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Jett.Jack.Alvir
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada2250 Posts
June 19 2014 23:59 GMT
#1041
I agree Swede, in all games I watched (I missed the second set) Polt played really well and executed his strategy as best he can. Scarlett just took better engagements nearly all the time.

And although there were some sweet WM hits, I feel that Scarlett shut them down quite easily, thus letting her ling/bane go to town on the bio.

All in all, every map played between those two were fun to watch (I am assuming second set).
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
June 20 2014 00:03 GMT
#1042
On June 20 2014 08:15 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2014 08:13 argonautdice wrote:
On June 20 2014 08:11 BisuDagger wrote:
Does this mean we stop calling polt a top 5 terran now, or do we start calling scarlettjwa a top 5 zerg?

Weakest matchup vs strongest matchup.

When you're the best you don't have a weakness.


Mvp was the best and he had like a dozen weaknesses.
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
June 20 2014 00:05 GMT
#1043
On June 20 2014 09:03 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2014 08:15 BisuDagger wrote:
On June 20 2014 08:13 argonautdice wrote:
On June 20 2014 08:11 BisuDagger wrote:
Does this mean we stop calling polt a top 5 terran now, or do we start calling scarlettjwa a top 5 zerg?

Weakest matchup vs strongest matchup.

When you're the best you don't have a weakness.


Mvp was the best and he had like a dozen weaknesses.

wouldnt call him the best, just somehow better than everyone he played

"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
June 20 2014 00:09 GMT
#1044
On June 20 2014 09:05 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2014 09:03 stuchiu wrote:
On June 20 2014 08:15 BisuDagger wrote:
On June 20 2014 08:13 argonautdice wrote:
On June 20 2014 08:11 BisuDagger wrote:
Does this mean we stop calling polt a top 5 terran now, or do we start calling scarlettjwa a top 5 zerg?

Weakest matchup vs strongest matchup.

When you're the best you don't have a weakness.


Mvp was the best and he had like a dozen weaknesses.

wouldnt call him the best, just somehow better than everyone he played



None were better than he was in WoL.
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
June 20 2014 00:12 GMT
#1045
On June 20 2014 08:41 xtorn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2014 08:15 Darkhorse wrote:
On June 20 2014 08:11 BisuDagger wrote:
Does this mean we stop calling polt a top 5 terran now, or do we start calling scarlettjwa a top 5 zerg?

I think potentially neither is top 5 in their race.

Terran
1. Maru
2. Inno?
3. Taeja?
4. Bbyong?
5. Flash?
6. TY?
7. SuNo
8. Bomber?
9. Polt?
10. MKP?

For Zerg

1. soO
2. Soulkey
3. TRUE?
4. Life
5. Hyun?
6. JD?
7. Byul?
8. Solar?
9. RorO?
10. DRG?
11. Vortix?
12. Scarlett?

(? denotes I have not a fucking clue where to rank these people this is hard)


JD on 6th, and DRG on 10th, and worse of all, Scarlett on 12th?

Amusing took a smile off me

Haha well it's hard to definitively say so I put the question marks. Where would you have those three?
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19240 Posts
June 20 2014 00:16 GMT
#1046
On June 20 2014 09:12 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2014 08:41 xtorn wrote:
On June 20 2014 08:15 Darkhorse wrote:
On June 20 2014 08:11 BisuDagger wrote:
Does this mean we stop calling polt a top 5 terran now, or do we start calling scarlettjwa a top 5 zerg?

I think potentially neither is top 5 in their race.

Terran
1. Maru
2. Inno?
3. Taeja?
4. Bbyong?
5. Flash?
6. TY?
7. SuNo
8. Bomber?
9. Polt?
10. MKP?

For Zerg

1. soO
2. Soulkey
3. TRUE?
4. Life
5. Hyun?
6. JD?
7. Byul?
8. Solar?
9. RorO?
10. DRG?
11. Vortix?
12. Scarlett?

(? denotes I have not a fucking clue where to rank these people this is hard)


JD on 6th, and DRG on 10th, and worse of all, Scarlett on 12th?

Amusing took a smile off me

Haha well it's hard to definitively say so I put the question marks. Where would you have those three?

1-5 Nestea
6-10 Zergbong
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kaykoose
Profile Joined February 2014
United States2302 Posts
June 20 2014 00:35 GMT
#1047
On June 20 2014 08:42 Swede wrote:
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On June 20 2014 08:33 kaykoose wrote:
grats to Scarlett. Missed the last few games but I had saw enough to know Polt was gonna lose. He needs to go back to the drawing board TvZ


I actually think Polt's overall strategy was fine. 4M v Muta/ling/bane is really close to evenly matched in my opinion, but Scarlett's execution was just unbelievably solid and Polt's was slightly flawed. The end result being that Scarlett wins.


uhh sure. I'm saying he needs to go back to the drawing board because on top of just getting out played, predictability played into his downfall here. 7 games with the same exact build, comp and style. But that's Polt I guess. I just hope he realizes that he can't macro and multitask every player to death. He could stand to add some variety.
Swede
Profile Joined June 2010
New Zealand853 Posts
June 20 2014 00:47 GMT
#1048
On June 20 2014 08:59 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote:
I agree Swede, in all games I watched (I missed the second set) Polt played really well and executed his strategy as best he can. Scarlett just took better engagements nearly all the time.

And although there were some sweet WM hits, I feel that Scarlett shut them down quite easily, thus letting her ling/bane go to town on the bio.

All in all, every map played between those two were fun to watch (I am assuming second set).


Yeah, I think the widow mines were the weakest part of his play. Besides the fact that Scarlett microed well against them, a lot of times he would burrow them too late and lose them without ever getting a shot off. As a general rule, burrowing them too early is going to be better than too late - at least they will probably get a shot off that way, even if it's not a good one.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
June 20 2014 00:50 GMT
#1049
On June 20 2014 09:16 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2014 09:12 Darkhorse wrote:
On June 20 2014 08:41 xtorn wrote:
On June 20 2014 08:15 Darkhorse wrote:
On June 20 2014 08:11 BisuDagger wrote:
Does this mean we stop calling polt a top 5 terran now, or do we start calling scarlettjwa a top 5 zerg?

I think potentially neither is top 5 in their race.

Terran
1. Maru
2. Inno?
3. Taeja?
4. Bbyong?
5. Flash?
6. TY?
7. SuNo
8. Bomber?
9. Polt?
10. MKP?

For Zerg

1. soO
2. Soulkey
3. TRUE?
4. Life
5. Hyun?
6. JD?
7. Byul?
8. Solar?
9. RorO?
10. DRG?
11. Vortix?
12. Scarlett?

(? denotes I have not a fucking clue where to rank these people this is hard)


JD on 6th, and DRG on 10th, and worse of all, Scarlett on 12th?

Amusing took a smile off me

Haha well it's hard to definitively say so I put the question marks. Where would you have those three?

1-5 Nestea
6-10 Zergbong

You must construct additional JulyZerg
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
entropius
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1046 Posts
June 20 2014 00:57 GMT
#1050
Are there vods for this available? All the links I can find lead to youtube videos marked "This video is private."
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
June 20 2014 01:21 GMT
#1051
What's the score for lives? I can't view atm, is it Scarlett 2 Polt 1?
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
June 20 2014 01:24 GMT
#1052
On June 20 2014 10:21 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
What's the score for lives? I can't view atm, is it Scarlett 2 Polt 1?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/459747-scarlett-wins-red-bull-battle-grounds-north-america
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 20 2014 01:29 GMT
#1053
On June 20 2014 08:15 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2014 08:11 BisuDagger wrote:
Does this mean we stop calling polt a top 5 terran now, or do we start calling scarlettjwa a top 5 zerg?

I think potentially neither is top 5 in their race.

Terran
1. Maru
2. Inno?
3. Taeja?
4. Bbyong?
5. Flash?
6. TY?
7. SuNo
8. Bomber?
9. Polt?
10. MKP?

For Zerg

1. soO
2. Soulkey
3. TRUE?
4. Life
5. Hyun?
6. JD?
7. Byul?
8. Solar?
9. RorO?
10. DRG?
11. Vortix?
12. Scarlett?

(? denotes I have not a fucking clue where to rank these people this is hard)

I'll cover for stuchiu since he seems to not have seen this yet but he should say something along the lines of
haha how is Suno below TY when he schooled him and made him look like a scrub in Code A
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
June 20 2014 01:33 GMT
#1054
TY and Flash over Supernova? Disgusting.

I wrote a 3k article talking about why Suno > Flash and TY.
Moderator
kaykoose
Profile Joined February 2014
United States2302 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-20 01:38:04
June 20 2014 01:36 GMT
#1055
lol

I hope Supernova finds a team soon
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
June 20 2014 01:50 GMT
#1056
woah..

did not expect Scarlett to win this. Especially not off of 3 bo3 wins.

Time to give Scarlett back that foreigner crown.
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
June 20 2014 02:06 GMT
#1057
On June 20 2014 10:33 stuchiu wrote:
TY and Flash over Supernova? Disgusting.

I wrote a 3k article talking about why Suno > Flash and TY.


we should find a way to release that and make some fanboys cry
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
June 20 2014 03:11 GMT
#1058
This is the most amazing day of SC2 ever! Scarlett for life!
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
xtorn
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
4060 Posts
June 20 2014 07:26 GMT
#1059
On June 20 2014 09:12 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2014 08:41 xtorn wrote:
On June 20 2014 08:15 Darkhorse wrote:
On June 20 2014 08:11 BisuDagger wrote:
Does this mean we stop calling polt a top 5 terran now, or do we start calling scarlettjwa a top 5 zerg?

I think potentially neither is top 5 in their race.

Terran
1. Maru
2. Inno?
3. Taeja?
4. Bbyong?
5. Flash?
6. TY?
7. SuNo
8. Bomber?
9. Polt?
10. MKP?

For Zerg

1. soO
2. Soulkey
3. TRUE?
4. Life
5. Hyun?
6. JD?
7. Byul?
8. Solar?
9. RorO?
10. DRG?
11. Vortix?
12. Scarlett?

(? denotes I have not a fucking clue where to rank these people this is hard)


JD on 6th, and DRG on 10th, and worse of all, Scarlett on 12th?

Amusing took a smile off me

Haha well it's hard to definitively say so I put the question marks. Where would you have those three?


Swaglett plays better than some GSL zergs but she simply did not have the chance to prove it so far, or your list would look entirely different. Instead she plays in NA where everyone and their mother tries to rush her so that she does not reach this macro state where she dominates entirely, as we just saw in the match vs the best NA terran, Polt. Apart from him and Major I don't think anyone has a chance in trying to outmacro her.



DRG is imho slightly better than JD.
Life - forever the Legend in my heart
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
June 20 2014 08:34 GMT
#1060
On June 20 2014 09:05 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2014 09:03 stuchiu wrote:
On June 20 2014 08:15 BisuDagger wrote:
On June 20 2014 08:13 argonautdice wrote:
On June 20 2014 08:11 BisuDagger wrote:
Does this mean we stop calling polt a top 5 terran now, or do we start calling scarlettjwa a top 5 zerg?

Weakest matchup vs strongest matchup.

When you're the best you don't have a weakness.


Mvp was the best and he had like a dozen weaknesses.

wouldnt call him the best, just somehow better than everyone he played



Unless you are implying that the best players were not playing in the GSL at that time, isn't what you saying the very definition of being the best?
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