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Please stop making stupid polls just for the sake of making polls.
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
August 31 2014 23:44 GMT
#3981
God lays the smack down

Was nice to see some TvTs again
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
Tanzklaue
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany1415 Posts
August 31 2014 23:45 GMT
#3982
On September 01 2014 08:15 Ace Frehley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2014 07:52 orvinreyes wrote:
Dat Flash ELO

[image loading]

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/hots/players/detailed-elo#tblt-3688-1-2-DESC


Strange how Taeja has better vT, better vZ and better vP ELO than Flash, but still falls behind in the overall ELO

same goes for life, who is ahead in vT and vZ and only lacks 6 points behind in vP.

ELO works in mysterious ways.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17726 Posts
August 31 2014 23:47 GMT
#3983
On September 01 2014 08:45 Tanzklaue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2014 08:15 Ace Frehley wrote:
On September 01 2014 07:52 orvinreyes wrote:
Dat Flash ELO

[image loading]

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/hots/players/detailed-elo#tblt-3688-1-2-DESC


Strange how Taeja has better vT, better vZ and better vP ELO than Flash, but still falls behind in the overall ELO

same goes for life, who is ahead in vT and vZ and only lacks 6 points behind in vP.

ELO works in mysterious ways.

I think TL's Elo calculations work separately for the per matchup scores and the overall scores, so probably Flash beat players who were weaker vsT but stronger on the overall rating
"Expert" mods4ever.com
Jett.Jack.Alvir
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada2250 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-31 23:56:39
August 31 2014 23:55 GMT
#3984
On September 01 2014 08:33 Apoteosis wrote:
BTW, Canada makes great tournaments !

WCS Finals 3 2013, now IEM Toronto. You guys are awesome !

You forgot NASL Season 3!

edit: and I hope more live tournaments are held in Canada.
pajoondies
Profile Joined February 2014
United States316 Posts
August 31 2014 23:57 GMT
#3985
WOW that was just an amazing tournament as a whole, exciting the entire time and to see the legend of brood war finally make a mark in SC2 was awesome.

that kappa tie was amazing as well lol
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
August 31 2014 23:57 GMT
#3986
On September 01 2014 08:14 p14c wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2014 07:59 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote:
On September 01 2014 07:57 Canucklehead wrote:
On September 01 2014 07:25 Caihead wrote:
On September 01 2014 06:52 nimdil wrote:
On September 01 2014 03:34 Doublemint wrote:
On September 01 2014 03:33 nimdil wrote:
KT finals - disappointing.


How is having the best players in the finals disappointing

Well, they're not exactly very exciting players to have in the final. Also that's team kill from Korea - always weird games can expected from it.

Snute was 2-0 up against Flash which is extremely impressive and having him in the final would be a lot more exciting - if I had to choose I would hope for Snute - Life final.


I actually agree, any other combination of Zest / Yoda / Life vs Flash / Snute / Taeja would have been more hype, had Snute beaten Flash and team killed Taeja (both very possible) it would have been the most epic hype finals.


That sounds boring to me! Flash being in the finals was the most hype it could get. His story is way better than having snute in the finals. Flash rarely goes to foreign tournaments. Snute is at every foreign tournament. The hype comparison just can't be matched.

Flash vs anyone would have made it hype!

But I think Flash vs Snute would have been more epic, only cuz Zest doesn't have much of a story behind him.

The only story was the KT team kill, but that gets boring fast.

KT crushing overrated players is never boring. I especially liked how the smirk on Taeja's face disappeared after the second game LOL

100% Agreed!!!!!
LingBlingBling
Profile Joined December 2012
United States353 Posts
August 31 2014 23:59 GMT
#3987
On September 01 2014 08:57 usopsama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2014 08:14 p14c wrote:
On September 01 2014 07:59 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote:
On September 01 2014 07:57 Canucklehead wrote:
On September 01 2014 07:25 Caihead wrote:
On September 01 2014 06:52 nimdil wrote:
On September 01 2014 03:34 Doublemint wrote:
On September 01 2014 03:33 nimdil wrote:
KT finals - disappointing.


How is having the best players in the finals disappointing

Well, they're not exactly very exciting players to have in the final. Also that's team kill from Korea - always weird games can expected from it.

Snute was 2-0 up against Flash which is extremely impressive and having him in the final would be a lot more exciting - if I had to choose I would hope for Snute - Life final.


I actually agree, any other combination of Zest / Yoda / Life vs Flash / Snute / Taeja would have been more hype, had Snute beaten Flash and team killed Taeja (both very possible) it would have been the most epic hype finals.


That sounds boring to me! Flash being in the finals was the most hype it could get. His story is way better than having snute in the finals. Flash rarely goes to foreign tournaments. Snute is at every foreign tournament. The hype comparison just can't be matched.

Flash vs anyone would have made it hype!

But I think Flash vs Snute would have been more epic, only cuz Zest doesn't have much of a story behind him.

The only story was the KT team kill, but that gets boring fast.

KT crushing overrated players is never boring. I especially liked how the smirk on Taeja's face disappeared after the second game LOL

100% Agreed!!!!!



Pretty much this,. So nice to see the Kespa, the better players owning overseas like they should, taking the smirk of the faces off oversea players is godly.
Remember our motto: We ain't got it.
TurboMaN
Profile Joined October 2005
Germany925 Posts
September 01 2014 00:07 GMT
#3988
On September 01 2014 08:57 pajoondies wrote:
WOW that was just an amazing tournament as a whole, exciting the entire time and to see the legend of brood war finally make a mark in SC2 was awesome.

that kappa tie was amazing as well lol


# same here


Big thanks to all the sponsors, casters and others involved who made this awesome event possible!
Whiztard
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States227 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-01 00:12:24
September 01 2014 00:08 GMT
#3989
Nice front page spoilers Teamliquid.

I unsubscribed from your Facebook page last year because of spoilers, and I trusted that I wouldn't have troubles with spoilers from the first page since you guys usually wait a day. Nope, go to TL to get to the vods and the spoilers are right in my face.
when Bisu switches to SC2...... (2014 update: sighh)
Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
September 01 2014 00:13 GMT
#3990
Oh nice they're rebroadcasting the finals! I can watch without missing the fights due to lag yayyyyyyyyyy
Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
September 01 2014 00:14 GMT
#3991
On September 01 2014 09:13 Silvana wrote:
Oh nice they're rebroadcasting the finals! I can watch without missing the fights due to lag yayyyyyyyyyy

all vods are on youtube
LiquipediaWe will have only each other at the last
nikj
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada669 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-01 00:21:55
September 01 2014 00:14 GMT
#3992
On September 01 2014 09:08 Whiztard wrote:
Nice front page spoilers Teamliquid.

I unsubscribed from your Facebook page last year because of spoilers, and I trusted that I wouldn't have troubles with spoilers from the first page since you guys usually wait a day. Nope, go to TL to get to the vods and the spoilers are right in my face.


This has been their policy for some time now.

You can click the hide spoilers box located directly below the news section if you want to avoid them.
Y'know sometimes people ask me y'know like "What's your religion and stuff?" And I'm like "y' know it's like RTS." Uh, and they're like, "What's that?" And I'm like, "Y'know it's kinda like, kinda like Buddism."
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6815 Posts
September 01 2014 00:16 GMT
#3993
every Flash game was awesome to watch!
Starecat
Profile Joined August 2014
940 Posts
September 01 2014 00:17 GMT
#3994
KeSPA owning?

Flash was the top one the rest of so "godly" KeSPA players didn't even make to top 4 and i'm damm sure that if the bracket was inverted Zest wouldn't be on this finals.
:3
Ravensong170
Profile Joined June 2012
United States858 Posts
September 01 2014 00:22 GMT
#3995
On September 01 2014 09:08 Whiztard wrote:
Nice front page spoilers Teamliquid.

I unsubscribed from your Facebook page last year because of spoilers, and I trusted that I wouldn't have troubles with spoilers from the first page since you guys usually wait a day. Nope, go to TL to get to the vods and the spoilers are right in my face.


Do you go to ESPN.com if you miss the super bowl to not expect to see spoilers? Turn off the spoilers(which is pretty awesome for TL to have), or stop complaining.
"what a terrible ass game, we should all kill ourselves." -EE-Sama
Firestorm
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Canada341 Posts
September 01 2014 01:04 GMT
#3996
Today was a feel good day for Starcraft.
"Revenge is sweet... Revenge is a dish best served cold... Revenge is... Ice Cream!"
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
September 01 2014 01:20 GMT
#3997
On September 01 2014 09:08 Whiztard wrote:
Nice front page spoilers Teamliquid.

I unsubscribed from your Facebook page last year because of spoilers, and I trusted that I wouldn't have troubles with spoilers from the first page since you guys usually wait a day. Nope, go to TL to get to the vods and the spoilers are right in my face.

There's a hide Spoilers option on the front page, I suggest ticking that.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9033 Posts
September 01 2014 01:23 GMT
#3998
It's hard to stay an atheist.
Tanzklaue
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany1415 Posts
September 01 2014 01:36 GMT
#3999
On September 01 2014 08:14 p14c wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2014 07:59 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote:
On September 01 2014 07:57 Canucklehead wrote:
On September 01 2014 07:25 Caihead wrote:
On September 01 2014 06:52 nimdil wrote:
On September 01 2014 03:34 Doublemint wrote:
On September 01 2014 03:33 nimdil wrote:
KT finals - disappointing.


How is having the best players in the finals disappointing

Well, they're not exactly very exciting players to have in the final. Also that's team kill from Korea - always weird games can expected from it.

Snute was 2-0 up against Flash which is extremely impressive and having him in the final would be a lot more exciting - if I had to choose I would hope for Snute - Life final.


I actually agree, any other combination of Zest / Yoda / Life vs Flash / Snute / Taeja would have been more hype, had Snute beaten Flash and team killed Taeja (both very possible) it would have been the most epic hype finals.


That sounds boring to me! Flash being in the finals was the most hype it could get. His story is way better than having snute in the finals. Flash rarely goes to foreign tournaments. Snute is at every foreign tournament. The hype comparison just can't be matched.

Flash vs anyone would have made it hype!

But I think Flash vs Snute would have been more epic, only cuz Zest doesn't have much of a story behind him.

The only story was the KT team kill, but that gets boring fast.

KT crushing overrated players is never boring. I especially liked how the smirk on Taeja's face disappeared after the second game LOL

it's funny that a flash fan talks about others being overrated.

let's be real. flash won 1 premier tournament that had a prizemoney of 10k. 1. his streak of dominance is 2 months now. 2. it's the same overhyping as with classic after he won the GSL. everyone called him the "best palyer ever", the "unbeatable protoss holy shit better than rain and zest". now nobody talks about classic anymore, because he didn't do anything after winning that title. if anything, classic is much closer to becoming the next seed than he is to becoming the next zest. what i want to say is: if flash still is competitively releavant in 2 months, then he will take his place in the hall of champions, together with all the other all time greats. if he isn't, then he will be jsut another one hit wonder that LR regulars will pull up whenever they talk about a player who used to be good.

i don't give a flying fuck about him being god in sc:bw. sc2 is another domain, and in this domain we only know the legends of the kind of wings, the creator of the universe and the summer of taeja.
imrusty269
Profile Joined January 2014
United States1404 Posts
September 01 2014 01:43 GMT
#4000
I'm mad now that Maru isn't invited to Kespa cup. It would be a travesty if Flash makes it to Blizzcon and Maru doesn't.
Bbyong | MMA | Polt | Dream | Maru | Mvp
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