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On August 21 2014 08:17 Paljas wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 07:23 Shellshock wrote:
Gom actually said yesterday that the group is going to be Solar, Avenge, Flash, and Flash dude needs two spots to have a chance to advance
if you followed flash the last couple of weeks (wins over soo, maru, soulkey, parting in PL finals destroyed) in IEM qualis, Kespa cup qualies and so on), mostly 2-0, I guess you are refering to his former attempts to Code S.
But then again, EVERY Terran would need 2 slots to have a chance to advance. What was it? 2 or 3 Terran in RO 16 the last 2 rounds or so?
Dont fool yourself, when the game is balanced (patch brought some good changes, still lategame vs toss is incredibly hard for terran), all the players that actually have Code S Level Skills but had UP race so far will push out those, who don't have those needed skills and held the spot warm because of OP Race, and therefore going to Code A or even B.
No balance whine intended, but this is the way balance works throughout leagues.
That being said, if Flash fails today, I'd be really disappointed after the last 10 games I saw from him (you gotta check out those IEM and Kespa Cup games!). A standard macro game -> he will definately advance. But hey, cheeses and allins did already produce so many upsets, could happen today
so far, this is what Flash thinks about all the others in his group, considering the RO16
http://37.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_malvvbwoHl1qasxjlo8_250.gif
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On August 21 2014 10:39 Less_Du_Et wrote:
I suspect some deviously cheesy builds have been prepared to snipe Flash
STOP IT!!!!
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On August 21 2014 14:10 Rollora wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 10:39 Less_Du_Et wrote:
I suspect some deviously cheesy builds have been prepared to snipe Flash STOP IT!!!!
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On August 21 2014 14:15 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 14:10 Rollora wrote:On August 21 2014 10:39 Less_Du_Et wrote:
I suspect some deviously cheesy builds have been prepared to snipe Flash STOP IT!!!! + Show Spoiler +
Followed up with:
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On August 21 2014 14:21 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 14:15 stuchiu wrote:On August 21 2014 14:10 Rollora wrote:On August 21 2014 10:39 Less_Du_Et wrote:
I suspect some deviously cheesy builds have been prepared to snipe Flash STOP IT!!!! + Show Spoiler + Followed up with:
Coach Swagger, plz
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flash and solar pls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Flashuuuu ahhhhhh Flashuuuuu
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No preview?
TL writers you lazy lot, I'll give you a quick preview:
Tonight is the last group of code S, the best SC2 tournament of the entire world.
We are all disappointed because  PartinG made it to the RO16 instead of the greatest Protoss on earth behind $O$, that is, Dear. We all know that PartinG slot is a wasted slot because he suck in code S, but whatever. Still, we all zergs are happy that  TRUE made it in the First place sending the  TY farce to code A.
In group H, we got one crappy toss in the name of Avenge (there is a lot of Protoss newcomers and I am too lazy to develop an essay of a Startale betrayer - just like you PartinG!!!!!!), and two zergs. The First one is Dark, an underrated Zerg who is a ZvZ Machine. But what about his TvZ? Last season he dispatched Another Terran farce in the name of Bbyong (he won just by cheesing, and by cheesing I Mean mech, not that silly gangnam Cheese on Habitation Station), and later he got obliterated by Maru, though he somehow managed to take a game off of him (that last sentence is correct, right? Well, my english is not perfect, just like that silly swedens who write in this website). Seems like Dark dispatch lesser Terran opponents, but against the best ones he struggles. Same thing applies for him at PvZ. Which means he will make it, at least, to the final match. What happens in that match, however, is purely gambling.
Speaking about best Terrans, in this group there is Flash. Hyped to the absurd, this guy is a BW legend, but somehow he sucks at SC2 (well, he actually not sucks, but considering the high expectations that everybody places upon him...). He's never made it past RO16 and this season, he is coming back from code B (HAHA Sniper !!!!). So, we can say that Flash is a Code S n00b. However, the guy has always shined in Proleague, and last finals he kicked the hell out of PartinG and all the SKTT1 roster, LITERALLY SPEAKING :D
I don't know, but for me, the pressure and the high expectations have gotten the best of Flash. He just simply can't live up to his legend. To put it in this way: passing the RO32 is not an accomplishment for Flash, it's simply his duty. So, Flash MUST make it to the RO16. It's too much pressure for someone who hasn't gained a single premiere tournament in SC2. We should be comparing Flash with fellas like KeeN, not guys like INnoVation. Because of this, I don't know if Flash will pass this group. It all depends on who is sitting on his booth tonight. If the Proleague Flash appears, he will pass to the RO16. If the GSL Flash appears tonight, he will, at least, make it to the final match.
The favourite in this group, however, is the Samsung Zerg Solar. The guy who defeated Stephano. Why is he the favourite? Because he has got deep runs in premiere international tournaments of recent date. GSL 2 2014, IEM Shenzen, RBBG Global (I think this is actually a major one, but idk...), et cetera. And another factor is that he will face Avenge in his first match, so he got his free ticket to the winners match. There, he will likely face Flash, and considering the random nature of that player, contrasting with Solar's own consistence, makes the latter the favourite to top the group. Unless the stars align and Flash win...
And there is the problem of the final match. There is the following options: Dark vs Solar or Dark vs Flash. If it is a TvZ, I think Flash will dispatch Dark, just because Dark is SKTT1. As they say in my country, Flash "ganará sólo con la camiseta" (google translate pls), unless something weird happens. However, if the final match happens to be a ZvZ, the predictions are obscure. Solar is good at ZvZ, but we can not underestimate Dark's prowess in the matchup. Aligulac data is of little guidance here: ZvZ is a highly tecnical matchup and very APM-consuming and mechanically demanding. Non-literates (Protoss players) think it is luck, but it is not. A nanosecond of distraction can turn into a disaster, straight up losing the game. The one who is more focused will win the match. But I have to predict, so I'll give the slight edge to Solar.
So, my predictions:
Solar > Avenge
Flash > Dark
Solar > Flash
Dark > Avenge
Flash > Dark
Solar and Flash advance to the RO16
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GOGO DARK AND AVENGE
I love underdogs
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Let's go Solar and Flash.
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On August 21 2014 07:44 Dimagus wrote:
Haven't woken up so early in over a year, but for Flash I will. Save the universe!
Same here, hail Flash, hallowed be thy name
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Lack of FlaSh preview hype very disappointing.
I blame TL bias.
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Given FlaSh's current form, he should advance. For second place, I'll go with the hipster pick of Dark instead of Solar. Although, given the brackets, Solar is probably more likely, but you gotta do what you gotta do to be a hipster, right ?
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MAKE IT START ALREADY MR GSL !!!!
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On August 21 2014 15:58 Phredxor wrote:
Lack of FlaSh preview hype very disappointing.
I blame TL bias.
There you go:
+ Show Spoiler +No preview?
TL writers you lazy lot, I'll give you a quick preview:
Tonight is the last group of code S, the best SC2 tournament of the entire world.
We are all disappointed because (P)PartinG made it to the RO16 instead of the greatest Protoss on earth behind $O$, that is, (P)Dear. We all know that PartinG slot is a wasted slot because he suck in code S, but whatever. Still, we all zergs are happy that (Z)TRUE made it in the First place sending the (T)TY farce to code A.
In group H, we got one crappy toss in the name of (P)Avenge (there is a lot of Protoss newcomers and I am too lazy to develop an essay of a Startale betrayer - just like you PartinG!!!!!!), and two zergs. The First one is (Z)Dark, an underrated Zerg who is a ZvZ Machine. But what about his TvZ? Last season he dispatched Another Terran farce in the name of (T)Bbyong (he won just by cheesing, and by cheesing I Mean mech, not that silly gangnam Cheese on Habitation Station), and later he got obliterated by (T)Maru, though he somehow managed to take a game off of him (that last sentence is correct, right? Well, my english is not perfect, just like that silly swedens who write in this website). Seems like Dark dispatch lesser Terran opponents, but against the best ones he struggles. Same thing applies for him at PvZ. Which means he will make it, at least, to the final match. What happens in that match, however, is purely gambling.
Speaking about best Terrans, in this group there is (T)Flash. Hyped to the absurd, this guy is a BW legend, but somehow he sucks at SC2 (well, he actually not sucks, but considering the high expectations that everybody places upon him...). He's never made it past RO16 and this season, he is coming back from code B (HAHA (Z)Sniper !!!!). So, we can say that Flash is a Code S n00b. However, the guy has always shined in Proleague, and last finals he kicked the hell out of PartinG and all the SKTT1 roster, LITERALLY SPEAKING :D
I don't know, but for me, the pressure and the high expectations have gotten the best of Flash. He just simply can't live up to his legend. To put it in this way: passing the RO32 is not an accomplishment for Flash, it's simply his duty. So, Flash MUST make it to the RO16. It's too much pressure for someone who hasn't gained a single premiere tournament in SC2. We should be comparing Flash with fellas like (T)KeeN, not guys like (T)INnoVation. Because of this, I don't know if Flash will pass this group. It all depends on who is sitting on his booth tonight. If the Proleague Flash appears, he will pass to the RO16. If the GSL Flash appears tonight, he will, at least, make it to the final match.
The favourite in this group, however, is the Samsung Zerg (Z)Solar. The guy who defeated (Z)Stephano. Why is he the favourite? Because he has got deep runs in premiere international tournaments of recent date. GSL 2 2014, IEM Shenzen, RBBG Global (I think this is actually a major one, but idk...), et cetera. And another factor is that he will face Avenge in his first match, so he got his free ticket to the winners match. There, he will likely face Flash, and considering the random nature of that player, contrasting with Solar's own consistence, makes the latter the favourite to top the group. Unless the stars align and Flash win...
And there is the problem of the final match. There is the following options: Dark vs Solar or Dark vs Flash. If it is a TvZ, I think Flash will dispatch Dark, just because Dark is SKTT1. As they say in my country, Flash "ganará sólo con la camiseta" (google translate pls), unless something weird happens. However, if the final match happens to be a ZvZ, the predictions are obscure. Solar is good at ZvZ, but we can not underestimate Dark's prowess in the matchup. Aligulac data is of little guidance here: ZvZ is a highly tecnical matchup and very APM-consuming and mechanically demanding. Non-literates (Protoss players) think it is luck, but it is not. A nanosecond of distraction can turn into a disaster, straight up losing the game. The one who is more focused will win the match. But I have to predict, so I'll give the slight edge to Solar.
So, my predictions:
(Z)Solar > Avenge
(T)Flash > Dark
(Z)Solar > Flash
(Z)Dark > Avenge
(T)Flash > Dark
(Z)Solar and (T)Flash advance to the RO16
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