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On February 16 2015 12:15 brickrd wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2015 12:13 D-light wrote:
Congrats TLO for going 2-3 against this Brazilian terran.
I always believed in you. fortunately when playing in "groups" you are compared to the entire group otherwise it would be a "single elim bracket". crazy stuff i know
you can't compare him to the entire group when he didn't play the entire group...
this is why round robin's better in theory even though in reality you have thrown and irrelevant matches
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No Kelazhur )': So close, so close
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On February 16 2015 12:21 Circumstance wrote:
Note the lack of outrage for EU holding groups on weekdays. Because when NA is treated as the lowest priority, we don't freak out the way some OTHER regions do when they're treated as any priority besides the absolute highest. I am outraged that VODS exist.
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...what can i say the man got turned on by the quality of games.
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On February 16 2015 12:15 brickrd wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2015 12:13 D-light wrote:
Congrats TLO for going 2-3 against this Brazilian terran.
I always believed in you. fortunately when playing in "groups" you are compared to the entire group otherwise it would be a "single elim bracket". crazy stuff i know
"The entire group" as in "not Polt" for TLO and "not Jim" for Kelazhur. I might have said it before, but this wouldn't have happened in RR.
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On February 16 2015 19:54 Xoronius wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2015 12:15 brickrd wrote:On February 16 2015 12:13 D-light wrote:
Congrats TLO for going 2-3 against this Brazilian terran.
I always believed in you. fortunately when playing in "groups" you are compared to the entire group otherwise it would be a "single elim bracket". crazy stuff i know "The entire group" as in "not Polt" for TLO and "not Jim" for Kelazhur. I might have said it before, but this wouldn't have happened in RR.
we could've a wonderful 3 way ties and eliminating kelazhur and jim with coin toss, how wonderful it'd ve been.
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On February 16 2015 19:54 Xoronius wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2015 12:15 brickrd wrote:On February 16 2015 12:13 D-light wrote:
Congrats TLO for going 2-3 against this Brazilian terran.
I always believed in you. fortunately when playing in "groups" you are compared to the entire group otherwise it would be a "single elim bracket". crazy stuff i know "The entire group" as in "not Polt" for TLO and "not Jim" for Kelazhur. I might have said it before, but this wouldn't have happened in RR.
Also Dark is 2-2 vs MMA in GSL, and yet MMA is in Ro8. How sick is that.
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On February 16 2015 20:39 Nebuchad wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2015 19:54 Xoronius wrote:On February 16 2015 12:15 brickrd wrote:On February 16 2015 12:13 D-light wrote:
Congrats TLO for going 2-3 against this Brazilian terran.
I always believed in you. fortunately when playing in "groups" you are compared to the entire group otherwise it would be a "single elim bracket". crazy stuff i know "The entire group" as in "not Polt" for TLO and "not Jim" for Kelazhur. I might have said it before, but this wouldn't have happened in RR. Also Dark is 2-2 vs MMA in GSL, and yet MMA is in Ro8. How sick is that.
to be fair the GSL setup where you can meet the same opponent in two group stages right after the other is something which actually really is sick and something which is explicitly avoided in lots of competitions/sports.
edit: ... let me check the Handbook if that is something which can happen here as well...
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On February 16 2015 19:54 Xoronius wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2015 12:15 brickrd wrote:On February 16 2015 12:13 D-light wrote:
Congrats TLO for going 2-3 against this Brazilian terran.
I always believed in you. fortunately when playing in "groups" you are compared to the entire group otherwise it would be a "single elim bracket". crazy stuff i know "The entire group" as in "not Polt" for TLO and "not Jim" for Kelazhur. I might have said it before, but this wouldn't have happened in RR.
Aeromi should tweet about RR too :D
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On February 16 2015 21:56 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2015 19:54 Xoronius wrote:On February 16 2015 12:15 brickrd wrote:On February 16 2015 12:13 D-light wrote:
Congrats TLO for going 2-3 against this Brazilian terran.
I always believed in you. fortunately when playing in "groups" you are compared to the entire group otherwise it would be a "single elim bracket". crazy stuff i know "The entire group" as in "not Polt" for TLO and "not Jim" for Kelazhur. I might have said it before, but this wouldn't have happened in RR. Aeromi should tweet about RR too :D
Unfortunately to my knowledge Aeromi doesn't share the correct opinion on this issue.
On February 16 2015 20:24 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2015 19:54 Xoronius wrote:On February 16 2015 12:15 brickrd wrote:On February 16 2015 12:13 D-light wrote:
Congrats TLO for going 2-3 against this Brazilian terran.
I always believed in you. fortunately when playing in "groups" you are compared to the entire group otherwise it would be a "single elim bracket". crazy stuff i know "The entire group" as in "not Polt" for TLO and "not Jim" for Kelazhur. I might have said it before, but this wouldn't have happened in RR. we could've a wonderful 3 way ties and eliminating kelazhur and jim with coin toss, how wonderful it'd ve been.
Speculation. Also do you want to bet on what happened more often: A player getting unfairly eliminated by a coin toss or a player getting unfairly elimated by facing different opposition in a "group"? I can remember two incidents of coin toss: LucifroN and Bischu. The rematch issue is happening pretty much each week.
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On February 17 2015 00:06 Xoronius wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2015 21:56 The_Red_Viper wrote:On February 16 2015 19:54 Xoronius wrote:On February 16 2015 12:15 brickrd wrote:On February 16 2015 12:13 D-light wrote:
Congrats TLO for going 2-3 against this Brazilian terran.
I always believed in you. fortunately when playing in "groups" you are compared to the entire group otherwise it would be a "single elim bracket". crazy stuff i know "The entire group" as in "not Polt" for TLO and "not Jim" for Kelazhur. I might have said it before, but this wouldn't have happened in RR. Aeromi should tweet about RR too :D Unfortunately to my knowledge Aeromi doesn't share the correct opinion on this issue.
Sounds like a fun concept.
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On February 17 2015 00:07 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2015 00:06 Xoronius wrote:On February 16 2015 21:56 The_Red_Viper wrote:On February 16 2015 19:54 Xoronius wrote:On February 16 2015 12:15 brickrd wrote:On February 16 2015 12:13 D-light wrote:
Congrats TLO for going 2-3 against this Brazilian terran.
I always believed in you. fortunately when playing in "groups" you are compared to the entire group otherwise it would be a "single elim bracket". crazy stuff i know "The entire group" as in "not Polt" for TLO and "not Jim" for Kelazhur. I might have said it before, but this wouldn't have happened in RR. Aeromi should tweet about RR too :D Unfortunately to my knowledge Aeromi doesn't share the correct opinion on this issue. Sounds like a fun concept.
There are always 2 opinions on stuff: My own and a false one.
But seriously, the wording here has more to do with my history of discussion regarding this over the last 3-4 years than with actually believing in the concept of a "correct opinion".
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On February 17 2015 00:13 Xoronius wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2015 00:07 OtherWorld wrote:On February 17 2015 00:06 Xoronius wrote:On February 16 2015 21:56 The_Red_Viper wrote:On February 16 2015 19:54 Xoronius wrote:On February 16 2015 12:15 brickrd wrote:On February 16 2015 12:13 D-light wrote:
Congrats TLO for going 2-3 against this Brazilian terran.
I always believed in you. fortunately when playing in "groups" you are compared to the entire group otherwise it would be a "single elim bracket". crazy stuff i know "The entire group" as in "not Polt" for TLO and "not Jim" for Kelazhur. I might have said it before, but this wouldn't have happened in RR. Aeromi should tweet about RR too :D Unfortunately to my knowledge Aeromi doesn't share the correct opinion on this issue. Sounds like a fun concept. There are always 2 opinions on stuff: My own and a false one. But seriously, the wording here has more to do with my history of discussion regarding this over the last 3-4 years than with actually believing in the concept of a "correct opinion".
Round Robin would be nicer if it wasn't for all the problems of meaningless matches and matches were it might be theoretically good for one player to intentionally lose, sure you can avoid that to some extent by having team mates play first (works if not 3 in 1 group) but what if Player A is already through and just wants to make sure player B is eliminated to increase his/his teammates chances later on and therefore loses to player C. Or Player A is a friend of player B etc.
The issue is not only actually really happening, it is that there will be suspicions about player A doing it intentionally even when he played legit, inducing unwarranted drama.
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On February 17 2015 00:13 Xoronius wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2015 00:07 OtherWorld wrote:On February 17 2015 00:06 Xoronius wrote:On February 16 2015 21:56 The_Red_Viper wrote:On February 16 2015 19:54 Xoronius wrote:On February 16 2015 12:15 brickrd wrote:On February 16 2015 12:13 D-light wrote:
Congrats TLO for going 2-3 against this Brazilian terran.
I always believed in you. fortunately when playing in "groups" you are compared to the entire group otherwise it would be a "single elim bracket". crazy stuff i know "The entire group" as in "not Polt" for TLO and "not Jim" for Kelazhur. I might have said it before, but this wouldn't have happened in RR. Aeromi should tweet about RR too :D Unfortunately to my knowledge Aeromi doesn't share the correct opinion on this issue. Sounds like a fun concept. There are always 2 opinions on stuff: My own and a false one. But seriously, the wording here has more to do with my history of discussion regarding this over the last 3-4 years than with actually believing in the concept of a "correct opinion".
Haha; You're at it again Xoro? Maybe we should just post our private messages about this if it comes up so that everyone has all the pro's and cons of both formats :D
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On February 17 2015 00:35 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2015 00:13 Xoronius wrote:On February 17 2015 00:07 OtherWorld wrote:On February 17 2015 00:06 Xoronius wrote:On February 16 2015 21:56 The_Red_Viper wrote:On February 16 2015 19:54 Xoronius wrote:On February 16 2015 12:15 brickrd wrote:On February 16 2015 12:13 D-light wrote:
Congrats TLO for going 2-3 against this Brazilian terran.
I always believed in you. fortunately when playing in "groups" you are compared to the entire group otherwise it would be a "single elim bracket". crazy stuff i know "The entire group" as in "not Polt" for TLO and "not Jim" for Kelazhur. I might have said it before, but this wouldn't have happened in RR. Aeromi should tweet about RR too :D Unfortunately to my knowledge Aeromi doesn't share the correct opinion on this issue. Sounds like a fun concept. There are always 2 opinions on stuff: My own and a false one. But seriously, the wording here has more to do with my history of discussion regarding this over the last 3-4 years than with actually believing in the concept of a "correct opinion". Haha; You're at it again Xoro? Maybe we should just post our private messages about this if it comes up so that everyone has all the pro's and cons of both formats :D
People complained about BL/Infestor, until it was gone and I am determined to do the same with the GSL format. As the self-proclaimed prophet of Round Robin it is my duty to do so.
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On February 17 2015 00:57 Xoronius wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2015 00:35 Penev wrote:On February 17 2015 00:13 Xoronius wrote:On February 17 2015 00:07 OtherWorld wrote:On February 17 2015 00:06 Xoronius wrote:On February 16 2015 21:56 The_Red_Viper wrote:On February 16 2015 19:54 Xoronius wrote:On February 16 2015 12:15 brickrd wrote:On February 16 2015 12:13 D-light wrote:
Congrats TLO for going 2-3 against this Brazilian terran.
I always believed in you. fortunately when playing in "groups" you are compared to the entire group otherwise it would be a "single elim bracket". crazy stuff i know "The entire group" as in "not Polt" for TLO and "not Jim" for Kelazhur. I might have said it before, but this wouldn't have happened in RR. Aeromi should tweet about RR too :D Unfortunately to my knowledge Aeromi doesn't share the correct opinion on this issue. Sounds like a fun concept. There are always 2 opinions on stuff: My own and a false one. But seriously, the wording here has more to do with my history of discussion regarding this over the last 3-4 years than with actually believing in the concept of a "correct opinion". Haha; You're at it again Xoro? Maybe we should just post our private messages about this if it comes up so that everyone has all the pro's and cons of both formats :D People complained about BL/Infestor, until it was gone and I am determined to do the same with the GSL format. As the self-proclaimed prophet of Round Robin it is my duty to do so.
I'm pretty sure that the GSL guys still have PTSD from the Naniwa vs Nestea everytime they hear "Round Robin", so yeah good luck with killing the GSL format d:
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On February 17 2015 01:20 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2015 00:57 Xoronius wrote:On February 17 2015 00:35 Penev wrote:On February 17 2015 00:13 Xoronius wrote:On February 17 2015 00:07 OtherWorld wrote:On February 17 2015 00:06 Xoronius wrote:On February 16 2015 21:56 The_Red_Viper wrote:On February 16 2015 19:54 Xoronius wrote:On February 16 2015 12:15 brickrd wrote:On February 16 2015 12:13 D-light wrote:
Congrats TLO for going 2-3 against this Brazilian terran.
I always believed in you. fortunately when playing in "groups" you are compared to the entire group otherwise it would be a "single elim bracket". crazy stuff i know "The entire group" as in "not Polt" for TLO and "not Jim" for Kelazhur. I might have said it before, but this wouldn't have happened in RR. Aeromi should tweet about RR too :D Unfortunately to my knowledge Aeromi doesn't share the correct opinion on this issue. Sounds like a fun concept. There are always 2 opinions on stuff: My own and a false one. But seriously, the wording here has more to do with my history of discussion regarding this over the last 3-4 years than with actually believing in the concept of a "correct opinion". Haha; You're at it again Xoro? Maybe we should just post our private messages about this if it comes up so that everyone has all the pro's and cons of both formats :D People complained about BL/Infestor, until it was gone and I am determined to do the same with the GSL format. As the self-proclaimed prophet of Round Robin it is my duty to do so. I'm pretty sure that the GSL guys still have PTSD from the Naniwa vs Nestea everytime they hear "Round Robin", so yeah good luck with killing the GSL format d:
Naniwa vs Nestea only happens when a player isn't professional, you can deal with that as it happens (just ban him)
RR is just superior and i don't even think this is an opinion at all, i would look at it as a fact
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On February 17 2015 03:14 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2015 01:20 OtherWorld wrote:On February 17 2015 00:57 Xoronius wrote:On February 17 2015 00:35 Penev wrote:On February 17 2015 00:13 Xoronius wrote:On February 17 2015 00:07 OtherWorld wrote:On February 17 2015 00:06 Xoronius wrote:On February 16 2015 21:56 The_Red_Viper wrote:On February 16 2015 19:54 Xoronius wrote:On February 16 2015 12:15 brickrd wrote:
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fortunately when playing in "groups" you are compared to the entire group otherwise it would be a "single elim bracket". crazy stuff i know "The entire group" as in "not Polt" for TLO and "not Jim" for Kelazhur. I might have said it before, but this wouldn't have happened in RR. Aeromi should tweet about RR too :D Unfortunately to my knowledge Aeromi doesn't share the correct opinion on this issue. Sounds like a fun concept. There are always 2 opinions on stuff: My own and a false one. But seriously, the wording here has more to do with my history of discussion regarding this over the last 3-4 years than with actually believing in the concept of a "correct opinion". Haha; You're at it again Xoro? Maybe we should just post our private messages about this if it comes up so that everyone has all the pro's and cons of both formats :D People complained about BL/Infestor, until it was gone and I am determined to do the same with the GSL format. As the self-proclaimed prophet of Round Robin it is my duty to do so. I'm pretty sure that the GSL guys still have PTSD from the Naniwa vs Nestea everytime they hear "Round Robin", so yeah good luck with killing the GSL format d: Naniwa vs Nestea only happens when a player isn't professional, you can deal with that as it happens (just ban him) RR is just superior and i don't even think this is an opinion at all, i would look at it as a fact
Wowowow easy there. While I agree with your first statement, the second one needs further explanation. If it is a fact and not an opinion, can you point me to some factual/scientific/scientific-ish evidence?
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lol i always hate when the stupid format arguments happen lol
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