soO has already publicly given CatZ credit and props for helping him with strategies. I mean the player himself thinks so whats the big deal.
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Thrillz
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soO has already publicly given CatZ credit and props for helping him with strategies. I mean the player himself thinks so whats the big deal. | ||
ROOTCatZ
Peru1226 Posts
On September 12 2014 21:01 Thrillz wrote: Lol why are people trying to give CatZ a hard time anyways. soO has already publicly given CatZ credit and props for helping him with strategies. I mean the player himself thinks so whats the big deal. I'm vocal when I have polarizing opinions, a big ego and tend to respond / interact more than most pros/personalities in the community, so I guess its natural to draw some h8 / trolls | ||
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nimdil
Poland3748 Posts
On September 12 2014 21:01 Thrillz wrote: Lol why are people trying to give CatZ a hard time anyways. soO has already publicly given CatZ credit and props for helping him with strategies. I mean the player himself thinks so whats the big deal. Some people probably thinks that for most of koreans, 99.x% of foreigners are complete noobs. I don't know - it's probably hard to grasp (and believe) how close are elite competitors in something when you never were near the top, especially when you read write ups like Jaedong want to kill his opponent, Stephano rolled over opposition, Zest crashed everyone, Flash released his godly beams of pure light and blinded his opponents etc. etc. While it's just a story for an article, it build quite a different perception of relations between players (I'm heavily speculating here obv.) | ||
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nimdil
Poland3748 Posts
On September 12 2014 21:07 ROOTCatZ wrote: I'm vocal when I have polarizing opinions, a big ego and tend to respond / interact more than most pros/personalities in the community, so I guess its natural to draw some h8 / trolls Blah, I recall I was mad at you when Team Liquid Attack with NaNi switched server because you didn't have EU copy of WoL ![]() Tension can arise for the most stupid reasons. | ||
ZAiNs
United Kingdom6525 Posts
On September 12 2014 21:07 ROOTCatZ wrote: I'm vocal when I have polarizing opinions, a big ego and tend to respond / interact more than most pros/personalities in the community, so I guess its natural to draw some h8 / trolls CatZ you are cool <3. | ||
Yorkie
United States12612 Posts
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movac
Canada494 Posts
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
On September 12 2014 20:14 ROOTCatZ wrote: Whenever someone has used my strats and I know its coming I tweet before or while they do it, not after they win or lose, and it's normally, in this case, soO who approaches me to help him prepare, not the other way around. [1:33:39 AM] Paulo "CatZ" Vizcarra: good night and don't worry about it, just focus GSL [1:34:01 AM] soO: thank you [1:34:03 AM] soO: >< [3:36:52 AM] soO: if you have a good strategy tell me please ![]() [3:36:59 AM] soO: i must beat stats [3:37:00 AM] soO: T_T As I said before I think soO'd be the best zerg in the world right now, with or without my 'help', but when you say I have the privilege of playing and communicating with him it makes it sound like he's the only one doing me a favor here, I think we both in different ways benefit from it - to be quite honest, the exposure for me is pretty nice, even tho I think most people never get to find out where some ideas came from - on top of that soO's a friend and I'm happy to help him if I can, but that help is not only welcome and appreciated, it's also normally requested. **Edit, after reading your previous comment** Idk why I'd even want to hide it was my strategy if they lost with it, they wouldn't use it if it wasn't good / didn't do well in practice while testing it. Solar used my spore rush on habitation station and lost with it for example, but he won every game in practice with it, and I don't think the build ultimately lost him the game, idk why I'd feel bad or hide it, I was very excited just watching that game. I don't just randomly tell them a bo and expect them to do it in the GSL, also a lot of it comes to playstyle not everyone can do everything - soO's pretty open to aggressive ideas where DRG for the most part prefers macro for example, one of the players I talk to might be very comfortable against cannon rush or double rax, where the other one wouldn't 15 hatch and 13 scout because they're not comfortable vs cannon rush from that position for instance, so this strat wouldn't suit them, I discuss more tactics than strategy with DRG where I discuss more BO's with soO, but whenever they use one of my builds or even just tactics that makes me happy, that's a win for me in some ways, regardless of the ultimate outcome, cause that means that they think that's their best shot in that particular game the compliment in that alone and the ego stroke I get for free is nice. I liked you and your answer until this post. If soO beat stats... I'm going to find you ! | ||
lolfail9001
Russian Federation40186 Posts
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ZAiNs
United Kingdom6525 Posts
On September 12 2014 23:40 lolfail9001 wrote: So, after today the Blizzcon chances for Rain, soO and sOs pretty much shatter? sOs is at 12 and will probably make it. soO is at 15 and HAS to win his next GSL match vs Stats and he'll probably make it. Rain has to win GSL to make it (T_______T). | ||
movac
Canada494 Posts
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ZAiNs
United Kingdom6525 Posts
On September 13 2014 00:03 movac wrote: I think sOs will need to show up to stockholm to secure his chances. assuming both Rain and soO wins their ro8 match, their ro4 match will land on stockholm weekend. in which case neither of them can go to stockholm even if they want to unless they the ro4 matches can swapped. I'm sure GSL will be flexible. They did a lot of shuffling for IEM because players in 3 different groups were in it. | ||
Elroi
Sweden5588 Posts
On September 12 2014 19:58 ROOTCatZ wrote: He types decent english, not amazing but we understand each other for the most part + we use replays and actual games so its much easier to point out what we're talking about that way, when we talk strategy like this (BO/BO counter as oppossed to tactics or unit compositions) it's mostly just outlining the build after watching some replays, here's a bit about this particular build: [9/9/2014 10:44:16 PM] Paulo "CatZ" Vizcarra: its only 13 scout normal [9/9/2014 10:44:25 PM] soO: 13? [9/9/2014 10:44:29 PM] Paulo "CatZ" Vizcarra: can later too [9/9/2014 10:44:38 PM] Paulo "CatZ" Vizcarra: but only need for this build: hatch first + scout [9/9/2014 10:44:46 PM] Paulo "CatZ" Vizcarra: I think 13 scout is good, then can hide drone [9/9/2014 10:44:57 PM] soO: oh [9/9/2014 10:44:57 PM] soO: ok [9/9/2014 10:45:11 PM] soO: um.. [9/9/2014 10:45:13 PM] soO: u did 10 scout 1time or 2times [9/9/2014 10:45:13 PM] Paulo "CatZ" Vizcarra: kk just react build [9/9/2014 10:45:25 PM] Paulo "CatZ" Vizcarra: what map? [9/9/2014 10:45:29 PM] soO: merry [9/9/2014 10:45:31 PM] soO: and [9/9/2014 10:45:33 PM] soO: dead wing [9/9/2014 10:45:35 PM] Paulo "CatZ" Vizcarra: hrmmm if 10 scout [9/9/2014 10:45:37 PM] Paulo "CatZ" Vizcarra: maybe because I want to try [9/9/2014 10:45:39 PM] Paulo "CatZ" Vizcarra: TRUE hatch block time [9/9/2014 10:45:39 PM] Paulo "CatZ" Vizcarra: but see nexus > change [9/9/2014 10:45:44 PM] soO: ah [9/9/2014 10:45:47 PM] soO: kk [9/9/2014 10:45:53 PM] Paulo "CatZ" Vizcarra: 13 or 14 scout is best [9/9/2014 10:46:09 PM] soO: ok [9/9/2014 10:46:11 PM] soO: good [9/9/2014 10:46:13 PM] soO: i think very good [9/9/2014 10:46:14 PM] Paulo "CatZ" Vizcarra: yes easy win merry and cata [9/9/2014 10:46:21 PM] soO: kk [9/9/2014 10:46:22 PM] soO: vs super? [9/9/2014 10:46:23 PM] soO: or [9/9/2014 10:46:24 PM] soO: vs stats [9/9/2014 10:46:25 PM] soO: ? [9/9/2014 10:46:33 PM] Paulo "CatZ" Vizcarra: I dont know, any [9/9/2014 10:46:38 PM] soO: my chocie? [9/9/2014 10:46:39 PM] soO: choice? [9/9/2014 10:46:41 PM] Paulo "CatZ" Vizcarra: your choice Oh man that is pretty fucking cool. Way to go! | ||
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