[ASL] Prime League Season 3 - Page 14

On December 24 2014 07:43 ASL wrote:
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT:

Sacsri was a no show with no contact so we had to forfeit him. We used all contact method possible to get ahold of him and his team mYi.

Jaedong had an emergency from what i understand, and we may be able to reschedule their match.

HuK will be getting a bye to Semi Finals according to rules but we can still salvage match 1 perhaps. No broadcast today, but we will reschedule it!

Sorry

On December 24 2014 07:45 TheDwf wrote:

Lol...

On December 24 2014 11:49 olimoley wrote:

It would have been nice if you could have informed your players what was going on. Ryung tells me he was never given a proper reason why his match was rescheduled.

As always, please contact me through skype when you have a new date for his match.

On December 24 2014 21:32 ASL wrote:


We didn't have all the details at that time. All we knew was Jaedong contacted the Player Coordinator and said he has some personal issue and cannot make match 1 hour before it started. Ryung was given all the details we had at the time. We did not want to waste his time so we said he could leave we will be in touch because JD had some issue.
The other player was just a no show and gave no contact to us. Therefore automatic forfeit.

On December 24 2014 23:38 TotalBiscuit wrote:


Which you then reversed a day later. You can understand why that does not come across well.

On December 25 2014 09:20 ASL wrote:


What? We didn't forfeit Jaedong. We forfeited Sacsri. We told Ryung he can go and we will be in contact about match. There was no reversal sir.

On December 27 2014 12:35 TotalBiscuit wrote:


Be very careful with statements you make publicly like that. We have the Skype logs showing that you did indeed forfeit Jaedong due to a personal situation he was having. Ryung showed up for his match on time. Jaedong did not. You told our player this and said he was done You then reversed the decision 5 hours later (decision made at 7am, reversal at 12pm KST) which confused and annoyed our player. This was further confirmed in the tournament in-game chat by a second ASL staffer. Now looking at these logs, at best, you used inaccurate language when talking to our player. At worst, you made an irresponsible claim which you later had to reverse. There is no forfeit, because you changed your decision, but to say that there was no reversal of your decision is false. Our player will compete, the match will happen, but I do not appreciate efforts to white-wash an administrative fumble on your part. If this kind of thing happens again, don't give a player a walkover which you then have to take back, ask about reschedule immediately. You throw players right out of their competitive mindset with things like this. Especially against an opponent like Jaedong, preparation is needed, don't jerk players around please.

On December 27 2014 07:42 Shandathe wrote:
This tournament isn't having much luck, at the very least.

@Elche, the player doesn't work properly either (at least over here). Twitch works much better. Ryung vs. Jaedong is up according to the calendar, anyone know what happened there?

On December 27 2014 15:28 ASL wrote:


I don't know who you have been talking to or what authority they claim to have But Sabre (ASL Director and founder) told Ryung in game that he can go and we will sort match details out later and be in contact with him. That evening Sabre asked Maru Kim (MaSa) to translate to Jaedong so we can officially determine if a rematch was valid or not. If you wish to discuss this with Sabre personally. Feel free to Skype him at Sabre24q7 or email him Sabre[@]ASLstarcraft[.]com
In fact I highly recommend contacting him because this situation is getting out of hand and it seems you are getting your information from a bad source.

Thank you

On December 27 2014 16:52 thewhiskey wrote:
I know there has been some issues with communication, and as nobody outside of that communication knows the whole truth, I won't share my opinion as it could be based on wrong/missing facts.

BUT, one thing I will say is that the tournament has potential for some great stories and great games. It sounds like whatever issues were present need to be solved, even though that probably means either one or both parties need to meet in a compromise. Sounds unfair? Agreed, but forfeiting yet another player like this will really ruin the tournament, especially a profile like Jaedong.

I know it must suck for Ryung, if he is the victim of all of this, but as a viewer I would lose a lot of interest in the tournament if another forfeit happened, especially if based on misunderstandings. If viewers lose interest, so would the gains of winning, in terms of reputation, exposure etc.

I am hoping for parties to acknowledge each others issues with the other, and then agree to move on for the tournament's sake.

(one thing though ASL, please update dates, times etc. on Liquipedia, threads and other pages, as these wrong dates pose another big risk of losing the audience. I myself waited for an hour last night to watch the games, to no avail).

Good luck with the tournament.

On December 27 2014 16:52 thewhiskey wrote:
I know there has been some issues with communication, and as nobody outside of that communication knows the whole truth, I won't share my opinion as it could be based on wrong/missing facts.

BUT, one thing I will say is that the tournament has potential for some great stories and great games. It sounds like whatever issues were present need to be solved, even though that probably means either one or both parties need to meet in a compromise. Sounds unfair? Agreed, but forfeiting yet another player like this will really ruin the tournament, especially a profile like Jaedong.

I know it must suck for Ryung, if he is the victim of all of this, but as a viewer I would lose a lot of interest in the tournament if another forfeit happened, especially if based on misunderstandings. If viewers lose interest, so would the gains of winning, in terms of reputation, exposure etc.

I am hoping for parties to acknowledge each others issues with the other, and then agree to move on for the tournament's sake.

(one thing though ASL, please update dates, times etc. on Liquipedia, threads and other pages, as these wrong dates pose another big risk of losing the audience. I myself waited for an hour last night to watch the games, to no avail).

Good luck with the tournament.