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loft
Profile Joined July 2009
United States344 Posts
November 20 2014 19:43 GMT
#61
Nathanias is ... on painkillers?
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
November 20 2014 19:43 GMT
#62
Seriously though, congrats to Lilbow, not many foreigners could even take on Solar
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
ClueClueClue
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Sweden1203 Posts
November 20 2014 19:45 GMT
#63
On November 21 2014 04:43 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Seriously though, congrats to Lilbow, not many foreigners could even take on Solar


Not many koreans can...! Really impressive tbh, it felt like watching Scarlett play.
Cogito, ergo toss.
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
November 20 2014 19:45 GMT
#64
Happy to see Lilbow going through (even though Solar isn't out yet). The frenchies have been fucked by the drawing, there is a justice. :p
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
November 20 2014 19:49 GMT
#65
On November 21 2014 04:45 ClueClueClue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2014 04:43 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Seriously though, congrats to Lilbow, not many foreigners could even take on Solar


Not many koreans can...! Really impressive tbh, it felt like watching Scarlett play.


So Scarlett is the gold standard for foreign protoss now... it's really come to this
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
November 20 2014 19:51 GMT
#66
surprised by the performance of lilbow
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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Spinoza
Profile Joined October 2010
667 Posts
November 20 2014 19:54 GMT
#67
Lilbow was brilliant, one of the better PvZ series of late (those forcefields man!).

The big surprise for me though was Nathanias and DeMuslim casting: very nice combination of personalities between the two of them.
FanTaSy | Flash | Movie | Leta | Stork | Map:Destination[BW]
ClueClueClue
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Sweden1203 Posts
November 20 2014 19:55 GMT
#68
On November 21 2014 04:49 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2014 04:45 ClueClueClue wrote:
On November 21 2014 04:43 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Seriously though, congrats to Lilbow, not many foreigners could even take on Solar


Not many koreans can...! Really impressive tbh, it felt like watching Scarlett play.


So Scarlett is the gold standard for foreign protoss now... it's really come to this


When the best foreigner picks the best race, beautiful things happen.
Cogito, ergo toss.
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
November 20 2014 19:59 GMT
#69
i dont know a lot about lilbow but i know ive heard before he was apparently the naniwa account on EU with an insane winrate and now he beats solar who supposedly has some of the worlds best zvp. whats holding lilbow back from being a top foreigner if he's so talented? just inconsistent?
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ClueClueClue
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Sweden1203 Posts
November 20 2014 20:07 GMT
#70
On November 21 2014 04:59 brickrd wrote:
i dont know a lot about lilbow but i know ive heard before he was apparently the naniwa account on EU with an insane winrate and now he beats solar who supposedly has some of the worlds best zvp. whats holding lilbow back from being a top foreigner if he's so talented? just inconsistent?


He's still not used to the tournament environment, I guess. Nerves, lack of preparation, exploitable weaknesses - whatever holds him back, I'm sure it's something that will vanish with time and experience.
Cogito, ergo toss.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
November 20 2014 20:07 GMT
#71
On November 21 2014 04:55 ClueClueClue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2014 04:49 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On November 21 2014 04:45 ClueClueClue wrote:
On November 21 2014 04:43 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Seriously though, congrats to Lilbow, not many foreigners could even take on Solar


Not many koreans can...! Really impressive tbh, it felt like watching Scarlett play.


So Scarlett is the gold standard for foreign protoss now... it's really come to this


When the best foreigner picks the best race, beautiful things happen.


Neither of those things are true.
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
ClueClueClue
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Sweden1203 Posts
November 20 2014 20:11 GMT
#72
On November 21 2014 05:07 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2014 04:55 ClueClueClue wrote:
On November 21 2014 04:49 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On November 21 2014 04:45 ClueClueClue wrote:
On November 21 2014 04:43 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Seriously though, congrats to Lilbow, not many foreigners could even take on Solar


Not many koreans can...! Really impressive tbh, it felt like watching Scarlett play.


So Scarlett is the gold standard for foreign protoss now... it's really come to this


When the best foreigner picks the best race, beautiful things happen.


Neither of those things are true.


Snute probably has a pretty mean terran too.
Cogito, ergo toss.
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
November 20 2014 21:39 GMT
#73
On November 21 2014 05:07 ClueClueClue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2014 04:59 brickrd wrote:
i dont know a lot about lilbow but i know ive heard before he was apparently the naniwa account on EU with an insane winrate and now he beats solar who supposedly has some of the worlds best zvp. whats holding lilbow back from being a top foreigner if he's so talented? just inconsistent?


He's still not used to the tournament environment, I guess. Nerves, lack of preparation, exploitable weaknesses - whatever holds him back, I'm sure it's something that will vanish with time and experience.

Except for the "it'll go away with time" part, you nailed it. It doesn't always go away with time, but things like nerves and build variation are the difference. A build that wrecks on ladder can often be predicted in tournaments, and a build that can surprise you in a tournament is too inconsistent on ladder. And, of course, when you're not thinking about "how do I beat this random Zerg", but rather, "how do I beat Solar", that changes your whole mindset. If Lilbow could get onto a team that sticks, he could become great. But then, he could just as easily become Demuslism.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
ClueClueClue
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Sweden1203 Posts
November 20 2014 23:19 GMT
#74
On November 21 2014 06:39 Circumstance wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2014 05:07 ClueClueClue wrote:
On November 21 2014 04:59 brickrd wrote:
i dont know a lot about lilbow but i know ive heard before he was apparently the naniwa account on EU with an insane winrate and now he beats solar who supposedly has some of the worlds best zvp. whats holding lilbow back from being a top foreigner if he's so talented? just inconsistent?


He's still not used to the tournament environment, I guess. Nerves, lack of preparation, exploitable weaknesses - whatever holds him back, I'm sure it's something that will vanish with time and experience.

Except for the "it'll go away with time" part, you nailed it. It doesn't always go away with time, but things like nerves and build variation are the difference. A build that wrecks on ladder can often be predicted in tournaments, and a build that can surprise you in a tournament is too inconsistent on ladder. And, of course, when you're not thinking about "how do I beat this random Zerg", but rather, "how do I beat Solar", that changes your whole mindset. If Lilbow could get onto a team that sticks, he could become great. But then, he could just as easily become Demuslism.


Yeah, it's true that every player doesn't necessarily evolve in that direction, but I'm hoping for his sake that he pulls a Bunny!
Cogito, ergo toss.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24592 Posts
November 21 2014 17:02 GMT
#75
Gogo madde! Maybe if their power goes out you have a chance x.x
RBreaker
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden94 Posts
November 21 2014 17:07 GMT
#76
We had to replace Miniraser with Kas and Zanster with Slivko. Games live!
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24592 Posts
November 21 2014 17:10 GMT
#77
On November 22 2014 02:07 RBreaker wrote:
We had to replace Miniraser with Kas and Zanster with Slivko. Games live!


What happened to mini? Did he start playing in the EPS instead?
RBreaker
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden94 Posts
November 21 2014 17:12 GMT
#78
On November 22 2014 02:10 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2014 02:07 RBreaker wrote:
We had to replace Miniraser with Kas and Zanster with Slivko. Games live!


What happened to mini? Did he start playing in the EPS instead?


Zotac
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24592 Posts
November 21 2014 17:24 GMT
#79
What are the casters talking about? I was afking a bit. Did someone say something special?
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
November 21 2014 17:41 GMT
#80
Kas has one of the weirdest distinctions of any pro player - he is the only one to get a Bronze Triple Crown, taking 3rd place in tournaments in all 3 regions.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
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