dear vs Life Game 1? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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Wow straight into the next one. No messing from KESPA
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I can LR now Ej_ if you want to stop
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On February 26 2015 18:57 Serimek wrote:
If Dear is not able to step up his game, it's going to be short...
i wouldn't say that game was indicative of a gap between each other's skill.
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On February 26 2015 18:59 The_Templar wrote:
I can LR now Ej_ if you want to stop
ok, hf
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On February 26 2015 18:24 Ketch wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 18:20 AxiomBlurr wrote:
Dear is going to beat Life tonight..I have insider info...My wife is Korean and she knows a girl who has a friend who owns a husky dog that goes to the same grooming service in seoul as the dog owned by Life's cousin. And apparently yesterday Life had a small hangnail on his left hand pinky finger that affected his ability to make control groups. Control groups? I thought Life just boxed his lings and a-clicked on the minimap somewhere in the opponents base... works often enough for him
Also, a-clicking? Seriously? that would give his opponent time to raise his supply depots. Life just move-commands into his opponent's base.
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On February 26 2015 18:59 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 18:57 Serimek wrote:
If Dear is not able to step up his game, it's going to be short... i wouldn't say that game was indicative of a gap between each other's skill.
I mean, Dear misread the game pretty hard though.
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On February 26 2015 18:59 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 18:57 Serimek wrote:
If Dear is not able to step up his game, it's going to be short... i wouldn't say that game was indicative of a gap between each other's skill.
Lol and why not?
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On February 26 2015 19:01 Serimek wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 18:59 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On February 26 2015 18:57 Serimek wrote:
If Dear is not able to step up his game, it's going to be short... i wouldn't say that game was indicative of a gap between each other's skill. I mean, Dear misread the game pretty hard though.
only because he didn't see the hive, doesn't make him a much worse player than Life.
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On February 26 2015 19:02 Keeemy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 18:59 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On February 26 2015 18:57 Serimek wrote:
If Dear is not able to step up his game, it's going to be short... i wouldn't say that game was indicative of a gap between each other's skill. Lol and why not?
Because there's no counter to Tefel's build. It's a strategy that overcomes all.
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2:00
15 hatchery against 15 nexus.
Dear scouts the right way with his probe and Life with his overlord.
Life taking a quick third base.
3:00
Gate + 2 gas for Dear.
Life building a spawning pool.
Cybernetics core for Dear.
4:00
Life getting queens.
Stalker for Dear.
No gas yet for Life.
Life has vision of the cybernetics core with an overlord.
5:00
Stargate for Dear.
Life's overlord moving towards Dear's main mineral line.
Dear getting both assimilators in his natural.
Overlord is sacrificed but the stargate is seen.
Two zerglings are also used as a scout.
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oracle->void ray build from like when Dear was relevant, amirite
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2 more stargates :o
sky tossssssss
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Same build :-D
Life doesn't give a fuck
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On February 26 2015 19:04 Pandemona wrote:
2 more stargates :o
sky tossssssss
roach hydra :D
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On February 26 2015 19:02 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 19:01 Serimek wrote:On February 26 2015 18:59 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On February 26 2015 18:57 Serimek wrote:
If Dear is not able to step up his game, it's going to be short... i wouldn't say that game was indicative of a gap between each other's skill. I mean, Dear misread the game pretty hard though. only because he didn't see the hive, doesn't make him a much worse player than Life.
I'm not saying that. It's just that he'll HAVE to see hive. He can't beat Life in the dark.
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Dear really wants to force super late game.
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On February 26 2015 19:04 Serimek wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 19:02 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On February 26 2015 19:01 Serimek wrote:On February 26 2015 18:59 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On February 26 2015 18:57 Serimek wrote:
If Dear is not able to step up his game, it's going to be short... i wouldn't say that game was indicative of a gap between each other's skill. I mean, Dear misread the game pretty hard though. only because he didn't see the hive, doesn't make him a much worse player than Life. I'm not saying that. It's just that he'll HAVE to see hive. He can't beat Life in the dark.
to Life's credit he did a great job zoning it out with queens and hydras in all corners of his bases.
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On February 26 2015 19:06 Undead1993 wrote:
what is dear doing
Turtle Toss
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I have to go to class, please gloat on my behalf if I'm not back when Life wins
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On February 26 2015 19:06 Undead1993 wrote:
what is dear doing
it's triple stargate voidray->storm, the build you might know from 4v4
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On February 26 2015 19:06 Pandemona wrote:Turtle Toss
he had like 2 sentries 4 zealots against 20 hydras if lifeo nly knew
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On February 26 2015 19:03 The_Templar wrote:2:00 15 hatchery against 15 nexus. Dear scouts the right way with his probe and Life with his overlord. Life taking a quick third base. 3:00 Gate + 2 gas for Dear. Life building a spawning pool. Cybernetics core for Dear. 4:00 Life getting queens. Stalker for Dear. No gas yet for Life. Life has vision of the cybernetics core with an overlord. 5:00 Stargate for Dear. Life's overlord moving towards Dear's main mineral line. Dear getting both assimilators in his natural. Overlord is sacrificed but the stargate is seen. Two zerglings are also used as a scout.
6:00
Oracle is started after zerglings + overlord are cleaned up.
Three spore crawlers for Life.
Dear moves a probe to his third base but has no money.
Two more gateways finishing for Dear.
Void ray for Dear.
7:00 Dear 59 vs Life 61
Lair and roach warren for Life.
Life building an evolution chamber.
The oracle grabs six kills but nearly dies.
Dear starts a forge and his third base.
Zerglings scout the third base from Dear.
Life adding 11 drones.
8:00 Dear 71 vs Life 75
Infestation pit for Life.
Life getting a hydralisk den.
Roach speed and +1 ranged attack being researched by Life.
9:00 Dear 75 vs Life 74
A second void ray finishes.
Two stargates are aleo finishing.
Dear researching +1 air attack and getting more void rays.
Dear only has two sentries and a stalker as gateway units, and three gateways.
10:00 Dear 89 vs Life 108
Dear starts construction of three more gateways.
Hive for Life.
Life massing hydralisks.
Life moves out with a modest hydralisk force.
Charge starts for Dear.
Dear getting more void rays and a templar archives.
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Hahahaha Life is just rolling over Dear. Ezpz.
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On February 26 2015 19:06 Pandemona wrote:Turtle Toss
Turtle Loss maybe
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Lol Dear.. That was awful.
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Dirty 3-base zerg, that Life guy
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Wow Dear thinks he will have 15 minutes of Life afk'ing so he can build his army :')
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It's perfectly fine to go VRs vs hydras, but you have to micro behind ff's and walls before you get up your VR count
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What an incredible series....
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this looked like master vs platin wtf
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Where's Olli to tell us that 3hatch before pool is imba
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that's like watching a diamond player go up against high master one attack game over
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I thought people were saying Dear would win? lol
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And again >< No attack until 12 minute mark, game over with 1 attack. These games
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Entire RO8 to be 3-0's maybe!
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On February 26 2015 19:07 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 19:03 The_Templar wrote:2:00 15 hatchery against 15 nexus. Dear scouts the right way with his probe and Life with his overlord. Life taking a quick third base. 3:00 Gate + 2 gas for Dear. Life building a spawning pool. Cybernetics core for Dear. 4:00 Life getting queens. Stalker for Dear. No gas yet for Life. Life has vision of the cybernetics core with an overlord. 5:00 Stargate for Dear. Life's overlord moving towards Dear's main mineral line. Dear getting both assimilators in his natural. Overlord is sacrificed but the stargate is seen. Two zerglings are also used as a scout. 6:00 Oracle is started after zerglings + overlord are cleaned up. Three spore crawlers for Life. Dear moves a probe to his third base but has no money. Two more gateways finishing for Dear. Void ray for Dear. 7:00 Dear 59 vs Life 61 Lair and roach warren for Life. Life building an evolution chamber. The oracle grabs six kills but nearly dies. Dear starts a forge and his third base. Zerglings scout the third base from Dear. Life adding 11 drones. 8:00 Dear 71 vs Life 75 Infestation pit for Life. Life getting a hydralisk den. Roach speed and +1 ranged attack being researched by Life. 9:00 Dear 75 vs Life 74 A second void ray finishes. Two stargates are aleo finishing. Dear researching +1 air attack and getting more void rays. Dear only has two sentries and a stalker as gateway units, and three gateways. 10:00 Dear 89 vs Life 108 Dear starts construction of three more gateways. Hive for Life. Life massing hydralisks. Life moves out with a modest hydralisk force. Charge starts for Dear. Dear getting more void rays and a templar archives.
11:00 Dear 124 vs Life 173
Life has lots of hydralisks and is getting more roaches.
120 vs 60 army supply.
Life attacks. Void rays are revealed and two are abducted.
High templars charge into battle and morph into an archon immediately.
Life breaks into the natural after killing everything except for half the void rays and finishes Dear's army off.
More roaches flood into the natural.
13:00 Dear 71 vs Life 197
Dear GG's!
Life takes a 2-0 lead!
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Poll: Recommend Dear vs Life Game 2?★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (6) 55% ★- Do not see this game no matter what (3) 27% ★★★- Good game (1) 9% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 9% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% 11 total votes Your vote: Recommend Dear vs Life Game 2? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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Dear plz you cant tech and take your 3rd gasses vs that -.-
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Stork is like: "Sorry m8, it's Life you're playing against."
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On February 26 2015 19:08 Die4Ever wrote:
I thought people were saying Dear would win? lol
no way they were serious
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Dear just not putting up a fight at all
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On February 26 2015 19:08 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
So unlucky T.T
LOL dude seriously.
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Dear just go back to All Ins pleaseeee. Channel your inner 'toss
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On February 26 2015 19:09 Liquid`Snute wrote:
66drone zerg HYPE
Tefel has been right all along.
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On February 26 2015 19:09 Liquid`Snute wrote:
66drone zerg HYPE
lol xD
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On February 26 2015 19:09 Keeemy wrote:LOL dude seriously.
scouted a hive after his stargates finished. you could tell he was like, "oh......... fuck"
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On February 26 2015 19:09 Keeemy wrote:LOL dude seriously.
Why do you keep saying that? Unlucky? Against the same build twice in a row? Dear just seems clueless imo.
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12min 200 roach+hydra+viper ezpz
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God Life's build order advantage too stronk in both games.
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On February 26 2015 19:09 The_Templar wrote:Poll: Recommend Dear vs Life Game 2?★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (6) 55% ★- Do not see this game no matter what (3) 27% ★★★- Good game (1) 9% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 9% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% 11 total votes Your vote: Recommend Dear vs Life Game 2? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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I could see Dear winning a game vs a ling all-in or something, but no way he comes back to win this match.
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On February 26 2015 19:10 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 19:09 Keeemy wrote:On February 26 2015 19:08 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
So unlucky T.T LOL dude seriously. scouted a hive after his stargates finished. you could tell he was like, "oh......... fuck"
that is when you fly around with your void rays and the msc to snipe the hive and recall
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On February 26 2015 19:10 dazed25 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 19:09 Keeemy wrote:On February 26 2015 19:08 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
So unlucky T.T LOL dude seriously. Why do you keep saying that? Unlucky? Against the same build twice in a row? Dear just seems clueless imo.
He's been reacting horribly in both games. In game one he didn't send a single hallucination and decided to blindly tech heavily instead of pressuring with his blink stalkers, in game two he just did exactly what you aren't supposed to do vs a roach hydra max
On February 26 2015 19:10 Motlu wrote:
God Life's build order advantage too stronk in both games.
There's no build order advantage, Dear is just making horrible decisions
On February 26 2015 19:11 graNite wrote:
that is when you fly around with your void rays and the msc to snipe the hive and recall
You need the Zerg's timing to hit like 2-3 minutes later for that to be viable, Dear's 8 void rays just completed when that timing hit.
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Life is definitely playing better than Dear, I'm just saying that it's kind of unfortunate choice of strategies for Dear.
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On February 26 2015 18:20 AxiomBlurr wrote:
Dear is going to beat Life tonight..I have insider info...My wife is Korean and she knows a girl who has a friend who owns a husky dog that goes to the same grooming service in seoul as the dog owned by Life's cousin. And apparently yesterday Life had a small hangnail on his left hand pinky finger that affected his ability to make control groups.
xD
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Well Dear is not totally wrong, it's just that Life hits him one good minute before he s ready to deal with this.
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PvZ
2Base, 70% win rate
3Base, 30% win rate
Dear is doing it wrong.
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Brendan keeps saying "i-Dear" and not idea
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On February 26 2015 19:11 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Life is definitely playing better than Dear, I'm just saying that it's kind of unfortunate choice of strategies for Dear.
From my experience, every choice but +2 blink timing is unfortunate
unless it's carriers, carriers are god-like
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On February 26 2015 19:11 graNite wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 19:10 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On February 26 2015 19:09 Keeemy wrote:On February 26 2015 19:08 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
So unlucky T.T LOL dude seriously. scouted a hive after his stargates finished. you could tell he was like, "oh......... fuck" that is when you fly around with your void rays and the msc to snipe the hive and recall
This is what I was waiting all game long.
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On February 26 2015 19:11 graNite wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 19:10 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On February 26 2015 19:09 Keeemy wrote:On February 26 2015 19:08 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
So unlucky T.T LOL dude seriously. scouted a hive after his stargates finished. you could tell he was like, "oh......... fuck" that is when you fly around with your void rays and the msc to snipe the hive and recall
there were already a lot of hydras out i think, sniping the hive woulda been too hard imo
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This "Tefel build" reminds me a bit of Stephano's roach build.
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I missed all the fun. its already 2:0
how was it??
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On February 26 2015 19:13 SorrowShine wrote:
I missed all the fun. its already 2:0
how was it??
roach/hydra/viper > Dear
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On February 26 2015 19:13 SorrowShine wrote:
I missed all the fun. its already 2:0
how was it??
Boring.
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On February 26 2015 19:13 SorrowShine wrote:
I missed all the fun. its already 2:0
how was it??
Awful
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Teo this isn't the wow thread what are you doing here :3
#PashurrrnRestored?
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Life looks so bored right now.
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"He'll get there in three months/six months/a year/three years"
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On February 26 2015 19:14 Pandemona wrote:
Teo this isn't the wow thread what are you doing here :3
#PashurrrnRestored?
I think he is SC2 staff, so he is interested in SC2. Could be wrong though 
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And since when life is on KT Rolster??
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well i guess the two base nerve has been ticked.
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On February 26 2015 19:14 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 19:14 Pandemona wrote:
Teo this isn't the wow thread what are you doing here :3
#PashurrrnRestored? I think he is SC2 staff, so he is interested in SC2. Could be wrong though
Yeah he made some protoss build order stuff this one time, then he came to the dark side of the WoW forum and hasn't left 
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These casters talking out of their asses. Stats wouldn't be replaced unless he's playing in individual leagues. He is KT's second best player atm. Going to have to be between TY and Flash and I think they will feature Flash more since he has a higher ceiling of play.
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Ok this is a nice build order Dear :')
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On February 26 2015 19:15 SorrowShine wrote:
And since when life is on KT Rolster??
Joined 2 weeks ago
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2:00
Life opens pool/hatchery.
Dear starts with a gateway and both assimilators.
3:00
Dear expands and Life takes a fast third.
Both players try to scout.
Sentry for Dear.
4:00
Dear adds two more gateways.
Scouting probe from Dear gets back home and barely survives being chased by zerglings.
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Gateways #4,5 at Dear's front door.
Spore crawlers for Life despite no stargate.
Dear hiding a pylon.
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On February 26 2015 19:15 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 19:14 The_Templar wrote:On February 26 2015 19:14 Pandemona wrote:
Teo this isn't the wow thread what are you doing here :3
#PashurrrnRestored? I think he is SC2 staff, so he is interested in SC2. Could be wrong though Yeah he made some protoss build order stuff this one time, then he came to the dark side of the WoW forum and hasn't left
I can still watch SC2!
Besides, note how as i start posting, Dear starts 2basing. Coincidence? I don't think so.
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This is what I get for being late, I guess.
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On February 26 2015 19:16 Teoita wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 19:15 Pandemona wrote:On February 26 2015 19:14 The_Templar wrote:On February 26 2015 19:14 Pandemona wrote:
Teo this isn't the wow thread what are you doing here :3
#PashurrrnRestored? I think he is SC2 staff, so he is interested in SC2. Could be wrong though Yeah he made some protoss build order stuff this one time, then he came to the dark side of the WoW forum and hasn't left I can still watch SC2! Besides, note how as i start posting, Dear starts 2basing. Coincidence? I don't think so.
Yeah rofl. He defo channeling his inner Teo XD
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On February 26 2015 19:16 Phredxor wrote:Don't know why Dear didn't just 2 base from the start
Life was opening 3 hatch no pool so there's that, now he went for pool first and no gas before 3rd
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Not sure why he tried to break that.... just contain and expand/tech
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On February 26 2015 19:16 dazed25 wrote:
These casters talking out of their asses. Stats wouldn't be replaced unless he's playing in individual leagues. He is KT's second best player atm. Going to have to be between TY and Flash and I think they will feature Flash more since he has a higher ceiling of play.
i mean are you the KT coach? we have no fucking clue what they'll do
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Meh this isn't that bad for Life.
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Why is Dear allowing that third to go up again immediately... ? Oh now he is going again
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I hope this is like that game vs SD when Life lost the 3rd and beat robo tech protoss with burrow movement roaches
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On February 26 2015 19:17 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 19:16 Phredxor wrote:Don't know why Dear didn't just 2 base from the start Life was opening 3 hatch no pool so there's that, now he went for pool first and no gas before 3rd
he went 3 hatch because dear went nexus first
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Hehe now he's soultraining, it's like i'm coaching him.
edit: damn it dear you disappoint me
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On February 26 2015 19:18 Ej_ wrote:
I hope this is like that game vs SD when Life lost the 3rd and beat robo tech protoss with burrow movement roaches
Was that a Dreamhack?
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On February 26 2015 19:19 Circumstance wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 19:18 Ej_ wrote:
I hope this is like that game vs SD when Life lost the 3rd and beat robo tech protoss with burrow movement roaches Was that a Dreamhack?
yes
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On February 26 2015 19:16 Circumstance wrote:
This is what I get for being late, I guess.
WCS games spoiled you?
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Gotta love the no healthbars there...
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I don't get it... Is everyone able to watch it? Whole Twitch website is down for me...
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On February 26 2015 19:16 The_Templar wrote:2:00 Life opens pool/hatchery. Dear starts with a gateway and both assimilators. 3:00 Dear expands and Life takes a fast third. Both players try to scout. Sentry for Dear. 4:00 Dear adds two more gateways. Scouting probe from Dear gets back home and barely survives being chased by zerglings. 5:00 Gateways #4,5 at Dear's front door. Spore crawlers for Life despite no stargate. Dear hiding a pylon.
6:00
Dear moving out.
Three spine crawlers for Life.
Roach warren still in production.
7:00 Dear 63 vs Life 47
Life barely has more drones than Dear and no units...
Dear kills the third base almost for free. Zerglings kill a small number of reinforcements.
Life adds even more spine crawlers.
Dear attacks into the natural before two spine crawlers are finished but gets repelled.
Life tries to counterattack but a full wall and a sentry are there.
9:00 Dear 64 vs Life 73
Life has ten roaches out now.
Dear getting a robotics facility.
Dear on 43 drones.
Burrow and roach speed on the way for Life.
Life has some zerglings outside of Dear's natural.
Life repositioning some spine crawlers and re-taking his third.
Evolution chamber for Life.
10:00 Dear 82 vs Life 84
Hallucinated phoenix sees Life's third being rebuilt before it finishes.
Immortal for Dear.
Dear starts a twilight council.
Life pokes with roaches and reveals burrow.
Hydralisk den for Life.
Dear taking a third.
Life researches burrow movement.
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On February 26 2015 19:19 Teoita wrote:
Hehe now he's soultraining, it's like i'm coaching him.
edit: damn it dear you disappoint me
Haha TT poor guy
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Just tuned in. How were the first 2 games ? Typical life lings ?
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Life should make 2 ultralisks and then muta switch vs 20 immortals
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Life's in a tricky position now
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On February 26 2015 19:20 Shinta) wrote:
I don't get it... Is everyone able to watch it? Whole Twitch website is down for me...
Works fine for me. But try Azubu if Twitch doesn't work!
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Yeah Life can't stop that many blink stalkers. GG onto the next game
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On February 26 2015 19:21 Heartland wrote:
Life's in a tricky position now
Yeah I think he accidentally countered the triggerattack
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Hmm nice fake 3th by Dear, Life was getting a bit too greedy
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Did the bad Dear show up today?
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Nice all-ins from Dear, very wp. Looked totally different this game!
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On February 26 2015 19:22 GumBa wrote:
Did the bad Dear show up today?
the worst one yet
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On February 26 2015 19:20 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 19:19 Teoita wrote:
Hehe now he's soultraining, it's like i'm coaching him.
edit: damn it dear you disappoint me Haha TT poor guy
It's fine he didn't make more than like 48 probes and won with stalker/immortal. I can live with it.
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On February 26 2015 19:22 GumBa wrote:
Did the bad Dear show up today?
Yeah game 1 and 2 for sure. He won game 3 though so maybe he will show us good Dear now
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On February 26 2015 19:20 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 19:16 The_Templar wrote:2:00 Life opens pool/hatchery. Dear starts with a gateway and both assimilators. 3:00 Dear expands and Life takes a fast third. Both players try to scout. Sentry for Dear. 4:00 Dear adds two more gateways. Scouting probe from Dear gets back home and barely survives being chased by zerglings. 5:00 Gateways #4,5 at Dear's front door. Spore crawlers for Life despite no stargate. Dear hiding a pylon. 6:00 Dear moving out. Three spine crawlers for Life. Roach warren still in production. 7:00 Dear 63 vs Life 47 Life barely has more drones than Dear and no units... Dear kills the third base almost for free. Zerglings kill a small number of reinforcements. Life adds even more spine crawlers. Dear attacks into the natural before two spine crawlers are finished but gets repelled. Life tries to counterattack but a full wall and a sentry are there. 9:00 Dear 64 vs Life 73 Life has ten roaches out now. Dear getting a robotics facility. Dear on 43 drones. Burrow and roach speed on the way for Life. Life has some zerglings outside of Dear's natural. Life repositioning some spine crawlers and re-taking his third. Evolution chamber for Life. 10:00 Dear 82 vs Life 84 Hallucinated phoenix sees Life's third being rebuilt before it finishes. Immortal for Dear. Dear starts a twilight council. Life pokes with roaches and reveals burrow. Hydralisk den for Life. Dear taking a third. Life researches burrow movement.
12:00 Dear 110 vs Life 115
Life forces a cancel on the third while threatening the natural.
Dear re-taking his third base.
Life is on 52 drones but is getting more now.
Hydralisk range for Life.
+2 and blink are being researched for Dear.
Life starts an infestation pit.
13:00 Dear 121 vs Life 142
Life darting around with two groups of roaches but doing almost no damage.
Spire and hive start for Life.
Two more gateways for Dear.
Hydralisks + speed for Life.
14:00 Dear 144 vs Life 156
Life is losing a few roaches for free now.
Dear moving out and chasing down roaches for free.
Dear moves up the ramp leading towards Life's natural and kills some hydralisks.
Life retreats, Dear chases Life's army to his third.
Drones are pulled.
Life trying to get more roaches but his army is broken easily.
46 drones die.
Life GG's!
Dear brings the series back to 1-2!
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Poll: Recommend Dear vs Life Game 3?★★★- Good game (5) 71% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2) 29% ★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 7 total votes Your vote: Recommend Dear vs Life Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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On February 26 2015 19:23 graNite wrote:
can someone tell me what dear is drinking?
Vintage soO tears.
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On February 26 2015 19:23 Teoita wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 19:20 Pandemona wrote:On February 26 2015 19:19 Teoita wrote:
Hehe now he's soultraining, it's like i'm coaching him.
edit: damn it dear you disappoint me Haha TT poor guy It's fine he didn't make more than like 48 probes and won with stalker/immortal. I can live with it.
Rofl. Hype. Still counts as a 2 base play :3
Dear confirmed as abusing starfall? :3
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Look at that stretching and smiling from life. I'm pretty sure he threw that game just to make things more interesting.
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Trigger Attack too stronk.
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Deadwing now, it can go to the match point
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are they making things up about coaches and training again?
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On February 26 2015 19:24 hborrgg wrote:
Look at that stretching and smiling from life. I'm pretty sure he threw that game just to make things more interesting.
I'm pretty sure he'd rather win 3-0.
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On February 26 2015 19:24 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 19:23 Teoita wrote:On February 26 2015 19:20 Pandemona wrote:On February 26 2015 19:19 Teoita wrote:
Hehe now he's soultraining, it's like i'm coaching him.
edit: damn it dear you disappoint me Haha TT poor guy It's fine he didn't make more than like 48 probes and won with stalker/immortal. I can live with it. Rofl. Hype. Still counts as a 2 base play :3 Dear confirmed as abusing starfall? :3
Wrong game, WoW thread that way >>>>
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On February 26 2015 19:24 Ej_ wrote:
Deadwing now, it can go to the match point
They showed map stats before series, Life is 4-1 on Deadwing, though probably not all vs P. Dear was 1-1 I think, I don't recall.
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Carn? The dude from Fnatic?
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On February 26 2015 19:11 Teoita wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 19:10 dazed25 wrote:On February 26 2015 19:09 Keeemy wrote:On February 26 2015 19:08 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
So unlucky T.T LOL dude seriously. Why do you keep saying that? Unlucky? Against the same build twice in a row? Dear just seems clueless imo. He's been reacting horribly in both games. In game one he didn't send a single hallucination and decided to blindly tech heavily instead of pressuring with his blink stalkers, in game two he just did exactly what you aren't supposed to do vs a roach hydra max Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 19:10 Motlu wrote:
God Life's build order advantage too stronk in both games. There's no build order advantage, Dear is just making horrible decisions Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 19:11 graNite wrote:
that is when you fly around with your void rays and the msc to snipe the hive and recall You need the Zerg's timing to hit like 2-3 minutes later for that to be viable, Dear's 8 void rays just completed when that timing hit.
I don't play the style Dear did in game 2, but I fail to see how it isn't a build order disadvantage given how good hydras and vipers are vs stargate units. What should Dear have done in your opinion?
Edit: Build order disadvantage not loss.
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On February 26 2015 19:25 Teoita wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 19:24 Pandemona wrote:On February 26 2015 19:23 Teoita wrote:On February 26 2015 19:20 Pandemona wrote:On February 26 2015 19:19 Teoita wrote:
Hehe now he's soultraining, it's like i'm coaching him.
edit: damn it dear you disappoint me Haha TT poor guy It's fine he didn't make more than like 48 probes and won with stalker/immortal. I can live with it. Rofl. Hype. Still counts as a 2 base play :3 Dear confirmed as abusing starfall? :3 Wrong game, WoW thread that way >>>>
Hahaha :D
I spam u saink on skype a sec.
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Were they talking about the French cArn ? Is he still in Korea ?
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Rooting for Dear so Life can attend Katowice ;(
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On February 26 2015 19:22 DJHelium wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 19:20 Shinta) wrote:
I don't get it... Is everyone able to watch it? Whole Twitch website is down for me... Works fine for me. But try Azubu if Twitch doesn't work!
yeah never worked, so I'm watching azubu now.
GOGO DEAR!!
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On February 26 2015 19:26 kottbullar wrote:
Rooting for Dear so Life can attend Katowice ;(
yeah but double championship hype
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Cannon rush action incoming
E: Dear you disappoint me
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On February 26 2015 19:25 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 19:24 hborrgg wrote:
Look at that stretching and smiling from life. I'm pretty sure he threw that game just to make things more interesting. I'm pretty sure he'd rather win 3-0.
You and your logic win this time. >.>
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On February 26 2015 19:26 Serimek wrote:
Were they talking about the French cArn ? Is he still in Korea ?
Some say he went to go play Dota.
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Oh wait Katowice lines up with this final or something? :o
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2:00
Dear puts a pylon at his natural and scouts Life first.
Life opens hatchery first.
Dear responds with nexus first because cannon rush is too viable.
Gas/pool Life.
3:00
Forge for Dear.
Dear starts a gateway/gas.
4:00
Cybernetics core for Dear.
Sentry for Dear.
Lair for Life.
Life not taking a third base yet, which Dear sees.
5:00
Stargate for Dear.
Life is... still on two bases.
Life sending a drone to the horizontal spawn.
Life knows of the stargate.
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On February 26 2015 19:29 Circumstance wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 19:26 Serimek wrote:
Were they talking about the French cArn ? Is he still in Korea ? Some say he went to go play Dota.
I wonder how he survived trying hard since 2010 in Korea...
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On February 26 2015 19:25 Circumstance wrote:
Carn? The dude from Fnatic?
Yeah, he is the coach
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even fucking nydus, this is beautiful
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On February 26 2015 19:25 Circumstance wrote:
Carn? The dude from Fnatic?
french carn lives in korea.
swedish carn is on fnatic and plays CS:GO (he did play CS 1.6).
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Oooooooh. What a sick build incoming.
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Lol sick Nydus placement xD
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Ohmygod such a sexy build. Lifuuu <3
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This Nydus meta is...odd.
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On February 26 2015 19:30 Pandemona wrote:
Oh wait Katowice lines up with this final or something? :o
I thought they worked out a rescheduling deal with the other finals?
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LIFEEEEEEEE. So fucking good
Life is life, Life is love
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On February 26 2015 19:31 The_Templar wrote:2:00 Dear puts a pylon at his natural and scouts Life first. Life opens hatchery first. Dear responds with nexus first because cannon rush is too viable. Gas/pool Life. 3:00 Forge for Dear. Dear starts a gateway/gas. 4:00 Cybernetics core for Dear. Sentry for Dear. Lair for Life. Life not taking a third base yet, which Dear sees. 5:00 Stargate for Dear. Life is... still on two bases. Life sending a drone to the horizontal spawn. Life knows of the stargate.
6:00
PROXY HYDRALISK DEN. I like this build order.
Phoenixes being made by Dear.
Robotics facility.
Life getting a nydus worm.
7:00 Dear 55 vs Life 59
Dear taking a third base before Life.
Hydralisk range for Life.
Dear scouts still no third base as well as lots of queens.
Nydus worm is built right next to Dear's third where Dear has no vision.
A phoenix barely misses it and the nydus finishes
9:00 Dear 81 vs Life 81
Life breaks into the natural and destroys the wall.
Force fields are put up but a few hydlalisks break into the natural.
Dear only has sentries and phoenixes against mass hydralisk/queen.
The stargate and cybernetics core are taken down.
10:00 Dear 55 vs Life 99
A colossus finishes!
Lots of probes die.
Dear isn't careful and loses the colossus to slow hydralisks before GG'ing.
Life wins 3-1!
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On February 26 2015 19:25 Motlu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 19:11 Teoita wrote:On February 26 2015 19:10 dazed25 wrote:On February 26 2015 19:09 Keeemy wrote:On February 26 2015 19:08 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
So unlucky T.T LOL dude seriously. Why do you keep saying that? Unlucky? Against the same build twice in a row? Dear just seems clueless imo. He's been reacting horribly in both games. In game one he didn't send a single hallucination and decided to blindly tech heavily instead of pressuring with his blink stalkers, in game two he just did exactly what you aren't supposed to do vs a roach hydra max On February 26 2015 19:10 Motlu wrote:
God Life's build order advantage too stronk in both games. There's no build order advantage, Dear is just making horrible decisions On February 26 2015 19:11 graNite wrote:
that is when you fly around with your void rays and the msc to snipe the hive and recall You need the Zerg's timing to hit like 2-3 minutes later for that to be viable, Dear's 8 void rays just completed when that timing hit. I don't play the style Dear did in game 2, but I fail to see how it isn't a build order disadvantage given how good hydras and vipers are vs stargate units. What should Dear have done in your opinion? Edit: Build order disadvantage not loss.
Not cut the first round of 3 void rays for a twilight council of all things, not take the gasses at the third or teched to templar, go 6gate sentry/zealot/void ray until the zerg transitions, make 2 extra cannons at his third, fully wall it off, keep msc+voids there and buy time with nexus cannon instead of engaging in the middle of a wide open area with 6 zealots before charge finished and 3 sentries that didnt forcefield for shit.
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These koreans are so good at knowing when they are on camera. :o
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Poll: Recommend Dear vs Life Game 4?★★★★- Highly recommended game (7) 54% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (4) 31% ★★★- Good game (1) 8% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1) 8% ★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% 13 total votes Your vote: Recommend Dear vs Life Game 4? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Dear vs Life Game 5?★★★- Good game (4) 57% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (2) 29% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 14% ★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% 7 total votes Your vote: Recommend Dear vs Life Game 5? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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On February 26 2015 19:33 hborrgg wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 19:30 Pandemona wrote:
Oh wait Katowice lines up with this final or something? :o I thought they worked out a rescheduling deal with the other finals?
Oh i thought thats what people meant. I guess not
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Wow life so good, haven't seen a dismantling like that in a while. I feel bad for Dear, it seemed like he practiced a lot.
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Last game redeems the two first one. What a game.
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On February 26 2015 19:33 hborrgg wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 19:30 Pandemona wrote:
Oh wait Katowice lines up with this final or something? :o I thought they worked out a rescheduling deal with the other finals?
He is talking about semifinal of Life, which collides with IEM Katowice. GSL is going to reschedule that semifinal.
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Was expecting 3-0...i guess 3-1's cool to. GG Life!
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"I went overbored and lost" => LOL
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On February 26 2015 19:35 Zerg.Zilla wrote:Was expecting 3-0...i guess 3-1's cool to. GG Life!
The other match is Super 3-0 tho
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On February 26 2015 19:35 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
yuck that kt jacket
Life probably joined KT just for the sweet warm jackets. Don't be hatin' yo
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Life hasn't lost once against KT protoss in practice? o_O
Whoa.
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On February 26 2015 19:34 Teoita wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 19:25 Motlu wrote:On February 26 2015 19:11 Teoita wrote:On February 26 2015 19:10 dazed25 wrote:On February 26 2015 19:09 Keeemy wrote:On February 26 2015 19:08 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
So unlucky T.T LOL dude seriously. Why do you keep saying that? Unlucky? Against the same build twice in a row? Dear just seems clueless imo. He's been reacting horribly in both games. In game one he didn't send a single hallucination and decided to blindly tech heavily instead of pressuring with his blink stalkers, in game two he just did exactly what you aren't supposed to do vs a roach hydra max On February 26 2015 19:10 Motlu wrote:
God Life's build order advantage too stronk in both games. There's no build order advantage, Dear is just making horrible decisions On February 26 2015 19:11 graNite wrote:
that is when you fly around with your void rays and the msc to snipe the hive and recall You need the Zerg's timing to hit like 2-3 minutes later for that to be viable, Dear's 8 void rays just completed when that timing hit. I don't play the style Dear did in game 2, but I fail to see how it isn't a build order disadvantage given how good hydras and vipers are vs stargate units. What should Dear have done in your opinion? Edit: Build order disadvantage not loss. Not cut the first round of 3 void rays for a twilight council of all things, not take the gasses at the third or teched to templar, go 6gate sentry/zealot/void ray until the zerg transitions, make 2 extra cannons at his third, fully wall it off, keep msc+voids there and buy time with nexus cannon instead of engaging in the middle of a wide open area with 6 zealots before charge finished and 3 sentries that didnt forcefield for shit.
Fair enough, that does seem a lot more logical of a response than what Dear did.
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INB4 new betting scandal btw. The line of game 1 of Super vs. Dream was on 3.92 for Super just now before it got taken down.
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On February 26 2015 19:37 dazed25 wrote:
Life hasn't lost once against KT protoss in practice? o_O
Whoa.
I mean not like they are any good
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So, who is this unseen voice of translation?
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On February 26 2015 19:37 Greenei wrote:
INB4 new betting scandal btw. The line of game 1 of Super vs. Dream was on 3.92 for Super just now before it got taken down.
probably just someone being an asshole to super T.T
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On February 26 2015 19:37 felisconcolori wrote:
So, who is this unseen voice of translation?
Sojung!
And happy birthday!
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On February 26 2015 19:37 felisconcolori wrote:
So, who is this unseen voice of translation?
Sojung. Lichter did an article on her a few days ago. She does SPL translations too.
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On February 26 2015 19:37 Phredxor wrote:Life probably joined KT just for the sweet warm jackets. Don't be hatin' yo
only looks good on Stats, Life joining is really unfortunate.
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On February 26 2015 19:37 Greenei wrote:
INB4 new betting scandal btw. The line of game 1 of Super vs. Dream was on 3.92 for Super just now before it got taken down.
O____________________O
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On February 26 2015 19:37 felisconcolori wrote:
So, who is this unseen voice of translation?
Happy birthday !
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okay so life didn't make any speedling in 4 games, no constant rubyes, no multipronged attack, but instead won with builds and huge roach hydra timings, no wonder if Dear has been caught off guard.
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look at that extremely violent girl behind valdes and moonglade.
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I just saw that Life is left handed. Is he also using the mouse with his left hand like Naniwa?
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On February 26 2015 19:38 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 19:37 Greenei wrote:
INB4 new betting scandal btw. The line of game 1 of Super vs. Dream was on 3.92 for Super just now before it got taken down. O____________________O
I'd prefer to avoid unnecessary speculation, if we could.
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Life with good preparation and polished builds : did just turn into his final form??
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Think Maru would like i word with you Apollo :3
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what is with SPOTV and their shitty audio all the time T.T
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"I would love to face Maru, but I don't think he has what it takes."
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On February 26 2015 19:37 Greenei wrote:
INB4 new betting scandal btw. The line of game 1 of Super vs. Dream was on 3.92 for Super just now before it got taken down.
Dammit.
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On February 26 2015 19:40 Pandemona wrote:Think Maru would like i word with you Apollo :3
As much as I love Maru, he did lose to Life the last time they played.
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On February 26 2015 19:40 graNite wrote:
I just saw that Life is left handed. Is he also using the mouse with his left hand like Naniwa?
Nope
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Thanks all for the answer. And she is now seen, too!
Also, soO looks so happy to be interviewed.
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On February 26 2015 19:40 hborrgg wrote:"I would love to face Maru, but I don't think he has what it takes." :OOOOOOOOOOOO
translation: "Maru is ez win, but ez win for Stats too."
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Wow, soO can't even get through "How've you been" without the hammer?
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On February 26 2015 19:40 Pandemona wrote:Think Maru would like i word with you Apollo :3
lets be real though.
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I need that synchronized nod as a gif right now! Where is nice__username when you need him the most?
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Interview with Korean sound channel... great
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Hahaha soOjwaaaaaaa. Not so good at English yet :3
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Real answers to these questions for soO would have been really interesting btw in this 10 questions segments
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On February 26 2015 19:37 Motlu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 19:34 Teoita wrote:On February 26 2015 19:25 Motlu wrote:On February 26 2015 19:11 Teoita wrote:On February 26 2015 19:10 dazed25 wrote:On February 26 2015 19:09 Keeemy wrote:On February 26 2015 19:08 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
So unlucky T.T LOL dude seriously. Why do you keep saying that? Unlucky? Against the same build twice in a row? Dear just seems clueless imo. He's been reacting horribly in both games. In game one he didn't send a single hallucination and decided to blindly tech heavily instead of pressuring with his blink stalkers, in game two he just did exactly what you aren't supposed to do vs a roach hydra max On February 26 2015 19:10 Motlu wrote:
God Life's build order advantage too stronk in both games. There's no build order advantage, Dear is just making horrible decisions On February 26 2015 19:11 graNite wrote:
that is when you fly around with your void rays and the msc to snipe the hive and recall You need the Zerg's timing to hit like 2-3 minutes later for that to be viable, Dear's 8 void rays just completed when that timing hit. I don't play the style Dear did in game 2, but I fail to see how it isn't a build order disadvantage given how good hydras and vipers are vs stargate units. What should Dear have done in your opinion? Edit: Build order disadvantage not loss. Not cut the first round of 3 void rays for a twilight council of all things, not take the gasses at the third or teched to templar, go 6gate sentry/zealot/void ray until the zerg transitions, make 2 extra cannons at his third, fully wall it off, keep msc+voids there and buy time with nexus cannon instead of engaging in the middle of a wide open area with 6 zealots before charge finished and 3 sentries that didnt forcefield for shit. Fair enough, that does seem a lot more logical of a response than what Dear did.
Look at Naniwa's old games vs Life for example and how he micros behind walls and with FF's as he steadily grows his VR count. You can never fight in the open like that when your VR count is below 8-10 and you don't have 8 gates of zlot production
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On February 26 2015 19:42 Dghelneshi wrote:
I need that synchronized nod as a gif right now! Where is nice__username when you need him the most?
It's late at night, and we now know a thing or two about his habits with his hands, so I think I have an idea of what he's preoccupied with.
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I'd say soO's second overall in 10 Q & A's
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That soO interview was hilarious.
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soO's so cute, but his english ahaha.
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Do the 10 Q/10 A segments get put up on the YouTube channel? I keep missing them to Twitch ads.
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On February 26 2015 19:44 Penev wrote:
I'd say soO's second overall in 10 Q & A's
Ouch.
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On February 26 2015 19:40 Pandemona wrote:Think Maru would like i word with you Apollo :3
Why, Maru has nowhere near as much succes as Life, he still has no other big tourney wins than a single WCS KR Premier
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Wow dear actually surpassed my expectations!
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On February 26 2015 19:41 Phredxor wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 19:40 Pandemona wrote:Think Maru would like i word with you Apollo :3 As much as I love Maru, he did lose to Life the last time they played.
not even sure maru is # 2 actually....
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Life still in that picture D: it's not fair man
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StarTale vs MVP to start Round 2. Hype!
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On February 26 2015 19:41 Phredxor wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 19:40 Pandemona wrote:Think Maru would like i word with you Apollo :3 As much as I love Maru, he did lose to Life the last time they played.
Well, Rain beat Life in the GSL Ro32...then showed up to his Ro16 group and bombed out with pretty sloppy play. So don't think you can really put too much stock into the fact that Maru lost to Life the last time they played.
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On February 26 2015 19:47 SackOfWetMice wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 19:41 Phredxor wrote:On February 26 2015 19:40 Pandemona wrote:Think Maru would like i word with you Apollo :3 As much as I love Maru, he did lose to Life the last time they played. Well, Rain beat Life in the GSL Ro32...then showed up to his Ro16 group and bombed out with pretty sloppy play. So don't think you can really put too much stock into the fact that Maru lost to Life the last time they played.
http://aligulac.com/misc/compare/3-Life,49-Maru/
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On February 26 2015 19:47 SackOfWetMice wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 19:41 Phredxor wrote:On February 26 2015 19:40 Pandemona wrote:Think Maru would like i word with you Apollo :3 As much as I love Maru, he did lose to Life the last time they played. Well, Rain beat Life in the GSL Ro32...then showed up to his Ro16 group and bombed out with pretty sloppy play. So don't think you can really put too much stock into the fact that Maru lost to Life the last time they played.
Rogue confirmed GSL champion.
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Dream better fucking win, otherwise none of the people I wanted to win will advance from ro8 T.T
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On February 26 2015 19:47 SackOfWetMice wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 19:41 Phredxor wrote:On February 26 2015 19:40 Pandemona wrote:Think Maru would like i word with you Apollo :3 As much as I love Maru, he did lose to Life the last time they played. Well, Rain beat Life in the GSL Ro32...then showed up to his Ro16 group and bombed out with pretty sloppy play. So don't think you can really put too much stock into the fact that Maru lost to Life the last time they played.
Could Zest beat life?
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On February 26 2015 19:47 SackOfWetMice wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 19:41 Phredxor wrote:On February 26 2015 19:40 Pandemona wrote:Think Maru would like i word with you Apollo :3 As much as I love Maru, he did lose to Life the last time they played. Well, Rain beat Life in the GSL Ro32...then showed up to his Ro16 group and bombed out with pretty sloppy play. So don't think you can really put too much stock into the fact that Maru lost to Life the last time they played.
Rain played below his usual level. Maru threw everything he had at LIfe and Life said himself that he was coasting at the beginning of the BO7 and still won.
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Dream vs Life is SKT vs KT what kind of world do we live in.
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Wow ! How did Life look and how did he win?
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On February 26 2015 19:40 Circumstance wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 19:38 Penev wrote:On February 26 2015 19:37 Greenei wrote:
INB4 new betting scandal btw. The line of game 1 of Super vs. Dream was on 3.92 for Super just now before it got taken down. O____________________O I'd prefer to avoid unnecessary speculation, if we could.
I agree. Why are you telling me this?
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On February 26 2015 19:51 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Dream vs Life is SKT vs KT what kind of world do we live in.
A WHOLE NEW WOOOOOOOORLD
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On February 26 2015 19:48 Grovbolle wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 19:47 SackOfWetMice wrote:On February 26 2015 19:41 Phredxor wrote:On February 26 2015 19:40 Pandemona wrote:Think Maru would like i word with you Apollo :3 As much as I love Maru, he did lose to Life the last time they played. Well, Rain beat Life in the GSL Ro32...then showed up to his Ro16 group and bombed out with pretty sloppy play. So don't think you can really put too much stock into the fact that Maru lost to Life the last time they played. http://aligulac.com/misc/compare/3-Life,49-Maru/
Proves Life got lucky for 2 games.
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On February 26 2015 19:51 OtherWorld wrote:
Wow ! How did Life look and how did he win?
2 times roach/hydra/viper, nydus hydra all-in from 2 bases in game 4
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goddam I love these highlight videos, so sick
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On February 26 2015 19:50 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 19:47 SackOfWetMice wrote:On February 26 2015 19:41 Phredxor wrote:On February 26 2015 19:40 Pandemona wrote:Think Maru would like i word with you Apollo :3 As much as I love Maru, he did lose to Life the last time they played. Well, Rain beat Life in the GSL Ro32...then showed up to his Ro16 group and bombed out with pretty sloppy play. So don't think you can really put too much stock into the fact that Maru lost to Life the last time they played. Could Zest beat life?
Doubt it, Zest lost to DeParture and some other scrubs in his qualifiers for GSL/NSSL. Been poor in ZvP in the past half-year or so (and always been poor vs. Terran).
And if that was an intentional bait, then props to you. Wasn't sure.
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It just hit me right now how much I actually miss the old MVP. The days of MVP Super, Dream, DRG, Billowy, KeeN and the others were pretty nice.
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That Invasion hoodie is ballin'.
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C'mon, let at least half of the dream come true
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Maps> Nimbus, Catallena, KSS, Foxtrot Labs, Overgrowth(Dream bans Deadwing, Super MGR)
BTW how much drops prefer Dream? Can he channel his inner Bbyong/MMA?
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Moonglade has no excuse for "Envision". There's a notable Dota team in his own region called Invasion esports.
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On February 26 2015 19:59 deacon.frost wrote:Maps> Nimbus, Catallena, KSS, Foxtrot Labs, Overgrowth(Dream bans Deadwing, Super MGR) BTW how much drops prefer Dream? Can he channel his inner Bbyong/MMA?
MMA Gumiho Dream used to be the og trifecta of dropping everywhere
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On February 26 2015 19:53 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 19:51 OtherWorld wrote:
Wow ! How did Life look and how did he win? 2 times roach/hydra/viper, nydus hydra all-in from 2 bases in game 4
Thanks ! Aggro Zerg still best Zerg style in ZvP then.
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On February 26 2015 20:02 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 19:59 deacon.frost wrote:Maps> Nimbus, Catallena, KSS, Foxtrot Labs, Overgrowth(Dream bans Deadwing, Super MGR) BTW how much drops prefer Dream? Can he channel his inner Bbyong/MMA? MMA Gumiho Dream used to be the og trifecta of dropping everywhere
Super is super dead then with these maps :D
Neither help the actual spawn locations
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2:00
Dream opens 14CC.
Super getting a gateway and gas before scouting the wrong way.
Three barracks for Dream.
3:00
Super expanding.
Mothership core for Super.
Second assimilator on the way.
4:00
Robotics facility for Super.
Super getting stalkers.
5:00
Super's expansion finishes.
Engineering bay for Dream.
Dream tries scouting with an SCV but it's denied by a scouting stalker.
Stalker runs into a bunch of marines and backs off.
Observer for Super.
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Dream liking the 14cc recently
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Wow just thinking that Life has to play one of these in semi finals.... haha
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Super is doing the Pigbaby
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super rock solid, playing like rain wasn't able to
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On February 26 2015 20:03 The_Templar wrote:2:00 Dream opens 14CC. Super getting a gateway and gas before scouting the wrong way. Three barracks for Dream. 3:00 Super expanding. Mothership core for Super. Second assimilator on the way. 4:00 Robotics facility for Super. Super getting stalkers. 5:00 Super's expansion finishes. Engineering bay for Dream. Dream tries scouting with an SCV but it's denied by a scouting stalker. Stalker runs into a bunch of marines and backs off. Observer for Super.
6:00
+1 attack and combat shields for Dream.
Dream adding a marauder.
Observer goes into Dream's main and is immediately killed with a scan.
Robotics facility for Super.
8:00 Dream 55 vs Super 53
Third CC for Dream.
Stim and starport begin.
Observer gets into Dream's base un-noticed.
Double forge for Super.
Super getting a second observer and a third observer out onto the map.
Twilight council for Super.
9:00 Dream 75 vs Super 69
+1 attack starts for Dream.
No third base yet for Super, and Dream knows this.
+1/1 starts for Super.
One observer is looking around the main of Dream.
Dream sees Super trying to take his third and goes for a drop.
10:00 Dream 97 vs Super 81
Super has three colossi already.
Dream begins viking production.
Dream can't find a place to drop.
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People don't snipe observers anymore nowadays, ah good old MVP was so good in that... I'm nostalgic..
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On February 26 2015 20:06 DJHelium wrote:
Super is doing the Pigbaby
You're right, this build is very Pigbaby, and not just in the high obs count.
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The Dream Machine is rollin', baby
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that looked way too fucking easy
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On February 26 2015 20:06 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 20:03 The_Templar wrote:2:00 Dream opens 14CC. Super getting a gateway and gas before scouting the wrong way. Three barracks for Dream. 3:00 Super expanding. Mothership core for Super. Second assimilator on the way. 4:00 Robotics facility for Super. Super getting stalkers. 5:00 Super's expansion finishes. Engineering bay for Dream. Dream tries scouting with an SCV but it's denied by a scouting stalker. Stalker runs into a bunch of marines and backs off. Observer for Super. 6:00 +1 attack and combat shields for Dream. Dream adding a marauder. Observer goes into Dream's main and is immediately killed with a scan. Robotics facility for Super. 8:00 Dream 55 vs Super 53 Third CC for Dream. Stim and starport begin. Observer gets into Dream's base un-noticed. Double forge for Super. Super getting a second observer and a third observer out onto the map. Twilight council for Super. 9:00 Dream 75 vs Super 69 +1 attack starts for Dream. No third base yet for Super, and Dream knows this. +1/1 starts for Super. One observer is looking around the main of Dream. Dream sees Super trying to take his third and goes for a drop. 10:00 Dream 97 vs Super 81 Super has three colossi already. Dream begins viking production. Dream can't find a place to drop.
11:00 Dream 126 vs Super 98
+2/2 starts for Super.
Both players begin to mine off their third bases.
Four vikings at a time for Dream.
Dream goes for a large drop and changes his mind at the last second.
Three gateways finishing for Super.
12:00 Dream 157 vs Super 117
Both players on +1/1 but Super's 2/2 is going to be much faster.
Dream is still between both players' bases.
Dream pulling SCVs.
13:00 Dream 175 vs Super 134
Super still has only three clossi.
Dream easily clears the third base and kills everything.
Super GG's!
Dream takes the first map!
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OMG, Life Dear all over again...
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Poll: Recommend Dream vs Super Game 1?★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (8) 67% ★- Do not see this game no matter what (2) 17% ★★★- Good game (1) 8% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 8% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 12 total votes Your vote: Recommend Dream vs Super Game 1? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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lol, Super's reaction on that cam. Basically just like "holy fuck, welp, next game..."
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On February 26 2015 20:08 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
that looked way too fucking easy
Super didn't made units.
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Every second of Photon Overcharge that Super tried to buy with his army retreat was used on hitting boys instead of thing with guns.
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On February 26 2015 20:08 Undead1993 wrote:
so stupid
SCV Ready!
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Now I know how Zerg players feel watching an immortal all-in. What an annoying build which makes for unexciting games
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Indeed that was "so much vikings", well said, native speaker of English.
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btw these games have been really inferior to WCS imo
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On February 26 2015 20:06 Undead1993 wrote:
super rock solid, playing like rain wasn't able to
rofl, it's greedy as fuck and praying you're not scv pulled.
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On February 26 2015 20:09 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 20:08 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
that looked way too fucking easy Super didn't made units.
i know it's funny
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On February 26 2015 20:09 Circumstance wrote:
Every second of Photon Overcharge that Super tried to buy with his army retreat was used on hitting boys instead of thing with guns.
As Downfall put it, SCVs are Terran's most dangerous melee unit !
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On February 26 2015 20:10 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 20:06 Undead1993 wrote:
super rock solid, playing like rain wasn't able to rofl, it's greedy as fuck and praying you're not scv pulled.
ye 2 cannons in the natural so greedy
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On February 26 2015 20:10 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 20:06 Undead1993 wrote:
super rock solid, playing like rain wasn't able to rofl, it's greedy as fuck and praying you're not scv pulled.
Is he playing Protoss like a Zerg then?
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On February 26 2015 20:10 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 20:06 Undead1993 wrote:
super rock solid, playing like rain wasn't able to rofl, it's greedy as fuck and praying you're not scv pulled.
i think it's asking to get pulled. stopping any drops from every happening is just gonna annoy the terrans that they'll just go "eh, have some boys"
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On February 26 2015 20:11 Jer99 wrote:
Dream/super could pass for brothers
RIP old school MVP, choya killed it
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On February 26 2015 20:11 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 20:10 sAsImre wrote:On February 26 2015 20:06 Undead1993 wrote:
super rock solid, playing like rain wasn't able to rofl, it's greedy as fuck and praying you're not scv pulled. i think it's asking to get pulled. stopping any drops from every happening is just gonna annoy the terrans that they'll just go "eh, have some boys"
Maybe he needed fewer Stalkers at the front and more Cannons.
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On February 26 2015 20:12 KingofdaHipHop wrote:RIP old school MVP, choya killed it
Choya so evil
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On February 26 2015 20:11 Undead1993 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 20:10 sAsImre wrote:On February 26 2015 20:06 Undead1993 wrote:
super rock solid, playing like rain wasn't able to rofl, it's greedy as fuck and praying you're not scv pulled. ye 2 cannons in the natural so greedy
b3 and 2 forges running at 10min = no units until your 2/2 is done which is after most scv pull timings. Notice how super never used his warp gates but I guess understanding why scv pull are strong vs stupidly greedy build is stopped by a balance whine veil for LR P.
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On February 26 2015 20:12 Circumstance wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 20:11 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On February 26 2015 20:10 sAsImre wrote:On February 26 2015 20:06 Undead1993 wrote:
super rock solid, playing like rain wasn't able to rofl, it's greedy as fuck and praying you're not scv pulled. i think it's asking to get pulled. stopping any drops from every happening is just gonna annoy the terrans that they'll just go "eh, have some boys" Maybe he needed fewer Stalkers at the front and more Cannons.
Needed more cannons in the terran mineral line
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On February 26 2015 20:13 hborrgg wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 20:12 Circumstance wrote:On February 26 2015 20:11 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On February 26 2015 20:10 sAsImre wrote:On February 26 2015 20:06 Undead1993 wrote:
super rock solid, playing like rain wasn't able to rofl, it's greedy as fuck and praying you're not scv pulled. i think it's asking to get pulled. stopping any drops from every happening is just gonna annoy the terrans that they'll just go "eh, have some boys" Maybe he needed fewer Stalkers at the front and more Cannons. Needed more cannons in the terran mineral line
Only SaSe is gutsy enough to do that!
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2:00
Barracks/gas for a reaper for Dream.
Gateway/gas for Super.
3:00
Both players expand.
Dream's reaper kills a probe before the mothership core finishes.
Factory for Dream.
4:00
Twilight council for Super.
Stalker on the way.
5:00
Reaper hasn't scouted the much and the stalker/MSC are guarding both entrances.
Starport for Dream.
Dream getting a widow mine.
Super researching blink.
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On February 26 2015 20:13 hborrgg wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 20:12 Circumstance wrote:On February 26 2015 20:11 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On February 26 2015 20:10 sAsImre wrote:On February 26 2015 20:06 Undead1993 wrote:
super rock solid, playing like rain wasn't able to rofl, it's greedy as fuck and praying you're not scv pulled. i think it's asking to get pulled. stopping any drops from every happening is just gonna annoy the terrans that they'll just go "eh, have some boys" Maybe he needed fewer Stalkers at the front and more Cannons. Needed more cannons in the terran mineral line
when's the last time someone actual tried to cannon a terran?
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On February 26 2015 20:13 hborrgg wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 20:12 Circumstance wrote:On February 26 2015 20:11 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On February 26 2015 20:10 sAsImre wrote:On February 26 2015 20:06 Undead1993 wrote:
super rock solid, playing like rain wasn't able to rofl, it's greedy as fuck and praying you're not scv pulled. i think it's asking to get pulled. stopping any drops from every happening is just gonna annoy the terrans that they'll just go "eh, have some boys" Maybe he needed fewer Stalkers at the front and more Cannons. Needed more cannons in the terran mineral line
This made me think : when is the last time we saw a PvT cannon rush in a pro match?
edit : lol KODHH, nice snipe
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I think it must have been SaSe on daybreak vs.. Polt?
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That mine got its revenge
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Ugh.
Watching this makes me just hate terrans even more
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lol scan range changes can't come soon enough.
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So I guess that's why Dream lost yesterday. Spent all his time practicing PvT
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Do not use the amove, Super. Stalkers are dumb and dumber against mines with amove...
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On February 26 2015 20:16 hborrgg wrote:
lol scan range changes can't come soon enough.
I hope not, makes it even easier.
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On February 26 2015 20:16 OtherWorld wrote:
So I guess that's why Dream lost yesterday. Spent all his time practicing PvT
possible, he's looking sharp here and he mauled rain too.
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On February 26 2015 20:14 The_Templar wrote:2:00 Barracks/gas for a reaper for Dream. Gateway/gas for Super. 3:00 Both players expand. Dream's reaper kills a probe before the mothership core finishes. Factory for Dream. 4:00 Twilight council for Super. Stalker on the way. 5:00 Reaper hasn't scouted the much and the stalker/MSC are guarding both entrances. Starport for Dream. Dream getting a widow mine. Super researching blink.
6:00
Dream moving out with some marines and a widow mine.
Medivac on the way.
Dream's reaper sees all.
Dream attacks the natural and forces a photon overcharge before killing the MSC with the mine.
Mine drop on the way for Dream.
7:00 Dream 57 vs Super 48
Two more gateways and a robotics facility for Super.
Widow mine gets into the main base and kills four probes.
Observer finishes for Super.
Widow mines and cleaned up but another stalker dies.
Robotics bay for Super.
9:00 Dream 73 vs Super 58
Two more barracks for Dream.
Dream going for another mine drop but stalkers are in position.
Only two probes fall.
Robotics bay finishes.
Four gateways on the way for Super.
Super sees Dream move out with an observer.
Second starport on the way.
Colossus + extended thermal lance on the way.
10:00 Dream 95 vs Super 72
Dream gathering all of his forces near Super's natural.
Dream has no vikings.
Stim is about to finish.
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Is it the aussie accent that makes Moonglade say "we did see" instead of "we saw"? I've noticed a lot of casters doing stuff like that lately.
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On February 26 2015 20:17 mCon.Hephaistas wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 20:16 hborrgg wrote:
lol scan range changes can't come soon enough. I hope not, makes it even easier.
But as it is right now it's just random. Some days Super doesn't lose a stalker there, some days he does. It doesn't make sense.
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THE DREAM MACHINE WON'T STOP YO
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Why didn't this Dream turn up to GSL....so confusing xD
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On February 26 2015 20:18 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 20:14 The_Templar wrote:2:00 Barracks/gas for a reaper for Dream. Gateway/gas for Super. 3:00 Both players expand. Dream's reaper kills a probe before the mothership core finishes. Factory for Dream. 4:00 Twilight council for Super. Stalker on the way. 5:00 Reaper hasn't scouted the much and the stalker/MSC are guarding both entrances. Starport for Dream. Dream getting a widow mine. Super researching blink. 6:00 Dream moving out with some marines and a widow mine. Medivac on the way. Dream's reaper sees all. Dream attacks the natural and forces a photon overcharge before killing the MSC with the mine. Mine drop on the way for Dream. 7:00 Dream 57 vs Super 48 Two more gateways and a robotics facility for Super. Widow mine gets into the main base and kills four probes. Observer finishes for Super. Widow mines and cleaned up but another stalker dies. Robotics bay for Super. 9:00 Dream 73 vs Super 58 Two more barracks for Dream. Dream going for another mine drop but stalkers are in position. Only two probes fall. Robotics bay finishes. Four gateways on the way for Super. Super sees Dream move out with an observer. Second starport on the way. Colossus + extended thermal lance on the way. 10:00 Dream 95 vs Super 72 Dream gathering all of his forces near Super's natural. Dream has no vikings. Stim is about to finish.
11:00 Dream 121 vs Super 106
Super moves out and engages Dream's army before dream is ready.
Dream backs off and reinforces.
Both colossi fall.
12:00 Dream 107 vs Super 64
Dream stims into the natural.
Another colossus finished but it's DPS'd down.
Stalkers manage to force Dream to back off.
13:00 Dream 111 vs Super 70
Dream is rallying to Super's base.
Dream picks up and drops everything in the main.
Super is crushed and GG's!
Dream takes a 2-0 lead!
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On February 26 2015 20:20 Pandemona wrote:
Why didn't this Dream turn up to GSL....so confusing xD
Well vs Rain he did
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On February 26 2015 20:17 mCon.Hephaistas wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 20:16 hborrgg wrote:
lol scan range changes can't come soon enough. I hope not, makes it even easier.
I meant that super can't wait for the changes after losing that stalker to the mine.
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On February 26 2015 20:20 Pandemona wrote:
Why didn't this Dream turn up to GSL....so confusing xD
solar and rogue too good
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WTF? What was behind the decision to hunt the bio ball?!
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On February 26 2015 20:19 DJHelium wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 20:17 mCon.Hephaistas wrote:On February 26 2015 20:16 hborrgg wrote:
lol scan range changes can't come soon enough. I hope not, makes it even easier. But as it is right now it's just random. Some days Super doesn't lose a stalker there, some days he does. It doesn't make sense.
u can click on the unit to prevent it right?
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On February 26 2015 20:20 mCon.Hephaistas wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 20:19 DJHelium wrote:On February 26 2015 20:17 mCon.Hephaistas wrote:On February 26 2015 20:16 hborrgg wrote:
lol scan range changes can't come soon enough. I hope not, makes it even easier. But as it is right now it's just random. Some days Super doesn't lose a stalker there, some days he does. It doesn't make sense. u can click on the unit to prevent it right?
yeah need to do it manually it's not that random.
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Why don't protoss 10 gate anymore? Considering it's almost 100% guaranteed the terran goes reaper into reactor, it can do heavy damage
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On February 26 2015 20:20 The_Templar wrote:Poll: Recommend Dream vs Super Game 2?★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (9) 82% ★- Do not see this game no matter what (1) 9% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 9% ★★★- Good game (0) 0% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% 11 total votes Your vote: Recommend Dream vs Super Game 2? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
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Not a good couple of nights to be a Protoss fan. Terrible terrible damage play all around. Including Rain's series' last night Protoss are 2-9 -.-
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On February 26 2015 20:20 mCon.Hephaistas wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 20:19 DJHelium wrote:On February 26 2015 20:17 mCon.Hephaistas wrote:On February 26 2015 20:16 hborrgg wrote:
lol scan range changes can't come soon enough. I hope not, makes it even easier. But as it is right now it's just random. Some days Super doesn't lose a stalker there, some days he does. It doesn't make sense. u can click on the unit to prevent it right?
yes if you focus it with the stalker you dont lsoe the stalker if you jsut amove your stalker you are going to lose it
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On February 26 2015 20:20 Pandemona wrote:
Why didn't this Dream turn up to GSL....so confusing xD
To fuck with your liquibets ofc
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On February 26 2015 20:20 mCon.Hephaistas wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 20:19 DJHelium wrote:On February 26 2015 20:17 mCon.Hephaistas wrote:On February 26 2015 20:16 hborrgg wrote:
lol scan range changes can't come soon enough. I hope not, makes it even easier. But as it is right now it's just random. Some days Super doesn't lose a stalker there, some days he does. It doesn't make sense. u can click on the unit to prevent it right?
Yes.
I think that's beside the point. If you have a scan range, it should be consistent. Either remove a-move (not going to happen) or don't use a random scan range imo.
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On February 26 2015 20:20 Pandemona wrote:
Why didn't this Dream turn up to GSL....so confusing xD
He did! He 2-0'd Rain. >.>
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Yeah but that is also due to the fact there is much more points on offer this time from Korea? GSL and NSSL giving points. Plus he managed to grab that nice IEM championship. But i guess it is impressive none the less.
On February 26 2015 20:23 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 20:20 Pandemona wrote:
Why didn't this Dream turn up to GSL....so confusing xD He did! He 2-0'd Rain. >.>
Rain is bad people dont understand this
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literally 12x the player HerO is
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even if he does win 3-0 i'll stil be pissed about dear and the dream and rain from yesterday
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Well I mean it's LiquidHerO we're talking about
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On February 26 2015 20:21 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 20:20 mCon.Hephaistas wrote:On February 26 2015 20:19 DJHelium wrote:On February 26 2015 20:17 mCon.Hephaistas wrote:On February 26 2015 20:16 hborrgg wrote:
lol scan range changes can't come soon enough. I hope not, makes it even easier. But as it is right now it's just random. Some days Super doesn't lose a stalker there, some days he does. It doesn't make sense. u can click on the unit to prevent it right? yeah need to do it manually it's not that random.
you shouldn't really need to tell a range 6 stalker to shoot something at range 6 rather than 5.
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On February 26 2015 20:22 DJHelium wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 20:20 mCon.Hephaistas wrote:On February 26 2015 20:19 DJHelium wrote:On February 26 2015 20:17 mCon.Hephaistas wrote:On February 26 2015 20:16 hborrgg wrote:
lol scan range changes can't come soon enough. I hope not, makes it even easier. But as it is right now it's just random. Some days Super doesn't lose a stalker there, some days he does. It doesn't make sense. u can click on the unit to prevent it right? Yes. I think that's beside the point. If you have a scan range, it should be consistent. Either remove a-move (not going to happen) or don't use a random scan range imo.
It's technically not random right now. You just need to time your movements with the scan sweeps.
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Gateway + single gas for Super.
Dream opens reaper.
3:00
Both players expand.
Mothership core for Super.
Dream getting a reactor and factory.
4:00
Twilight council for Super.
Dream sees the expansion and hides the reaper.
Starport + widow mine for Dream.
Dream gets his reaper out of the natural.
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Super taking his third gas.
Dream moving out with a widow mine and some marines.
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On February 26 2015 20:25 hborrgg wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 20:22 DJHelium wrote:On February 26 2015 20:20 mCon.Hephaistas wrote:On February 26 2015 20:19 DJHelium wrote:On February 26 2015 20:17 mCon.Hephaistas wrote:On February 26 2015 20:16 hborrgg wrote:
lol scan range changes can't come soon enough. I hope not, makes it even easier. But as it is right now it's just random. Some days Super doesn't lose a stalker there, some days he does. It doesn't make sense. u can click on the unit to prevent it right? Yes. I think that's beside the point. If you have a scan range, it should be consistent. Either remove a-move (not going to happen) or don't use a random scan range imo. It's technically not random right now. You just need to time your movements with the scan sweeps.
how do you know when that is?
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wm stop is the new lurker hold
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On February 26 2015 20:26 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 20:25 hborrgg wrote:On February 26 2015 20:22 DJHelium wrote:On February 26 2015 20:20 mCon.Hephaistas wrote:On February 26 2015 20:19 DJHelium wrote:On February 26 2015 20:17 mCon.Hephaistas wrote:On February 26 2015 20:16 hborrgg wrote:
lol scan range changes can't come soon enough. I hope not, makes it even easier. But as it is right now it's just random. Some days Super doesn't lose a stalker there, some days he does. It doesn't make sense. u can click on the unit to prevent it right? Yes. I think that's beside the point. If you have a scan range, it should be consistent. Either remove a-move (not going to happen) or don't use a random scan range imo. It's technically not random right now. You just need to time your movements with the scan sweeps. how do you know when that is?
u lrn 2 pro?
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Lol, one unit completely denying ALL mining at a base. So good -.-
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On February 26 2015 20:27 hborrgg wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 20:26 Heartland wrote:On February 26 2015 20:25 hborrgg wrote:On February 26 2015 20:22 DJHelium wrote:On February 26 2015 20:20 mCon.Hephaistas wrote:On February 26 2015 20:19 DJHelium wrote:On February 26 2015 20:17 mCon.Hephaistas wrote:On February 26 2015 20:16 hborrgg wrote:
lol scan range changes can't come soon enough. I hope not, makes it even easier. But as it is right now it's just random. Some days Super doesn't lose a stalker there, some days he does. It doesn't make sense. u can click on the unit to prevent it right? Yes. I think that's beside the point. If you have a scan range, it should be consistent. Either remove a-move (not going to happen) or don't use a random scan range imo. It's technically not random right now. You just need to time your movements with the scan sweeps. how do you know when that is? u lrn 2 pro?
haha
but I was actually serious : (
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On February 26 2015 20:27 hborrgg wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 20:26 Heartland wrote:On February 26 2015 20:25 hborrgg wrote:On February 26 2015 20:22 DJHelium wrote:On February 26 2015 20:20 mCon.Hephaistas wrote:On February 26 2015 20:19 DJHelium wrote:On February 26 2015 20:17 mCon.Hephaistas wrote:On February 26 2015 20:16 hborrgg wrote:
lol scan range changes can't come soon enough. I hope not, makes it even easier. But as it is right now it's just random. Some days Super doesn't lose a stalker there, some days he does. It doesn't make sense. u can click on the unit to prevent it right? Yes. I think that's beside the point. If you have a scan range, it should be consistent. Either remove a-move (not going to happen) or don't use a random scan range imo. It's technically not random right now. You just need to time your movements with the scan sweeps. how do you know when that is? u lrn 2 pro?
lol
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On February 26 2015 20:28 ZeratuLsc2 wrote:
Lol, one unit completely denying ALL mining at a base. So good -.-
oh man imagine if it could fly
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On February 26 2015 20:28 ZeratuLsc2 wrote:
Lol, one unit completely denying ALL mining at a base. So good -.-
Yeah, much like a Dark Templar (;
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On February 26 2015 20:28 ZeratuLsc2 wrote:
Lol, one unit completely denying ALL mining at a base. So good -.-
well, to be honest, what pro's do is time it out (30 secs) and then pull the probes and sacrifice one. So it's not quite true
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On February 26 2015 20:28 ZeratuLsc2 wrote:
Lol, one unit completely denying ALL mining at a base. So good -.-
i know i hate dt's too
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On February 26 2015 20:25 The_Templar wrote:2:00 Gateway + single gas for Super. Dream opens reaper. 3:00 Both players expand. Mothership core for Super. Dream getting a reactor and factory. 4:00 Twilight council for Super. Dream sees the expansion and hides the reaper. Starport + widow mine for Dream. Dream gets his reaper out of the natural. 5:00 Super taking his third gas. Dream moving out with a widow mine and some marines.
6:00
Six marines and the widow mine do almost no damage in the natural.
The reaper is sacrificed.
Robotics facility is made.
Observer allows Super to pick off widow mines.
8:00 Dream 57 vs Super 57
Mine drop in the main kills almost no probes.
Dream getting stim, combat shields and +1.
9:00 Dream 67 vs Super 66
Forge and robotics bay for Super.
Super kills a medivac with stalkers in the center of the map.
Another mine drop in the natural destroys three probes.
10:00 Dream 82 vs Super 78
Stalkers chase the medivac of Dream but miss it.
+1/1 for Super with double forges.
Missile turret for Dream in his natural.
Concussive shells for Dream.
Dream picking up a lot of units in three medivacs and moving them out.
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THE DREAM MACHINE IS THE NEW MACHINE GOD PEOPLE
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Super was Super bad today TT
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On February 26 2015 20:29 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 20:25 The_Templar wrote:2:00 Gateway + single gas for Super. Dream opens reaper. 3:00 Both players expand. Mothership core for Super. Dream getting a reactor and factory. 4:00 Twilight council for Super. Dream sees the expansion and hides the reaper. Starport + widow mine for Dream. Dream gets his reaper out of the natural. 5:00 Super taking his third gas. Dream moving out with a widow mine and some marines. 6:00 Six marines and the widow mine do almost no damage in the natural. The reaper is sacrificed. Robotics facility is made. Observer allows Super to pick off widow mines. 8:00 Dream 57 vs Super 57 Mine drop in the main kills almost no probes. Dream getting stim, combat shields and +1. 9:00 Dream 67 vs Super 66 Forge and robotics bay for Super. Super kills a medivac with stalkers in the center of the map. Another mine drop in the natural destroys three probes. 10:00 Dream 82 vs Super 78 Stalkers chase the medivac of Dream but miss it. +1/1 for Super with double forges. Missile turret for Dream in his natural. Concussive shells for Dream. Dream picking up a lot of units in three medivacs and moving them out.
11:00 Dream 108 vs Super 96
Dream taking his third.
Dream moving towards Super's bases.
Super was about to take his third base.
Dream flanks with 8 marines and takes out the colossus.
Super backs off into his natural but Dream follows and destroys everything.
Super GG's!
Dream wins 3-0!
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On February 26 2015 20:28 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 20:27 hborrgg wrote:On February 26 2015 20:26 Heartland wrote:On February 26 2015 20:25 hborrgg wrote:On February 26 2015 20:22 DJHelium wrote:On February 26 2015 20:20 mCon.Hephaistas wrote:On February 26 2015 20:19 DJHelium wrote:On February 26 2015 20:17 mCon.Hephaistas wrote:On February 26 2015 20:16 hborrgg wrote:
lol scan range changes can't come soon enough. I hope not, makes it even easier. But as it is right now it's just random. Some days Super doesn't lose a stalker there, some days he does. It doesn't make sense. u can click on the unit to prevent it right? Yes. I think that's beside the point. If you have a scan range, it should be consistent. Either remove a-move (not going to happen) or don't use a random scan range imo. It's technically not random right now. You just need to time your movements with the scan sweeps. how do you know when that is? u lrn 2 pro? haha but I was actually serious : (
I know, it's good they're finally looking into it.
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We can thank Dear for avoiding an all-clean sweep Ro8 !
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Fuck terrans.
Now waiting for Blizzard to nerf some warpgates (imba, as we just saw) and buff bio/wm even more.
User was warned for this post
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Life only semifinalist not to 3-0. Slump?
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On February 26 2015 20:29 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 20:28 ZeratuLsc2 wrote:
Lol, one unit completely denying ALL mining at a base. So good -.- Yeah, much like a Dark Templar (;
Yeah, if T had to completely forgo building any other units to get them.
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Poll: Recommend Dream vs Super Game 3?★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (7) 78% ★- Do not see this game no matter what (1) 11% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 11% ★★★- Good game (0) 0% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% 9 total votes Your vote: Recommend Dream vs Super Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
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Poll: Recommend Dream vs Super Game 4?★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4) 57% ★- Do not see this game no matter what (2) 29% ★★★- Good game (1) 14% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 7 total votes Your vote: Recommend Dream vs Super Game 4? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
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Poll: Recommend Dream vs Super Game 5?★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3) 38% ★- Do not see this game no matter what (2) 25% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2) 25% ★★★- Good game (1) 13% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% 8 total votes Your vote: Recommend Dream vs Super Game 5? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
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On February 26 2015 20:30 Ej_ wrote:
Life only semifinalist not to 3-0. Slump?
I... uh... yeah, sure.
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On February 26 2015 20:30 OsaX Nymloth wrote:
Fuck terrans.
Now waiting for Blizzard to nerf some warpgates (imba, as we just saw) and buff bio/wm even more.
why did super move out from his nat tho, he saw the army coming from the bottom, so risky.
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On February 26 2015 20:31 Jer99 wrote:
Is... Is that it?
is that a Dream quote?
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On February 26 2015 20:31 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 20:30 OsaX Nymloth wrote:
Fuck terrans.
Now waiting for Blizzard to nerf some warpgates (imba, as we just saw) and buff bio/wm even more.
why did super move out from his nat tho, he saw the army coming from the bottom, so risky.
Sorry, can't hear you over the sound of my saltiness and hatred.
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Well, this is what you get on drop friendly map pool as a P player Though there were "questionable" decisions involved in Super play, but play on this order of maps is still suicide.
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i don't get why protosses still think blink before robo is like, the best build. Seems like a big no no
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On February 26 2015 20:32 deacon.frost wrote:Well, this is what you get on drop friendly map pool as a P player Though there were "questionable" decisions involved in Super play, but play on this order of maps is still suicide.
I was gonna whine about the map pool as well, but Super and Dear (and Rain last night), actually just played awful, so maps didn't even matter. Widow Mines are bullshit, though.
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On February 26 2015 20:30 OsaX Nymloth wrote:
Fuck terrans.
Now waiting for Blizzard to nerf some warpgates (imba, as we just saw) and buff bio/wm even more.
Indeed. Super played WAY better than Dream. Still lost, disgusting
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Not too bad, not too bad.
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On February 26 2015 20:33 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
one day of WCS was better than all of these semifinals by a country mile.
hahaha wow
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On February 26 2015 20:33 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 20:30 OsaX Nymloth wrote:
Fuck terrans.
Now waiting for Blizzard to nerf some warpgates (imba, as we just saw) and buff bio/wm even more.
Indeed. Super played WAY better than Dream. Still lost, disgusting
He played badly.
But I will always rage about terrans, no matter what
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On February 26 2015 20:33 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
one day of WCS was better than all of these semifinals by a country mile.
You just can't call Koreans good.
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Wow, Dream is the next Terran bonjwa. The superb decision making he demonstrated in all three games was truly awe inspiring. Especially that move to drop the mines in 2 of the three games was truly a genius move. But lets not forget the game in which he pulled the boys, something we don't see very often vs Protoss. This level of innovation has not been seen since the days of MVP.
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On February 26 2015 20:33 ZeratuLsc2 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 20:32 deacon.frost wrote:Well, this is what you get on drop friendly map pool as a P player Though there were "questionable" decisions involved in Super play, but play on this order of maps is still suicide. I was gonna whine about the map pool as well, but Super and Dear (and Rain last night), actually just played awful, so maps didn't even matter. Widow Mines are bullshit, though.
As the Oracle is, this is why I ignore Blizzards test maps, they are so stubborn in their logic which I hate I hate them too.
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On February 26 2015 20:33 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 20:30 OsaX Nymloth wrote:
Fuck terrans.
Now waiting for Blizzard to nerf some warpgates (imba, as we just saw) and buff bio/wm even more.
Indeed. Super played WAY better than Dream. Still lost, disgusting
Totally. Didn't you see when Super was 100 supply ahead but Dream pulled back thanks to his window mines? Pff, disgusting, disgusting.
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On February 26 2015 20:22 DJHelium wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 20:20 mCon.Hephaistas wrote:On February 26 2015 20:19 DJHelium wrote:On February 26 2015 20:17 mCon.Hephaistas wrote:On February 26 2015 20:16 hborrgg wrote:
lol scan range changes can't come soon enough. I hope not, makes it even easier. But as it is right now it's just random. Some days Super doesn't lose a stalker there, some days he does. It doesn't make sense. u can click on the unit to prevent it right? Yes. I think that's beside the point. If you have a scan range, it should be consistent. Either remove a-move (not going to happen) or don't use a random scan range imo.
I dont agree. I dont like random things either, but I do like little things where good play can get rewarded.
Stutter step also gets way easier when they make this change
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Even GSL Round of 8 last season was closer, there two 3-1's and two 3-0's there.
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so it's Maru vs Life, Stats vs Life, Maru vs Dream or Stats vs Dream. o.O
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On February 26 2015 20:35 mCon.Hephaistas wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 20:22 DJHelium wrote:On February 26 2015 20:20 mCon.Hephaistas wrote:On February 26 2015 20:19 DJHelium wrote:On February 26 2015 20:17 mCon.Hephaistas wrote:On February 26 2015 20:16 hborrgg wrote:
lol scan range changes can't come soon enough. I hope not, makes it even easier. But as it is right now it's just random. Some days Super doesn't lose a stalker there, some days he does. It doesn't make sense. u can click on the unit to prevent it right? Yes. I think that's beside the point. If you have a scan range, it should be consistent. Either remove a-move (not going to happen) or don't use a random scan range imo. I dont agree. I dont like random things either, but I do like little things where good play can get rewarded. Stutter step also gets way easier when they make this change
It doesn't make any sense on stalkers. This makes sense on units like Colossus, where you have absurd range(or Tempest), not on Stalkers, where you have 6 range. It's just wrong.
Though if they change the map pool to be less drop friendly this change can be forgotten. But on maps like Catallena, KSS or Nimbus every bit of help helps ,)
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On February 26 2015 20:20 Pandemona wrote:
Why didn't this Dream turn up to GSL....so confusing xD
Well he turned up in PvT in GSL
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On February 26 2015 20:35 mCon.Hephaistas wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 20:22 DJHelium wrote:On February 26 2015 20:20 mCon.Hephaistas wrote:On February 26 2015 20:19 DJHelium wrote:On February 26 2015 20:17 mCon.Hephaistas wrote:On February 26 2015 20:16 hborrgg wrote:
lol scan range changes can't come soon enough. I hope not, makes it even easier. But as it is right now it's just random. Some days Super doesn't lose a stalker there, some days he does. It doesn't make sense. u can click on the unit to prevent it right? Yes. I think that's beside the point. If you have a scan range, it should be consistent. Either remove a-move (not going to happen) or don't use a random scan range imo. I dont agree. I dont like random things either, but I do like little things where good play can get rewarded. Stutter step also gets way easier when they make this change
I just don't think it's good game design. Having units not doing what you're telling them to isn't rewarding good play imo.
What if, instead of a unit just not firing, we had units exploding randomly when a-moving? It would still reward good play, but terrible design right?
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On February 26 2015 20:35 Thax wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 20:33 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
one day of WCS was better than all of these semifinals by a country mile. You just can't call Koreans good.
Their swarmhost skills are well below par for western players, that's why they can't produce interesting matches. I'm especially disappointed by the poor SH play from Dream and Super.
+ Show Spoiler +Oh god, I can't help myself. When will this joke end?!
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On February 26 2015 20:42 sparklyresidue wrote:
As expected!
Yeah, that's nice for a change
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On February 26 2015 20:39 Ketch wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 20:20 Pandemona wrote:
Why didn't this Dream turn up to GSL....so confusing xD Well he turned up in PvT in GSL
He said in his interview before the match that he didn't practice TvZ but focused entirely on TvP (I guess because he was already in Ro8 in SSL so he set his priorities?). We all saw how well that went-
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To the sad zealot fanclub!
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On February 26 2015 20:55 Fuell wrote:
To the sad zealot fanclub!
Tomorrow 1 Protoss will advance (and probably Maru, so my predictions come True)
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Man, too hard to wake up for this
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On February 26 2015 21:32 c0ldfusion wrote:
Man, too hard to wake up for this
You didn't miss much.
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On February 26 2015 21:32 c0ldfusion wrote:
Man, too hard to wake up for this
I wish I'd slept through it -.-
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On February 26 2015 23:18 swag_bro wrote:
Wow ro4 all kespa players. Looks like that elephant in the room article was right
I expected a better post . You are losing it.
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Damn it. Rip my brotosses
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On February 26 2015 23:38 TheAnarchy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 23:18 swag_bro wrote:
Wow ro4 all kespa players. Looks like that elephant in the room article was right I expected a better post . You are losing it.
He's scared now.
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Life as well as Dream are probably happy about the way the respective other matchup turned out. A TvZ between those two HAS to be great, tbh. Both are just insanely strong in TvZ :o
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On February 26 2015 23:18 swag_bro wrote:
Wow ro4 all kespa players. Looks like that elephant in the room article was right
Life, not the Kespa hero we need, but the Kespa hero we deserve!
Oh wait ...
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On February 26 2015 23:53 Swisslink wrote:
Life as well as Dream are probably happy about the way the respective other matchup turned out. A TvZ between those two HAS to be great, tbh. Both are just insanely strong in TvZ :o
I thought Dream lost 0-4 to Solar and Rogue yesterday, makes me worried D:
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On February 27 2015 01:38 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 23:53 Swisslink wrote:
Life as well as Dream are probably happy about the way the respective other matchup turned out. A TvZ between those two HAS to be great, tbh. Both are just insanely strong in TvZ :o I thought Dream lost 0-4 to Solar and Rogue yesterday, makes me worried D:
Yeah np for Life tbh
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On February 27 2015 01:43 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2015 01:38 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On February 26 2015 23:53 Swisslink wrote:
Life as well as Dream are probably happy about the way the respective other matchup turned out. A TvZ between those two HAS to be great, tbh. Both are just insanely strong in TvZ :o I thought Dream lost 0-4 to Solar and Rogue yesterday, makes me worried D: Yeah np for Life tbh
this is why i think Life will choose NSSL over IEM Katowice if NSSL doesn't reschedule. Bo7 vs a player struggling in TvZ vs a tournament with no preparation and 15 other very strong players.
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On February 27 2015 01:55 Cheren wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2015 01:43 The_Red_Viper wrote:On February 27 2015 01:38 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On February 26 2015 23:53 Swisslink wrote:
Life as well as Dream are probably happy about the way the respective other matchup turned out. A TvZ between those two HAS to be great, tbh. Both are just insanely strong in TvZ :o I thought Dream lost 0-4 to Solar and Rogue yesterday, makes me worried D: Yeah np for Life tbh this is why i think Life will choose NSSL over IEM Katowice if NSSL doesn't reschedule. Bo7 vs a player struggling in TvZ vs a tournament with no preparation and 15 other very strong players.
I hope it somehow works out, so he can play in both, but yeah i think he would choose NSSL too.
It's a korean tournament (i think koreans still value these higher) and winning IEM might even be harder than NSSL at this point :D
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Only KeSPA players left and the possibility of a PvZ final... Well, till next season.
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Meh, don't underestimate Dream. I mean I think that Life will win EZ too because, well, he's Life, but Dream is no slouch in TvZ (having one day off while practicing only TvP won't change that) and with adequate practice he can be dangerous.
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On February 27 2015 02:05 Starecat wrote:
Only KeSPA players left and the possibility of a PvZ final... Well, till next season.
It's going to be a TvZ final. Stats is definitely a great player but Maru is just a whole other level right now.
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checking the recommended games i didn't miss much
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On February 27 2015 02:05 Starecat wrote:
Only KeSPA players left and the possibility of a PvZ final... Well, till next season.
Stop saying that for fucks sake! Both Life and Maru have spent a bigger part of their SC2 careers without KeSPA, in a time when KeSPA openly ignored the mere existence of this game. Life has been acquired by a KeSPA team like a month ago.
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On February 27 2015 02:30 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2015 02:05 Starecat wrote:
Only KeSPA players left and the possibility of a PvZ final... Well, till next season. Stop saying that for fucks sake! Both Life and Maru have spent a bigger part of their SC2 careers without KeSPA, in a time when KeSPA openly ignored the mere existence of this game. Life has been acquired by a KeSPA team like a month ago.
But.. but Life and Maru would have been BW bonjovis if they were old enough, they basically are Kespa and elephants and other animals if you want them to be.
On February 27 2015 02:05 OtherWorld wrote:
Meh, don't underestimate Dream. I mean I think that Life will win EZ too because, well, he's Life, but Dream is no slouch in TvZ (having one day off while practicing only TvP won't change that) and with adequate practice he can be dangerous.
Well i actually think Dream is overhyped quite a lot. He is good, but he is no title contender imo.
Life on the other hand..
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On February 27 2015 03:08 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2015 02:30 opisska wrote:On February 27 2015 02:05 Starecat wrote:
Only KeSPA players left and the possibility of a PvZ final... Well, till next season. Stop saying that for fucks sake! Both Life and Maru have spent a bigger part of their SC2 careers without KeSPA, in a time when KeSPA openly ignored the mere existence of this game. Life has been acquired by a KeSPA team like a month ago. But.. but Life and Maru would have been BW bonjovis if they were old enough, they basically are Kespa and elephants and other animals if you want them to be.
Maru is totally a dropbear. Adorable and yet will happily tear your face off when he drops on you.
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WTF is happening with Dear?
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On February 27 2015 03:45 Tiaraju9 wrote:
WTF is happening with Dear?
Not much, he had to face the best player in the world and lost.
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On February 27 2015 03:46 Zealously wrote:Not much, he had to face the best player in the world and lost.
The Life bias is strong with this one.
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On February 27 2015 03:47 Seeker wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2015 03:46 Zealously wrote:On February 27 2015 03:45 Tiaraju9 wrote:
WTF is happening with Dear? Not much, he had to face the best player in the world and lost. The Life bias is strong with this one.
I only see pure objectivity, his statement is factually correct.
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On February 27 2015 03:47 Seeker wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2015 03:46 Zealously wrote:On February 27 2015 03:45 Tiaraju9 wrote:
WTF is happening with Dear? Not much, he had to face the best player in the world and lost. The Life bias is strong with this one.
Come on, it's hardly a stretch to call him the best player in the world at this po-
Oh, right, the SKT fan
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On February 27 2015 03:58 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2015 03:47 Seeker wrote:On February 27 2015 03:46 Zealously wrote:On February 27 2015 03:45 Tiaraju9 wrote:
WTF is happening with Dear? Not much, he had to face the best player in the world and lost. The Life bias is strong with this one. Come on, it's hardly a stretch to call him the best player in the world at this po- Oh, right, the SKT fan
I am a Life fan AND KT fan and still think it is a stretch to call him THE BEST.
One of the best for sure though
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Well Life does have the most WCS Points so far
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On February 27 2015 04:00 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2015 03:58 Zealously wrote:On February 27 2015 03:47 Seeker wrote:On February 27 2015 03:46 Zealously wrote:On February 27 2015 03:45 Tiaraju9 wrote:
WTF is happening with Dear? Not much, he had to face the best player in the world and lost. The Life bias is strong with this one. Come on, it's hardly a stretch to call him the best player in the world at this po- Oh, right, the SKT fan I am a Life fan AND KT fan and still think it is a stretch to call him THE BEST. One of the best for sure though
It's not really a stretch at all. He's easily the best Zerg right now, and in the end putting him above Maru and Inno isn't unreasonable even if you could easily see it the other way around.
On February 27 2015 04:08 Die4Ever wrote:
Well Life does have the most WCS Points so far
Bomber had the most WCS Points last year
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On February 27 2015 04:00 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2015 03:58 Zealously wrote:On February 27 2015 03:47 Seeker wrote:On February 27 2015 03:46 Zealously wrote:On February 27 2015 03:45 Tiaraju9 wrote:
WTF is happening with Dear? Not much, he had to face the best player in the world and lost. The Life bias is strong with this one. Come on, it's hardly a stretch to call him the best player in the world at this po- Oh, right, the SKT fan I am a Life fan AND KT fan and still think it is a stretch to call him THE BEST. One of the best for sure though
But who may be the best then? If Maru doesn't qualify tomorrow he'll be the only player who is in both Korean leagues and in IEM Katowice.
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Yay! I finally got some liqubets points
Korean bets so much more reliable than foreigner bets ;p
Lame games though. Dear and Super were just outmatched. The semis are looking insane though.
Maru vs Life finals inc
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Crazy that it still hasn't sunken in that Life is the best player in the world atm for some people. No, he's not a bonjwa but overall it's inarguable that he looks the most dominant atm by a significant margin.
- Stands a reasonable chance of winning both Korean leagues.
- Decent SPL record (surprising for Life)
- Blizzcon champ -> 2nd at DH Winter -> IEM champ
- Plays with a handicap of being Zerg + Show Spoiler +
yeah nobody comes close to that right now.
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On February 27 2015 04:12 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Yay! I finally got some liqubets points
Korean bets so much more reliable than foreigner bets ;p
Lame games though. Dear and Super were just outmatched. The semis are looking insane though.
Maru vs Life finals inc
I'm afraid it's going to be Stats vs Life
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On February 27 2015 04:10 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2015 04:00 The_Red_Viper wrote:On February 27 2015 03:58 Zealously wrote:On February 27 2015 03:47 Seeker wrote:On February 27 2015 03:46 Zealously wrote:On February 27 2015 03:45 Tiaraju9 wrote:
WTF is happening with Dear? Not much, he had to face the best player in the world and lost. The Life bias is strong with this one. Come on, it's hardly a stretch to call him the best player in the world at this po- Oh, right, the SKT fan I am a Life fan AND KT fan and still think it is a stretch to call him THE BEST. One of the best for sure though But who may be the best then? If Maru doesn't qualify tomorrow he'll be the only player who is in both Korean leagues and in IEM Katowice.
There is no best player, simple as that.
People always try to crown a best player in the world with the thought of him becoming the bonjwa sc2 needs (?).
Truth is that we probably won't get one and maybe we don't even need one. A handfull of players who are at the top is also quite exciting.
Life surely is ONE if the very best at the moment, but i think Innovation and Maru are on his lvl. (maybe other players too, not sure)
Ofc it could actually happen that he will win all three and shut me up, i just think it's quite unlikely :D
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On February 27 2015 04:12 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:Yay! I finally got some liqubets points Korean bets so much more reliable than foreigner bets ;p Lame games though. Dear and Super were just outmatched. The semis are looking insane though. Maru vs Life finals inc == Crazy that it still hasn't sunken in that Life is the best player in the world atm for some people. No, he's not a bonjwa but overall it's inarguable that he looks the most dominant atm by a significant margin. - Stands a reasonable chance of winning both Korean leagues. - Decent SPL record (surprising for Life) - Blizzcon champ -> 2nd at DH Winter -> IEM champ - Plays with a handicap of being Zerg + Show Spoiler +yeah nobody comes close to that right now.
He plays the manliest race too. That counts.
On February 27 2015 04:17 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2015 04:10 OtherWorld wrote:On February 27 2015 04:00 The_Red_Viper wrote:On February 27 2015 03:58 Zealously wrote:On February 27 2015 03:47 Seeker wrote:On February 27 2015 03:46 Zealously wrote:On February 27 2015 03:45 Tiaraju9 wrote:
WTF is happening with Dear? Not much, he had to face the best player in the world and lost. The Life bias is strong with this one. Come on, it's hardly a stretch to call him the best player in the world at this po- Oh, right, the SKT fan I am a Life fan AND KT fan and still think it is a stretch to call him THE BEST. One of the best for sure though But who may be the best then? If Maru doesn't qualify tomorrow he'll be the only player who is in both Korean leagues and in IEM Katowice. There is no best player, simple as that. People always try to crown a best player in the world with the thought of him becoming the bonjwa sc2 needs (?). Truth is that we probably won't get one and maybe we don't even need one. A handfull of players who are at the top is also quite exciting. Life surely is ONE if the very best at the moment, but i think Innovation and Maru are on his lvl. (maybe other players too, not sure) Ofc it could actually happen that he will win all three and shut me up, i just think it's quite unlikely :D
Ah yeah you can see it like that.
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if Life wins 2/3 of GSL, NSSL, and IEM, he's the best there is. not just now, but at SC2 period.
Even a hater like me would have to admit that.
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On February 27 2015 03:58 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2015 03:47 Seeker wrote:On February 27 2015 03:46 Zealously wrote:On February 27 2015 03:45 Tiaraju9 wrote:
WTF is happening with Dear? Not much, he had to face the best player in the world and lost. The Life bias is strong with this one. Come on, it's hardly a stretch to call him the best player in the world at this po- Oh, right, the SKT fan
Too bad it's actually stats!
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On February 27 2015 03:08 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2015 02:30 opisska wrote:On February 27 2015 02:05 Starecat wrote:
Only KeSPA players left and the possibility of a PvZ final... Well, till next season. Stop saying that for fucks sake! Both Life and Maru have spent a bigger part of their SC2 careers without KeSPA, in a time when KeSPA openly ignored the mere existence of this game. Life has been acquired by a KeSPA team like a month ago. But.. but Life and Maru would have been BW bonjovis if they were old enough, they basically are Kespa and elephants and other animals if you want them to be.
they were cute little kittens when the elephant article was written, now they're cheetahs or lions or whoever is king of the savanna/jungle
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On February 27 2015 05:26 Cheren wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2015 03:08 The_Red_Viper wrote:On February 27 2015 02:30 opisska wrote:On February 27 2015 02:05 Starecat wrote:
Only KeSPA players left and the possibility of a PvZ final... Well, till next season. Stop saying that for fucks sake! Both Life and Maru have spent a bigger part of their SC2 careers without KeSPA, in a time when KeSPA openly ignored the mere existence of this game. Life has been acquired by a KeSPA team like a month ago. But.. but Life and Maru would have been BW bonjovis if they were old enough, they basically are Kespa and elephants and other animals if you want them to be. they were cute little kittens when the elephant article was written, now they're cheetahs or lions or whoever is king of the savanna/jungle
If I remember right people used to compare Life Maru and Creator to gen 1 pokemon starters back in like 2012. I guess Life and Maru are now a Charizard and Blastoise while Bulbasaur/Venusaur has fallen off after a quick start
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On February 27 2015 04:32 Popkiller wrote:
if Life wins 2/3 of GSL, NSSL, and IEM, he's the best there is. not just now, but at SC2 period.
Even a hater like me would have to admit that.
Don't forget winning SPL to top it off. Life cannot be stopped now.
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On February 27 2015 04:14 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2015 04:12 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Yay! I finally got some liqubets points
Korean bets so much more reliable than foreigner bets ;p
Lame games though. Dear and Super were just outmatched. The semis are looking insane though.
Maru vs Life finals inc I'm afraid it's going to be Stats vs Life
KT finals yes
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On February 27 2015 07:09 Silvana wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2015 04:14 Shellshock wrote:On February 27 2015 04:12 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Yay! I finally got some liqubets points
Korean bets so much more reliable than foreigner bets ;p
Lame games though. Dear and Super were just outmatched. The semis are looking insane though.
Maru vs Life finals inc I'm afraid it's going to be Stats vs Life KT finals yes
best KT
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On February 27 2015 05:29 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2015 05:26 Cheren wrote:On February 27 2015 03:08 The_Red_Viper wrote:On February 27 2015 02:30 opisska wrote:On February 27 2015 02:05 Starecat wrote:
Only KeSPA players left and the possibility of a PvZ final... Well, till next season. Stop saying that for fucks sake! Both Life and Maru have spent a bigger part of their SC2 careers without KeSPA, in a time when KeSPA openly ignored the mere existence of this game. Life has been acquired by a KeSPA team like a month ago. But.. but Life and Maru would have been BW bonjovis if they were old enough, they basically are Kespa and elephants and other animals if you want them to be. they were cute little kittens when the elephant article was written, now they're cheetahs or lions or whoever is king of the savanna/jungle If I remember right people used to compare Life Maru and Creator to gen 1 pokemon starters back in like 2012. I guess Life and Maru are now a Charizard and Blastoise while Bulbasaur/Venusaur has fallen off after a quick start
but I thought squirtle was supposed to be one of the starters
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On February 27 2015 07:09 Silvana wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2015 04:14 Shellshock wrote:On February 27 2015 04:12 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Yay! I finally got some liqubets points
Korean bets so much more reliable than foreigner bets ;p
Lame games though. Dear and Super were just outmatched. The semis are looking insane though.
Maru vs Life finals inc I'm afraid it's going to be Stats vs Life KT finals yes
Haha nah pls don't do this :D
I mean Stats is a really good player (undervalued tbh), but Life vs Maru is just way more hype ^^
We need it!!
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you know what? I think the Maru vs. Life rivalry works for the new Flash vs. jaedong, we have a kt player, while Jin Air sponsors what used to be team 8, which formed out of the ashes of Oz(among other teams).
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On February 27 2015 07:11 JamesT wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2015 05:29 Shellshock wrote:On February 27 2015 05:26 Cheren wrote:On February 27 2015 03:08 The_Red_Viper wrote:On February 27 2015 02:30 opisska wrote:On February 27 2015 02:05 Starecat wrote:
Only KeSPA players left and the possibility of a PvZ final... Well, till next season. Stop saying that for fucks sake! Both Life and Maru have spent a bigger part of their SC2 careers without KeSPA, in a time when KeSPA openly ignored the mere existence of this game. Life has been acquired by a KeSPA team like a month ago. But.. but Life and Maru would have been BW bonjovis if they were old enough, they basically are Kespa and elephants and other animals if you want them to be. they were cute little kittens when the elephant article was written, now they're cheetahs or lions or whoever is king of the savanna/jungle If I remember right people used to compare Life Maru and Creator to gen 1 pokemon starters back in like 2012. I guess Life and Maru are now a Charizard and Blastoise while Bulbasaur/Venusaur has fallen off after a quick start but I thought squirtle was supposed to be one of the starters
yeah but he's fully evolved now nearing 3 years later
(I know Maru played in 2010. The comparisons just started happening around TSL4 time in 2012)
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On February 27 2015 07:18 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2015 07:11 JamesT wrote:On February 27 2015 05:29 Shellshock wrote:On February 27 2015 05:26 Cheren wrote:On February 27 2015 03:08 The_Red_Viper wrote:On February 27 2015 02:30 opisska wrote:On February 27 2015 02:05 Starecat wrote:
Only KeSPA players left and the possibility of a PvZ final... Well, till next season. Stop saying that for fucks sake! Both Life and Maru have spent a bigger part of their SC2 careers without KeSPA, in a time when KeSPA openly ignored the mere existence of this game. Life has been acquired by a KeSPA team like a month ago. But.. but Life and Maru would have been BW bonjovis if they were old enough, they basically are Kespa and elephants and other animals if you want them to be. they were cute little kittens when the elephant article was written, now they're cheetahs or lions or whoever is king of the savanna/jungle If I remember right people used to compare Life Maru and Creator to gen 1 pokemon starters back in like 2012. I guess Life and Maru are now a Charizard and Blastoise while Bulbasaur/Venusaur has fallen off after a quick start but I thought squirtle was supposed to be one of the starters yeah but he's fully evolved now nearing 3 years later (I know Maru played in 2010. The comparisons just started happening around TSL4 time in 2012)
To be fair Maru didn't really start breaking out until 2012
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On February 27 2015 01:38 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 23:53 Swisslink wrote:
Life as well as Dream are probably happy about the way the respective other matchup turned out. A TvZ between those two HAS to be great, tbh. Both are just insanely strong in TvZ :o I thought Dream lost 0-4 to Solar and Rogue yesterday, makes me worried D:
Those are Zergs. Dream is a monster when it comes to PvT, probably better than Polt, Mvp, Maru, MarineKing and Taeja at their primes in terms of PvT. This guy is a PvT monster that can't be stopped. Dream would win GSL if he played PvT and TvT only. He needs to work on his TvZ, but it's kind of hard since he does not have any in form zergs to practice with right now. Soulkey got kicked out of SKT and soO is somewhat irrelevant these days.
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On February 27 2015 07:32 swag_bro wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2015 01:38 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On February 26 2015 23:53 Swisslink wrote:
Life as well as Dream are probably happy about the way the respective other matchup turned out. A TvZ between those two HAS to be great, tbh. Both are just insanely strong in TvZ :o I thought Dream lost 0-4 to Solar and Rogue yesterday, makes me worried D: Those are Zergs. Dream is a monster when it comes to PvT, probably better than Polt, Mvp, Maru, MarineKing and Taeja at their primes in terms of PvT. This guy is a PvT monster that can't be stopped. Dream would win GSL if he played PvT and TvT only. He needs to work on his TvZ, but it's kind of hard since he does not have any in form zergs to practice with right now. Soulkey got kicked out of SKT and soO is somewhat irrelevant these days.
To be honest, SKT is the only PL-team to have at least two very capable Zergs in Dark & soO right now. Dark has decent ZvT, and just because soO doesn't play many games right now, doesn't mean he suddenly turned completely incapable. Dream has always been an extremely capable TvP player, famously knocking Rain out of Code A after Rain made the Ro4 in GSL, but his other matchups have never been that good. The fact he's now also a very capable TvT and TvZ player might just be due to having Innovation/Dark/soO as teammates, but you can't expect them to turn a below-average TvZ'er (for Korean standards) to one who handily beats Zergs at any level in just a few months.
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On February 27 2015 07:32 swag_bro wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2015 01:38 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On February 26 2015 23:53 Swisslink wrote:
Life as well as Dream are probably happy about the way the respective other matchup turned out. A TvZ between those two HAS to be great, tbh. Both are just insanely strong in TvZ :o I thought Dream lost 0-4 to Solar and Rogue yesterday, makes me worried D: Those are Zergs. Dream is a monster when it comes to PvT, probably better than Polt, Mvp, Maru, MarineKing and Taeja at their primes in terms of PvT. This guy is a PvT monster that can't be stopped. Dream would win GSL if he played PvT and TvT only. He needs to work on his TvZ, but it's kind of hard since he does not have any in form zergs to practice with right now. Soulkey got kicked out of SKT and soO is somewhat irrelevant these days.
Next level bait
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On February 27 2015 07:10 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2015 07:09 Silvana wrote:On February 27 2015 04:14 Shellshock wrote:On February 27 2015 04:12 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Yay! I finally got some liqubets points
Korean bets so much more reliable than foreigner bets ;p
Lame games though. Dear and Super were just outmatched. The semis are looking insane though.
Maru vs Life finals inc I'm afraid it's going to be Stats vs Life KT finals yes best KT
LOL you mean dreamjwa finals
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On February 26 2015 19:17 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 19:16 dazed25 wrote:
These casters talking out of their asses. Stats wouldn't be replaced unless he's playing in individual leagues. He is KT's second best player atm. Going to have to be between TY and Flash and I think they will feature Flash more since he has a higher ceiling of play. i mean are you the KT coach? we have no fucking clue what they'll do
Am I?! Though any one with common sense would have assumed that scenario most likely. The casters just completely skipped over the fact that Stats has been very solid this year beating Inno and making it to RO4 in NSSL. Then again same casters like to call Dream and Dark Top 2 Players for their race.
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On February 27 2015 07:16 JamesT wrote:
you know what? I think the Maru vs. Life rivalry works for the new Flash vs. jaedong, we have a kt player, while Jin Air sponsors what used to be team 8, which formed out of the ashes of Oz(among other teams).
Kind of, except the new JD is 3x bigger than the new flash lol.
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