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ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
August 29 2014 14:08 GMT
#361
On August 29 2014 23:07 KingAlphard wrote:
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On August 29 2014 23:05 Sakkreth wrote:
On August 29 2014 23:04 BlackCompany wrote:
Haha, hero roach warren
Crazy that Huk almost won that


Crazy that he lost it, Muta switch is... can win lost games.


It was also Leenock going continuously for base trades with the roach hydra army rather than engaging, that made the difference too.

It was the recall that really messed that up, he came into things and the FF, didn't force the ground army far enough away.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
August 29 2014 14:08 GMT
#362
This landed viking meta too strong
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Jett.Jack.Alvir
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada2250 Posts
August 29 2014 14:09 GMT
#363
On August 29 2014 23:08 ThomasjServo wrote:
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On August 29 2014 23:07 KingAlphard wrote:
On August 29 2014 23:05 Sakkreth wrote:
On August 29 2014 23:04 BlackCompany wrote:
Haha, hero roach warren
Crazy that Huk almost won that


Crazy that he lost it, Muta switch is... can win lost games.


It was also Leenock going continuously for base trades with the roach hydra army rather than engaging, that made the difference too.

It was the recall that really messed that up, he came into things and the FF, didn't force the ground army far enough away.

Yeah he really shouldn't have tried to go up that ramp.
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
August 29 2014 14:09 GMT
#364
On August 29 2014 23:08 stuchiu wrote:
This landed viking meta too strong

The era of vindication for the unit design and David Kim/the Cinematics team.
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
August 29 2014 14:09 GMT
#365
am I the only that doesn't see the main stream associated with the tournament?
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
August 29 2014 14:09 GMT
#366
On August 29 2014 23:08 stuchiu wrote:
This landed viking meta too strong

I totally didn't realize there was that TvT was going on.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
August 29 2014 14:09 GMT
#367
On August 29 2014 23:09 y0su wrote:
am I the only that doesn't see the main stream associated with the tournament?

It isn't on the sidebar yet, but they aer just ticking a timer away before Zest. Vs. Taeja.
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
August 29 2014 14:10 GMT
#368
Finished:
(P)HuK 0 - 2 (Z)Leenock

Ongoing:
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GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
August 29 2014 14:11 GMT
#369
Leenock 2-0ed HuK? Excellent
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8159 Posts
August 29 2014 14:11 GMT
#370
Scarlett practicing as toss
StrategyTaeJa #1 || @TL_Jer99 || "seeker seeked out his seeking"
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
August 29 2014 14:11 GMT
#371
I don't know if my heart can take another herO v. Snute.
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
August 29 2014 14:12 GMT
#372
On August 29 2014 23:11 Jer99 wrote:
Scarlett practicing as toss

But DRG isn't here.
Nirel
Profile Joined September 2011
Israel1526 Posts
August 29 2014 14:12 GMT
#373
On August 29 2014 23:01 stuchiu wrote:
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On August 29 2014 22:28 Lorning wrote:
On August 29 2014 22:27 Zealously wrote:
On August 29 2014 22:24 Serinox wrote:
On August 29 2014 22:22 Zealously wrote:
On August 29 2014 22:21 Circumstance wrote:
On August 29 2014 22:18 Zealously wrote:
On August 29 2014 22:14 Circumstance wrote:
On August 29 2014 22:13 IntoTheheart wrote:
On August 29 2014 22:12 Die4Ever wrote:
[quote]
no it's before



On August 29 2014 22:12 Shellshock wrote:
[quote]
Washington is in September and Blizzcon is in November


Wait... Washington doesn't have any qualifiers, right? :S


And now someone's catching on. You could argue they had one, won by Cure, but no more.


There were a lot of qualifiers, actually. All the individual RB events act as qualifiers, and they had their own set of qualifiers.


The individual Red Bull events acted as events. Full tournaments with their own stages, match-by-match schedules, and three of them with their own WCS points. Those are NOT qualifiers.


They act like qualifiers, just like the DH:Open events did for Dreamhack Winter last year.

I think he is getting what you mean, but says that this method of player seeding cannot be counted as qualifiers defined in the WCS rules.


Blizzard have demonstrated that they are willing to very nearly ignore their own rules. A big tournament like DC will have WCS points, I can almost guarantee it.

Maybe we should make our own WCS point list, with actual rules


Each year we get about 13-20 Premier events before Blizzcon. There are 3 seasons of WCS and maybe 2 global/kespa cups. Looking at the pure WCS point distibution Premier events all got 4k points each. WCS events get 10k each, but split into three different regions, meaning each WCS region gets 30k in WCS events and some of the top players get a shot at 14k more due to Kespa Cup/Global Cup.

This means Premier foreigner events are holding up anywhere between 52k-80k are up for grabs compared to 104k in WCS (Though realistically any one player from any region can compete for only 30k-44k at the absolute best). This means that for the average player, foreign lans are weighted to be twice as important as WCS events. To make it even worse, WCS points in WCS events are weighted towards the champion as they want to seed the Champions into Blizcon, but because of that consistent players that can't go out to lans (Vortix, TRUE, soO, Maru, etc.) are all essentially at a massive disadvantage.

This isn't even going into Tier 2 events, of which there can be anywhere between 5-15 per year. Which give another 3.5k of WCS points putting consistent performers in the main WCS events at a worse position.

This isn't even going into the blatant disregard of guidelines or a standardized rules set across the board as to what event gets how many points. The most blatant example of this was Gfinity G3. Put as a Major event, it stil gives first place as many points as a winner of a Premier tournament like DH, IEM or MLG. On top of that 3/4 of the players were invited for a total pool of 12 players.

Yet at the same time, a tournament like ECL and the TesLs have more qualified players than invited and get 1/2 the WCS points (or none in the case of ECL). Even tournaments similar to Gfinity in terms of qualified to invited players like LSC, Fragbite, or the Copenhagen games got half the points despite having almost the exact same ratio of qualified players to invigted players (or in the case of Fragbite 0 WCS points).

Basically there is no unifying idea behind the allotment of WCS points. It's not giving a helping hand to local events or copenhagen games/ECL/Tesl probably would have gotten more. It's not trying to choose a best player like last year. It's not setting strict rules on what kind of basic structures we want WCS endorsed events to be. It doesn't particulalry favor players in the WCS main events beyond the champion. What the fuck are you trying to achieve by giving out WCS points? I actually can't tell.


You should write an article about it on TL so Blizzard will see it, who knows maybe someone would do something.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
August 29 2014 14:12 GMT
#374
On August 29 2014 23:11 GumBa wrote:
Leenock 2-0ed HuK? Excellent


No, not excellent
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17737 Posts
August 29 2014 14:12 GMT
#375
On August 29 2014 23:11 Jer99 wrote:
Scarlett practicing as toss

I don't think that'll work against Life lol
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Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
August 29 2014 14:12 GMT
#376
Whattttt Bunny is also in group A? Zest is so screwed -.-
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
August 29 2014 14:13 GMT
#377
How is the 1st map chosen? because THIS map for PvZ? Damn!
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
August 29 2014 14:13 GMT
#378
On August 29 2014 23:12 Die4Ever wrote:
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On August 29 2014 23:11 Jer99 wrote:
Scarlett practicing as toss

I don't think that'll work against Life lol

She's beaten him twice with zerg already, gotta keep it fresh.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
August 29 2014 14:13 GMT
#379
On August 29 2014 23:11 Jer99 wrote:
Scarlett practicing as toss


Probably just how she warms up. I can't see her doing that against Life
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
August 29 2014 14:13 GMT
#380
You fool, you have to kill Polt in a snigle strike, before his Tactical Genius kicks in!
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