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On September 13 2014 18:25 zerosouL wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2014 18:19 Caihead wrote:
Flash needs to accept that this isn't fixed meta BW 7 years after the last patch and get that rookie mindset again, find new ways to break the meta and not rely on one style, balance is constantly shifting every tournament and every week as thousands of pro players are trying to maximize on the latest patch. It's too bad that the only terrans that actually try different styles (instead of just relying on god like micro like Maru) don't get rewarded (see bbyong). Seems like if you picked protoss and tried different styles you could base an entire career off it (see MC, herO, san, sOs), just is inherent in the way blizzard designed the races with Terran relying so heavily on tier 1 and Protoss relying so much on tech paths. He was just straight up better then everyone else. Hes best progamer ever lived for a reson you know. SC2 is just too dumbed down to make it real progaming enviroment. No wonder why its not possible to dominate is such a way anymore as Flash did for couple of years back. SC2 is slowly dying for a reason.
Oh I haven't seen one of these posts in a while. Welcome !!!!
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On September 13 2014 18:27 REyeM wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2014 18:25 Tanzklaue wrote:On September 13 2014 18:19 Rollora wrote:On September 13 2014 18:02 jonich0n wrote:On September 13 2014 17:59 orvinreyes wrote:
ugh flash still sucks Yeah, 1st place at IEM, 3rd-4th at Kespa Cup, 8th-16th GSL, all soon after stepping up and leading KT to winning Proleague Playoffs with Zest. Shit player, for sure. haha for some viewers a player is only good if he wins everything. Basically there was no good sc2 player yet Mvp Well, most of the things that he has achieved was at the time when the big boys were still playing BW.
that's like saying Boxer wasn't valid because when he played players like jaedong or flash didn't play on a pro level yet.
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On September 13 2014 18:25 ANLProbe wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2014 17:58 Undead1993 wrote:On September 13 2014 17:57 graNite wrote:On September 13 2014 17:49 Ctesias wrote:On September 13 2014 17:48 Going4Gold wrote:
They made Zerg unbeatable before HotS and now Protoss before LotV. What's the point? The game is more balanced now than ever, I'd say. The last patch was great. But I guess you're just looking for a ban. there is a difference in balanced winrates and balanced game. lets say a storm whipes all terran units on the map and terran wins with 50% with 2 rax in tvp we would only see 2rax in tvp every game, have 50% in winrates. would you call in balanced? the missing diversity is really hurting the game! dude really? after flash won the probably most stacked IEM in history and taeja rekt zest you are coming up with that? Shenzhen was more stacked imo.
even if it was, which i do not agree with, a terran still won it, so my point remains
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On September 13 2014 18:24 jonich0n wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2014 18:18 Thrillz wrote:
Really sad that Flash and Maru, possbily Rain, Bogus and even soO won't make to Blizzcon. Damn that's tough. That's pretty incredible to me. All such standout players, and have been for a long time. They just didn't quite tally up enough points in this year's "circuit," which is a shame, surely if they were all at all the big foreign tourneys things would have turned out very different. I can't believe soO quite possibly (or probably?) won't make it, that's gotta be the toughest. Still I'll enjoy Blizzcon, but..
If soO doesn't beat Stats (which I've been hipster picking) then it's a good chance that someone will surpass him. Bogus would pretty much need to win the GSL and Rain probably needs to at least make it to the finals.
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ahahaha this thread, so predictable
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On September 13 2014 17:54 REyeM wrote:Flash is no Maru thats for sure 
had to look up who this Maru guy you are talking about is.
Found out he was whiped the floor with by Flash for qualifying to this tournament.
Also found out he also didn't make it farther in GSL than flash
Also he didn't attempt IEM for no particular reason, which then again...who won it?
Nice troll 
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Gotta love the tosses crying about not being imba atm. Hilarious
User was warned for this post
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On September 13 2014 18:27 zerosouL wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2014 18:22 REyeM wrote:On September 13 2014 18:21 zerosouL wrote:
Sad to see that current meta is so much biased towards toss...as usual. Let the meta wins and not the player himself. GJ. What are you talking about? The racial distribution at the beginning of this tournament was 9/4/3 in favor of protoss... it was mostly likely there would be a PvP final, especially since soO got knocked out And why is that exactly? Caus emeta is still so much biased towards toss? Right.
because protoss were favoured in season 2, which was before the widow mine patch.
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On September 13 2014 18:22 REyeM wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2014 18:21 zerosouL wrote:
Sad to see that current meta is so much biased towards toss...as usual. Let the meta wins and not the player himself. GJ. What are you talking about? The racial distribution at the beginning of this tournament was 9/4/3 in favor of protoss... it was mostly likely there would be a PvP final, especially since soO got knocked out
Qualifiers was actually 35 Protoss - 50 terran - 41 zerg (~7:10:8) into 3 protoss -3 terran - 2 zerg. So it's still disproportional.
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On September 13 2014 18:30 Rollora wrote:had to look up who this Maru guy you are talking about is. Found out he was whiped the floor with by Flash for qualifying to this tournament. Also found out he also didn't make it farther in GSL than flash Also he didn't attempt IEM for no particular reason, which then again...who won it? Nice troll
Except that Maru is actually able to beat top protosses consistently. Also he won OSL, and he can actually get further than the Ro16 in GSL, and he was one of the best players in PL
Flash has been mediocre since he started playing SC2, now he's finally getting decent. Maru's been a top terran for almost 2 years now
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On September 13 2014 18:04 zimms wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2014 17:59 Rollora wrote:
Hahahahaha
Game one: 12 Marines and a Marauder vs 1 Zealot 1 Stalker 1 Sentry, who wins?
Game two 4 widow mines explode on protoss death balls, who wins?
Game three: Proxy rax vs hero skipping zealot, skipping stalker, just cronos it after seeing the bunker, who wins?
ah I love hero ♥ I like how hero managed to pull through against all the odds with the current 55% TvP.
I was actually sure it was higher for Terran, that WM buff really switched the game around
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On September 13 2014 18:30 zerosouL wrote:
Gotta love the tosses crying about not being imba atm. Hilarious
You're the one that's crying the most tho ^^
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On September 13 2014 18:30 Rollora wrote:had to look up who this Maru guy you are talking about is. Found out he was whiped the floor with by Flash for qualifying to this tournament. Also found out he also didn't make it farther in GSL than flash Also he didn't attempt IEM for no particular reason, which then again...who won it? Nice troll
and then you read about him being the best terran for one year straight and that he outperformed everyone else in proleague regardless of race and that he pretty much only stopped raking in big results in august/september.
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On September 13 2014 18:33 Lorning wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2014 18:30 Rollora wrote:On September 13 2014 17:54 REyeM wrote:Flash is no Maru thats for sure had to look up who this Maru guy you are talking about is. Found out he was whiped the floor with by Flash for qualifying to this tournament. Also found out he also didn't make it farther in GSL than flash Also he didn't attempt IEM for no particular reason, which then again...who won it? Nice troll Except that Maru is actually able to beat top protosses consistently. Also he won OSL, and he can actually get further than the Ro16 in GSL, and he was one of the best players in PL Flash has been mediocre since he started playing SC2, now he's finally getting decent. Maru's been a top terran for almost 2 years now http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-tournaments/466130-code-s-ro16-group-c-season-3-2014
yeah obvsly, he always beats good protoss
And no, I don't agree with the last part either, as maru managed it to absolutely show he is the best Terran right now over a long period of time, he also showed that he can completely derp over several weeks, not being able to qualify for several things and so on.
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On September 13 2014 18:27 ANLProbe wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2014 18:27 REyeM wrote:On September 13 2014 18:25 Tanzklaue wrote:On September 13 2014 18:19 Rollora wrote:On September 13 2014 18:02 jonich0n wrote:On September 13 2014 17:59 orvinreyes wrote:
ugh flash still sucks Yeah, 1st place at IEM, 3rd-4th at Kespa Cup, 8th-16th GSL, all soon after stepping up and leading KT to winning Proleague Playoffs with Zest. Shit player, for sure. haha for some viewers a player is only good if he wins everything. Basically there was no good sc2 player yet Mvp Well, most of the things that he has achieved was at the time when the big boys were still playing BW. And when Terran was OP.
I guess you didn't watched GSL 2012 season 2 and 4.
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On September 13 2014 18:34 Rollora wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2014 18:33 Lorning wrote:On September 13 2014 18:30 Rollora wrote:On September 13 2014 17:54 REyeM wrote:Flash is no Maru thats for sure had to look up who this Maru guy you are talking about is. Found out he was whiped the floor with by Flash for qualifying to this tournament. Also found out he also didn't make it farther in GSL than flash Also he didn't attempt IEM for no particular reason, which then again...who won it? Nice troll Except that Maru is actually able to beat top protosses consistently. Also he won OSL, and he can actually get further than the Ro16 in GSL, and he was one of the best players in PL Flash has been mediocre since he started playing SC2, now he's finally getting decent. Maru's been a top terran for almost 2 years now http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-tournaments/466130-code-s-ro16-group-c-season-3-2014 yeah obvsly, he always beats good protoss
I never said always. I said consistently, which is way more than Flash
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Next PR is gonno be a mess that they might just be on a PR hiatus again lmao.
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On September 13 2014 18:35 Lorning wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2014 18:34 Rollora wrote:On September 13 2014 18:33 Lorning wrote:On September 13 2014 18:30 Rollora wrote:On September 13 2014 17:54 REyeM wrote:Flash is no Maru thats for sure had to look up who this Maru guy you are talking about is. Found out he was whiped the floor with by Flash for qualifying to this tournament. Also found out he also didn't make it farther in GSL than flash Also he didn't attempt IEM for no particular reason, which then again...who won it? Nice troll Except that Maru is actually able to beat top protosses consistently. Also he won OSL, and he can actually get further than the Ro16 in GSL, and he was one of the best players in PL Flash has been mediocre since he started playing SC2, now he's finally getting decent. Maru's been a top terran for almost 2 years now http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-tournaments/466130-code-s-ro16-group-c-season-3-2014 yeah obvsly, he always beats good protoss I never said always. I said consistently, which is way more than Flash
Flash's skill set just doesn't translate as well in SC2 compared with BW, I'm more surprised that Fantasy didn't become an instant star in SC2, he was always the much more small scale and multitasking player compared with Flash's shear mechanics.
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On September 13 2014 18:35 Lorning wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2014 18:34 Rollora wrote:On September 13 2014 18:33 Lorning wrote:On September 13 2014 18:30 Rollora wrote:On September 13 2014 17:54 REyeM wrote:Flash is no Maru thats for sure had to look up who this Maru guy you are talking about is. Found out he was whiped the floor with by Flash for qualifying to this tournament. Also found out he also didn't make it farther in GSL than flash Also he didn't attempt IEM for no particular reason, which then again...who won it? Nice troll Except that Maru is actually able to beat top protosses consistently. Also he won OSL, and he can actually get further than the Ro16 in GSL, and he was one of the best players in PL Flash has been mediocre since he started playing SC2, now he's finally getting decent. Maru's been a top terran for almost 2 years now http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-tournaments/466130-code-s-ro16-group-c-season-3-2014 yeah obvsly, he always beats good protoss I never said always. I said consistently, which is way more than Flash
mmkay sorry then
Still the last few weeks he is a bit off, so right now I would count a bit more on flash then on Maru, but their completely different playstyle may would have had different results here. Since Maru didn't even qualify we can definately say two weeks ago flash was definately better, maybe that switched back to maru now, dunno we will see.
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