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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
November 01 2014 20:36 GMT
#3861
Alright time for the longshot prediction of the ro16!

MC 3-2! Let's go!

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KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-01 20:36:45
November 01 2014 20:36 GMT
#3862
On November 02 2014 05:35 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 05:33 Yorkie wrote:
On November 02 2014 05:32 stuchiu wrote:
On November 02 2014 05:30 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On November 02 2014 05:29 Yorkie wrote:
On November 02 2014 05:29 DJHelium wrote:
On November 02 2014 05:27 Yorkie wrote:
If Polt AND Jjakji advance you can start the terran OP discussion a bit but until then I don't like it


Yeah if best player in the world advances vs San suddenly terran is op? Please....

+ Show Spoiler +
:D

I said if both those terrans advance we can start a DISCUSSION about terran imbalance haha. Not saying they are or aren't.


Discussing about Terran imbalance is pointless. T match-ups are perfectly fine on good maps.

We could talk about how dreadful Nimbus and Catallena are though.


Fucking terrible.

All agree?

I thought so.

Nimbus is the best map in the pool to counter pick against protoss. Baits them into nexus first so I can win with a ten pool. Sup DLO?


I heard you didnt 10 pool every map. What a failure.

He almost won on Catallena with a Roach ling attack that got into the natural.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
November 01 2014 20:36 GMT
#3863
On November 02 2014 05:35 the p00n wrote:
Quick question: I actually haven't played or followed starcraft 2 in years and years (stopped long before HotS was released) but have been watching this event. Terran still seems to be extremely dominant, is this because MMA and Bomber were simply the better players or did their race play a large role in their dominant victories? I couldn't help but overhear Bomber saying in the interview that 'it was a good match-up'.

P.S. - funny to see how the meta hasn't changed that much, still seeing the same triple CC mass reactor rax bioball

Terran is at a bit of a peak at this point but I wouldn't say "still seems extremely dominant" because while you were gone Terran has gone through some huge valleys and Zerg and Protoss have had their moments as the dominant races.
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Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
November 01 2014 20:36 GMT
#3864
On November 02 2014 05:35 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 05:35 TheDwf wrote:
On November 02 2014 05:33 pure.Wasted wrote:
Is the current map pool considered Terran-favored in TvZ or just TvP?

Depends if you ask Terrans or Zergs^

It doesn't matter because we suck as a whole.

Speak for yourself please, I'm top level
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
November 01 2014 20:36 GMT
#3865
On November 02 2014 05:33 Doublemint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 05:30 stuchiu wrote:
On November 02 2014 05:29 Ej_ wrote:
On November 02 2014 05:28 stuchiu wrote:
On November 02 2014 05:26 deacon.frost wrote:
On November 02 2014 05:24 stuchiu wrote:
On November 02 2014 05:23 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
you know i try never to complain about maps and just get over it but this map doesn't seem 100% balanced.


still better than Yoensu.

Nope, nope and nope. There is a reason why almost every TvP this map is banned. And this time the spawn position were good. This map is a nightmare and those authors who create maps with so much free airspace should burn in hell!



What I couldnt hear you over the blink stalkers.

well technically he's right, Yeonsu's TvP winrate was closer to 50% than Catallena's


Thank you Polt, Taeja and Maru.


55% PvT vs. 38% PvT. Legit claim :p

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/hots/maps/620_DF_Yeonsu

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/hots/maps/673_Catallena



286 games compared to 58. Important to note.
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y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-01 20:37:13
November 01 2014 20:36 GMT
#3866
On November 02 2014 05:36 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 05:34 y0su wrote:
I gotta say... passionstone and wow hype videos doesn't do much for me

Seltzer's in the Passionstone and WoW videos! THAT has to increase your passion.

she's not my type (look at my profile)
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8726 Posts
November 01 2014 20:36 GMT
#3867
On November 02 2014 05:35 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 05:34 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Is artosis still a top Hearthstone player?


Nah, he doesn't play that much. At Seatstory cup, he used aggressive decks that weren't updated for the meta, some play mistakes. Didn't do well.


He did the only reasonable thing. As soon as he was on top of the world he retired. Kind of like Fruitdealer.
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
November 01 2014 20:37 GMT
#3868
On November 02 2014 05:35 the p00n wrote:
Quick question: I actually haven't played or followed starcraft 2 in years and years (stopped long before HotS was released) but have been watching this event. Terran still seems to be extremely dominant, is this because MMA and Bomber were simply the better players or did their race play a large role in their dominant victories? I couldn't help but overhear Bomber saying in the interview that 'it was a good match-up'.

P.S. - funny to see how the meta hasn't changed that much, still seeing the same triple CC mass reactor rax bioball


Meta has changed a lot and gone back and changed again. And now, Terran isn't OP (maybe by the slightest margin but not much) MMA and BOmber are jsut better players
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-01 20:37:37
November 01 2014 20:37 GMT
#3869
On November 02 2014 05:35 the p00n wrote:
Quick question: I actually haven't played or followed starcraft 2 in years and years (stopped long before HotS was released) but have been watching this event. Terran still seems to be extremely dominant, is this because MMA and Bomber were simply the better players or did their race play a large role in their dominant victories? I couldn't help but overhear Bomber saying in the interview that 'it was a good match-up'.

P.S. - funny to see how the meta hasn't changed that much, still seeing the same triple CC mass reactor rax bioball


I think general consensus is that terrans are slightly favored (not a lot, best player usually wins imo) with the current map pool. However neither Jaedong or Stardust are the top players of their races, soO, Zest and herO are the ones to look out for this WCS finals!
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
November 01 2014 20:37 GMT
#3870
On November 02 2014 05:35 the p00n wrote:
Quick question: I actually haven't played or followed starcraft 2 in years and years (stopped long before HotS was released) but have been watching this event. Terran still seems to be extremely dominant, is this because MMA and Bomber were simply the better players or did their race play a large role in their dominant victories? I couldn't help but overhear Bomber saying in the interview that 'it was a good match-up'.

P.S. - funny to see how the meta hasn't changed that much, still seeing the same triple CC mass reactor rax bioball

Bomber and MMA were both favored, but it is possible that terran is the strongest race atm. it's not by much imo though so don't expect to see terran stomps all the way through
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
November 01 2014 20:37 GMT
#3871
On November 02 2014 05:36 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 05:35 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On November 02 2014 05:35 TheDwf wrote:
On November 02 2014 05:33 pure.Wasted wrote:
Is the current map pool considered Terran-favored in TvZ or just TvP?

Depends if you ask Terrans or Zergs^

It doesn't matter because we suck as a whole.

Speak for yourself please, I'm top level

The only reason you don't compete is to give the other nerds a chance...
kiss kiss fall in love
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
November 01 2014 20:37 GMT
#3872
On November 02 2014 05:35 the p00n wrote:
Quick question: I actually haven't played or followed starcraft 2 in years and years (stopped long before HotS was released) but have been watching this event. Terran still seems to be extremely dominant, is this because MMA and Bomber were simply the better players or did their race play a large role in their dominant victories? I couldn't help but overhear Bomber saying in the interview that 'it was a good match-up'.

P.S. - funny to see how the meta hasn't changed that much, still seeing the same triple CC mass reactor rax bioball

Terran might have a very slight edge at the moment, but MMA/Bomber were also favored to win their series, because they are better players than their opponents, when they are in top shape.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32746 Posts
November 01 2014 20:37 GMT
#3873
Sadly can't LR anymore but I will be watching stream. Gogo Polt, Zest, soO and HyuN.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
November 01 2014 20:37 GMT
#3874
On November 02 2014 05:35 the p00n wrote:
Quick question: I actually haven't played or followed starcraft 2 in years and years (stopped long before HotS was released) but have been watching this event. Terran still seems to be extremely dominant, is this because MMA and Bomber were simply the better players or did their race play a large role in their dominant victories? I couldn't help but overhear Bomber saying in the interview that 'it was a good match-up'.

P.S. - funny to see how the meta hasn't changed that much, still seeing the same triple CC mass reactor rax bioball


Terran actually was suffering a lot and only started to dominate again recently after a bunch of Protoss nerfs and Terran buffs. Before that Zerg was dominating at the end of WoL and Protoss dominated HotS.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
November 01 2014 20:37 GMT
#3875
others have correct mark for MMA winning but I don't (I have got points now tho)
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
November 01 2014 20:37 GMT
#3876
On November 02 2014 05:36 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 05:35 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On November 02 2014 05:35 TheDwf wrote:
On November 02 2014 05:33 pure.Wasted wrote:
Is the current map pool considered Terran-favored in TvZ or just TvP?

Depends if you ask Terrans or Zergs^

It doesn't matter because we suck as a whole.

What?

I'm saying that Zergs are just not having a good year.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
November 01 2014 20:37 GMT
#3877
On November 02 2014 05:36 Yorkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 05:35 stuchiu wrote:
On November 02 2014 05:33 Yorkie wrote:
On November 02 2014 05:32 stuchiu wrote:
On November 02 2014 05:30 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On November 02 2014 05:29 Yorkie wrote:
On November 02 2014 05:29 DJHelium wrote:
On November 02 2014 05:27 Yorkie wrote:
If Polt AND Jjakji advance you can start the terran OP discussion a bit but until then I don't like it


Yeah if best player in the world advances vs San suddenly terran is op? Please....

+ Show Spoiler +
:D

I said if both those terrans advance we can start a DISCUSSION about terran imbalance haha. Not saying they are or aren't.


Discussing about Terran imbalance is pointless. T match-ups are perfectly fine on good maps.

We could talk about how dreadful Nimbus and Catallena are though.


Fucking terrible.

All agree?

I thought so.

Nimbus is the best map in the pool to counter pick against protoss. Baits them into nexus first so I can win with a ten pool. Sup DLO?


I heard you didnt 10 pool every map. What a failure.

But I literally pulled off the perfect scenario in the game I won. Notice me senpai


good work son guy.
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
November 01 2014 20:37 GMT
#3878
On November 02 2014 05:36 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 05:35 the p00n wrote:
Quick question: I actually haven't played or followed starcraft 2 in years and years (stopped long before HotS was released) but have been watching this event. Terran still seems to be extremely dominant, is this because MMA and Bomber were simply the better players or did their race play a large role in their dominant victories? I couldn't help but overhear Bomber saying in the interview that 'it was a good match-up'.

P.S. - funny to see how the meta hasn't changed that much, still seeing the same triple CC mass reactor rax bioball


I would argue that both Bomber and MMA were the favorites based on recent form

Oh yeah also this Bomber and MMA definitely won the series because they are better players these days.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
November 01 2014 20:38 GMT
#3879
On November 02 2014 05:36 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 05:35 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On November 02 2014 05:35 TheDwf wrote:
On November 02 2014 05:33 pure.Wasted wrote:
Is the current map pool considered Terran-favored in TvZ or just TvP?

Depends if you ask Terrans or Zergs^

It doesn't matter because we suck as a whole.

Speak for yourself please, I'm top level

In what world is 8 offensive nexi "top level"?
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
AWalker9
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United Kingdom7229 Posts
November 01 2014 20:38 GMT
#3880
On November 02 2014 05:36 Video2000 wrote:
I think Classic has a pretty good chance if he shows more of his v excellent stargate style.. Agree that maps favor Polt though, but comon, this is also the time for Classic's redemption

Blizzcon: Classic's Redemption (the soOening)
soOjwa has returned to smite all that stand in his way
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