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Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
July 07 2014 05:34 GMT
#2841
On July 07 2014 14:20 SidianTheBard wrote:
I know it might sound a bit salty because it's my map but god damn hab stat should still be in the next ladder's map pool because strategies like this final game go to show how the meta game is still evolving on this map. No other map produces games like that...zzzzzzzzz.


Really, though, that game was a perfect send-off to your baby.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
Zax19
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Czech Republic1136 Posts
July 07 2014 05:46 GMT
#2842
I was really confused Pigbaby didn't play the solid macro style he did against Teaja, other than that some funky all-ins x)
Really Blizz, really? - Darnell
dvorakftw
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
681 Posts
July 07 2014 06:07 GMT
#2843
On July 07 2014 14:06 TotalBiscuit wrote:
I actually have the common sense not to comment on specific balance because I'm terrible at Starcraft 2.

It's wrong to believe you have to be great at something to have a worthwhile opinion on it, but if you don't want to comment that is fine.

If you would like I can ask my team, who are not terrible at Starcraft 2.


Sure. Let's pick two and rally the community.

Reducing the armory gas cost from 100 to 50 allowing a quick double armory

Removing the engineering bay requirement for making turrets to help Terran defend oracle and DT opens

Reducing the time for stim research

Reducing range of photon overchage

Reducing duration of photon overchage

Buff siege tank damage slightly

Nerf immortal hardened shield slightly

(Personally I'd go with the siege tank buff which could also help late game TvZ and reduce duration of photon overcharge which would also help ZvP.)
Foreverkul
Profile Joined March 2014
United States1649 Posts
July 07 2014 06:28 GMT
#2844
On July 07 2014 14:46 Zax19 wrote:
I was really confused Pigbaby didn't play the solid macro style he did against Teaja, other than that some funky all-ins x)

Basically showing everyone Protoss can do whatever he wants and still win
showstealer1829
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Australia3123 Posts
July 07 2014 06:48 GMT
#2845
The Eye of Sauron sees all.


One Protoss to rule them all
One observer to find them
One prism to warp them all
And on Shakuras grind them
There is no understanding. There is only Choya. Choya is the way. Choya is Love. Choya is Life. Has is the Light in the Protoss Dark and Nightmare is his chosen Acolyte
SatedSC2
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
England3012 Posts
July 07 2014 08:11 GMT
#2846
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ReMinD_
Profile Joined May 2013
Croatia846 Posts
July 07 2014 08:12 GMT
#2847
New Protoss champions popping left and right.
Parting: Well, even I can make better maps than these.
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
July 07 2014 08:34 GMT
#2848
On July 07 2014 17:12 ReMinD_ wrote:
New Protoss champions popping left and right.


is pigbaby the new protoss bonjwa??
yo
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
July 07 2014 08:50 GMT
#2849
Dammit Bomber...
Dakreyas
Profile Joined July 2014
9 Posts
July 07 2014 09:39 GMT
#2850
On July 07 2014 14:06 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2014 14:05 dvorakftw wrote:
On July 07 2014 13:45 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Your mistake is believing that anyone disagrees with the idea that Protoss is dominant right now and not that they simply disagree with the way a certain vocal balance-whining deadcat wearing Terran decides to express it.

Okay. You have said you believe some tweaks for Protoss and/or Terran are in order. What do you recommend? Let's all work together to improve the current balance.

What do you think of reducing the armory gas cost from 100 to 50 allowing a quick double armory?

How about removing the engineering bay requirement for making turrets to help Terran defend oracle and DT opens?

Some people have mentioned reducing the time for stim research and others would like to see either the range or duration of photon overchage reduced. Do any of those strike your fancy?


I actually have the common sense not to comment on specific balance because I'm terrible at Starcraft 2.

If you would like I can ask my team, who are not terrible at Starcraft 2.




Your team has only 5 players, yet is, by aligulac average, only the 13th ranked team: http://aligulac.com/teams/?sort=rt

The players get flown out everywhere, yet have not won a single tournament.


I think I'll look elsewhere for comments on balance.

User was banned for this post.
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
July 07 2014 09:45 GMT
#2851
Wow, grats to Pigbaby

Hopefully he gets picked up by a big team
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SatedSC2
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
England3012 Posts
July 07 2014 09:59 GMT
#2852
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Liman
Profile Joined July 2012
Serbia681 Posts
July 07 2014 10:41 GMT
#2853
New commercial for SC2 : Play Protoss and you might win WCS !
Freelancer veteran
Glorfindel!
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1815 Posts
July 07 2014 11:10 GMT
#2854
I am regreting my words from yesterday regarding Hyun going to chrush the Pig :/
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/598681/1/Glorfindel/ladder/161337#current-rank
Wyrdness
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom29 Posts
July 07 2014 13:48 GMT
#2855
Although I play Terran congratulations to Pigbaby, these Protoss should go into the salt manufacturing business because the reactions in the stream chat yesterday were brilliant.
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-07 14:19:22
July 07 2014 14:08 GMT
#2856
On July 07 2014 18:39 Dakreyas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2014 14:06 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On July 07 2014 14:05 dvorakftw wrote:
On July 07 2014 13:45 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Your mistake is believing that anyone disagrees with the idea that Protoss is dominant right now and not that they simply disagree with the way a certain vocal balance-whining deadcat wearing Terran decides to express it.

Okay. You have said you believe some tweaks for Protoss and/or Terran are in order. What do you recommend? Let's all work together to improve the current balance.

What do you think of reducing the armory gas cost from 100 to 50 allowing a quick double armory?

How about removing the engineering bay requirement for making turrets to help Terran defend oracle and DT opens?

Some people have mentioned reducing the time for stim research and others would like to see either the range or duration of photon overchage reduced. Do any of those strike your fancy?


I actually have the common sense not to comment on specific balance because I'm terrible at Starcraft 2.

If you would like I can ask my team, who are not terrible at Starcraft 2.




Your team has only 5 players, yet is, by aligulac average, only the 13th ranked team: http://aligulac.com/teams/?sort=rt

The players get flown out everywhere, yet have not won a single tournament.


I think I'll look elsewhere for comments on balance.



TB is one of the most toxic people in this community.

Just ignore him like I do and move on. Dude does nothing but insult and belittle others-- the ultimate example of throwing stones in glass houses. Let him have his casual and clueless fans, and everyone else let's just enjoy SC2... thank God he hardly casts anymore. His gold league level game knowledge is always a drag.


Glass houses indeed.

User was banned for this post.


Pop goes the weasel
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-07 14:10:33
July 07 2014 14:08 GMT
#2857
On July 07 2014 11:53 Havik_ wrote:
REMEMBER GOMTVT IN 2011 TERRAN PLAYERS!?!?!??!

This is how it felt for us Toss players. Now you know better

back then the game was figured out for the terran race because it is a more mechanical race and less dependend on abilities and so on. Also, terran was closer to BW then the other races were.
That is why terran startet very strong in the beginning, and got nerfed too much: the other races finally got figured out and were stronger AND then had the buffs on their side. This now pays back since the last year of WoL or Wings of Broodlord Winfestor and still goes on.
I won't denie that the final BO7 was awesome to watch, but even more so the games between Bomber and Heart. Also the problem is, that these completely new builds show that protoss vs Terran can really pull off a lot of builds... not to say anything...
Also you refer to a 3 thin 3 years ago, this over"balancing" shouldnt happen after a game is out several years, it could happen if the game is new - yes. So do you see the difference?


Lol i love what Pigbaby does in the end: Joking about American pride:
Saying "I love America!"
Meaining "Lots of noobs here"
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
July 07 2014 14:15 GMT
#2858
On July 07 2014 12:00 jakethesnake wrote:
Everything is bigger in America. Even the trophies.

I've read about that. The people too. On the scale at least
lolmlg
Profile Joined November 2011
619 Posts
July 07 2014 14:28 GMT
#2859
Always amused by the comments. If you didn't know that Pigbaby was good enough to win, now you know.
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-07 14:38:56
July 07 2014 14:38 GMT
#2860
When your race can rush to a capital ship with impunity then you can be sure photon overcharge is broken LOL.

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