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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/6wl40.png) Welmu vs uThermalStarting map: Overgrowth LiveZerg vs TLOStarting map: Overgrowth
+ Show Spoiler [Spoiler-Free] ++ Show Spoiler [Overall Results] +
+ Show Spoiler + Welmu vs uThermal Game 1 Welmu vs uThermal Game 2 Welmu vs uThermal Game 3
LiveZerg vs TLO Game 1 LiveZerg vs TLO Game 2 LiveZerg vs TLO Game 3
Losers Match Game 1 Losers Match Game 2 Losers Match Game 3
Winners Match Game 1 Winners Match Game 2 Winners Match Game 3
Final Match Game 1 Final Match Game 2 Final Match Game 3
+ Show Spoiler ++ Show Spoiler [Welmu vs uThermal] +Poll: Recommend Welmu vs. uThermal Game 1?★- Do not see this game no matter what (4) 40% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1) 10% ★★★- Good game (4) 40% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 10% 10 total votes Your vote: Recommend Welmu vs. uThermal Game 1? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Welmu vs. uThermal Game 2?★- Do not see this game no matter what (5) 28% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (7) 39% ★★★- Good game (4) 22% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 6% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 6% 18 total votes Your vote: Recommend Welmu vs. uThermal Game 2? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Welmu vs. uThermal Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (6) 67% ★★★- Good game (2) 22% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 11% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 9 total votes Your vote: Recommend Welmu vs. uThermal Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
+ Show Spoiler [LiveZerg vs TLO] +Poll: Recommend TLO vs. LiveZerg Game 1?★- Do not see this game no matter what (1) 8% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2) 15% ★★★- Good game (6) 46% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (3) 23% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 8% 13 total votes Your vote: Recommend TLO vs. LiveZerg Game 1? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend TLO vs. LiveZerg Game 2?★- Do not see this game no matter what (1) 8% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2) 17% ★★★- Good game (2) 17% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (5) 42% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2) 17% 12 total votes Your vote: Recommend TLO vs. LiveZerg Game 2? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend TLO vs. LiveZerg Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★★★- Good game (2) 50% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 25% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 25% 4 total votes Your vote: Recommend TLO vs. LiveZerg Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
+ Show Spoiler [Losers Match] +Poll: Recommend Losers Match Game 1?★- Do not see this game no matter what (2) 11% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★★★- Good game (2) 11% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (10) 56% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (4) 22% 18 total votes Your vote: Recommend Losers Match Game 1? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Losers Match Game 2?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (5) 63% ★★★- Good game (1) 13% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2) 25% 8 total votes Your vote: Recommend Losers Match Game 2? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Losers Match Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (1) 13% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2) 25% ★★★- Good game (3) 38% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2) 25% 8 total votes Your vote: Recommend Losers Match Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
+ Show Spoiler [Winners Match] +Poll: Recommend Winners Match Game 1?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4) 67% ★★★- Good game (1) 17% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 17% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 6 total votes Your vote: Recommend Winners Match Game 1? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Winners Match Game 2?★- Do not see this game no matter what (3) 27% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2) 18% ★★★- Good game (3) 27% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 9% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2) 18% 11 total votes Your vote: Recommend Winners Match Game 2? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Winners Match Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (1) 14% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1) 14% ★★★- Good game (1) 14% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (4) 57% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 7 total votes Your vote: Recommend Winners Match Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
+ Show Spoiler [Final Match] +Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 1?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1) 17% ★★★- Good game (3) 50% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2) 33% 6 total votes Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 1? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 2?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1) 11% ★★★- Good game (0) 0% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (6) 67% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2) 22% 9 total votes Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 2? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1) 17% ★★★- Good game (3) 50% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 17% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 17% 6 total votes Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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Poll: Head?Welmu & TLO (17) 45% Welmu & uThermal (14) 37% uThermal & TLO (3) 8% Welmu & LiveZerg (2) 5% LiveZerg & TLO (2) 5% uThermal & LiveZerg (0) 0% 38 total votes Your vote: Head? (Vote): Welmu & uThermal (Vote): Welmu & LiveZerg (Vote): Welmu & TLO (Vote): uThermal & LiveZerg (Vote): uThermal & TLO (Vote): LiveZerg & TLO
Poll: Heart?Welmu & TLO (20) 49% uThermal & TLO (12) 29% Welmu & uThermal (4) 10% LiveZerg & TLO (3) 7% Welmu & LiveZerg (1) 2% uThermal & LiveZerg (1) 2% 41 total votes Your vote: Heart? (Vote): Welmu & uThermal (Vote): Welmu & LiveZerg (Vote): Welmu & TLO (Vote): uThermal & LiveZerg (Vote): uThermal & TLO (Vote): LiveZerg & TLO
Top 2 1st 2nd 3rd 4th --------------------------------------------------------------- Welmu 61.05% 32.77% 28.28% 21.01% 17.93% TLO 53.85% 27.00% 26.84% 24.61% 21.54% uThermal 52.30% 25.47% 26.82% 25.32% 22.39% LiveZerg 32.80% 14.76% 18.05% 29.06% 38.14% Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.
WCS Predictor 2014Welmu, TLO, uThermal, LiveZerg in WCS EU S3 Premier starts in Welmu must win this! TLO must win this!- Welmu is at ~ 2.05 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 56.5 % of the time Welmu wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 3.62 %. ~ 43.5 % of the time Welmu loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 0.01 %. ------------------------------------------------- - TLO is at ~ 0.95 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 52.81 % of the time TLO wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 1.8 %. ~ 47.19 % of the time TLO loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 0.01 %. ------------------------------------------------- - uThermal is at ~ 0.03 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 51.38 % of the time uThermal wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 0.06 %. ~ 48.62 % of the time uThermal loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 0 %. ------------------------------------------------- - LiveZerg is at ~ 0.01 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 39.31 % of the time LiveZerg wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 0.03 %. ~ 60.69 % of the time LiveZerg loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 0 %.
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Belgica34432 Posts
Thanks for the thread. Perfect timing as I have my last exam tomorrow :p
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What do you mean, Welmu and uThermal, poll? This is a lot less likely than both welmu TLO and uthermal TLO. Actually this group is way sicker than it looks, cause Livezerg played surprisingly well last season
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Welmu and uThermal will come out of this, but cheering for TLO nonetheless <3
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United States97276 Posts
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LiveZerg will surprise again!
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Europe holds! GJ Foreigners
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Head or Heart, TLO advances! Gotta see if he goes through with Welmu or uThermal
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WCS Predictor 2014Welmu, TLO, uThermal, LiveZerg in WCS EU S3 Premier starts in Welmu must win this! TLO must win this!- Welmu is at ~ 2.05 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 56.5 % of the time Welmu wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 3.62 %. ~ 43.5 % of the time Welmu loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 0.01 %. ------------------------------------------------- - TLO is at ~ 0.95 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 52.81 % of the time TLO wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 1.8 %. ~ 47.19 % of the time TLO loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 0.01 %. ------------------------------------------------- - uThermal is at ~ 0.03 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 51.38 % of the time uThermal wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 0.06 %. ~ 48.62 % of the time uThermal loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 0 %. ------------------------------------------------- - LiveZerg is at ~ 0.01 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 39.31 % of the time LiveZerg wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 0.03 %. ~ 60.69 % of the time LiveZerg loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 0 %.
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Hoping for TLO and LiveZerg, but Welmu + TLO is ok too
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I have a feeling that no one in this group is going to blizzcon
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On August 27 2014 00:01 Shellshock wrote: I have a feeling that no one in this group is going to blizzcon Welmu is gonna win WCS EU and then hes going to Blizzcon. He has the blessing of elfi, he cant fail.
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On August 27 2014 00:04 Luolis wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 00:01 Shellshock wrote: I have a feeling that no one in this group is going to blizzcon Welmu is gonna win WCS EU and then hes going to Blizzcon. He has the blessing of elfi, he cant fail. He's no naama. No chance to win it all
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On August 27 2014 00:05 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 00:04 Luolis wrote:On August 27 2014 00:01 Shellshock wrote: I have a feeling that no one in this group is going to blizzcon Welmu is gonna win WCS EU and then hes going to Blizzcon. He has the blessing of elfi, he cant fail. He's no naama. No chance to win it all blessing of elfi
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On August 27 2014 00:07 Luolis wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 00:05 Shellshock wrote:On August 27 2014 00:04 Luolis wrote:On August 27 2014 00:01 Shellshock wrote: I have a feeling that no one in this group is going to blizzcon Welmu is gonna win WCS EU and then hes going to Blizzcon. He has the blessing of elfi, he cant fail. He's no naama. No chance to win it all blessing of elfi Elfi's blessings are garbage
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On August 27 2014 00:09 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 00:07 Luolis wrote:On August 27 2014 00:05 Shellshock wrote:On August 27 2014 00:04 Luolis wrote:On August 27 2014 00:01 Shellshock wrote: I have a feeling that no one in this group is going to blizzcon Welmu is gonna win WCS EU and then hes going to Blizzcon. He has the blessing of elfi, he cant fail. He's no naama. No chance to win it all blessing of elfi Elfi's blessings are garbage Get out of here, heretic.
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On August 27 2014 00:09 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 00:07 Luolis wrote:On August 27 2014 00:05 Shellshock wrote:On August 27 2014 00:04 Luolis wrote:On August 27 2014 00:01 Shellshock wrote: I have a feeling that no one in this group is going to blizzcon Welmu is gonna win WCS EU and then hes going to Blizzcon. He has the blessing of elfi, he cant fail. He's no naama. No chance to win it all blessing of elfi Elfi's blessings are garbage I will not be spoken to by someone so devoid of elfi's light!
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Does elfi even play anymore?
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On August 27 2014 00:30 Shellshock wrote: Does elfi even play anymore? Yes.
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Which Welmu will we see today? No PvP, I am a bit nervous for the man.
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On August 27 2014 00:36 ThomasjServo wrote: Which Welmu will we see today? No PvP, I am a bit nervous for the man. I'm a bit more nervous because of Welmu's tweet yesterday where he tweeted that he had stomach problems last week and even forgot that his games were today and not yesterday lol. Also because I don't think his PvP stands out too much to his other matchups.
Don't know what to expect really since there hasn't been many games by him seen in the last three weeks, but obviously hope he has been practicing more than he let on and shows solid gameplay.
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On August 27 2014 00:51 D-light wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 00:36 ThomasjServo wrote: Which Welmu will we see today? No PvP, I am a bit nervous for the man. I'm a bit more nervous because of Welmu's tweet yesterday where he tweeted that he had stomach problems last week and even forgot that his games were today and not yesterday lol. Also because I don't think his PvP stands out too much to his other matchups. Don't know what to expect really since there hasn't been many games by him seen in the last three weeks, but obviously hope he has been practicing more than he let on and shows solid gameplay. In my head, I just think Finaland=PvP land. We'll see what happens, I hope him and his hard r pull through.
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Don´t really care about Welmu. Which TLO will we see today?
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On August 27 2014 01:03 Marth93 wrote: Don´t really care about Welmu. Which TLO will we see today? Also a fair question, we'll also see if uThermal gets put on tilt at all today. He is a pretty emotional Terran.
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On August 27 2014 00:04 Luolis wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 00:01 Shellshock wrote: I have a feeling that no one in this group is going to blizzcon Welmu is gonna win WCS EU and then hes going to Blizzcon. He has the blessing of elfi, he cant fail. He's going to pray to Inca today.
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WTF KAELARIS? WTF? WTF? !?!?!?!?
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On August 27 2014 01:05 geokilla wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 00:04 Luolis wrote:On August 27 2014 00:01 Shellshock wrote: I have a feeling that no one in this group is going to blizzcon Welmu is gonna win WCS EU and then hes going to Blizzcon. He has the blessing of elfi, he cant fail. He's going to pray to Inca today. Finland doesnt support pagan gods
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On August 27 2014 01:05 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: WTF KAELARIS? WTF? WTF? !?!?!?!? ?
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On August 27 2014 00:09 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 00:07 Luolis wrote:On August 27 2014 00:05 Shellshock wrote:On August 27 2014 00:04 Luolis wrote:On August 27 2014 00:01 Shellshock wrote: I have a feeling that no one in this group is going to blizzcon Welmu is gonna win WCS EU and then hes going to Blizzcon. He has the blessing of elfi, he cant fail. He's no naama. No chance to win it all blessing of elfi Elfi's blessings are garbage elfi is one and only true God. His blessings are only that work
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On August 27 2014 01:04 ThomasjServo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 01:03 Marth93 wrote: Don´t really care about Welmu. Which TLO will we see today? Also a fair question, we'll also see if uThermal gets put on tilt at all today. He is a pretty emotional Terran. Pretty easy group for LiveZerg.
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On August 27 2014 01:05 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: WTF KAELARIS? WTF? WTF? !?!?!?!? What?
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On August 27 2014 01:07 Boucot wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 01:05 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: WTF KAELARIS? WTF? WTF? !?!?!?!? ? WHO IS THAT MAN NEXT TO APOLLO?
Can't be Kaelaris, he doesn't have beard.
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On August 27 2014 01:08 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 01:07 Boucot wrote:On August 27 2014 01:05 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: WTF KAELARIS? WTF? WTF? !?!?!?!? ? WHO IS THAT MAN NEXT TO APOLLO? Can't be Kaelaris, he doesn't have beard. Also the hair is off.
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He's a bit of a trickster, Kaelaris, you devil you.
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Flag of Finland is the most beautiful flag in this picture by far.
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Jeez it seems like nobody watches WCS EU anymore. The casting is definitely not the same level as the other regions, but that can't be the only reason?
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On August 27 2014 01:17 johnbongham wrote: Jeez it seems like nobody watches WCS EU anymore. The casting is definitely not the same level as the other regions, but that can't be the only reason? EU have more viewers than AM and KR during first match at the moment?
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When uThermal pulls the boys, he doesn't leave a damn one behind.
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I love that we aer seeing landed vikigns more and moer.
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Poll: Recommend Welmu vs. uThermal Game 1?★- Do not see this game no matter what (4) 40% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1) 10% ★★★- Good game (4) 40% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 10% 10 total votes Your vote: Recommend Welmu vs. uThermal Game 1? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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Amove World class
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Oh god TvP is such a horrible mu, either terran wins with that scvpull or loses in macro -_-
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On August 27 2014 01:18 ThomasjServo wrote: When uThermal pulls the boys, he doesn't leave a damn one behind. No man gets left behind
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On August 27 2014 01:17 johnbongham wrote: Jeez it seems like nobody watches WCS EU anymore. The casting is definitely not the same level as the other regions, but that can't be the only reason?
Apollo casting best casting.
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Scv pull timing vs colossus.
Couldn't see that coming
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Beautiful move by uthermal!
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On August 27 2014 01:19 Luolis wrote: Oh god TvP is such a horrible mu, either terran wins with that scvpull or loses in macro -_- Or you haven't watched sc2 lately?
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On August 27 2014 01:19 BlackCompany wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 01:18 ThomasjServo wrote: When uThermal pulls the boys, he doesn't leave a damn one behind. No man gets left behind Kind of the antithesis to in the rear with the gear.
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Why did uthermal built a third? he didn't really used it
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need more Polt/Maru/Taeja style TvP :/
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Well, it the scv train this time was simply the perfect answer: uThermal knew the opponent was going on double forge, knew Welmu's complete tech and then tricked into taking a third expansion. edit: fucking scv pulls, man...
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On August 27 2014 01:17 johnbongham wrote: Jeez it seems like nobody watches WCS EU anymore. The casting is definitely not the same level as the other regions, but that can't be the only reason?
I actually like Kaelaris&Apollo over Nathanias&Rotti
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On August 27 2014 01:20 ThomasjServo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 01:19 BlackCompany wrote:On August 27 2014 01:18 ThomasjServo wrote: When uThermal pulls the boys, he doesn't leave a damn one behind. No man gets left behind Kind of the antithesis to in the rear with the gear. up ahead soon to be dead
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On August 27 2014 01:20 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 01:19 Luolis wrote: Oh god TvP is such a horrible mu, either terran wins with that scvpull or loses in macro -_- Or you haven't watched sc2 lately? I have. What i said is completely true. Either one of those happens. Its not very good design when the only strat that terran can use to be over 50% is one allin..
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On August 27 2014 01:21 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 01:20 ThomasjServo wrote:On August 27 2014 01:19 BlackCompany wrote:On August 27 2014 01:18 ThomasjServo wrote: When uThermal pulls the boys, he doesn't leave a damn one behind. No man gets left behind Kind of the antithesis to in the rear with the gear. up ahead soon to be dead Up in front to tank the brunt.
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On August 27 2014 01:21 shay5555 wrote: Why did uthermal built a third? he didn't really used it More SCVs !
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On August 27 2014 01:21 GoloSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 01:17 johnbongham wrote: Jeez it seems like nobody watches WCS EU anymore. The casting is definitely not the same level as the other regions, but that can't be the only reason? I actually like Kaelaris&Apollo over Nathanias&Rotti No hate but rotti is bad just like Khaldor and Wolf.
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On August 27 2014 01:17 johnbongham wrote: Jeez it seems like nobody watches WCS EU anymore. The casting is definitely not the same level as the other regions, but that can't be the only reason? US has some more varied matches these days, at least in terms of who you expect to get out.
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This is as lame and original as a blink all-in on heavy rain
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On August 27 2014 01:21 shay5555 wrote: Why did uthermal built a third? he didn't really used it
but he showed it to welmu to make his intentions more ambiguous.
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On August 27 2014 01:20 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 01:19 Luolis wrote: Oh god TvP is such a horrible mu, either terran wins with that scvpull or loses in macro -_- Or you haven't watched sc2 lately?
You have to understand luolis, he would like to whine, but terran won, so he has to get creative.
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Great defense. And I think Uthermal is dead.
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That didnt end up good for uThermal
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Welmu, really wanting to let uThermal have a chance the way he walks on those mines.
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Nice hold but stim just started
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well pretty good hold by Uthermal now. I thought welmu could have handled that better though.
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Third is getting really late for uThermal, the boys will cometh.
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Looks like uThermal doesnt fix whats not broken lets see if it works again
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this strat wont work on this map right?
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Is uThermal's single Starport approach unique in TvP? Seems like he sacks the extra port for the faster ghosts, also just opts to not drop and sticks to a low medivac count.
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On August 27 2014 01:33 robson1 wrote: this strat wont work on this map right?
or welmus just messes this up....
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Ugh, hate scv pulls
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Hell yeah Uthermal. He's improving a lot lately
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Poll: Recommend Welmu vs. uThermal Game 2?★- Do not see this game no matter what (5) 28% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (7) 39% ★★★- Good game (4) 22% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 6% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 6% 18 total votes Your vote: Recommend Welmu vs. uThermal Game 2? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Welmu vs. uThermal Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (6) 67% ★★★- Good game (2) 22% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 11% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 9 total votes Your vote: Recommend Welmu vs. uThermal Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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Gateway units just melt to stimmed bio would not have thought that uThermal wins 2-0 here
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On August 27 2014 01:17 johnbongham wrote: Jeez it seems like nobody watches WCS EU anymore. The casting is definitely not the same level as the other regions, but that can't be the only reason? i don't know about everyone else but personally i watch A LOT less sc2 than i used to in general. and when i do watch, it's almost always GSL/SPL because the times are better for me and the games are better and the players are more interesting to me for the most part. like, this group has 3 players i don't care about at all (no offense to any of them) and TLO, who's cool but not someone i'm super excited for either. if this group was like Grubby, Mvp, Stephano and Thorzain or something i'd watch every second of it and then watch the VODs three times in a row.
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What the fucking hell was that ???
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Uhm, why did he move down the ramp? I don't play terran or protoss but shouldn't you just stay on top of ramp and force field? :s
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Yeah tvp is in a stupid spot atm. Its either this stupid allin, or terran getting rekt. Ggwp blizz id rather watch blink allins than this shit.
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Welmu is one of the best foreigners right? wow maybe uthermal should be included in that top 5 foreigners too then
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why didnt he just force field the ramp like for 2 minutes for extra colossi?
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On August 27 2014 01:33 ThomasjServo wrote: Is uThermal's single Starport approach unique in TvP? Seems like he sacks the extra port for the faster ghosts, also just opts to not drop and sticks to a low medivac count. Interesting observation, don't know the answer however
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On August 27 2014 01:36 [PkF] Wire wrote: What the fucking hell was that ???
nice throw by welmu.
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On August 27 2014 01:36 Luolis wrote: Yeah tvp is in a stupid spot atm. Its either this stupid allin, or terran getting rekt. Ggwp blizz id rather watch blink allins than this shit. You are so wrong
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On August 27 2014 01:36 Luolis wrote: Yeah tvp is in a stupid spot atm. Its either this stupid allin, or terran getting rekt. Ggwp blizz id rather watch blink allins than this shit. Should watch more TvPs.
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disappointing games from Welmu :/ Hope he can still recover
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On August 27 2014 01:37 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 01:36 Luolis wrote: Yeah tvp is in a stupid spot atm. Its either this stupid allin, or terran getting rekt. Ggwp blizz id rather watch blink allins than this shit. You are so wrong Yeah, how am i actually wrong?
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On August 27 2014 01:37 Luolis wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 01:37 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On August 27 2014 01:36 Luolis wrote: Yeah tvp is in a stupid spot atm. Its either this stupid allin, or terran getting rekt. Ggwp blizz id rather watch blink allins than this shit. You are so wrong Yeah, how am i actually wrong? Terrans getting rekt if they do something else than scv all in
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On August 27 2014 01:36 mikumegurine wrote: Welmu is one of the best foreigners right? wow maybe uthermal should be included in that top 5 foreigners too then Welmus play is always somewhere between diamond and best foreigner you never know how is daily form is :/ plus i think someone mentioned he is ill? Might explain it aswell
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On August 27 2014 01:36 Luolis wrote: Yeah tvp is in a stupid spot atm. Its either this stupid allin, or terran getting rekt. Ggwp blizz id rather watch blink allins than this shit.
that's completley false. Watch any games by Maru, Taeja Flash etc. Flash is the only top top top level Korean terran who does a lot of scv pulls, but he is also able to win macro games.
Nice song btw.
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On August 27 2014 01:36 phil.ipp wrote: why didnt he just force field the ramp like for 2 minutes for extra colossi?
He definitely messed that up very bad. First overcharging the third was a serious sin of overconfidence. He knew uThermal was all-in, holding the third should be the last of his priorities. Then he ate that glorious EMP and had no sentry energy left. Welmu lost it, it should never have worked.
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On August 27 2014 01:33 ThomasjServo wrote: Is uThermal's single Starport approach unique in TvP? Seems like he sacks the extra port for the faster ghosts, also just opts to not drop and sticks to a low medivac count. Nope, for a long time SCV pulls were done out of only one Starport.
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On August 27 2014 01:38 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 01:37 Luolis wrote:On August 27 2014 01:37 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On August 27 2014 01:36 Luolis wrote: Yeah tvp is in a stupid spot atm. Its either this stupid allin, or terran getting rekt. Ggwp blizz id rather watch blink allins than this shit. You are so wrong Yeah, how am i actually wrong? Terrans getting rekt if they do something else than scv all in Im sorry but, theres like 30% chance for terrans to win with other stuff than the scv allin so why would you not do it.
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On August 27 2014 01:37 Luolis wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 01:37 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On August 27 2014 01:36 Luolis wrote: Yeah tvp is in a stupid spot atm. Its either this stupid allin, or terran getting rekt. Ggwp blizz id rather watch blink allins than this shit. You are so wrong Yeah, how am i actually wrong? No one is forcing you to watch, unless there is some Ludivico business happening, and you've been allowed the use of a keyboard and mouse.
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On August 27 2014 01:38 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 01:36 phil.ipp wrote: why didnt he just force field the ramp like for 2 minutes for extra colossi? He definitely messed that up very bad. First overcharging the third was a serious sin of overconfidence. He knew uThermal was all-in, holding the third should be the last of his priorities. Then he ate that glorious EMP and had no sentry energy left. Welmu lost it, it should never have worked. Actually he had but Welmu used few guardians shields
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On August 27 2014 01:39 ThomasjServo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 01:37 Luolis wrote:On August 27 2014 01:37 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On August 27 2014 01:36 Luolis wrote: Yeah tvp is in a stupid spot atm. Its either this stupid allin, or terran getting rekt. Ggwp blizz id rather watch blink allins than this shit. You are so wrong Yeah, how am i actually wrong? No one is forcing you to watch, unless there is some Ludivico business happening, and you've been allowed the use of a keyboard and mouse. Oh im sorry, could you actually answer my question, and not be a dick please.
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On August 27 2014 01:39 Luolis wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 01:38 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On August 27 2014 01:37 Luolis wrote:On August 27 2014 01:37 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On August 27 2014 01:36 Luolis wrote: Yeah tvp is in a stupid spot atm. Its either this stupid allin, or terran getting rekt. Ggwp blizz id rather watch blink allins than this shit. You are so wrong Yeah, how am i actually wrong? Terrans getting rekt if they do something else than scv all in Im sorry but, theres like 30% chance for terrans to win with other stuff than the scv allin so why would you not do it.
Where did you get that statistic. Oh i know. You pulled it right of your ass.
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On August 27 2014 01:40 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 01:38 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 27 2014 01:36 phil.ipp wrote: why didnt he just force field the ramp like for 2 minutes for extra colossi? He definitely messed that up very bad. First overcharging the third was a serious sin of overconfidence. He knew uThermal was all-in, holding the third should be the last of his priorities. Then he ate that glorious EMP and had no sentry energy left. Welmu lost it, it should never have worked. Actually he had but Welmu used few guardians shields
At that point with the sentry energy he had left the time he would have bought would have been borderline irrelevant. I can understand his decision to throw guardian shields which are so pivotal. But if he just lets his third die and warps non stop while preparing to overcharge his main/natural (imagine if he could have overcharged his natural in the game !) he was perfectly fine.
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On August 27 2014 01:40 robson1 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 01:39 Luolis wrote:On August 27 2014 01:38 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On August 27 2014 01:37 Luolis wrote:On August 27 2014 01:37 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On August 27 2014 01:36 Luolis wrote: Yeah tvp is in a stupid spot atm. Its either this stupid allin, or terran getting rekt. Ggwp blizz id rather watch blink allins than this shit. You are so wrong Yeah, how am i actually wrong? Terrans getting rekt if they do something else than scv all in Im sorry but, theres like 30% chance for terrans to win with other stuff than the scv allin so why would you not do it. Where did you get that statistic. Oh i know. You pulled it right of your ass. Its just an estimate. Pretty close to the truth though. Most of the games in TvP nowadays are that scvpull allin which is so unfun to watch its not even funny.
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On August 27 2014 01:40 Luolis wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 01:39 ThomasjServo wrote:On August 27 2014 01:37 Luolis wrote:On August 27 2014 01:37 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On August 27 2014 01:36 Luolis wrote: Yeah tvp is in a stupid spot atm. Its either this stupid allin, or terran getting rekt. Ggwp blizz id rather watch blink allins than this shit. You are so wrong Yeah, how am i actually wrong? No one is forcing you to watch, unless there is some Ludivico business happening, and you've been allowed the use of a keyboard and mouse. Oh im sorry, could you actually answer my question, and not be a dick please. Pot, Kettle, Black.
You're whining about a MU, when things are moderately in flux around the mine change, TvP has been creating some very interesting engagements on both sides, you don't need to flip out every time a Protoss dies to a valid, albeit unpopular (from the spectator's point of view) strategy.
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Please dont die to anything stupid TLO gogo fighting!
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On August 27 2014 01:44 ThomasjServo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 01:40 Luolis wrote:On August 27 2014 01:39 ThomasjServo wrote:On August 27 2014 01:37 Luolis wrote:On August 27 2014 01:37 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On August 27 2014 01:36 Luolis wrote: Yeah tvp is in a stupid spot atm. Its either this stupid allin, or terran getting rekt. Ggwp blizz id rather watch blink allins than this shit. You are so wrong Yeah, how am i actually wrong? No one is forcing you to watch, unless there is some Ludivico business happening, and you've been allowed the use of a keyboard and mouse. Oh im sorry, could you actually answer my question, and not be a dick please. Pot, Kettle, Black. You're whining about a MU, when things are moderately in flux around the mine change, TvP has been creating some very interesting engagements on both sides, you don't need to flip out every time a Protoss dies to a valid, albeit unpopular (from the spectator's point of view) strategy. I dislike TvP becuase of how the matchup is at the moment. Its mostly just scvpulls from the terran and way too often protoss just dies because they dont have storm. Its not fun to watch at all.
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Is it just me or does TLO never seem to play against anything other than Zerg in WCS?
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On August 27 2014 01:46 Luolis wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 01:44 ThomasjServo wrote:On August 27 2014 01:40 Luolis wrote:On August 27 2014 01:39 ThomasjServo wrote:On August 27 2014 01:37 Luolis wrote:On August 27 2014 01:37 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On August 27 2014 01:36 Luolis wrote: Yeah tvp is in a stupid spot atm. Its either this stupid allin, or terran getting rekt. Ggwp blizz id rather watch blink allins than this shit. You are so wrong Yeah, how am i actually wrong? No one is forcing you to watch, unless there is some Ludivico business happening, and you've been allowed the use of a keyboard and mouse. Oh im sorry, could you actually answer my question, and not be a dick please. Pot, Kettle, Black. You're whining about a MU, when things are moderately in flux around the mine change, TvP has been creating some very interesting engagements on both sides, you don't need to flip out every time a Protoss dies to a valid, albeit unpopular (from the spectator's point of view) strategy. I dislike TvP becuase of how the matchup is at the moment. Its mostly just scvpulls from the terran and way too often protoss just dies because they dont have storm. Its not fun to watch at all. You don't need storm to hold SCVs pull.
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On August 27 2014 01:46 Aeromi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 01:46 Luolis wrote:On August 27 2014 01:44 ThomasjServo wrote:On August 27 2014 01:40 Luolis wrote:On August 27 2014 01:39 ThomasjServo wrote:On August 27 2014 01:37 Luolis wrote:On August 27 2014 01:37 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On August 27 2014 01:36 Luolis wrote: Yeah tvp is in a stupid spot atm. Its either this stupid allin, or terran getting rekt. Ggwp blizz id rather watch blink allins than this shit. You are so wrong Yeah, how am i actually wrong? No one is forcing you to watch, unless there is some Ludivico business happening, and you've been allowed the use of a keyboard and mouse. Oh im sorry, could you actually answer my question, and not be a dick please. Pot, Kettle, Black. You're whining about a MU, when things are moderately in flux around the mine change, TvP has been creating some very interesting engagements on both sides, you don't need to flip out every time a Protoss dies to a valid, albeit unpopular (from the spectator's point of view) strategy. I dislike TvP becuase of how the matchup is at the moment. Its mostly just scvpulls from the terran and way too often protoss just dies because they dont have storm. Its not fun to watch at all. You don't need storm to hold SCVs pull. You dont, but alot of the times its needed. I sadly dont remember alot of games where protoss even held that. Most recent one i saw was San vs Morrow and Parting vs Bbyong (i think it was Bbyong).
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Nice hold! That was some good defending i think he has got his
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Poll: Recommend TLO vs. LiveZerg Game 1?★- Do not see this game no matter what (1) 8% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2) 15% ★★★- Good game (6) 46% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (3) 23% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 8% 13 total votes Your vote: Recommend TLO vs. LiveZerg Game 1? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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at least it wasn't a huge roach cockfight.
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#uThermalUnchanedFromNALag
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On August 27 2014 01:46 ThomasjServo wrote: Is it just me or does TLO never seem to play against anything other than Zerg in WCS?
By complete accident he now has 3 Zergs in a row, but otherwise he faced 1 Terran & 5 Protoss this year. Last year he also faced Zerg the least, and Terran the most. So it's just a recent streak that he's guaranteed to break after this match!
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On August 27 2014 01:55 Neemi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 01:46 ThomasjServo wrote: Is it just me or does TLO never seem to play against anything other than Zerg in WCS? By complete accident he now has 3 Zergs in a row, but otherwise he faced 1 Terran & 5 Protoss this year. Last year he also faced Zerg the least, and Terran the most. So it's just a recent streak that he's guaranteed to break after this match! I may only just catch his ZvZ then, but at least I am not completely insane.
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At this rate the group will end at 20:30.
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they didn't see that LZ canceled his bane best?
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I'm certainly no ZvZ expert, but LiveZerg's build seems really strange to me.
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0 drones is a disaster for TLO
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With the upgrades for TLO this attack would have been so much stronger
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On August 27 2014 02:00 [PkF] Wire wrote: I'm certainly no ZvZ expert, but LiveZerg's build seems really strange to me. LiveZerg marches to the beat of his own drum
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Just got here, LiveZerg's build seems pretty normal right now.
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On August 27 2014 02:00 [PkF] Wire wrote: I'm certainly no ZvZ expert, but LiveZerg's build seems really strange to me.
Certainly, TLO's is even more weird tho, ling speed into melee upgrades resulting in a speed timing not lined up with the upgrades so he already lost all lings before upgrades complete...
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On August 27 2014 02:03 Zheryn wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 02:00 [PkF] Wire wrote: I'm certainly no ZvZ expert, but LiveZerg's build seems really strange to me. Certainly, TLO's is even more weird tho, ling speed into melee upgrades resulting in a speed timing not lined up with the upgrades so he already lost all lings before upgrades complete...
In fact I messed it up, I thought LiveZerg was getting the melee upgrade, and only understood my mistake when LiveZerg's attack hit. Still, very atypical game so far.
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I just thought of why "nobody" seems to be watching WCS:EU!
If I assume that a non-zero amount of viewers for WCS:EU comes from the Americas, then we have to take into consideration that this event started at 12:00pm in Eastern Standard Time on a Tuesday.
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do brooldlords ever work in ZvZ?
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On August 27 2014 02:04 IntoTheheart wrote: I just thought of why "nobody" seems to be watching WCS:EU!
If I assume that a non-zero amount of viewers for WCS:EU comes from the Americas, then we have to take into consideration that this event started at 12:00pm in Eastern Standard Time on a Tuesday. Lost passion, or employment? You Decide.
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On August 27 2014 02:04 IntoTheheart wrote: I just thought of why "nobody" seems to be watching WCS:EU!
If I assume that a non-zero amount of viewers for WCS:EU comes from the Americas, then we have to take into consideration that this event started at 12:00pm in Eastern Standard Time on a Tuesday.
But you're from Canada and I'm from America. And we're worth at least 2k viewers each!
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On August 27 2014 02:06 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 02:04 IntoTheheart wrote: I just thought of why "nobody" seems to be watching WCS:EU!
If I assume that a non-zero amount of viewers for WCS:EU comes from the Americas, then we have to take into consideration that this event started at 12:00pm in Eastern Standard Time on a Tuesday. But you're from Canada and I'm from America. And we're worth at least 2k viewers each!
I saw that post on page 2 or something. ^_^
And does the amount of viewers you count as scale off of TL posts? :O
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On August 27 2014 02:06 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 02:04 IntoTheheart wrote: I just thought of why "nobody" seems to be watching WCS:EU!
If I assume that a non-zero amount of viewers for WCS:EU comes from the Americas, then we have to take into consideration that this event started at 12:00pm in Eastern Standard Time on a Tuesday. But you're from Canada and I'm from America. And we're worth at least 2k viewers each! Virtual PCs buffing viewer numbers?
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I hope they get rid of these kind of huge maps for the future. It's hard enough to attack in ZvZ on a normal sized map.
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On August 27 2014 02:05 robson1 wrote: do brooldlords ever work in ZvZ?
scarlett makes it work once in a while, but it's risky and I'm not sure if it's a good idea for TLO here.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
broodlords, much like in ZvT and ZvP is very timing/surprise bitch! based. If he can push and keep the push going without getting delayed, he should win
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On August 27 2014 02:06 IntoTheheart wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 02:06 stuchiu wrote:On August 27 2014 02:04 IntoTheheart wrote: I just thought of why "nobody" seems to be watching WCS:EU!
If I assume that a non-zero amount of viewers for WCS:EU comes from the Americas, then we have to take into consideration that this event started at 12:00pm in Eastern Standard Time on a Tuesday. But you're from Canada and I'm from America. And we're worth at least 2k viewers each! I saw that post on page 2 or something. ^_^ And does the amount of viewers you count as scale off of TL posts? :O
I'm certain shellshock would know more about this than me.
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Ultras dont hit up livezerg -_-
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woah, that crawler push is creative.
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wow livezerg. Complete fumble, falling apart...
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Ridiculous game. That was fun !
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Ultras are so bad, stop making them.
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On August 27 2014 02:09 Knatterking wrote: woah, that crawler push is creative. You said it!
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Crazy game But TLO won, that alone makes it good
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wow, that game suddenly got exciting and quickly ended
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Poll: Recommend TLO vs. LiveZerg Game 2?★- Do not see this game no matter what (1) 8% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2) 17% ★★★- Good game (2) 17% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (5) 42% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2) 17% 12 total votes Your vote: Recommend TLO vs. LiveZerg Game 2? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend TLO vs. LiveZerg Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★★★- Good game (2) 50% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 25% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 25% 4 total votes Your vote: Recommend TLO vs. LiveZerg Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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I asked Welmu to get through his grp. He answered, " Okey if you want so". He is ready.
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Well that was more one sided than I thought it was gonna be.
GG, TLO is always fun to watch
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On August 27 2014 02:09 Weavel wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 02:09 Knatterking wrote: woah, that crawler push is creative. You said it!
another piece of TLO's soul dies.
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messy game, but the final push was nicely done by TLO.
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most creative zvz of all time folks
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On August 27 2014 02:11 Shellshock wrote: most creative zvz of all time folks Just typical TLO.
He's so wacky and awesome!
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Sad... both my heart players in the loser match
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Russia  You are about to get rekt
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On August 27 2014 02:16 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:Russia  Russia just got Blitzkrieged by the German, lets see if the Finns can lay down a similar punishment.
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Fun fact : so far in WCS EU and KR (AM being an exception), only one player who finished last in his group wasn't Protoss (TY). Will Welmu succumb to this ominous trend ?
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On August 27 2014 02:18 [PkF] Wire wrote: Fun fact : so far in WCS EU and KR (AM being an exception), only one player who finished last in his group wasn't Protoss (TY). Will Welmu succumb to this ominous trend ? NO!
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livezerg looks like a Bond villain's henchman
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On August 27 2014 02:19 D-light wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 02:18 [PkF] Wire wrote: Fun fact : so far in WCS EU and KR (AM being an exception), only one player who finished last in his group wasn't Protoss (TY). Will Welmu succumb to this ominous trend ? NO!
I'd normally be confident you're right, but seeing the way Welmu handled those all-ins vs uThermal... I'm actually worried.
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Such peppy intros by James.
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Israeli starleague 20 viewes
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On August 27 2014 02:18 [PkF] Wire wrote: Fun fact : so far in WCS EU and KR (AM being an exception), only one player who finished last in his group wasn't Protoss (TY). Will Welmu succumb to this ominous trend ?
I could see it happening.
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On August 27 2014 02:20 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:Israeli starleague 20 viewes  Did they add an English stream?
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On August 27 2014 02:20 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 02:19 D-light wrote:On August 27 2014 02:18 [PkF] Wire wrote: Fun fact : so far in WCS EU and KR (AM being an exception), only one player who finished last in his group wasn't Protoss (TY). Will Welmu succumb to this ominous trend ? NO! I'd normally be confident you're right, but seeing the way Welmu handled those all-ins vs uThermal... I'm actually worried. I doubt a drone pull would be successful.
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On August 27 2014 02:11 Shellshock wrote: most creative zvz of all time folks
How about early in WoL where Nestea tech'd up to Lair really quickly and his original overlord that made its way across the map began to drop creep, on which Nestea built a couple spines to shut down HomerToss' (actual ID escapes me) fast expand?
I'm an idiot: ZvZ... please ignore...
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On August 27 2014 02:21 ThomasjServo wrote:Did they add an English stream?
They need a French stream to be mainstream.
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On August 27 2014 02:21 D-light wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 02:20 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 27 2014 02:19 D-light wrote:On August 27 2014 02:18 [PkF] Wire wrote: Fun fact : so far in WCS EU and KR (AM being an exception), only one player who finished last in his group wasn't Protoss (TY). Will Welmu succumb to this ominous trend ? NO! I'd normally be confident you're right, but seeing the way Welmu handled those all-ins vs uThermal... I'm actually worried. I doubt a drone pull would be successful.
Ha ha ha, LiveZerg would actually be the kind of guy to make such strange things ^^. I just meant he didn't look on point today, but let's see how his PvZ is working.
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On August 27 2014 02:21 D-light wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 02:20 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 27 2014 02:19 D-light wrote:On August 27 2014 02:18 [PkF] Wire wrote: Fun fact : so far in WCS EU and KR (AM being an exception), only one player who finished last in his group wasn't Protoss (TY). Will Welmu succumb to this ominous trend ? NO! I'd normally be confident you're right, but seeing the way Welmu handled those all-ins vs uThermal... I'm actually worried. I doubt a drone pull would be successful. Elfi probe pulled and noone thought it would work
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On August 27 2014 02:23 BlackCompany wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 02:21 D-light wrote:On August 27 2014 02:20 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 27 2014 02:19 D-light wrote:On August 27 2014 02:18 [PkF] Wire wrote: Fun fact : so far in WCS EU and KR (AM being an exception), only one player who finished last in his group wasn't Protoss (TY). Will Welmu succumb to this ominous trend ? NO! I'd normally be confident you're right, but seeing the way Welmu handled those all-ins vs uThermal... I'm actually worried. I doubt a drone pull would be successful. Elfi probe pulled and noone thought it would work Hes Finnish. It ssomething limited to finns
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On August 27 2014 02:22 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 02:21 ThomasjServo wrote:On August 27 2014 02:20 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:Israeli starleague 20 viewes  Did they add an English stream? They need a French stream to be mainstream. At least I could get the gist of things in French. Streaming in what I think is Hebrew kind of hinders your potential audience, especially for the caliber of players that they have.
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On August 27 2014 02:22 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 02:21 ThomasjServo wrote:On August 27 2014 02:20 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:Israeli starleague 20 viewes  Did they add an English stream? They need a French stream to be mainstream. I'm working on it.
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Live Zerg would have to have been pissed if that didn't come down.
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Wow, good call by LiveZerg. Welmu is fine though, LZ sacrificed a lot for that Nexus.
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That was really bad from Welmu. He definitely should have held that. Misfocusing with the oracle, losing the sentries.
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Sometimes I wonder if Protosses are jedi. If you strike my 3rd down, I shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine.
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Welmu is looking really shaky
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That double tripple win for Welmu
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On August 27 2014 02:30 stuchiu wrote: Sometimes I wonder if Protosses are jedi. If you strike my 3rd down, I shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine. terran chuu chuu train?
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Strange game. Thanks to his infestor tech LZ should be able to hold on. It's really a close one.
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On August 27 2014 02:30 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 02:30 stuchiu wrote: Sometimes I wonder if Protosses are jedi. If you strike my 3rd down, I shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine. terran chuu chuu train?
Terran just had high ground, duh
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On August 27 2014 02:30 stuchiu wrote: Sometimes I wonder if Protosses are jedi. If you strike my 3rd down, I shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine. They become one with the Inca, a technique only few Protoss know.
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I love Brood Lords, I don't BL Infestor miss them, but I do wish I saw more of them.
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Really looks like the style Slam showcased vs puCK.
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Damn, Welmu, be careful. D:
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On August 27 2014 02:34 [PkF] Wire wrote: Really looks like the style Slam showcased vs puCK.
Slam stuck with infestor/viper though. This is more WoL-esque. BL/infestor/ultra
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SLIBKO THIS IS FOR YOU - LiveZerg
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I kinda really like seeing Brood Lords again. I know there's the whole negative feeling towards them because of That Era, but dammit, I like Brood Lords.
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That zealot warp in meant Welmu could not build tempests because he was supply blocked. Very unfortunate.
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BL-Infestor aaarh - the nightmares!!
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PTSD for some many Protoss
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If only there was a long range unit which does enormous dmg to massive units...
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Okay, that recall to escape and defend his third was cute as hell from Welmu, lol.
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On August 27 2014 02:36 Rehio wrote: I kinda of really like seeing Brood Lords again. I know there's the whole negative feeling towards them because of That Era, but dammit, I like Brood Lords. Wasn't it the Infestors that made that era unbearable anyway? I seem to remember them not nerfing BLs but FG when HotS came about.
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On August 27 2014 02:37 CruelZeratul wrote: If only there was a long range unit which does enormous dmg to massive units... You mean the...
warhound?
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Well this is certainly not Welmus day so far :/ he has to push now if he wants to win
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Welmu has one army left. I doubt it will be enough, but you never know with Protoss !
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On August 27 2014 02:38 IntoTheheart wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 02:37 CruelZeratul wrote: If only there was a long range unit which does enormous dmg to massive units... You mean the... warhound?
The one who can't be named.
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On August 27 2014 02:16 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:Russia  You are about to get rekt  What did you say?
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hahahahah what a terrible way to lose. Forgetting 8 infestors.
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LZ, find those goddamns infestors !!!
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On August 27 2014 02:38 IntoTheheart wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 02:37 CruelZeratul wrote: If only there was a long range unit which does enormous dmg to massive units... You mean the... warhound?
That would be enormous dmg against everything
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those infestors just chilling...
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On August 27 2014 02:38 IntoTheheart wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 02:36 Rehio wrote: I kinda of really like seeing Brood Lords again. I know there's the whole negative feeling towards them because of That Era, but dammit, I like Brood Lords. Wasn't it the Infestors that made that era unbearable anyway? I seem to remember them not nerfing BLs but FG when HotS came about. Well fungal being pure, un-dodgable AOE, it certainly made the combo much more difficult to deal with. And the IT getting range upgrades as well.
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those infestors...chilling
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hahaha that was just...weird
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Poll: Recommend Losers Match Game 1?★- Do not see this game no matter what (2) 11% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★★★- Good game (2) 11% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (10) 56% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (4) 22% 18 total votes Your vote: Recommend Losers Match Game 1? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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On August 27 2014 02:38 IntoTheheart wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 02:37 CruelZeratul wrote: If only there was a long range unit which does enormous dmg to massive units... You mean the... warhound? Anti-mechanical damage @____@
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yeah, ill just go kill myself, see you later...
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This was like the definition of a full foreigner game. Derp after derp until the bitter and hilarious end.
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Who needs Infestors when you can snipe buildings!
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On August 27 2014 02:39 stuchiu wrote: hahahahah what a terrible way to lose. Forgetting 8 infestors. You mean... win.
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This was a battle of throws, and though LZ did his best, Welmu's "well let's not remake any building" clearly wins.
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I believe Welmu had a chance if he hadn't chased the army out of LiveZerg's base
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That ending...
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...oh damn.
Now Welmu 4-0 gogo?
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OH SHIT, THAT ENDING.
And that complete lack of enthusiasm from Apollo, it seems. Feels weird, I'm used to him being more hyped up. Come on, Apollo, get hype! :D
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Players dropping the win like it was a boiling potato >_>
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these games are so sloppy o.O
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Well this was entertaining, what a game
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On August 27 2014 02:39 stuchiu wrote: hahahahah what a terrible way to lose. Forgetting 8 infestors. You might make fun of Nerchio and his 1a infestors but that would never happen to him!
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maybe just score both with a loss and next map winner advances?
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That game was both players trying to out full-foreigner each other but Welmu went fuller-foreigner.
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This game is a 5-star match. Easy.
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LiveZerg tricked Welmu with Benny Hill tactic.
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Only Sith deal in absolutes Apollo, Jedi deal in contradiction.
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And some people wonder why others won't watch wcs eu where all the stories are and foreigners and whatever.
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That was funny, I won't lie.
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On August 27 2014 02:42 ThomasjServo wrote: Only Sith deal in absolutes Apollo, Jedi deal in contradiction. This makes me want to play KOTOR while watching the stream.
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On August 27 2014 02:41 IntoTheheart wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 02:39 stuchiu wrote: hahahahah what a terrible way to lose. Forgetting 8 infestors. You mean... win.
Truly WoL
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On August 27 2014 02:42 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: That game was both players trying to out full-foreigner each other but Welmu went fuller-foreigner.
I think this sums up the game very well Some terrible decisions/control mistakes from both sides, but the decision not to remake an assimilator somewhere was clearly the worst.
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On August 27 2014 02:42 ThomasjServo wrote: Only Sith deal in absolutes Apollo, Jedi deal in contradiction. isnt it an absolute to say that Sith only deal in absolutes so really Jedis are sith?
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Come on, gas first. Let's do it, Livezerg, bring the pain.
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Where's the French caster?
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On August 27 2014 02:42 IntoTheheart wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 02:42 ThomasjServo wrote: Only Sith deal in absolutes Apollo, Jedi deal in contradiction. This makes me want to play KOTOR while watching the stream. MMO or just the older, RPG.
On August 27 2014 02:43 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 02:42 ThomasjServo wrote: Only Sith deal in absolutes Apollo, Jedi deal in contradiction. isnt it an absolute to say that Sith only deal in absolutes so really Jedis are sith? Just a typical Lucas-ism, he didn't think about a lot of stuff, like how 3PO and R2 don't recognize Tatooine at all.
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On August 27 2014 02:43 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 02:42 ThomasjServo wrote: Only Sith deal in absolutes Apollo, Jedi deal in contradiction. isnt it an absolute to say that Sith only deal in absolutes so really Jedis are sith?
thanks anakin
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I can't wait for a 'Bronze League Heroes' of that game. 
Okay maybe a tad harsh but that was a really shit game for what is supposed to be the highest level - Premier League. Which is a shame because both LiveZerg and especially Welmu have shown really good games in the past.
They're much better than that crap.
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On August 27 2014 02:44 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 02:43 Shellshock wrote:On August 27 2014 02:42 ThomasjServo wrote: Only Sith deal in absolutes Apollo, Jedi deal in contradiction. isnt it an absolute to say that Sith only deal in absolutes so really Jedis are sith? thanks anakin KBB's 2nd favorite character D:
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at the same time, I still don't know why BLord is playing in Israeli Star League
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On August 27 2014 02:44 ThomasjServo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 02:42 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 27 2014 02:42 ThomasjServo wrote: Only Sith deal in absolutes Apollo, Jedi deal in contradiction. This makes me want to play KOTOR while watching the stream. MMO or just the older, RPG. Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 02:43 Shellshock wrote:On August 27 2014 02:42 ThomasjServo wrote: Only Sith deal in absolutes Apollo, Jedi deal in contradiction. isnt it an absolute to say that Sith only deal in absolutes so really Jedis are sith? Just a typical Lucas-ism, he didn't think about a lot of stuff, like how 3PO and R2 don't recognize Tatooine at all. KOTOR, mate, not TOR.
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On August 27 2014 02:45 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 02:44 stuchiu wrote:On August 27 2014 02:43 Shellshock wrote:On August 27 2014 02:42 ThomasjServo wrote: Only Sith deal in absolutes Apollo, Jedi deal in contradiction. isnt it an absolute to say that Sith only deal in absolutes so really Jedis are sith? thanks anakin KBB's 2nd favorite character D:
no, seriously?
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livezerg wasted a lot of drone HP trying to block before it was even economically possible for welmu to build the nexus
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On August 27 2014 02:45 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 02:45 Shellshock wrote:On August 27 2014 02:44 stuchiu wrote:On August 27 2014 02:43 Shellshock wrote:On August 27 2014 02:42 ThomasjServo wrote: Only Sith deal in absolutes Apollo, Jedi deal in contradiction. isnt it an absolute to say that Sith only deal in absolutes so really Jedis are sith? thanks anakin KBB's 2nd favorite character D: no, seriously? elfi is to Waxangel and Finland as Jar Jar Binks is to KadaverBB
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On August 27 2014 02:45 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 02:44 stuchiu wrote:On August 27 2014 02:43 Shellshock wrote:On August 27 2014 02:42 ThomasjServo wrote: Only Sith deal in absolutes Apollo, Jedi deal in contradiction. isnt it an absolute to say that Sith only deal in absolutes so really Jedis are sith? thanks anakin KBB's 2nd favorite character D: Wow, he has such good taste in Star Trek episodes though.
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On August 27 2014 02:46 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 02:45 stuchiu wrote:On August 27 2014 02:45 Shellshock wrote:On August 27 2014 02:44 stuchiu wrote:On August 27 2014 02:43 Shellshock wrote:On August 27 2014 02:42 ThomasjServo wrote: Only Sith deal in absolutes Apollo, Jedi deal in contradiction. isnt it an absolute to say that Sith only deal in absolutes so really Jedis are sith? thanks anakin KBB's 2nd favorite character D: no, seriously? elfi is to Waxangel and Finland as Jar Jar Binks is to KadaverBB And what that is supposed to mean?
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On August 27 2014 02:45 IntoTheheart wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 02:44 ThomasjServo wrote:On August 27 2014 02:42 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 27 2014 02:42 ThomasjServo wrote: Only Sith deal in absolutes Apollo, Jedi deal in contradiction. This makes me want to play KOTOR while watching the stream. MMO or just the older, RPG. On August 27 2014 02:43 Shellshock wrote:On August 27 2014 02:42 ThomasjServo wrote: Only Sith deal in absolutes Apollo, Jedi deal in contradiction. isnt it an absolute to say that Sith only deal in absolutes so really Jedis are sith? Just a typical Lucas-ism, he didn't think about a lot of stuff, like how 3PO and R2 don't recognize Tatooine at all. KOTOR, mate, not TOR. In my head, what you call TOR, I call KOTOR. /shrug. You should though, fun game.
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On August 27 2014 02:47 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 02:46 Shellshock wrote:On August 27 2014 02:45 stuchiu wrote:On August 27 2014 02:45 Shellshock wrote:On August 27 2014 02:44 stuchiu wrote:On August 27 2014 02:43 Shellshock wrote:On August 27 2014 02:42 ThomasjServo wrote: Only Sith deal in absolutes Apollo, Jedi deal in contradiction. isnt it an absolute to say that Sith only deal in absolutes so really Jedis are sith? thanks anakin KBB's 2nd favorite character D: no, seriously? elfi is to Waxangel and Finland as Jar Jar Binks is to KadaverBB And what that is supposed to mean? their favorites
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That Pylon placement indicates whatever tech structure he throws down won't be a Robo.
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On August 27 2014 02:44 ThomasjServo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 02:42 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 27 2014 02:42 ThomasjServo wrote: Only Sith deal in absolutes Apollo, Jedi deal in contradiction. This makes me want to play KOTOR while watching the stream. MMO or just the older, RPG. Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 02:43 Shellshock wrote:On August 27 2014 02:42 ThomasjServo wrote: Only Sith deal in absolutes Apollo, Jedi deal in contradiction. isnt it an absolute to say that Sith only deal in absolutes so really Jedis are sith? Just a typical Lucas-ism, he didn't think about a lot of stuff, like how 3PO and R2 don't recognize Tatooine at all.
3PO's memory got erased at the end of E3. And there is nothing that tells us wheter ot not R2 recognizes it.
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On August 27 2014 02:47 ThomasjServo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 02:45 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 27 2014 02:44 ThomasjServo wrote:On August 27 2014 02:42 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 27 2014 02:42 ThomasjServo wrote: Only Sith deal in absolutes Apollo, Jedi deal in contradiction. This makes me want to play KOTOR while watching the stream. MMO or just the older, RPG. On August 27 2014 02:43 Shellshock wrote:On August 27 2014 02:42 ThomasjServo wrote: Only Sith deal in absolutes Apollo, Jedi deal in contradiction. isnt it an absolute to say that Sith only deal in absolutes so really Jedis are sith? Just a typical Lucas-ism, he didn't think about a lot of stuff, like how 3PO and R2 don't recognize Tatooine at all. KOTOR, mate, not TOR. In my head, what you call TOR, I call KOTOR. /shrug. You should though, fun game. I thought that it was always just called TOR. My bad, in that case. But the old Bioware RPG where you play as a dude and have Jennifer Hale's voice as support. ^_^
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On August 27 2014 02:47 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 02:46 Shellshock wrote:On August 27 2014 02:45 stuchiu wrote:On August 27 2014 02:45 Shellshock wrote:On August 27 2014 02:44 stuchiu wrote:On August 27 2014 02:43 Shellshock wrote:On August 27 2014 02:42 ThomasjServo wrote: Only Sith deal in absolutes Apollo, Jedi deal in contradiction. isnt it an absolute to say that Sith only deal in absolutes so really Jedis are sith? thanks anakin KBB's 2nd favorite character D: no, seriously? elfi is to Waxangel and Finland as Jar Jar Binks is to KadaverBB And what that is supposed to mean?
KBB thinks Jar Jar Binks is a god.
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On August 27 2014 02:48 IntoTheheart wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 02:47 ThomasjServo wrote:On August 27 2014 02:45 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 27 2014 02:44 ThomasjServo wrote:On August 27 2014 02:42 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 27 2014 02:42 ThomasjServo wrote: Only Sith deal in absolutes Apollo, Jedi deal in contradiction. This makes me want to play KOTOR while watching the stream. MMO or just the older, RPG. On August 27 2014 02:43 Shellshock wrote:On August 27 2014 02:42 ThomasjServo wrote: Only Sith deal in absolutes Apollo, Jedi deal in contradiction. isnt it an absolute to say that Sith only deal in absolutes so really Jedis are sith? Just a typical Lucas-ism, he didn't think about a lot of stuff, like how 3PO and R2 don't recognize Tatooine at all. KOTOR, mate, not TOR. In my head, what you call TOR, I call KOTOR. /shrug. You should though, fun game. I thought that it was always just called TOR. My bad, in that case. But the old Bioware RPG where you play as a dude and have Jennifer Hale's voice as support. ^_^
Kotor best game.
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On August 27 2014 02:45 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 02:44 stuchiu wrote:On August 27 2014 02:43 Shellshock wrote:On August 27 2014 02:42 ThomasjServo wrote: Only Sith deal in absolutes Apollo, Jedi deal in contradiction. isnt it an absolute to say that Sith only deal in absolutes so really Jedis are sith? thanks anakin KBB's 2nd favorite character D: Whether that speaks more to his taste, or the general shittiness of star wars characters in general is up for debate.
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so 8 sentries just died for no reason
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On August 27 2014 02:49 Squat wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 02:45 Shellshock wrote:On August 27 2014 02:44 stuchiu wrote:On August 27 2014 02:43 Shellshock wrote:On August 27 2014 02:42 ThomasjServo wrote: Only Sith deal in absolutes Apollo, Jedi deal in contradiction. isnt it an absolute to say that Sith only deal in absolutes so really Jedis are sith? thanks anakin KBB's 2nd favorite character D: Whether that speaks more to his taste, or the general shittiness of star wars characters in general is up for debate. ???
All 3 episodes of Star Wars had great characters.
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And it seems like Welmu has been taking force field lessons from Elfi. Finnish force fields are best force fields.
All 3 episodes of Star Wars had great characters. I refuse to dignify this with a real response.
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On August 27 2014 02:48 CruelZeratul wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 02:44 ThomasjServo wrote:On August 27 2014 02:42 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 27 2014 02:42 ThomasjServo wrote: Only Sith deal in absolutes Apollo, Jedi deal in contradiction. This makes me want to play KOTOR while watching the stream. MMO or just the older, RPG. On August 27 2014 02:43 Shellshock wrote:On August 27 2014 02:42 ThomasjServo wrote: Only Sith deal in absolutes Apollo, Jedi deal in contradiction. isnt it an absolute to say that Sith only deal in absolutes so really Jedis are sith? Just a typical Lucas-ism, he didn't think about a lot of stuff, like how 3PO and R2 don't recognize Tatooine at all. 3PO's memory got erased at the end of E3. And there is nothing that tells us wheter ot not R2 recognizes it. Womp womp, Forgot about that, I tried to not suffer through those more than I had to.
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Perkele.
Not like this, Welmu.
Not like this!
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Looks like 2-0 if LZ doesn't mess up...
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On August 27 2014 02:40 Luolis wrote: yeah, ill just go kill myself, see you later... bye...
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All 2-0s today, telling you.
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On August 27 2014 02:51 Luolis wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 02:40 Luolis wrote: yeah, ill just go kill myself, see you later... bye...
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On August 27 2014 02:51 Luolis wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 02:40 Luolis wrote: yeah, ill just go kill myself, see you later... bye... Not just yet?
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That was a lot of army lost for that nexus
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is LZ actually going to lose now?
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LiveZerg threw it when he sacrificed 20 hydras to kill a nexus @ 3rd.
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On August 27 2014 02:52 D-light wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 02:51 Luolis wrote:On August 27 2014 02:40 Luolis wrote: yeah, ill just go kill myself, see you later... bye... Not just yet?
Disgusting how your lack of faith was rewarded.
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On August 27 2014 02:48 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 02:47 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On August 27 2014 02:46 Shellshock wrote:On August 27 2014 02:45 stuchiu wrote:On August 27 2014 02:45 Shellshock wrote:On August 27 2014 02:44 stuchiu wrote:On August 27 2014 02:43 Shellshock wrote:On August 27 2014 02:42 ThomasjServo wrote: Only Sith deal in absolutes Apollo, Jedi deal in contradiction. isnt it an absolute to say that Sith only deal in absolutes so really Jedis are sith? thanks anakin KBB's 2nd favorite character D: no, seriously? elfi is to Waxangel and Finland as Jar Jar Binks is to KadaverBB And what that is supposed to mean? KBB thinks Jar Jar Binks is a god. That idiot should be removed from Star Wars universe
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On August 27 2014 02:52 D-light wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 02:51 Luolis wrote:On August 27 2014 02:40 Luolis wrote: yeah, ill just go kill myself, see you later... bye... Not just yet? Theres still hope.
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On August 27 2014 02:51 ThomasjServo wrote: All 2-0s today, telling you. My words are damn delicious.
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"Did they rrrrrrrrreally think I'd go 04?"
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WHY do you have to go into mutas when you have the game won lol. You ruined his sentries, just rally units and win ^-^
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WELMUUU WELMUUU
WELMUUU THANK YOU ELFI, I WILL PRAY TO YOU DAILY
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Three more wins, Welmu!
You can do it.
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Genius Muta switch into sacrificing all Hydras.
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Reminds of nexus sniping in TvP just to loose to the counter attack
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On August 27 2014 02:53 Circumstance wrote: "Did they rrrrrrrrreally think I'd go 04?" Well, 1-4 isn't that much better, if he loses. =/
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On August 27 2014 02:52 BlackCompany wrote: That was a lot of army lost for that nexus
Horrible decision by LZ. He had already kinda missed his timing after killing 8 sentries like for free with lackluster positioning but that was the nail in the coffin.
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I like how kael and apollo kept talking about how dead welmu was when he was moving to LZ's base with 30 more army supply. The game was over the moment he threw away all those hydras.
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On August 27 2014 02:54 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 02:52 BlackCompany wrote: That was a lot of army lost for that nexus Horrible decision by LZ. He had already kinda missed his timing after killing 8 sentries like for free with lackluster positioning but that was the nail in the coffin.
Yup, he was trying too hard by going mutas. Standard unit compoaition might have served him better
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On August 27 2014 02:51 Luolis wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 02:40 Luolis wrote: yeah, ill just go kill myself, see you later... bye... Won't miss you whiner
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That muta switch was just a bad idea. If he had just made more hydras he's have done better there
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On August 27 2014 02:56 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 02:51 Luolis wrote:On August 27 2014 02:40 Luolis wrote: yeah, ill just go kill myself, see you later... bye... Won't miss you whiner  How dare you? Im a Finn like you. Do you hate Naama as well? O_O
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I would watch an Apollo / Kaelaris soap opera.
And Apollo's talking about Christmas already.
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Did... LiveZerg lose a drone to a probe ?
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On August 27 2014 02:57 Luolis wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 02:56 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On August 27 2014 02:51 Luolis wrote:On August 27 2014 02:40 Luolis wrote: yeah, ill just go kill myself, see you later... bye... Won't miss you whiner  How dare you? Im a Finn like you. Do you hate Naama as well? O_O Naama trains chuu chuu. Isn't that what you hate?
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On August 27 2014 02:58 [PkF] Wire wrote: Did... LiveZerg lose a drone to a probe ? Yes.
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This casting seems very strange, today. O.o
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"They take out one of our boys? We take their gas."
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On August 27 2014 02:59 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 02:57 Luolis wrote:On August 27 2014 02:56 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On August 27 2014 02:51 Luolis wrote:On August 27 2014 02:40 Luolis wrote: yeah, ill just go kill myself, see you later... bye... Won't miss you whiner  How dare you? Im a Finn like you. Do you hate Naama as well? O_O Naama trains chuu chuu. Isn't that what you hate?  Naama would win the GSL if he came back from retirement.
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On August 27 2014 02:59 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 02:57 Luolis wrote:On August 27 2014 02:56 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On August 27 2014 02:51 Luolis wrote:On August 27 2014 02:40 Luolis wrote: yeah, ill just go kill myself, see you later... bye... Won't miss you whiner  How dare you? Im a Finn like you. Do you hate Naama as well? O_O Naama trains chuu chuu. Isn't that what you hate?  He does trains with every unit. Not just bio
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On August 27 2014 02:48 IntoTheheart wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 02:47 ThomasjServo wrote:On August 27 2014 02:45 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 27 2014 02:44 ThomasjServo wrote:On August 27 2014 02:42 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 27 2014 02:42 ThomasjServo wrote: Only Sith deal in absolutes Apollo, Jedi deal in contradiction. This makes me want to play KOTOR while watching the stream. MMO or just the older, RPG. On August 27 2014 02:43 Shellshock wrote:On August 27 2014 02:42 ThomasjServo wrote: Only Sith deal in absolutes Apollo, Jedi deal in contradiction. isnt it an absolute to say that Sith only deal in absolutes so really Jedis are sith? Just a typical Lucas-ism, he didn't think about a lot of stuff, like how 3PO and R2 don't recognize Tatooine at all. KOTOR, mate, not TOR. In my head, what you call TOR, I call KOTOR. /shrug. You should though, fun game. I thought that it was always just called TOR. My bad, in that case. But the old Bioware RPG where you play as a dude and have Jennifer Hale's voice as support. ^_^
Well you can play as a male or a female.
But yeah, it's one of the best games of all time. And it is so incompatible with new PCs you have to play it windowed with no cutscenes, so theoretically you could play it while watching this...
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On August 27 2014 03:00 Luolis wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 02:59 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On August 27 2014 02:57 Luolis wrote:On August 27 2014 02:56 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On August 27 2014 02:51 Luolis wrote:On August 27 2014 02:40 Luolis wrote: yeah, ill just go kill myself, see you later... bye... Won't miss you whiner  How dare you? Im a Finn like you. Do you hate Naama as well? O_O Naama trains chuu chuu. Isn't that what you hate?  He does trains with every unit. Not just bio 
Now I'm just picturing a Mine Train.
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On August 27 2014 03:00 Luolis wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 02:59 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On August 27 2014 02:57 Luolis wrote:On August 27 2014 02:56 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On August 27 2014 02:51 Luolis wrote:On August 27 2014 02:40 Luolis wrote: yeah, ill just go kill myself, see you later... bye... Won't miss you whiner  How dare you? Im a Finn like you. Do you hate Naama as well? O_O Naama trains chuu chuu. Isn't that what you hate?  He does trains with every unit. Not just bio  4port banshee <3
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On August 27 2014 03:01 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 03:00 Luolis wrote:On August 27 2014 02:59 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On August 27 2014 02:57 Luolis wrote:On August 27 2014 02:56 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On August 27 2014 02:51 Luolis wrote:On August 27 2014 02:40 Luolis wrote: yeah, ill just go kill myself, see you later... bye... Won't miss you whiner  How dare you? Im a Finn like you. Do you hate Naama as well? O_O Naama trains chuu chuu. Isn't that what you hate?  He does trains with every unit. Not just bio  4port banshee <3
Dont forget the TvP "build every unit on 3-bases and then pull scvs"-allin :D
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WELMUUUUU! HES GONNA DO THE COMEBACK NOW!
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RUSSIA GETTING REKT
I SAID
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Perfect counter to LZ's blind spores build. Welmu still alive, but man not looking sharp.
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On August 27 2014 03:02 Luolis wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 03:01 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On August 27 2014 03:00 Luolis wrote:On August 27 2014 02:59 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On August 27 2014 02:57 Luolis wrote:On August 27 2014 02:56 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On August 27 2014 02:51 Luolis wrote:On August 27 2014 02:40 Luolis wrote: yeah, ill just go kill myself, see you later... bye... Won't miss you whiner  How dare you? Im a Finn like you. Do you hate Naama as well? O_O Naama trains chuu chuu. Isn't that what you hate?  He does trains with every unit. Not just bio  4port banshee <3 Dont forget the TvP "build every unit on 3-bases and then pull scvs"-allin :D 1base battlecruiser never forget.
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On August 27 2014 03:01 Larkin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 02:48 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 27 2014 02:47 ThomasjServo wrote:On August 27 2014 02:45 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 27 2014 02:44 ThomasjServo wrote:On August 27 2014 02:42 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 27 2014 02:42 ThomasjServo wrote: Only Sith deal in absolutes Apollo, Jedi deal in contradiction. This makes me want to play KOTOR while watching the stream. MMO or just the older, RPG. On August 27 2014 02:43 Shellshock wrote:On August 27 2014 02:42 ThomasjServo wrote: Only Sith deal in absolutes Apollo, Jedi deal in contradiction. isnt it an absolute to say that Sith only deal in absolutes so really Jedis are sith? Just a typical Lucas-ism, he didn't think about a lot of stuff, like how 3PO and R2 don't recognize Tatooine at all. KOTOR, mate, not TOR. In my head, what you call TOR, I call KOTOR. /shrug. You should though, fun game. I thought that it was always just called TOR. My bad, in that case. But the old Bioware RPG where you play as a dude and have Jennifer Hale's voice as support. ^_^ Well you can play as a male or a female. But yeah, it's one of the best games of all time. And it is so incompatible with new PCs you have to play it windowed with no cutscenes, so theoretically you could play it while watching this...
I have the Steam versions, and it works just fine. :O
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So Welmu is alive in the end! that was some nice trickery
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That's more like it Welmu!
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This series had some of the best bad games I've seen.
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On August 27 2014 03:04 IntoTheheart wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 03:01 Larkin wrote:On August 27 2014 02:48 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 27 2014 02:47 ThomasjServo wrote:On August 27 2014 02:45 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 27 2014 02:44 ThomasjServo wrote:On August 27 2014 02:42 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 27 2014 02:42 ThomasjServo wrote: Only Sith deal in absolutes Apollo, Jedi deal in contradiction. This makes me want to play KOTOR while watching the stream. MMO or just the older, RPG. On August 27 2014 02:43 Shellshock wrote:On August 27 2014 02:42 ThomasjServo wrote: Only Sith deal in absolutes Apollo, Jedi deal in contradiction. isnt it an absolute to say that Sith only deal in absolutes so really Jedis are sith? Just a typical Lucas-ism, he didn't think about a lot of stuff, like how 3PO and R2 don't recognize Tatooine at all. KOTOR, mate, not TOR. In my head, what you call TOR, I call KOTOR. /shrug. You should though, fun game. I thought that it was always just called TOR. My bad, in that case. But the old Bioware RPG where you play as a dude and have Jennifer Hale's voice as support. ^_^ Well you can play as a male or a female. But yeah, it's one of the best games of all time. And it is so incompatible with new PCs you have to play it windowed with no cutscenes, so theoretically you could play it while watching this... I have the Steam versions, and it works just fine. :O
R-really? Without a bunch of fixes it CTDs on movies for me (and practically everyone else). Do you have a really old system?
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On August 27 2014 03:03 D-light wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 03:02 Luolis wrote:On August 27 2014 03:01 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On August 27 2014 03:00 Luolis wrote:On August 27 2014 02:59 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On August 27 2014 02:57 Luolis wrote:On August 27 2014 02:56 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On August 27 2014 02:51 Luolis wrote:On August 27 2014 02:40 Luolis wrote: yeah, ill just go kill myself, see you later... bye... Won't miss you whiner  How dare you? Im a Finn like you. Do you hate Naama as well? O_O Naama trains chuu chuu. Isn't that what you hate?  He does trains with every unit. Not just bio  4port banshee <3 Dont forget the TvP "build every unit on 3-bases and then pull scvs"-allin :D 1base battlecruiser never forget.
Before the #RottiBuilds, there were people like Naama and Brat_OK, doing the Biscuit Builds.
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Welmu is back! one of the top 5 foreigners (Madals Best Foreigner Poll puts Welmu currently at 6th best foreigner in the world) not gonig to lose again to a "regular" foreigner o yea
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On August 27 2014 03:06 Circumstance wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 03:03 D-light wrote:On August 27 2014 03:02 Luolis wrote:On August 27 2014 03:01 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On August 27 2014 03:00 Luolis wrote:On August 27 2014 02:59 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On August 27 2014 02:57 Luolis wrote:On August 27 2014 02:56 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On August 27 2014 02:51 Luolis wrote:On August 27 2014 02:40 Luolis wrote: yeah, ill just go kill myself, see you later... bye... Won't miss you whiner  How dare you? Im a Finn like you. Do you hate Naama as well? O_O Naama trains chuu chuu. Isn't that what you hate?  He does trains with every unit. Not just bio  4port banshee <3 Dont forget the TvP "build every unit on 3-bases and then pull scvs"-allin :D 1base battlecruiser never forget. Before the #RottiBuilds, there were people like Naama and Brat_OK, doing the Biscuit Builds. White-Ra?
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On August 27 2014 03:06 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: #tori ? Half way there.
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Come on TLO, beat uThermal! And I hope Welmu can come back and take the final match.
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On August 27 2014 03:07 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 03:06 Circumstance wrote:On August 27 2014 03:03 D-light wrote:On August 27 2014 03:02 Luolis wrote:On August 27 2014 03:01 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On August 27 2014 03:00 Luolis wrote:On August 27 2014 02:59 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On August 27 2014 02:57 Luolis wrote:On August 27 2014 02:56 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On August 27 2014 02:51 Luolis wrote: [quote] bye... Won't miss you whiner  How dare you? Im a Finn like you. Do you hate Naama as well? O_O Naama trains chuu chuu. Isn't that what you hate?  He does trains with every unit. Not just bio  4port banshee <3 Dont forget the TvP "build every unit on 3-bases and then pull scvs"-allin :D 1base battlecruiser never forget. Before the #RottiBuilds, there were people like Naama and Brat_OK, doing the Biscuit Builds. White-Ra?
White-Ra was a class all his own.
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Work does not want me in LRs today. Internet keeps going wonky.
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Did TLO just lose 2 drones to a reaper?
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Polt Viking into Cloak? Those crazy Dutch.
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On August 27 2014 03:16 Circumstance wrote: Polt Viking into Cloak? Those crazy Dutch. Just look at their shoes and you know they are nuts.
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I'm not certain what that was supposed to beat.
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On August 27 2014 03:18 stuchiu wrote: I'm not certain what that was supposed to beat. It was supposed to beat TLO...
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This seemed like one of those "I didn't know I was all-in" games - they happen surprisingly often.
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On August 27 2014 03:18 stuchiu wrote: I'm not certain what that was supposed to beat. A very greedy one. Not that one.
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Oh my god, Kaelaris looks so different clean shaven.
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On August 27 2014 03:19 Circumstance wrote: This seemed like one of those "I didn't know I was all-in" games - they happen surprisingly often. Especially in my ladder games.
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Fukking french people
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Pardon my French. German. Keyboard.
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On August 27 2014 03:22 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:Fukking french people  Toujours en retard.
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someone trying to pull a soulkey vs parting
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inb4 the replay resumes with the wrong Game Speed.
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why is changing the games speed in game even an option? who has ever used that?
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Apollo, starting color in chess is SO important. It's a completely differnet thing.
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On August 27 2014 03:23 Circumstance wrote: inb4 the replay resumes with the wrong Game Speed. hahahaahh
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Can Germans verify this assertion by Apollo
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That race in Adventure Time is strange by Adventure Time standards.
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On August 27 2014 03:25 y0su wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 03:23 Circumstance wrote: inb4 the replay resumes with the wrong Game Speed. hahahaahh
Replays save all information. Even skins etc ;-)! So ofcourse it does resume with the wrong speed
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Why are Apollo and Kaelaris trying to avoid swearing? Is it part of the new contract, or have they all been about that?
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On August 27 2014 03:26 IntoTheheart wrote: Why are Apollo and Kaelaris trying to avoid swearing? Is it part of the new contract, or have they all been about that? You don't tend to hear too much of it on WCS broadcasts.
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On August 27 2014 03:26 IntoTheheart wrote: Why are Apollo and Kaelaris trying to avoid swearing? Is it part of the new contract, or have they all been about that? More professional I suppose.
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On August 27 2014 03:26 IntoTheheart wrote: Why are Apollo and Kaelaris trying to avoid swearing? Is it part of the new contract, or have they all been about that?
I don't think WCS has ever been keen on casual cursing
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TL-UH-OH!
That was... awful.
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Uprooting Spines in this situation is a very risky venture with their rooting time.
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I expected some creative 2rax hold by TLO.
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bunker build time increased by 5 seconds
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impossible to hold it. only possible with other buildorder.
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Wow uThermal 2-0'd Welmu? How'd that happen?
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On August 27 2014 03:29 KingofdaHipHop wrote: Wow uThermal 2-0'd Welmu? How'd that happen? Welmu was not at the top of his game
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This is so weird, i feel like recently every single Zerg fails to defend 2 rax, even if they scout it. - What changed compared to WoL? I think i remember most zergs crushing 2 rax in the GGlord era and it only worked sometimes, why? o.o
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Even with the proxies that far away it's hard to hold with hatch first. 2 rax should be more common than it is, even tho it seems to win more times than not when actually used.
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On August 27 2014 03:28 Weavel wrote: I expected some creative 2rax hold by TLO. That g g was quite creative though
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On August 27 2014 03:29 KingofdaHipHop wrote: Wow uThermal 2-0'd Welmu? How'd that happen? Scv pulls and emps into clumbed up protoss armu.
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On August 27 2014 03:30 Zheryn wrote: Even with the proxies that far away it's hard to hold with hatch first. 2 rax should be more common than it is, even tho it seems to win more times than not when actually used. Give us rax before supply depot again, I'm sure you'll see more of it.
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
2 rax = 300 minerals 300 minerals = 6 marines 6 marines = 3/4 of a medivac full 3/4 of a medivac full = 1/4 of a medivac empty 1/4 of a medivac = 1 hellion 1 hellion = 100 minerals 100 minerals = 1/4 of a CC CC = 400 minerals which is 100 times 4 add 1 salty zerg who just got 2 raxed to that 4 and you got 5 stars in the recommended game poll
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On August 27 2014 03:28 ThomasjServo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 03:26 IntoTheheart wrote: Why are Apollo and Kaelaris trying to avoid swearing? Is it part of the new contract, or have they all been about that? You don't tend to hear too much of it on WCS broadcasts. We need 2GD and Incontrol to cast WCS, preferably while intoxicated. We'd get some fireworks going, I can more or less guarantee it.
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As most SC2 casters they really haven't got a clue about chess :-).
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This Chess conversation is paiinnnnfulllll.
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On August 27 2014 03:32 Squat wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 03:28 ThomasjServo wrote:On August 27 2014 03:26 IntoTheheart wrote: Why are Apollo and Kaelaris trying to avoid swearing? Is it part of the new contract, or have they all been about that? You don't tend to hear too much of it on WCS broadcasts. We need 2GD and Incontrol to cast WCS, preferably while intoxicated. We'd get some fireworks going, I can more or less guarantee it.
Give me drunk tricast of Rotti/Tod/Nathanias
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good thing I got that chess context a few seconds after turning the stream back on.
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Rofl... Apollo and Kaelaris dont' know a thing about Chess.
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....apparently apollo and kaelaris don't play much chess!
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On August 27 2014 03:30 Quateras wrote: This is so weird, i feel like recently every single Zerg fails to defend 2 rax, even if they scout it. - What changed compared to WoL? I think i remember most zergs crushing 2 rax in the GGlord era and it only worked sometimes, why? o.o
I think it's the meta. Zergs seem to absolutely refuse to scout proxy locations or go pool first in 2 player maps. It's as if Zergs expect Terrans to just not be that aggressive early on and then ending up dying to it.
Similarly to Proxy Oracle in TvP, the mere fact it exists means it has to be respected and taken into account. Otherwise Terran is just coinflipping whether or not Protoss is doing it. As such, Terran builds have evolved to either have enough Marines in the mineral line, or get a Turret or Mine.
I think Zerg needs to make a similar adaption in their builds and start taking into account the threat of a 2rax is real.
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Oh god this is painful to listen to...
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White plays first, Apollo!
In case he's reading TL.
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The last Go player that played SC2 was Darkforce
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It's just first move advantage right? I'm a chess noob.. but white goes first right?
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I assume it was Graham bailing them out there.
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On August 27 2014 03:34 stuchiu wrote: The last Go player that played SC2 was Darkforce The Godfather of all creep spread.
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On August 27 2014 03:34 stuchiu wrote: The last Go player that played SC2 was Darkforce
I miss Darkforce
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On August 27 2014 03:34 Jono7272 wrote: It's just first move advantage right? I'm a chess noob.. but white goes first right? Correct. Because of the first-move advantage White scores 55%, Black 45%.
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Lorning
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On August 27 2014 03:35 RHoudini wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 03:34 Jono7272 wrote: It's just first move advantage right? I'm a chess noob.. but white goes first right? Correct. Because of the first-move advantage White scores 55%, Black 45%. More imbalanced than SC2
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On August 27 2014 03:34 Jono7272 wrote: It's just first move advantage right? I'm a chess noob.. but white goes first right? Yes. There's also some symmetry with respect to the openings that is often disputed as well.
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On August 27 2014 03:35 Lorning wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 03:35 RHoudini wrote:On August 27 2014 03:34 Jono7272 wrote: It's just first move advantage right? I'm a chess noob.. but white goes first right? Correct. Because of the first-move advantage White scores 55%, Black 45%. More imbalanced than SC2 Also why in match settings each player plays each side the same amount of times.
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Creative opening indeed
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the gas is so late that mining after speed means nothing, apollo
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On August 27 2014 03:35 Lorning wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 03:35 RHoudini wrote:On August 27 2014 03:34 Jono7272 wrote: It's just first move advantage right? I'm a chess noob.. but white goes first right? Correct. Because of the first-move advantage White scores 55%, Black 45%. More imbalanced than SC2 Yes, it's quite a big deal in chess. At the very top level Black wins are not very common.
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On August 27 2014 03:34 Jono7272 wrote: It's just first move advantage right? I'm a chess noob.. but white goes first right? yes white first and ~54-46 winratio for white theoretically. But it is balanced because they play bo12 (both play 6x white and black).
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I think more Zergs should use TRUE's 9 Queen build
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the late upgrades from hellbat openings are a huge problem for terran
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On August 27 2014 03:38 Paljas wrote: I think more Zergs should use TRUE's 9 Queen build Yeah queens are awesome, it doesn't even have to be 9 but like more queens people.
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uThermal upgrades are awfully late. he really is behind right now
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On August 27 2014 03:40 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 03:38 Paljas wrote: I think more Zergs should use TRUE's 9 Queen build Yeah queens are awesome, it doesn't even have to be 9 but like more queens people. Thinking about it, that ranged Queen attack probably changed the game more than any other single patch I can think of.
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On August 27 2014 03:38 Dingodile wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 03:34 Jono7272 wrote: It's just first move advantage right? I'm a chess noob.. but white goes first right? yes white first and ~54-46 winratio for white theoretically. But it is balanced because they play bo12 (both play 6x white and black).
I think I remember the commentators during the World Chess Championship saying that bo12 was too variable.
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13 minute stim pack, combat shields and +1 not ready...
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+ Show Spoiler +On August 27 2014 03:35 RHoudini wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 03:34 Jono7272 wrote: It's just first move advantage right? I'm a chess noob.. but white goes first right? Correct. Because of the first-move advantage White scores 55%, Black 45%. On August 27 2014 03:35 IntoTheheart wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 03:34 Jono7272 wrote: It's just first move advantage right? I'm a chess noob.. but white goes first right? Yes. There's also some symmetry with respect to the openings that is often disputed as well. On August 27 2014 03:38 Dingodile wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 03:34 Jono7272 wrote: It's just first move advantage right? I'm a chess noob.. but white goes first right? yes white first and ~54-46 winratio for white theoretically. But it is balanced because they play bo12 (both play 6x white and black). Ah okay cool, thanks guys, thought so! :D
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Is the fourth hatch misplaced?
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On August 27 2014 03:41 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 03:38 Dingodile wrote:On August 27 2014 03:34 Jono7272 wrote: It's just first move advantage right? I'm a chess noob.. but white goes first right? yes white first and ~54-46 winratio for white theoretically. But it is balanced because they play bo12 (both play 6x white and black). I think I remember the commentators during the World Chess Championship saying that bo12 was too variable. statistically speaking i think any series length that doesn't last for days is probably too variable in any sport
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On August 27 2014 03:42 brickrd wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 03:41 stuchiu wrote:On August 27 2014 03:38 Dingodile wrote:On August 27 2014 03:34 Jono7272 wrote: It's just first move advantage right? I'm a chess noob.. but white goes first right? yes white first and ~54-46 winratio for white theoretically. But it is balanced because they play bo12 (both play 6x white and black). I think I remember the commentators during the World Chess Championship saying that bo12 was too variable. statistically speaking i think any series length that doesn't last for days is probably too variable in any sport A 12 game chess match takes 14 to 18 days...
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Pure Marine is not gonna cut it uThermal...
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On August 27 2014 03:42 brickrd wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 03:41 stuchiu wrote:On August 27 2014 03:38 Dingodile wrote:On August 27 2014 03:34 Jono7272 wrote: It's just first move advantage right? I'm a chess noob.. but white goes first right? yes white first and ~54-46 winratio for white theoretically. But it is balanced because they play bo12 (both play 6x white and black). I think I remember the commentators during the World Chess Championship saying that bo12 was too variable. statistically speaking i think any series length that doesn't last for days is probably too variable in any sport If we truly wanted to know who was the best SC2 player, we'd have the top 10ish prepare for about six months, and then play Bo75 or something against each other. Luck, happenstance and daily form will always be huge factors when the fate of a player is decided in 2-4 games.
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Why did Uthermal sack his factory? Doesn't he need mines?
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uThermal needs widow mines no idea why he isnt building them
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United States97276 Posts
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Chess, the game where South Korea only has ONE Grandmaster
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why does any high level zerg let banelings do that thing where they all wrap around one marauder as a bio force is shooting them
i dont understand
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On August 27 2014 03:42 brickrd wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 03:41 stuchiu wrote:On August 27 2014 03:38 Dingodile wrote:On August 27 2014 03:34 Jono7272 wrote: It's just first move advantage right? I'm a chess noob.. but white goes first right? yes white first and ~54-46 winratio for white theoretically. But it is balanced because they play bo12 (both play 6x white and black). I think I remember the commentators during the World Chess Championship saying that bo12 was too variable. statistically speaking i think any series length that doesn't last for days is probably too variable in any sport
Not necessarily. I'd say that male tennis despite the relatively short series is one of the least variable sports almost to an oppressive level. Just look at how heavily Federer Nadal and Djokovic have dominated the scene.
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Question is: are scv pulls going to work again?
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TLO almost threw that game there, phew.
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TLOooooooooooo happy
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Can't fight Zerg without splash.
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Impressive performance by TLO, well done little one!
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TLO! Good job
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uThermal can make my liquibet 2/2 with just 2 more scv pulls
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On August 27 2014 03:44 Squat wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 03:42 brickrd wrote:On August 27 2014 03:41 stuchiu wrote:On August 27 2014 03:38 Dingodile wrote:On August 27 2014 03:34 Jono7272 wrote: It's just first move advantage right? I'm a chess noob.. but white goes first right? yes white first and ~54-46 winratio for white theoretically. But it is balanced because they play bo12 (both play 6x white and black). I think I remember the commentators during the World Chess Championship saying that bo12 was too variable. statistically speaking i think any series length that doesn't last for days is probably too variable in any sport If we truly wanted to know who was the best SC2 player, we'd have the top 10ish prepare for about six months, and then play Bo75 or something against each other. Luck, happenstance and daily form will always be huge factors when the fate of a player is decided in 2-4 games. And bo75 should be separated to several days incase players have bad day
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On August 27 2014 03:47 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: Question is: are scv pulls going to work again? Only if Welmu likes to clump up again and help the emps.
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OK let's see if Welmu can deal with those scv all-ins (or if uThermal actually can do something else, which would please me).
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On August 27 2014 03:49 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 03:44 Squat wrote:On August 27 2014 03:42 brickrd wrote:On August 27 2014 03:41 stuchiu wrote:On August 27 2014 03:38 Dingodile wrote:On August 27 2014 03:34 Jono7272 wrote: It's just first move advantage right? I'm a chess noob.. but white goes first right? yes white first and ~54-46 winratio for white theoretically. But it is balanced because they play bo12 (both play 6x white and black). I think I remember the commentators during the World Chess Championship saying that bo12 was too variable. statistically speaking i think any series length that doesn't last for days is probably too variable in any sport If we truly wanted to know who was the best SC2 player, we'd have the top 10ish prepare for about six months, and then play Bo75 or something against each other. Luck, happenstance and daily form will always be huge factors when the fate of a player is decided in 2-4 games. And bo75 should be separated to several days incase players have bad day
Well it would kind of have to be.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
could someone confirm that confirmation?
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On August 27 2014 03:52 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 03:49 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On August 27 2014 03:44 Squat wrote:On August 27 2014 03:42 brickrd wrote:On August 27 2014 03:41 stuchiu wrote:On August 27 2014 03:38 Dingodile wrote:On August 27 2014 03:34 Jono7272 wrote: It's just first move advantage right? I'm a chess noob.. but white goes first right? yes white first and ~54-46 winratio for white theoretically. But it is balanced because they play bo12 (both play 6x white and black). I think I remember the commentators during the World Chess Championship saying that bo12 was too variable. statistically speaking i think any series length that doesn't last for days is probably too variable in any sport If we truly wanted to know who was the best SC2 player, we'd have the top 10ish prepare for about six months, and then play Bo75 or something against each other. Luck, happenstance and daily form will always be huge factors when the fate of a player is decided in 2-4 games. And bo75 should be separated to several days incase players have bad day Well it would kind of have to be.
I feel super sorry for the casters though.
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havent watched WCS EU in a while do they not do player interviews anymore after they advance? Like for TLO now?
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On August 27 2014 03:49 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 03:44 Squat wrote:On August 27 2014 03:42 brickrd wrote:On August 27 2014 03:41 stuchiu wrote:On August 27 2014 03:38 Dingodile wrote:On August 27 2014 03:34 Jono7272 wrote: It's just first move advantage right? I'm a chess noob.. but white goes first right? yes white first and ~54-46 winratio for white theoretically. But it is balanced because they play bo12 (both play 6x white and black). I think I remember the commentators during the World Chess Championship saying that bo12 was too variable. statistically speaking i think any series length that doesn't last for days is probably too variable in any sport If we truly wanted to know who was the best SC2 player, we'd have the top 10ish prepare for about six months, and then play Bo75 or something against each other. Luck, happenstance and daily form will always be huge factors when the fate of a player is decided in 2-4 games. And bo75 should be separated to several days incase players have bad day yea i think people forget sometimes that sports standings and playoffs are never meant to be "fair," its just entertainment/contest of endurance really with skill just giving you a generally higher chance of succeeding
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On August 27 2014 03:52 stuchiu wrote: could someone confirm that confirmation?
confirming your confirmation, confirmed
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On August 27 2014 03:52 stuchiu wrote: could someone confirm that confirmation? CONFIRMED
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On August 27 2014 03:49 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 03:44 Squat wrote:On August 27 2014 03:42 brickrd wrote:On August 27 2014 03:41 stuchiu wrote:On August 27 2014 03:38 Dingodile wrote:On August 27 2014 03:34 Jono7272 wrote: It's just first move advantage right? I'm a chess noob.. but white goes first right? yes white first and ~54-46 winratio for white theoretically. But it is balanced because they play bo12 (both play 6x white and black). I think I remember the commentators during the World Chess Championship saying that bo12 was too variable. statistically speaking i think any series length that doesn't last for days is probably too variable in any sport If we truly wanted to know who was the best SC2 player, we'd have the top 10ish prepare for about six months, and then play Bo75 or something against each other. Luck, happenstance and daily form will always be huge factors when the fate of a player is decided in 2-4 games. And bo75 should be separated to several days incase players have bad day And to adapt their builds. That's what happens in chess matches, between rounds players try to find holes in the openings of their opponents. Becomes more and more difficult, because everybody is using chess engines that are stronger than the human WC.
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The best formula would be a best of 30ish with each day 10 games being played. Would be in fact quite similar to old chess world championships matches like Karpov - Kasparov.
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TLO CONFIRMED to be very Creative™
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I'm so happy for TLO! Congrats to Liquid!
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On August 27 2014 03:53 brickrd wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 03:49 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On August 27 2014 03:44 Squat wrote:On August 27 2014 03:42 brickrd wrote:On August 27 2014 03:41 stuchiu wrote:On August 27 2014 03:38 Dingodile wrote:On August 27 2014 03:34 Jono7272 wrote: It's just first move advantage right? I'm a chess noob.. but white goes first right? yes white first and ~54-46 winratio for white theoretically. But it is balanced because they play bo12 (both play 6x white and black). I think I remember the commentators during the World Chess Championship saying that bo12 was too variable. statistically speaking i think any series length that doesn't last for days is probably too variable in any sport If we truly wanted to know who was the best SC2 player, we'd have the top 10ish prepare for about six months, and then play Bo75 or something against each other. Luck, happenstance and daily form will always be huge factors when the fate of a player is decided in 2-4 games. And bo75 should be separated to several days incase players have bad day yea i think people forget sometimes that sports standings and playoffs are never meant to be "fair," its just entertainment/contest of endurance really with skill just giving you a generally higher chance of succeeding
Yeah. Most sports' formats aren't in any way optimal to get a fair test of skill. They have an excessively long season to allow the home crowds to see their team play followed by a short playoff to crown a winner.
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On August 27 2014 03:54 [PkF] Wire wrote: The best formula would be a best of 30ish with each day 10 games being played. Would be in fact quite similar to old chess world championships matches like Karpov - Kasparov. You have no idea. The longest Karpov-Kasparov lasted over 5 months, from 10th September 1984 to 15th February 1985. It was abandoned after 48 games, Karpov's health had deteriorated too much.
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uThermal's ingame ID used to be Traditional, iirc
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Like the Onion headline for the world cup where they said the pronunciation book for the Dutch team was 2000 pages long.
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On August 27 2014 03:57 RHoudini wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 03:54 [PkF] Wire wrote: The best formula would be a best of 30ish with each day 10 games being played. Would be in fact quite similar to old chess world championships matches like Karpov - Kasparov. You have no idea. The longest Karpov-Kasparov lasted over 5 months, from 10th September 1984 to 15th February 1985. It was abandoned after 48 games, Karpov's health had deteriorated too much.
I actually had an idea being a fair amateur chess player, but I don't think such long matches would even be entertaining. So I preferred a best of 30 to something crazy like they did at the time. The analogue would probably be a BO500 and barely make any sense.
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Thats pretty good by Apollo, thats pretty close to how it sounds.
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NETHERLANDS ARE GOING TO GET REKT
BLUEWHITE > ORANGE
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More single port into SCV pulls woop woop.
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Lets hear it for the booooys
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On August 27 2014 04:01 Luolis wrote: SUOMI TORI PERKELE! munat (I couldn't think of any real Finnish phrases I wanted to say)
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Welmu won't lose 3:rd time to the same strategy.
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Welmu workers are bloodthirsty.
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On August 27 2014 04:02 ThomasjServo wrote:munat (I couldn't think of any real Finnish phrases I wanted to say) Perkele? SISU? SAUNA?
SAUNAA?
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On August 27 2014 04:03 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 04:02 ThomasjServo wrote:On August 27 2014 04:01 Luolis wrote: SUOMI TORI PERKELE! munat (I couldn't think of any real Finnish phrases I wanted to say) Perkele? SISU? SAUNA? SAUNAA? Mielestäni koirat ovat näppärä
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mmh, i would have preferd some gates before the robo
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That was a sexy defense from Welmu.
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nice focus on the medivacs
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Great defence. I paniced for a while...
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Cool build. Impeccable hold with the medivacs sniped.
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On August 27 2014 04:06 Kasaraki wrote: Stellar defense
Thermal overextending with that medivac right away kind of screwed the attack
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I think it was hard to pull off a build that made less sense.
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WELMUUU! ELFI BLESSING BESTEST!
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On August 27 2014 04:04 ThomasjServo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 04:03 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On August 27 2014 04:02 ThomasjServo wrote:On August 27 2014 04:01 Luolis wrote: SUOMI TORI PERKELE! munat (I couldn't think of any real Finnish phrases I wanted to say) Perkele? SISU? SAUNA? SAUNAA? Mielestäni koirat ovat näppärä lol
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i feel like uThermals buidl would have worked vs Zerg.
Good defens!
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On August 27 2014 04:07 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 04:04 ThomasjServo wrote:On August 27 2014 04:03 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On August 27 2014 04:02 ThomasjServo wrote:On August 27 2014 04:01 Luolis wrote: SUOMI TORI PERKELE! munat (I couldn't think of any real Finnish phrases I wanted to say) Perkele? SISU? SAUNA? SAUNAA? Mielestäni koirat ovat näppärä  lol Was a bit disappointed when I turned it back around and google translated nifty to clever.
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Uthermal's hellbat drops aren't getting anything done.
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Welmu can just push and win the game
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Did Welmu decide to start playing?
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SCV BBQ., with lazers, Hank Hill would disapprove.
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Barely gets the nexus but loses the game.
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On August 27 2014 04:10 ThomasjServo wrote: Did Welmu decide to start playing?
He parried a 1base Terran play pretty well not like he had to do too much to win the game from there.
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It was more uThermal playing really weird... Stalkers + overcharge are such a textbook counter to those hellbat pushes if you're not being too greedy.
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On August 27 2014 04:12 Paljas wrote: grow some balls Welmus He wants to make sure he wins it and not throw it again.
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On August 27 2014 04:13 D-light wrote:He wants to make sure he wins it and not throw it again. I know, hence my comment
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Dat anticlimactic ending haha c'mon Uthermal you got this
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Sees that, is like...NOPE.
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lol he doesn't want to extend that shit any longer.
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Okay Welmu, now just hold the SCV pull and get to blizzcon, by wininng wcs eu :3
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Aww that cockblock gg timing. I wanted to see that get smashed
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On August 27 2014 04:14 KingofdaHipHop wrote: lol he doesn't want to extend that shit any longer. Extend it by like 10 seconds till his army is no more.
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That GG timing. One more Welmuuu!
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uThermal probably just checked if Welmu was clumping up his army for EMPs again
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Welmu, please just hold this scv-pull <3
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I am still waiting for a Protoss to build an extra pylon in his main base and then win the game with proxy oracles next to his original 3rd pylon
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No forge style. Do it up Welmu.
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Ooh I like this quick transition.
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Welmu REALLY not wanting to die to an scv pull like ever again.
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uThermal didn't build mines previously so templar tech seems perfect.
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Uh oh, uThermal has been fooled, and getting vikings.
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Holy shit, Welmu metagaming uthermal hard.
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uThermal has the upper hand rn.
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It's getting strange and exciting at the same time.
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Not sure why Welmu engaged there. The nexus was dead. He did get the medivacs however.
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Looks good for Welmu
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Wow Welmu is playing this really well.
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What is that Orbital doing
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Despite Welmu's advantage he needs to be very careful, since zealot heavy armies are so glass cannon due to widow mines.
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That was still better than most of my drops.
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WEEELMUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
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Was he fighting with landed vikings while the colossus was still alive?
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WELMUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
FROM 0-3 TO 4-3!!!!!!!!!!!
COMEBACK PERKELE
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Welmu played this game very well, glad to see him back in the Round of 16!
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On August 27 2014 04:34 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Was he fighting with landed vikings while the colossus was still alive?
Ground Viking hype taken too far.
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TORILLE! Great game by Welmu!
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3 losses first then 4 wins
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Russian Federation232 Posts
that was a terrible game from both sides
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On August 27 2014 04:34 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Was he fighting with landed vikings while the colossus was still alive?
Yeah. Maybe not the best decision. Landed vikings are only good in TvT.
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No werrrrrlmu interview? WUT?
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On August 27 2014 04:36 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: No werrrrrlmu interview? WUT? No interviews period.
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On August 27 2014 04:36 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: No werrrrrlmu interview? WUT? *Interrrrrrrrview.
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On August 27 2014 04:35 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 04:34 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Was he fighting with landed vikings while the colossus was still alive? Yeah. Maybe not the best decision. Landed vikings are only good in TvT.
They're actually okay against zealots but yeah, nearly always better to keep them alive.
Not the highest standard of games today, but fun nonetheless.
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2/2 of my liquibets. Good job, guys!
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Expected players advanced. Two clear favorites, Welmu's game was a bit shaky for his standards, but was enough to overcome.
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pretty strong mindset by welmu going 0:3 into 4:3 good job, didn't see the games though except for livezerg vs welmu game one.
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