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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
November 01 2014 20:42 GMT
#3921
On November 02 2014 05:32 wUndertUnge wrote:
Who is supposed to be updating the bracket on the OP?

Those are the matches, the results are further down
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
November 01 2014 20:42 GMT
#3922
On November 02 2014 05:40 Xoronius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 05:38 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On November 02 2014 05:36 Lorning wrote:
On November 02 2014 05:35 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On November 02 2014 05:35 TheDwf wrote:
On November 02 2014 05:33 pure.Wasted wrote:
Is the current map pool considered Terran-favored in TvZ or just TvP?

Depends if you ask Terrans or Zergs^

It doesn't matter because we suck as a whole.

Speak for yourself please, I'm top level

In what world is 8 offensive nexi "top level"?

8 offensive nexi into losing is 4 times 2 offensive nexi into losing, so one could argue, that Lorning is 4 times as good as Dear. That argument might have slight flaws, though.

You know your math
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vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
November 01 2014 20:42 GMT
#3923
MC is going to get bopped.
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24192 Posts
November 01 2014 20:42 GMT
#3924
On November 02 2014 05:40 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 05:39 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On November 02 2014 05:38 stuchiu wrote:
On November 02 2014 05:37 Musicus wrote:
On November 02 2014 05:35 the p00n wrote:
Quick question: I actually haven't played or followed starcraft 2 in years and years (stopped long before HotS was released) but have been watching this event. Terran still seems to be extremely dominant, is this because MMA and Bomber were simply the better players or did their race play a large role in their dominant victories? I couldn't help but overhear Bomber saying in the interview that 'it was a good match-up'.

P.S. - funny to see how the meta hasn't changed that much, still seeing the same triple CC mass reactor rax bioball


Terran actually was suffering a lot and only started to dominate again recently after a bunch of Protoss nerfs and Terran buffs. Before that Zerg was dominating at the end of WoL and Protoss dominated HotS.


Zerg has probably been the weakest race throughout the year, but thank god we have soO.

soO's the reason we don't get buffed.


The worse the race, the more godlike our 1 good player looks.


Anyone who reaches 4 GSL finals in a row looks godlike, and legitimately so.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
November 01 2014 20:42 GMT
#3925
On November 02 2014 05:41 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 05:40 TheDwf wrote:
On November 02 2014 05:38 pure.Wasted wrote:
On November 02 2014 05:35 TheDwf wrote:
On November 02 2014 05:33 pure.Wasted wrote:
Is the current map pool considered Terran-favored in TvZ or just TvP?

Depends if you ask Terrans or Zergs^


OK, follow-up question: people have been saying for years that the bigger a map, the harder it is for Terran because of reinforcing distance. This is by far the biggest map pool we've ever had, with only one map being smaller than Whirlwind... so is map size not that big a deal after all?

The rally distance is only very long on Catallena (when Zerg takes the furthest fourth) and Deadwing. It also works both ways, if for instance you lose a fight on cross Deadwing as a Terran, Zerg won't be immediately in your base with the counter.


Well, unless you're soO killing Flash.

fucking soO, stop breaking the winrates
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
November 01 2014 20:42 GMT
#3926
On November 02 2014 05:42 Swisslink wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 05:40 Yorkie wrote:
On November 02 2014 05:38 stuchiu wrote:
On November 02 2014 05:37 Musicus wrote:
On November 02 2014 05:35 the p00n wrote:
Quick question: I actually haven't played or followed starcraft 2 in years and years (stopped long before HotS was released) but have been watching this event. Terran still seems to be extremely dominant, is this because MMA and Bomber were simply the better players or did their race play a large role in their dominant victories? I couldn't help but overhear Bomber saying in the interview that 'it was a good match-up'.

P.S. - funny to see how the meta hasn't changed that much, still seeing the same triple CC mass reactor rax bioball


Terran actually was suffering a lot and only started to dominate again recently after a bunch of Protoss nerfs and Terran buffs. Before that Zerg was dominating at the end of WoL and Protoss dominated HotS.


Zerg has probably been the weakest race throughout the year, but thank god we have soO.

Nobody ever talks about how zerg has been the weakest for a bit now. We're like the forgotten middle child


In regard to the results, Zerg has probably been the weakest month ever since HotS was released, weren't they?

zerg expansion killed zerg.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
November 01 2014 20:42 GMT
#3927
On November 02 2014 05:41 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 05:39 Swisslink wrote:
On November 02 2014 05:36 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On November 02 2014 05:35 TheDwf wrote:
On November 02 2014 05:33 pure.Wasted wrote:
Is the current map pool considered Terran-favored in TvZ or just TvP?

Depends if you ask Terrans or Zergs^


Anything that favors T drop play also favors muta play, so TvZ isn't as much affected as TvP. On Nimbus you basically have to hope the T messes up or play Phoenix colossi. It's a fundamentally bad map for this match-up, far more than Yeonsu.


Wouldn't totally agree on that. Some maps are better for dropping then defending against drops, imo. :-P


I know very little about TvZ since I play P, but what I mean is what gives you drop opportunities should open symmetric muta harass opportunities. This does not hold for TvP where harass is more done via zealots warp-ins.


TvZ balance depends solely on this.

How Hyun are you, really?
Moderator
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
November 01 2014 20:42 GMT
#3928
On November 02 2014 05:40 Yorkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 05:38 stuchiu wrote:
On November 02 2014 05:37 Musicus wrote:
On November 02 2014 05:35 the p00n wrote:
Quick question: I actually haven't played or followed starcraft 2 in years and years (stopped long before HotS was released) but have been watching this event. Terran still seems to be extremely dominant, is this because MMA and Bomber were simply the better players or did their race play a large role in their dominant victories? I couldn't help but overhear Bomber saying in the interview that 'it was a good match-up'.

P.S. - funny to see how the meta hasn't changed that much, still seeing the same triple CC mass reactor rax bioball


Terran actually was suffering a lot and only started to dominate again recently after a bunch of Protoss nerfs and Terran buffs. Before that Zerg was dominating at the end of WoL and Protoss dominated HotS.


Zerg has probably been the weakest race throughout the year, but thank god we have soO.

Nobody ever talks about how zerg has been the weakest for a bit now. We're like the forgotten middle child

Head over the Battle.net forums to test that theory^
Jazzman88
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada2228 Posts
November 01 2014 20:43 GMT
#3929
On November 02 2014 05:42 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 05:41 stuchiu wrote:
On November 02 2014 05:40 TheDwf wrote:
On November 02 2014 05:38 pure.Wasted wrote:
On November 02 2014 05:35 TheDwf wrote:
On November 02 2014 05:33 pure.Wasted wrote:
Is the current map pool considered Terran-favored in TvZ or just TvP?

Depends if you ask Terrans or Zergs^


OK, follow-up question: people have been saying for years that the bigger a map, the harder it is for Terran because of reinforcing distance. This is by far the biggest map pool we've ever had, with only one map being smaller than Whirlwind... so is map size not that big a deal after all?

The rally distance is only very long on Catallena (when Zerg takes the furthest fourth) and Deadwing. It also works both ways, if for instance you lose a fight on cross Deadwing as a Terran, Zerg won't be immediately in your base with the counter.


Well, unless you're soO killing Flash.

fucking soO, stop breaking the winrates


Literally Taeja 2.0.
juvenal
Profile Joined July 2013
2448 Posts
November 01 2014 20:43 GMT
#3930
Just read some pages, fuck is stuchio annoying. Tears gonna be sweat tho, bomber's law shall prevail.
Michael Probu
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
November 01 2014 20:43 GMT
#3931
On November 02 2014 05:41 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 05:40 Yorkie wrote:
On November 02 2014 05:38 stuchiu wrote:
On November 02 2014 05:37 Musicus wrote:
On November 02 2014 05:35 the p00n wrote:
Quick question: I actually haven't played or followed starcraft 2 in years and years (stopped long before HotS was released) but have been watching this event. Terran still seems to be extremely dominant, is this because MMA and Bomber were simply the better players or did their race play a large role in their dominant victories? I couldn't help but overhear Bomber saying in the interview that 'it was a good match-up'.

P.S. - funny to see how the meta hasn't changed that much, still seeing the same triple CC mass reactor rax bioball


Terran actually was suffering a lot and only started to dominate again recently after a bunch of Protoss nerfs and Terran buffs. Before that Zerg was dominating at the end of WoL and Protoss dominated HotS.


Zerg has probably been the weakest race throughout the year, but thank god we have soO.

Nobody ever talks about how zerg has been the weakest for a bit now. We're like the forgotten middle child

You guys have the best foreigners

Can't be blamed for that. Step it up foreign protosses! Happy and Bunny are looking good for terran
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
djraphi23
Profile Joined August 2013
France2262 Posts
November 01 2014 20:43 GMT
#3932
MC's hair style is a disaster ...
Polt | Bomber | MMA | Taeja | Maru | TY | Byun | Innovation
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
November 01 2014 20:43 GMT
#3933
On November 02 2014 05:41 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 05:40 Xoronius wrote:
On November 02 2014 05:38 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On November 02 2014 05:36 Lorning wrote:
On November 02 2014 05:35 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On November 02 2014 05:35 TheDwf wrote:
On November 02 2014 05:33 pure.Wasted wrote:
Is the current map pool considered Terran-favored in TvZ or just TvP?

Depends if you ask Terrans or Zergs^

It doesn't matter because we suck as a whole.

Speak for yourself please, I'm top level

In what world is 8 offensive nexi "top level"?

8 offensive nexi into losing is 4 times 2 offensive nexi into losing, so one could argue, that Lorning is 4 times as good as Dear. That argument might have slight flaws, though.

I'm angry because I held off his proxy gate in the game after and then just played like an idiot.

I know, I watched that series. Kinda got me back into playing as well; to see that you guys aren't all 200 times better than me.
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
November 01 2014 20:43 GMT
#3934
On November 02 2014 05:42 Swisslink wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 05:40 Yorkie wrote:
On November 02 2014 05:38 stuchiu wrote:
On November 02 2014 05:37 Musicus wrote:
On November 02 2014 05:35 the p00n wrote:
Quick question: I actually haven't played or followed starcraft 2 in years and years (stopped long before HotS was released) but have been watching this event. Terran still seems to be extremely dominant, is this because MMA and Bomber were simply the better players or did their race play a large role in their dominant victories? I couldn't help but overhear Bomber saying in the interview that 'it was a good match-up'.

P.S. - funny to see how the meta hasn't changed that much, still seeing the same triple CC mass reactor rax bioball


Terran actually was suffering a lot and only started to dominate again recently after a bunch of Protoss nerfs and Terran buffs. Before that Zerg was dominating at the end of WoL and Protoss dominated HotS.


Zerg has probably been the weakest race throughout the year, but thank god we have soO.

Nobody ever talks about how zerg has been the weakest for a bit now. We're like the forgotten middle child


In regard to the results, Zerg has probably been the weakest month ever since HotS was released, weren't they?

Zergs are doing pretty well at the moment in korean cups and qualifiers.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
November 01 2014 20:43 GMT
#3935
i picked bomber and MMA and i also picked MC. what up, MC win incoming
TL+ Member
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
November 01 2014 20:43 GMT
#3936
On November 02 2014 05:42 royalroadweed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 05:39 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On November 02 2014 05:38 pure.Wasted wrote:
On November 02 2014 05:35 TheDwf wrote:
On November 02 2014 05:33 pure.Wasted wrote:
Is the current map pool considered Terran-favored in TvZ or just TvP?

Depends if you ask Terrans or Zergs^


OK, follow-up question: people have been saying for years that the bigger a map, the harder it is for Terran because of reinforcing distance. This is by far the biggest map pool we've ever had, with only one map being smaller than Whirlwind... so is map size not that big a deal after all?


Those maps aren't that huge, and huge maps like Deadwing are indeed hard for T.

I don't think deadwing is that bad for T. The ledges and the seige spots make it pretty good close spawn.


The Gumiho build makes it imba for terran!
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
November 01 2014 20:43 GMT
#3937
On November 02 2014 05:43 Yorkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 05:41 Darkhorse wrote:
On November 02 2014 05:40 Yorkie wrote:
On November 02 2014 05:38 stuchiu wrote:
On November 02 2014 05:37 Musicus wrote:
On November 02 2014 05:35 the p00n wrote:
Quick question: I actually haven't played or followed starcraft 2 in years and years (stopped long before HotS was released) but have been watching this event. Terran still seems to be extremely dominant, is this because MMA and Bomber were simply the better players or did their race play a large role in their dominant victories? I couldn't help but overhear Bomber saying in the interview that 'it was a good match-up'.

P.S. - funny to see how the meta hasn't changed that much, still seeing the same triple CC mass reactor rax bioball


Terran actually was suffering a lot and only started to dominate again recently after a bunch of Protoss nerfs and Terran buffs. Before that Zerg was dominating at the end of WoL and Protoss dominated HotS.


Zerg has probably been the weakest race throughout the year, but thank god we have soO.

Nobody ever talks about how zerg has been the weakest for a bit now. We're like the forgotten middle child

You guys have the best foreigners

Can't be blamed for that. Step it up foreign protosses! Happy and Bunny are looking good for terran

Harstem coulda been...
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Talaris
Profile Joined March 2011
Switzerland753 Posts
November 01 2014 20:43 GMT
#3938
On November 02 2014 05:38 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 05:36 Lorning wrote:
On November 02 2014 05:35 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On November 02 2014 05:35 TheDwf wrote:
On November 02 2014 05:33 pure.Wasted wrote:
Is the current map pool considered Terran-favored in TvZ or just TvP?

Depends if you ask Terrans or Zergs^

It doesn't matter because we suck as a whole.

Speak for yourself please, I'm top level

In what world is 8 offensive nexi "top level"?


Sim City ? :o)
-= Jaedong // HerO // HasuObs // Unholy Alliance =-
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
November 01 2014 20:43 GMT
#3939
On November 02 2014 05:42 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 05:40 Yorkie wrote:
On November 02 2014 05:38 stuchiu wrote:
On November 02 2014 05:37 Musicus wrote:
On November 02 2014 05:35 the p00n wrote:
Quick question: I actually haven't played or followed starcraft 2 in years and years (stopped long before HotS was released) but have been watching this event. Terran still seems to be extremely dominant, is this because MMA and Bomber were simply the better players or did their race play a large role in their dominant victories? I couldn't help but overhear Bomber saying in the interview that 'it was a good match-up'.

P.S. - funny to see how the meta hasn't changed that much, still seeing the same triple CC mass reactor rax bioball


Terran actually was suffering a lot and only started to dominate again recently after a bunch of Protoss nerfs and Terran buffs. Before that Zerg was dominating at the end of WoL and Protoss dominated HotS.


Zerg has probably been the weakest race throughout the year, but thank god we have soO.

Nobody ever talks about how zerg has been the weakest for a bit now. We're like the forgotten middle child

Head over the Battle.net forums to test that theory^

I think I can just go ahead and do that Mufasa thing and say, "Those are the Battle.net forums. You must never go there Simba"
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
November 01 2014 20:43 GMT
#3940
On November 02 2014 05:42 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 05:40 Yorkie wrote:
On November 02 2014 05:38 stuchiu wrote:
On November 02 2014 05:37 Musicus wrote:
On November 02 2014 05:35 the p00n wrote:
Quick question: I actually haven't played or followed starcraft 2 in years and years (stopped long before HotS was released) but have been watching this event. Terran still seems to be extremely dominant, is this because MMA and Bomber were simply the better players or did their race play a large role in their dominant victories? I couldn't help but overhear Bomber saying in the interview that 'it was a good match-up'.

P.S. - funny to see how the meta hasn't changed that much, still seeing the same triple CC mass reactor rax bioball


Terran actually was suffering a lot and only started to dominate again recently after a bunch of Protoss nerfs and Terran buffs. Before that Zerg was dominating at the end of WoL and Protoss dominated HotS.


Zerg has probably been the weakest race throughout the year, but thank god we have soO.

Nobody ever talks about how zerg has been the weakest for a bit now. We're like the forgotten middle child

Head over the Battle.net forums to test that theory^

Oh I never go there. It just seems that here on TL it's either "Protoss OP Terran UP!" or vice versa.
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
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