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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17727 Posts
August 09 2014 01:42 GMT
#21
On August 09 2014 10:40 sm1995 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2014 10:35 Die4Ever wrote:
On August 09 2014 10:32 sm1995 wrote:
On August 09 2014 10:24 travis wrote:
On August 09 2014 10:11 sm1995 wrote:
So does he compete who is on code a or s in korea?? Lol sacsri?? He is code b lol. And he won the foreign league. Trap?? He won the mlg and fall in code s ro 32 lol. Do you think mc can really compete with korean gsl guys?. Hydra?? Code a level but crush mc lol.


code a and code s are a different type of tournament structure than most foreign tournaments, where you get a lot of time to prepare for a specific match. so it really isn't even worth comparing

some top code S players have gone to foreign tournament and lost at tournaments anyways

Korean player sent only 3players at time. So they have not many chance. If runner compete with kespa 16:16 do they have a chance?? Even this situation hydra and solar beat every am and eu player?

Solar is Code S, and beat Innovation 3-0, then proceeded to lose to Taeja, Taeja is a WCS AM player.

Lol taeja 5-5 in SPL code 16, and run to am. And you are making a really small variable

Yea I never said he was the best player in the world, just countering you saying that Solar and Hydra would beat every WCS EU and WCS AM player. No one is arguing with you, yes GSL players are the best, that's why I wake up at 4am to watch GSL.
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sm1995
Profile Joined July 2014
Korea (South)69 Posts
August 09 2014 01:44 GMT
#22
Im sorry that im not good at english so i cant explain well but that is every korean' thought.
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17727 Posts
August 09 2014 01:46 GMT
#23
On August 09 2014 10:44 sm1995 wrote:
Im sorry that im not good at english so i cant explain well but that is every korean' thought.

I think most people here on team liquid agree that the current WCS Ranking doesn't show the best players in the world.
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Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
August 09 2014 01:55 GMT
#24
while i agree that the wcs system has its weaknesses, i believe that it's wrong to say that the players who "ran" from korea, wouldn't even make it to code a. jjakji made it to the ro8 in gsl code S before leaving korea to join WCS EU
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17727 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-09 02:06:26
August 09 2014 02:00 GMT
#25
On August 09 2014 10:55 Undead1993 wrote:
while i agree that the wcs system has its weaknesses, i believe that it's wrong to say that the players who "ran" from korea, wouldn't even make it to code a. jjakji made it to the ro8 in gsl code S before leaving korea to join WCS EU

Don't forget about First and Bomber too. Although First lately isn't as good as he was when he was in Code S. Pigbaby is a "runner" too, but he made it to Code S. San, Hyun, Polt (maybe not recently), and probably ForGG would all at least make Code A I think.
edit: also Trap may have lost in the ro32 but plenty of top players have done that once in a while, Trap also once made top 8 in Code S losing to his teammate and the champion Dear. And that was immediately after he lost in MLG to Polt and Naniwa I think.
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Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
August 09 2014 02:52 GMT
#26
KeSPA, or anyone else in Korea, simply isn't running Weekend Tournaments. They're a very different style and the "Code S/Code A" distinction doesn't mean as much in an weekend setting. This is repeatedly shown when a slate of Code S players shows up to tournament. (MC's ability to travel well is, possibly, his most underrated skill)

And the problem with the WCS system, in the main tournaments, is that it favors multi-day planning for Matches, within a specific Meta during the year. A player simply gets on a hot streak for a month and he's suddenly "best in the world!", yet he struggles the next time out. Yet, as we see time & again in weekend tournaments, those players that can prepare for 1 opponent best aren't necessarily as good as ones that just handle a huge set of matches better. Which is a different skill set, and both are different from the ProLeague skill set.

The WCS's points for outside tournaments, however, does force players that want to a run at Blizzcon to attend those tournaments. Which is, frankly, the point of the system. If it's a sport, the entire point is to put on a show. We want the better players attending tournaments. It makes things a whole lot better.

And we need more ShoutCrafts with the currently peaking Proleague players. DAMN was that a good tournament.
TokyoGirl
Profile Joined July 2014
Japan116 Posts
August 09 2014 02:57 GMT
#27
An example is DH moscow. No way does that deserve 750 points. If WCS finals each season are removed at least give GSL more points....
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
August 09 2014 02:57 GMT
#28
On August 09 2014 10:01 sm1995 wrote:
Really korean runner should comback to korea and compete in korea. They are code a in maximum in korea i think. Look at wcs ranking it is really disgusting. (In korea, players who run to wcs am or eu is called 'runner') mc is wcs rainking 1?? Hydra who beat mc 2-0 is even code a. They should really make runners back to korea. Thats every koreans idea.


It is moronic to not take advantage of the WCS system as it stands, rather than trying to slave away attempting to get noticed in a tournament that has far too few spots for the number of talented players in Korea.

"Hey yeah you should come back to Korea and play in Code A where you earn less money". Why? That is the attitude of an amateur. A professional gamer will maximize his chances of making prizemoney during his career, if he is able to.
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TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
August 09 2014 03:29 GMT
#29
Anyone want to talk Red Bull day 2?
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Foreverkul
Profile Joined March 2014
United States1649 Posts
August 09 2014 03:32 GMT
#30
Wow, Polt is going to be coming right into this day from Destiny I where he has a Best of 5 against Innovation o_O
CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
August 09 2014 03:49 GMT
#31
I like starcraft.

I am only praying that a terran can survive somehow.
CJ forever (-_-(-_-(-_-(-_-)-_-)-_-)-_-)
imrusty269
Profile Joined January 2014
United States1404 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-09 04:26:47
August 09 2014 04:23 GMT
#32
There will be 2 TvZ and the rest of the tournaments will be ZvZ. Hopefully Polt can win at least one TvZ.
Bbyong | MMA | Polt | Dream | Maru | Mvp
asongdotnet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States1060 Posts
August 09 2014 07:03 GMT
#33
On August 09 2014 12:32 Foreverkul wrote:
Wow, Polt is going to be coming right into this day from Destiny I where he has a Best of 5 against Innovation o_O


Polt is actually playing Apocalypse but nonetheless he'll have to get up earlier than his RBBG competitors to play
asongdotnet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States1060 Posts
August 09 2014 07:12 GMT
#34
MMA picks first... who should he pick to not get eliminated? I would pick Hydra if I was MMA. I think of all the zergs left, Hydra probably has the weakest ZvT?
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
August 09 2014 08:23 GMT
#35
Survive. Terrans!
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
IndoKoreanMuslim
Profile Joined November 2013
United States100 Posts
August 09 2014 13:55 GMT
#36
On August 09 2014 16:12 asongdotnet wrote:
MMA picks first... who should he pick to not get eliminated? I would pick Hydra if I was MMA. I think of all the zergs left, Hydra probably has the weakest ZvT?

I kind of agree actually, even thought Hydra is still scary good. I would have picked Impact, but after seeing his domination of Polt yesterday, it's a really hard choice. I think he will pick DRG though.
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showstealer1829
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Australia3123 Posts
August 09 2014 14:09 GMT
#37
On August 09 2014 22:55 IndoKoreanMuslim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2014 16:12 asongdotnet wrote:
MMA picks first... who should he pick to not get eliminated? I would pick Hydra if I was MMA. I think of all the zergs left, Hydra probably has the weakest ZvT?

I kind of agree actually, even thought Hydra is still scary good. I would have picked Impact, but after seeing his domination of Polt yesterday, it's a really hard choice. I think he will pick DRG though.


I was thinking along much the same lines, Impact would've been my target as Terran until he rekted Polt....now....I'm not sure I like any choice....I mean I could target Polt again but that just makes me the target the rest of the day if I get through that match....I still think MMA will pick Impact though, he has been in the Axiom house with the guy before, with one life I thinks he sticks with what he knows.
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Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
August 09 2014 16:16 GMT
#38
i think i might just have played hydra on murica ladder :D
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asongdotnet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States1060 Posts
August 09 2014 16:54 GMT
#39
On August 10 2014 01:16 Undead1993 wrote:
i think i might just have played hydra on murica ladder :D


did you win?
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-09 16:57:16
August 09 2014 16:56 GMT
#40
On August 10 2014 01:54 asongdotnet wrote:
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On August 10 2014 01:16 Undead1993 wrote:
i think i might just have played hydra on murica ladder :D


did you win?

first of all i looked up his match history and there are no games from yesterday for some reason. but he played against jjakji like 25 weeks ago and this season he only has 8 games. it might be him because i got rekt pretty hard and i am masters normally only fooling around in diamond on na

maybe i got trolled but i don't think so he was pretty serious that he is hydra, but who knows lots of trolls out there
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