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SoSexy
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Italy3725 Posts
August 29 2014 14:00 GMT
#321
where is leenock army wtf
Dating thread on TL LUL
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
August 29 2014 14:00 GMT
#322
Huk needed to push before the mutas are out, Huk is in a raelly bad position now.
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
August 29 2014 14:01 GMT
#323
HuK what are you doing -.-
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
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Sakkreth
Profile Joined February 2011
Lithuania1096 Posts
August 29 2014 14:01 GMT
#324
Muta tech switch is kind of very strong...
WhiteRa, NaNiWa, Creator, sOs, Krr, ForGG, MMA, Zest ||
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
August 29 2014 14:01 GMT
#325
On August 29 2014 22:28 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2014 22:27 Zealously wrote:
On August 29 2014 22:24 Serinox wrote:
On August 29 2014 22:22 Zealously wrote:
On August 29 2014 22:21 Circumstance wrote:
On August 29 2014 22:18 Zealously wrote:
On August 29 2014 22:14 Circumstance wrote:
On August 29 2014 22:13 IntoTheheart wrote:
On August 29 2014 22:12 Die4Ever wrote:
On August 29 2014 22:11 IntoTheheart wrote:
[quote]
My understanding was that Red Bull Washington happened after Blizzcon, so the points wouldn't matter for the 2014 cycle.

no it's before



On August 29 2014 22:12 Shellshock wrote:
On August 29 2014 22:11 IntoTheheart wrote:
[quote]
My understanding was that Red Bull Washington happened after Blizzcon, so the points wouldn't matter for the 2014 cycle.

Washington is in September and Blizzcon is in November


Wait... Washington doesn't have any qualifiers, right? :S


And now someone's catching on. You could argue they had one, won by Cure, but no more.


There were a lot of qualifiers, actually. All the individual RB events act as qualifiers, and they had their own set of qualifiers.


The individual Red Bull events acted as events. Full tournaments with their own stages, match-by-match schedules, and three of them with their own WCS points. Those are NOT qualifiers.


They act like qualifiers, just like the DH:Open events did for Dreamhack Winter last year.

I think he is getting what you mean, but says that this method of player seeding cannot be counted as qualifiers defined in the WCS rules.


Blizzard have demonstrated that they are willing to very nearly ignore their own rules. A big tournament like DC will have WCS points, I can almost guarantee it.

Maybe we should make our own WCS point list, with actual rules


Each year we get about 13-20 Premier events before Blizzcon. There are 3 seasons of WCS and maybe 2 global/kespa cups. Looking at the pure WCS point distibution Premier events all got 4k points each. WCS events get 10k each, but split into three different regions, meaning each WCS region gets 30k in WCS events and some of the top players get a shot at 14k more due to Kespa Cup/Global Cup.

This means Premier foreigner events are holding up anywhere between 52k-80k are up for grabs compared to 104k in WCS (Though realistically any one player from any region can compete for only 30k-44k at the absolute best). This means that for the average player, foreign lans are weighted to be twice as important as WCS events. To make it even worse, WCS points in WCS events are weighted towards the champion as they want to seed the Champions into Blizcon, but because of that consistent players that can't go out to lans (Vortix, TRUE, soO, Maru, etc.) are all essentially at a massive disadvantage.

This isn't even going into Tier 2 events, of which there can be anywhere between 5-15 per year. Which give another 3.5k of WCS points putting consistent performers in the main WCS events at a worse position.

This isn't even going into the blatant disregard of guidelines or a standardized rules set across the board as to what event gets how many points. The most blatant example of this was Gfinity G3. Put as a Major event, it stil gives first place as many points as a winner of a Premier tournament like DH, IEM or MLG. On top of that 3/4 of the players were invited for a total pool of 12 players.

Yet at the same time, a tournament like ECL and the TesLs have more qualified players than invited and get 1/2 the WCS points (or none in the case of ECL). Even tournaments similar to Gfinity in terms of qualified to invited players like LSC, Fragbite, or the Copenhagen games got half the points despite having almost the exact same ratio of qualified players to invigted players (or in the case of Fragbite 0 WCS points).

Basically there is no unifying idea behind the allotment of WCS points. It's not giving a helping hand to local events or copenhagen games/ECL/Tesl probably would have gotten more. It's not trying to choose a best player like last year. It's not setting strict rules on what kind of basic structures we want WCS endorsed events to be. It doesn't particulalry favor players in the WCS main events beyond the champion. What the fuck are you trying to achieve by giving out WCS points? I actually can't tell.
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
August 29 2014 14:01 GMT
#326
Oh god Huk what was that recall?
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
August 29 2014 14:02 GMT
#327
value mutas
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
August 29 2014 14:02 GMT
#328
base tradddeeee
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
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ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
August 29 2014 14:03 GMT
#329
@____@, Recall?
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-29 14:03:50
August 29 2014 14:03 GMT
#330
omg HuK is winning
edit nvm 7 roaches
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
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Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-29 14:04:46
August 29 2014 14:03 GMT
#331
Sick by Hukkie hukki!!

Edit: just not enough
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
August 29 2014 14:03 GMT
#332
herO level stalkers?
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
August 29 2014 14:03 GMT
#333
Should've recalled to natural
Liquipedia"Expert"
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
August 29 2014 14:03 GMT
#334
The fuck is this game ?
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
August 29 2014 14:03 GMT
#335
LoL, what even happened there
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
August 29 2014 14:04 GMT
#336
those roachs are the win I think
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
August 29 2014 14:04 GMT
#337
Haha, hero roach warren
Crazy that Huk almost won that
Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
August 29 2014 14:04 GMT
#338
I mean look at zeh supply
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
August 29 2014 14:04 GMT
#339
This is the tournament of wiffed recalls.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
August 29 2014 14:04 GMT
#340
ok Leenock wins
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