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[SPL] Postseason Semis - SKT vs CJ Day 3 - Page 23

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jekku
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada1640 Posts
July 22 2014 11:03 GMT
#441
Dat recall...
In the rear with the gear!
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-22 11:33:41
July 22 2014 11:03 GMT
#442
(P)PartinG vs (P)herO
Match point for SKT now, they can smell the finals on the cool river side stadium! herO has other ideas though and will be looking to half the SKT express.

herO spawns 7 oclock PartinG 5oclock
Mirror openings with herO slightly ahead by milliseconds again
Stargate for herO
Expand for PartinG
Phoenix production begins for herO
Stargate goes down for PartinG
Nexus down for herO
Matching probe counts this time around though unlike Sora vs Classic
Forge for PartinG and Robo for herO
+1 weapons begin for PartinG and so does his Robo
Observer on it's way for herO
Coli tech for herO and stopped at 5phoenix
Looks like exactly same match as last PvP (Classic vs herO) with them choosing the same builds
PartinG is down 7 probes though
PARTINGGGGGGGGG Takes ninja expansion top right on Frost
+2 on its way for PArtinG
Colli and Templar archieves for herO
Warp prism also starts for PartinG
Charge now for herO
Templars feedback a phoenix and stalker shots kill it in spectacular fashion
Bit of manoeuvrings around the map at the moment
+2 weapons finishes for herO
Charge for PartinG is only halfway done though
STORM DROP from PartinG
PartinG recalled his army to top right nexus to save it from a few zealots...oh dear
herO charges across the map in response
herO kills natural of parting so easily
PartinG just had no idea what to do, didn't even try to base trade
In the end after a bit of back and forth he just taps out
game on?

SKT 3-2 CJ
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Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
July 22 2014 11:03 GMT
#443
wow if Effort beats Soul Khan this is gonna become really interesting
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
July 22 2014 11:03 GMT
#444
never seen PartinG so indecisive and lost. EffOrt will be the man yet againnn
robson1
Profile Joined March 2013
3632 Posts
July 22 2014 11:04 GMT
#445
On July 22 2014 20:02 Exarl25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2014 19:58 Nebuchad wrote:
On July 22 2014 19:54 Exarl25 wrote:
On July 22 2014 19:48 TheDwf wrote:
On July 22 2014 19:44 Exarl25 wrote:
On July 22 2014 19:44 TheDwf wrote:
On July 22 2014 19:41 Exarl25 wrote:
It is viable. There is absolutely no chance in hell he would do the same thing 3 times on this map in such important games if it didn't have merit. Standard play fails too if your build isn't tight enough and you are slow on your transitions. If he got that AA up faster the game goes on.

If he gets that AA up he still loses to the addition of Templars. Air/Templars wins everything in lategame TvP.


Going to trust in the judgement of a team in the playoffs of Proleague over yours.

Sure, the 0-2 record against answers that were not hilariously off speaks for itself.


Broadcasted games represent a ridiculously small sample of what is actually played. Getting sent out 3 times in a row on this map and doing that build every time. It is working in practice, and it isn't Bbyong alone who has faith in it. Games these important are not ones where you experiment.


I mean, you don't know what happens in practice either. Maybe Bbyong gets megarekt with bio lately and slightly less rekt with mech, so he decides to do this over bio. You can't expect us to follow your idea based on what we don't know, we obviously need more than that (I think Maru said recently that mech was not so bad vs protoss, that would be an example of "more than that", but still not enough)


If that was the case then why send out Bbyong at all? It's not like CJ Entus doesn't have other good players. And I don't see how it working better than bio for a player of Bbyong's caliber can possibly be a point against it.


bbyong is their semi ace and at least their second biggest star. You cannot bench him in the semi finals unless he is literally getting pwned in every game on ladder/pratice.
Genius is that funny scientist who no one takes seriously until he kills you with a flame throwing trumpet. - stuchiu 2013
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
July 22 2014 11:04 GMT
#446
God dammnit I overslept
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
July 22 2014 11:04 GMT
#447
On July 22 2014 20:03 Pandemona wrote:
Poll: Recommend PartinG vs herO

Good Game (7)
 
47%

Meh Game (4)
 
27%

Excellent Game (3)
 
20%

Bad Game (1)
 
7%

15 total votes

Your vote: Recommend PartinG vs herO

(Vote): Excellent Game
(Vote): Good Game
(Vote): Meh Game
(Vote): Bad Game


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justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
July 22 2014 11:04 GMT
#448
its been a while i watch sc2, since when coach park went to CJ lol
Gwavajuice
Profile Joined June 2014
France1810 Posts
July 22 2014 11:04 GMT
#449
Aaaaah... nice! Seriously this loss against parting yesterday was so disapointing, herO had to do something today.
Dear INno and all the former STX boys.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
July 22 2014 11:04 GMT
#450
This got interesting really fast. Effort can beat Soulkey.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
July 22 2014 11:04 GMT
#451
On July 22 2014 20:04 Lorning wrote:
God dammnit I overslept


Yeah...i need your mobile number brah. LR and op man i like old shellybot mode here. xD
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
July 22 2014 11:04 GMT
#452
On July 22 2014 20:04 DarkLordOlli wrote:
This got interesting really fast. Effort can beat Soulkey.


I can beat Soulkey too

if his screen breaks after 10 seconds
AdministratorBreak the chains
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12247 Posts
July 22 2014 11:05 GMT
#453
On July 22 2014 20:04 justiceknight wrote:
its been a while i watch sc2, since when coach park went to CJ lol


Before this PL season started.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
robson1
Profile Joined March 2013
3632 Posts
July 22 2014 11:05 GMT
#454
On July 22 2014 20:04 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2014 20:04 DarkLordOlli wrote:
This got interesting really fast. Effort can beat Soulkey.


I can beat Soulkey too

if his screen breaks after 10 seconds


#shots fired.

Better watch out sk.
Genius is that funny scientist who no one takes seriously until he kills you with a flame throwing trumpet. - stuchiu 2013
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
July 22 2014 11:05 GMT
#455
Haha, poor effort
wl4d
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
France103 Posts
July 22 2014 11:05 GMT
#456
lol everyone votes against effOrt
EffOrt
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
July 22 2014 11:05 GMT
#457
WOW
Soulkey predicted to win by every caster xD

It's ZvZ after all anything can happen
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
July 22 2014 11:05 GMT
#458
On July 22 2014 19:52 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2014 19:48 TheDwf wrote:
On July 22 2014 19:44 Exarl25 wrote:
On July 22 2014 19:44 TheDwf wrote:
On July 22 2014 19:41 Exarl25 wrote:
It is viable. There is absolutely no chance in hell he would do the same thing 3 times on this map in such important games if it didn't have merit. Standard play fails too if your build isn't tight enough and you are slow on your transitions. If he got that AA up faster the game goes on.

If he gets that AA up he still loses to the addition of Templars. Air/Templars wins everything in lategame TvP.


Going to trust in the judgement of a team in the playoffs of Proleague over yours.

Sure, the 0-2 record against answers that were not hilariously off speaks for itself.


I don't know, would Bbyong really do this three times in a row if he hadn't practiced it a ton and wasn't confident with it? I like to think that herO's PvT is good enough to beat him the same way Rain and Parting did, at least a few times in practice

Well it's obvious he specifically practiced this to play it in important matches. But it still doesn't work. At all. Not only his build 100% loses to what PartinG did yesterday, but even when he gets away with mass CCs AND immediately scans the 3 Stargate answer, he still ends up in a losing position.

I would explain this mech build in the following sense (other than Bbyong having a fondness for iffy stuff). When you have abysmal odds in standard scenarii (I give Bbyong maybe 20% chances in a normal game against players like PartinG or Rain), you try to avoid them and drag your opponent into murky waters. There's always the small chance that your opponent gets stuck in the mud like Classic, doesn't deviate from his anti-bio autopilot and finds himself in a hopeless position.

Talked about all of this here if you're interested.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18678 Posts
July 22 2014 11:05 GMT
#459
gg CJ
You actually really impressed me in this playoff by getting it to game 6 of game three but unfortunately its over.

It's no shame to lose to SKT!
Gwavajuice
Profile Joined June 2014
France1810 Posts
July 22 2014 11:05 GMT
#460
On July 22 2014 20:04 justiceknight wrote:
its been a while i watch sc2, since when coach park went to CJ lol


After last year's proleague when EG-TL got out and this didn't renew his contract.

He did a good job overall, CJ kept on improving this season.
Dear INno and all the former STX boys.
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